Syrian Civil War: News #5

sepheronx wrote:Dima, your comment in last page about the 50 MiGs are going to Egypt.

Thanks. I was more interested in the Syrian (or Russia or Iranian) having the capability to do that precision strike with KAB series.

Peto Lucem ‏@PetoLucem 40 minutes ago
Peto Lucem Retweeted Hassan Ridha
Seems like the anticipated push east of #Sheikh_Najjar finally started. On to #Suran to close the pocket. #Aleppo

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 51 minutes ago
#SAA & allies have taken control of Ta'aneh east of Sheikh Najjar #Aleppo

JohninMK wrote:Keep up mate. Check out Aldin's post 938

Haha...I didnt see it...btw, I thought Aldin said he wont be able to be here for a while due to work.

Dima wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Got beaten to it by Solncepek. This is what I was going to say

I only put this up to show how crazy some people can be. Would you run into a machine gun crossfire zone with no cover when most of your mates are lying dead or dying ahead of you? This is the SAA getting gunned down, video put up today. No gore just bodies, lots of them in a new Jaish al Islam vid.

$hit man....i was so much wished the pics that I posted was false/older one. The snapshots looks taken from that battle??? :-(

It looks like the advancing men did not have any idea that their flank was not secured.... Something really went wrong.
More so call why every offensive needs a tank to plough through the defence and if not atleast a armed/uav to give a clear picture and soften up the opposing frontlines.

Nothing went wrong. I have a strong feeling this was just a turkey shoot from captured SAA people. There's no return fire what so ever and there wasn't any attempt to freeze the movement. Also the killzone from the footage is only 100m deep. There's noway they didn't saw or heard from the first shots there were beheaders next to them; From whoever has been on a range, fire from an AK at 50m/100 is distinctive especially when amplified by fireholes.

I just don't know how this is possible. I do not exclude fuckups. But they kept advancing even when tracers were well ahead of the first obstacle. It's just not logical after 5 years of war, but who knows with this crazy war.

SAA Reporter ‏@Syria_Protector 4 minutes ago
#Map correction [update] military situation in E Aleppo after capturing Barlahin


Yet again SAA is going places that what we didnt expect, atleast me, seeing the earlier maps. Good going to make an even bihger cauldron. Purge the terrorists inside it.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Nothing went wrong. I have a strong feeling this was just a turkey shoot from captured SAA people. There's no return fire what so ever and there wasn't any attempt to freeze the movement. Also the killzone from the footage is only 100m deep. There's noway they didn't saw or heard from the first shots there were beheaders next to them; From whoever has been on a range, fire from an AK at 50m/100 is distinctive especially when amplified by fireholes.

I just don't know how this is possible. I do not exclude fuckups. But they kept advancing even when tracers were well ahead of the first obstacle. It's just not logical after 5 years of war, but who knows with this crazy war.

I dont know..but something went wrong somewhere and the reason why we have to see this well prepared ambush mercilessly massacring those men.
Every men in uniform count and its sad to see so many being lost in just one ambush/whatever. RIP guys.

Dima wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Nothing went wrong. I have a strong feeling this was just a turkey shoot from captured SAA people. There's no return fire what so ever and there wasn't any attempt to freeze the movement. Also the killzone from the footage is only 100m deep. There's noway they didn't saw or heard from the first shots there were beheaders next to them; From whoever has been on a range, fire from an AK at 50m/100 is distinctive especially when amplified by fireholes.

I just don't know how this is possible. I do not exclude fuckups. But they kept advancing even when tracers were well ahead of the first obstacle. It's just not logical after 5 years of war, but who knows with this crazy war.

I dont know..but something went wrong somewhere and the reason why we have to see this well prepared ambush mercilessly massacring those men.
Every men in uniform count and its sad to see so many being lost in just one ambush/whatever. RIP guys.

I don't think so far this was "an ambush" on an attacking party. The only similar scene I saw was during the "evacuation" of the military hospital in Jisr and prior to that in Idlib. Those were cold blooded executions of a sourrounded enemy. Not "ambushing attackers".

So my point still stands, either this was a hurried exit from a killzone, which turned sour, or was simply put a sickening dressing up of an execution.

Dima wrote:SAA Reporter ‏@Syria_Protector 4 minutes ago
#Map correction [update] military situation in E Aleppo after capturing Barlahin


Yet again SAA is going places that what we didnt expect, atleast me, seeing the earlier maps. Good going to make an even bihger cauldron. Purge the terrorists inside it.

Not only that but they suckered the IS to bring in reinforcements to retake Al-Sin and al-Kalb... now about to be trapped.

What are the estimates of terrorist forces in danger of being encircled? Has there been a wide-scale
encirclement and annihilation of terrorist forces to this date?

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Dima wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Nothing went wrong. I have a strong feeling this was just a turkey shoot from captured SAA people. There's no return fire what so ever and there wasn't any attempt to freeze the movement. Also the killzone from the footage is only 100m deep. There's noway they didn't saw or heard from the first shots there were beheaders next to them; From whoever has been on a range, fire from an AK at 50m/100 is distinctive especially when amplified by fireholes.

I just don't know how this is possible. I do not exclude fuckups. But they kept advancing even when tracers were well ahead of the first obstacle. It's just not logical after 5 years of war, but who knows with this crazy war.

I dont know..but something went wrong somewhere and the reason why we have to see this well prepared ambush mercilessly massacring those men.
Every men in uniform count and its sad to see so many being lost in just one ambush/whatever. RIP guys.

I don't think so far this was "an ambush" on an attacking party. The only similar scene I saw was during the "evacuation" of the military hospital in Jisr and prior to that in Idlib. Those were cold blooded executions of a sourrounded enemy. Not "ambushing attackers".

So my point still stands, either this was a hurried exit from a killzone, which turned sour, or was simply put a sickening dressing up of an execution.

Once this spreads through the SAA and allies it is likely that the prisoner/wounded/killed ratios may well change leading to a probable shortage of virgins.

SturmGuard wrote:What are the estimates of terrorist forces in danger of being encircled? Has there been a wide-scale
encirclement and annihilation of terrorist forces to this date?

It's a long civil war, a quick look and count shows 5 government forces encirclement, 1 Isis and about 11 rebel ones.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Dima wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Nothing went wrong. I have a strong feeling this was just a turkey shoot from captured SAA people. There's no return fire what so ever and there wasn't any attempt to freeze the movement. Also the killzone from the footage is only 100m deep. There's noway they didn't saw or heard from the first shots there were beheaders next to them; From whoever has been on a range, fire from an AK at 50m/100 is distinctive especially when amplified by fireholes.

I just don't know how this is possible. I do not exclude fuckups. But they kept advancing even when tracers were well ahead of the first obstacle. It's just not logical after 5 years of war, but who knows with this crazy war.

I dont know..but something went wrong somewhere and the reason why we have to see this well prepared ambush mercilessly massacring those men.
Every men in uniform count and its sad to see so many being lost in just one ambush/whatever. RIP guys.

I don't think so far this was "an ambush" on an attacking party. The only similar scene I saw was during the "evacuation" of the military hospital in Jisr and prior to that in Idlib. Those were cold blooded executions of a sourrounded enemy. Not "ambushing attackers".

So my point still stands, either this was a hurried exit from a killzone, which turned sour, or was simply put a sickening dressing up of an execution.

A key strategy of the government has been to allow the rebels to retake newly conquered positions.
1. means the rebels have to bring in reinforcements into a close area... much easier for the VKS and SAA artillery to get at them.

franco wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Dima wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Nothing went wrong. I have a strong feeling this was just a turkey shoot from captured SAA people. There's no return fire what so ever and there wasn't any attempt to freeze the movement. Also the killzone from the footage is only 100m deep. There's noway they didn't saw or heard from the first shots there were beheaders next to them; From whoever has been on a range, fire from an AK at 50m/100 is distinctive especially when amplified by fireholes.

I just don't know how this is possible. I do not exclude fuckups. But they kept advancing even when tracers were well ahead of the first obstacle. It's just not logical after 5 years of war, but who knows with this crazy war.

I dont know..but something went wrong somewhere and the reason why we have to see this well prepared ambush mercilessly massacring those men.
Every men in uniform count and its sad to see so many being lost in just one ambush/whatever. RIP guys.

I don't think so far this was "an ambush" on an attacking party. The only similar scene I saw was during the "evacuation" of the military hospital in Jisr and prior to that in Idlib. Those were cold blooded executions of a sourrounded enemy. Not "ambushing attackers".

So my point still stands, either this was a hurried exit from a killzone, which turned sour, or was simply put a sickening dressing up of an execution.

A key strategy of the government has been to allow the rebels to retake newly conquered positions.
1. means the rebels have to bring in reinforcements into a close area... much easier for the VKS and SAA artillery to get at them.  

Yeah that's what shaping and probing operations are for. Yet this isn't exactly a shaping operation. Look at how the people act, move and fight in Aleppo. Hell even the Nujaba guys that aren't the most prolific uber warriors in such moments, do not keep advancing on cutting fire. We had enough evidence when Anjam al Sham and the other JN assholes were attacking them with tanks and APC's. They scampered when fired upon. Here's they're just going under fire. To me it doesn't fit anything remotely military.

It's not like they were in a deep killzone of 300/400m. The 0:45 first guy who rolls dead is being hit by DSHK; the round snaps immediatley. They're just 100 accross on what's basically a 30m window. It just doesn't make sense. 0:50/55 guy standing gets hit on the thigh/pelvis stutters tries to get down. A tracer is just beside him. Don't tell me he doesn't see that one. There are more people coming after him. A part a death wish cult club kind of thing, I can't understand what's going on. Logically (outside the dressed up execution).

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map. Note that  #IS regain control of Al-Sin, Jub Al-Kalb & Rasm Al-Alam while #SAA capture Barheliyah Hill




After recent advances #SAA closes in on north #Aleppo:

Tell Rifaat - 10km

Azaz - 20km

Turkish border - 25km

I have the impression that Kurds are going to retake that entire northern territory which was recently divided. Otherwise the SAA will have to fight on 2 fronts. Erdogan's back is already sweating.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Dima wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Nothing went wrong. I have a strong feeling this was just a turkey shoot from captured SAA people. There's no return fire what so ever and there wasn't any attempt to freeze the movement. Also the killzone from the footage is only 100m deep. There's noway they didn't saw or heard from the first shots there were beheaders next to them; From whoever has been on a range, fire from an AK at 50m/100 is distinctive especially when amplified by fireholes.

I just don't know how this is possible. I do not exclude fuckups. But they kept advancing even when tracers were well ahead of the first obstacle. It's just not logical after 5 years of war, but who knows with this crazy war.

I dont know..but something went wrong somewhere and the reason why we have to see this well prepared ambush mercilessly massacring those men.
Every men in uniform count and its sad to see so many being lost in just one ambush/whatever. RIP guys.

I don't think so far this was "an ambush" on an attacking party. The only similar scene I saw was during the "evacuation" of the military hospital in Jisr and prior to that in Idlib. Those were cold blooded executions of a sourrounded enemy. Not "ambushing attackers".

So my point still stands, either this was a hurried exit from a killzone, which turned sour, or was simply put a sickening dressing up of an execution.

There were no weapons in their arms as they were running, so if they had weapons, they must have been be slung across their shoulders. There are no guns or weapon straps visible in the final shots of the dead victims. There was also no return fire, so even if they had weapons, the magazines must have been empty.

It looks like a staged shoot to me. What a choice? Be decapitated by the headchoppers or take a chance running through a preset fire zone.

RIP to the victims. I hope the RuAF / SAA can identify the location of the murderers and bomb the fsck out of it.

Neutrality wrote:

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map. Note that  #IS regain control of Al-Sin, Jub Al-Kalb & Rasm Al-Alam while #SAA capture Barheliyah Hill




After recent advances #SAA closes in on north #Aleppo:

Tell Rifaat - 10km

Azaz - 20km

Turkish border - 25km

I have the impression that Kurds are going to retake that entire northern territory which was recently divided. Otherwise the SAA will have to fight on 2 fronts. Erdogan's back is already sweating.

I would like ISIS to do a part of the dirty job too. They can more effectively send morons to get killed and kill the "moderates", then Sukhois will sort them out.

A possible reason for the release of the video showing the murder of the SAA troops.

133 terrorists have surrendered today in and around Homs. This follows on from the surrender of 23 more last week.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/133-terrorists-surrender-in-homs-syria/