Washington Left in the Dust: Russia Flies Strategic Space Warfare Missile
Moscow carried out the first successful flight test of its new anti-satellite missile last month, becoming just the second nation to arm its military with space warfare weapons.
Russia's direct ascent anti-satellite missile, known as Nudol, was successfully tested on November 18, according to defense officials familiar with reports of the test. It was the first successful test in three attempts, the Washington Free Beacon reported.
Russia now joins China as the only nations with strategic space warfare weapons. In October, China conducted a flight test of its anti-satellite missile, the Dong Neng-3 direct ascent missile.
Analysts say anti-satellite missiles could cripple US intelligence, navigation, and communications capabilities that are critical for both military operations and civilian infrastructure.
The Russian test is a concern for Washington, Representative Mike Pompeo, a Kansas Republican, told the paper.
"As President Obama cuts our defense budget and seeks to ally with Putin, the Russians continue to develop their technological abilities to weaponize space and to take out our national technical means – kinetically and through cyber," said Pompeo, a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
"We can foolishly turn a blind eye to these developments, or acknowledge this threat and develop our own capabilities to ensure that our satellites – military and commercial – are not susceptible to attack or blackmail."
Former Pentagon official Mark Schneider said the Russian test highlights the failure of the United States to prepare for space warfare.
"There is an enormous asymmetry in play regarding space weapons," said Schneider, now with the National Institute for Public Policy.
"For decades the Congress has prevented the US from putting weapons in space and even developing a ground-based ASAT capability," Schneider said. "There is no such constraint upon the Russians and Russia violates arms control treaties when this is in their interest to do so and they find ample opportunity to do this."
A February 2015 unclassified Defense Intelligence Agency report to the Congress stated that "Chinese and Russian military leaders understand the unique information advantages afforded by space systems and are developing capabilities to deny US use of space in the event of a conflict," Schneider added.
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Viktor- Posts : 5796
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It was about a bloody time ...
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What the heck is 'Nudol'. Is it related to S-500 or something else entirely?
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... kinetically and through cyber," said Pompeo, a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
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Why US is pissed as ususal ? They have ASAT too.
Btw What's the difference in this new ASAT and previous ASATs ?
Meanwhile : No Enemy Needed: US Jammed Its Own Satellites 261 Times This Year Alone
Btw What's the difference in this new ASAT and previous ASATs ?
Meanwhile : No Enemy Needed: US Jammed Its Own Satellites 261 Times This Year Alone
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Mike E wrote:What the heck is 'Nudol'. Is it related to S-500 or something else entirely?
It's not S-500 or ASAT. Nudol is a missile defense system codename.
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I would be very surprised if this Nudol development was not related to S-500. Both systems needs to reach orbit so... on the contrary. I would not be surprised if Nudol would be just a version or a unit part of S-500 Samoderzhets. But lets not forget Hypersonic vehicles. These will give Russians the trye global strike capability within a reasonable time of like 1-2 hours anywhere on earth...
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Flanky wrote:I would be very surprised if this Nudol development was not related to S-500. Both systems needs to reach orbit so... on the contrary. I would not be surprised if Nudol would be just a version or a unit part of S-500 Samoderzhets. But lets not forget Hypersonic vehicles. These will give Russians the trye global strike capability within a reasonable time of like 1-2 hours anywhere on earth...
RUSSIA has its own hypersonic boost weapon. But they've been failing in tests since 80s.
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New missile defences being developed
3 February 2016 Vadim Matveyev, specially for RIR
http://in.rbth.com/economics/defence/2016/02/03/new-missile-defences-being-developed_564505
Russia plans to overhaul its missile defence system and is developing a state-of-the-art anti-ballistic missile (ABM) defence shield, Colonel Andrei Cheburin, commander of the missile defence wing of Russia's Aerospace Defence Forces, said.
3 February 2016 Vadim Matveyev, specially for RIR
http://in.rbth.com/economics/defence/2016/02/03/new-missile-defences-being-developed_564505
Russia plans to overhaul its missile defence system and is developing a state-of-the-art anti-ballistic missile (ABM) defence shield, Colonel Andrei Cheburin, commander of the missile defence wing of Russia's Aerospace Defence Forces, said.
Colonel Andrei Cheburin, speaking on January 23, said Russia's anti-ballistic missile (ABM) system was being completely overhauled over the past few years. "I think that in the near future our country will have a truly ultramodern missile defence system," he concluded.
In autumn of 2012, Russia’s defence authorities stated that the functional ABM system, the A-135 Amur, was being given a major upgrade. Colonel General (Retired) Viktor Yesin, then chief of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces, told RIA Novosti that the missiles were being replaced with new ones with an improved design. All the other elements of the system, including the detection and tracking components, were also being revamped. The missiles would use launch silos currently mothballed, he added.
Enemy at the Gates
The threat America's ABM system being expanded over the past two years has prompted Russia to step up its work to develop a new ABM system of its own. The new system, which will replace the A-135 Amur, has been designated as the A-235.
There are two aspects to the project: the RTTs-181M system, which is effectively an A-235 system, and the Samolyot-M aircraft, including the design of new warheads for the ABMs. The work is being done in secrecy and kept under wraps, so very few details are available.
According to what information is available, the new-generation system should include upgraded Don-2NP radar receiver sections and transition section units, which will be replaced soon by the Don-2M radar. The upgradation was done in 2009 by RTI Systems. The computer and control centres will be given a new Elbrus-3M supercomputer in place of the outdated Elbrus-2. The system is expected to be used along with the Taiga early warning system now being developed.
Different ranges
The A-235 will have missiles capable of operating at three different ranges: long-range, based on the 51T6 and capable of destroying targets at distances up to 1500 km (930 miles), at altitudes up to 800,000 m; medium-range, an update of the 58R6, designed to hit targets at distances up to 1000 km (620 miles), at altitudes up to 120,000 m; and short-range (the 53T6M or 45T6 (based on the 53T6)), with an operating range of 350 km (215 miles) and a flight ceiling of 40,000-50,000 m.
The long-range missiles will most likely be equipped with nuclear warheads, while the others will have kinetic energy warheads. Testing of new missiles for the A-235 Samolyot-M system began in August 2014.
Defending Moscow
Russia's present ABM system, in service since 1971 and part of the defence system for Moscow and Russia's central industrial region, comprises the 5N20 Don-2N radar, two 5K80 computer and control centres equipped with Elbrus and Zarya computing systems, connected to the Oko and Oko-1 early warning satellite systems, as well as to 32 51T6 long-range ABMs, and 68 53T6 short-range ABMs.
The 51T6 (A-925) Azov ABM (NATO reporting name: SH-11/ABM-4 GORGON) can hit targets outside the atmosphere. It was taken out of service between 2002 and 2003 owing to the expiry of its useful life. Its launch silos were then mothballed and may be used for the new long-range ABMs. The 53T6 (PRS-1) short-range ABM (NATO reporting name: SH-08/ABM-3A GAZELLE) is still in service.
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Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile
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Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile
It's said that 'Nudol' (pictured in the Almaz-Antey calendar) is the launcher for the A-235 system, and like the video states it's attributes are highly classified, but I've heard rumors of the range being 1,200 km and even as high as 2,500 km with conventional HE-Frag warhead.
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Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile
1) The claim that removing nuclear warheads saves money is utter BS. All ABM systems have to use nuclear warheads to overcome
the physics problems of interception. Some non-existent savings from using fragmentation warheads at the expense of system
effectiveness are just retarded and I do not believe for a moment the claims in this video.
2) If at some point Uncle Scam wants to negotiate (Minsk style) to castrate Russia's ABM and ICBM systems, Russia needs
to tell Uncle Scam to take a 15-25 year hike. It is just and proper for the children of NATO elites to wet their beds in fear
of nuclear annihilation. This is what keeps the peace. Without this fear the NATO elites start to get drunk on their own
racist propaganda koolaid about owning all of human intelligence and being able to win nuclear wars.
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+100500kvs wrote:Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile
1) The claim that removing nuclear warheads saves money is utter BS. All ABM systems have to use nuclear warheads to overcome the physics problems of interception. Some non-existent savings from using fragmentation warheads at the expense of system effectiveness are just retarded and I do not believe for a moment the claims in this video.
2) If at some point Uncle Scam wants to negotiate (Minsk style) to castrate Russia's ABM and ICBM systems, Russia needs
to tell Uncle Scam to take a 15-25 year hike. It is just and proper for the children of NATO elites to wet their beds in fear
of nuclear annihilation. This is what keeps the peace. Without this fear the NATO elites start to get drunk on their own
racist propaganda koolaid about owning all of human intelligence and being able to win nuclear wars.
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kvs wrote:It is just and proper for the children of NATO elites to wet their beds in fear of nuclear annihilation. This is what keeps the peace. Without this fear the NATO elites start to get drunk on their own racist propaganda koolaid about owning all of human intelligence and being able to win nuclear wars.
Bingo. Well spoken, could not agree more....
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile
It's said that 'Nudol' (pictured in the Almaz-Antey calendar) is the launcher for the A-235 system, and like the video states it's attributes are highly classified, but I've heard rumors of the range being 1,200 km and even as high as 2,500 km with conventional HE-Frag warhead.
That launcher in picture is for S-500 , A-235 will be fixed system like US GMD
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Austin ... it does not need to be. A-235 could be mobile due to the hi efficiency fuel and new materials. Its jot like its 1960. Science has evolved
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Austin...that picture is not of the S-500. It is the A-235. There are no photos of the S-500 yet.
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Austin wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:Viktor wrote:Excellent report from South Front about A-235 system - well gentleman ... system is mobile
It's said that 'Nudol' (pictured in the Almaz-Antey calendar) is the launcher for the A-235 system, and like the video states it's attributes are highly classified, but I've heard rumors of the range being 1,200 km and even as high as 2,500 km with conventional HE-Frag warhead.
That launcher in picture is for S-500 , A-235 will be fixed system like US GMD
Thing on pic should be Izd 14C033 launcher for Nudol, however there was never confirmation from either Almaz or Russian MoD.
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Russia tests Nudol anti-satellite system
Back in December 2015, Bill Gertz reported on a "the first successful flight test of a new anti-satellite missile." According to Gertz's source in the Pentagon, the test, conducted on November 18, 2015, was a third (and the first successful) test of a system known as Nudol. It is said to be a direct-ascent ASAT system.
The name Nudol appeared a few times in various reports over the last few years, so it is not entirely new. This report says that parts of the Nudol project are carried out by the Novator design bureau in Ekaterinburg. Another suggests that Almaz-Antey acts as the lead developer and the missile is known as 14A042. (A search for "14А042" returns a link to a very interesting letter, but you have to know Russian to fully appreciate it. In brief, it's a colorful complaint about four bolts that didn't quite fit specifications.)
There is, in fact, an image to come with the name, although it is difficult to say how close this image is to the real thing.
There is not much more to report today beyond what Bill Gertz wrote in December. But there are a few interesting details. First, the system that is being tested in indeed Nudol. At this point, however, the tests do not involve a kill vehicle - these are tests of the launcher. Given the Novator role it is safe to assume that the launcher uses solid-propellant motors. The missiles are launched from the Plesetsk test site with burnout stages falling somewhere in the Nenets Autonomous Okrug.
http://russianforces.org/blog/2016/04/russia_tests_nudol_anti-satell.shtml
Back in December 2015, Bill Gertz reported on a "the first successful flight test of a new anti-satellite missile." According to Gertz's source in the Pentagon, the test, conducted on November 18, 2015, was a third (and the first successful) test of a system known as Nudol. It is said to be a direct-ascent ASAT system.
The name Nudol appeared a few times in various reports over the last few years, so it is not entirely new. This report says that parts of the Nudol project are carried out by the Novator design bureau in Ekaterinburg. Another suggests that Almaz-Antey acts as the lead developer and the missile is known as 14A042. (A search for "14А042" returns a link to a very interesting letter, but you have to know Russian to fully appreciate it. In brief, it's a colorful complaint about four bolts that didn't quite fit specifications.)
There is, in fact, an image to come with the name, although it is difficult to say how close this image is to the real thing.
There is not much more to report today beyond what Bill Gertz wrote in December. But there are a few interesting details. First, the system that is being tested in indeed Nudol. At this point, however, the tests do not involve a kill vehicle - these are tests of the launcher. Given the Novator role it is safe to assume that the launcher uses solid-propellant motors. The missiles are launched from the Plesetsk test site with burnout stages falling somewhere in the Nenets Autonomous Okrug.
http://russianforces.org/blog/2016/04/russia_tests_nudol_anti-satell.shtml
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All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.
Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.
China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.
Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.
China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.
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x_54_u43 wrote:All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.
Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.
China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.
...Seriously, the USSR was the first nation to carry out ASAT tests back in the early 1970's, then the US carried out it's first ASAT tests back in the mid-1980's, then China conducted there first ASAT test in......2007, more than 4 decades after Russia had the ability.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:x_54_u43 wrote:All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.
Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.
China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.
...Seriously, the USSR was the first nation to carry out ASAT tests back in the early 1970's, then the US carried out it's first ASAT tests back in the mid-1980's, then China conducted there first ASAT test in......2007, more than 4 decades after Russia had the ability.
The problem is that people thought Russia lost that ability. It wasn't that they lost it, it is just that they knew their systems worked for so long that there was no need to test it. Essentially, this Nudal is really just a newer system. And Artjohm is correct, it is actually tied to the missile defense system program. Essentially, this may very well be an addition to S-500. But seems to be tied to A-135 missile defense systems. So they needed to test it out, and so they did, and apparently was a success. So this is just a new move to a different system. Part of the aerospace defense as a whole. The old systems are more than likely still in place.
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sepheronx wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:x_54_u43 wrote:All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.
Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.
China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.
...Seriously, the USSR was the first nation to carry out ASAT tests back in the early 1970's, then the US carried out it's first ASAT tests back in the mid-1980's, then China conducted there first ASAT test in......2007, more than 4 decades after Russia had the ability.
The problem is that people thought Russia lost that ability. It wasn't that they lost it, it is just that they knew their systems worked for so long that there was no need to test it. Essentially, this Nudal is really just a newer system. And Artjohm is correct, it is actually tied to the missile defense system program. Essentially, this may very well be an addition to S-500. But seems to be tied to A-135 missile defense systems. So they needed to test it out, and so they did, and apparently was a success. So this is just a new move to a different system. Part of the aerospace defense as a whole. The old systems are more than likely still in place.
A-235 not A-135, as that is leaving service, plus it has nothing to do with losing the ability, it's just journalists being lazy and sloppy, BTW Russia had worked on ASAT LEO objects in the 90's/00's using the strategic interceptor Mig-31. The S-500 will at least have ASAT for LEO orbit, Nudol/A-235 may surpass that, but like you said it's part of the aerospace strategy, there's even talk of developing a S-500 missile for air-launched ABM, using strategic interceptors.
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x_54_u43 wrote:All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.
Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.
China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.
No one is saying Russia is behind them in ASAT weapons tech.
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max steel wrote:x_54_u43 wrote:All this talk about Russia being second to China in its ASAT capability is rather amusing.
Russia daily demonstrates its ability to intercept a 430km high, 7.6 km/s target.
China wishes it were even in the same league as Russia in this field.
No one is saying Russia is behind them in ASAT weapons tech.
I was referring to the article which stated Russia had tested ASAT after China
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Three tests of a 14Ts033 (14Ц033) system, which is apparently the designation of the entire system (rather than 14А042, which appears to be the missile). There were three test launches - on 12 August 2014, 22 April 2015, and 18 November 2015. Only the third one was successful (although none of them involved an intercept the tests do not involve a kill vehicle - these are tests of the launcher.).
The April 22, 2015 test was, in fact, reported at the time - as a failed test of a missile for the Antey-2500 air defense system. The missile was said to fail shortly after launch and all the debris landed within the perimeter of the test site.
The April 22, 2015 test was, in fact, reported at the time - as a failed test of a missile for the Antey-2500 air defense system. The missile was said to fail shortly after launch and all the debris landed within the perimeter of the test site.