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    Post  Guest Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:21 pm

    About North Korea. The truth probably lies somewhere in between. I do think there is truth it what they say about the government there. The North Korean Government for the most part is a relic of the Stalinist and Maoist times. With that said, the country is beginning to slowly open up to the world. The evidence supporting that is seen in the construction boom going on mostly around Pyongyang. I would not be surprised to see North Korea to go through a similar boom that nearly all its neighbors went through in the not so distant future because of cheap and available labor that is beginning to appear.

    Anyway here is some pictures of Pyongyang's construction boom: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=430395cfb84e020486737b384cd61984&t=1522800&page=10
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    Post  Svyatoslavich Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:51 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Best Korea Lends itself well to this, because the Kim family has had the good idea to "do" crazy stuff which amuse and scare the motherfuckers. When you do your dictatorial business the good old way (IE not too much and not too visible, à la Khadaffi), they treat you like a mobster and kill you. So lesson to be learnt here is this. Do it like Best Korea and fuckers won't try shit (oh and Build Nukes... clown ).

    NB: I'm talking about you Iran.
    Yes, you are completely right. The only exception being huge and powerful countries like Russia and China, which can have more normal and open governments (China isn't a democracy, but there is way more freedom and openness there than in NK).
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:13 pm

    Which claims about DPRK are lies and misconceptions?
    1. The existence of concentration camps?
    2. The existence of severe political terror (including large scale purges and executing people for minor disagreement)?
    3. The Existence of economic hardship that could be easily prevented by opening trade with China?

    There is absolutely no symmetry between what western media say about DPRK and what DPRK media say about Europe and USA. Western reports about North Korea may be biased sometimes but we can say with a decent level of certainity that they're true in about 85-90%. DPRK reports about the west are true in maybe 5% - AFAIk several years ago they claimed that the USSR still exists.

    And if you guys want to take info about DPRK, why do you take it from sites like "antiimperialism.com"? Why not take info from known and reputable non-western sources - like RT, Xinhua, Press TV, Fars News?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:30 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Which claims about DPRK are lies and misconceptions?
    1. The existence of concentration camps?
    2. The existence of severe political terror (including large scale purges and executing people for minor disagreement)?
    3. The Existence of economic hardship that could be easily prevented by opening trade with China?

    There is absolutely no symmetry between what western media say about DPRK and what DPRK media say about Europe and USA. Western reports about North Korea may be biased sometimes but we can say with a decent level of certainity that they're true in about 85-90%. DPRK reports about the west are true in maybe 5% - AFAIk several years ago they claimed that the USSR still exists.

    And if you guys want to take info about DPRK, why do you take it from sites like "antiimperialism.com"? Why not take info from known and reputable non-western sources - like RT, Xinhua, Press TV, Fars News?

    Well the fact that people in the DPRK get slotted by various flamboyant means...AA, Mortar, AT-gun shit like that. The fact is that there isn't ANYTHING reported about the DPRK outside of the lunacy of its leaders...however this is a fairly new trend. Until 1995 the DPRK wasn't worse than Cuba or Syria when it came to living conditions. After the Nuclear Embargo insanity the DPRK became a medieval rural nightmare.

    The fact that the leadership wanted to maintain itself, by building nukes, proves that hardship is entirely, ENTIRELY satisfactory when it comes to "self defence". Now Muammar Ghadaffi in Hell, regrets selling off his Nuclear stash. Guess who's the crazy motherfucker who disses the US without even batting an eyelash. Big Fat Kim that's who!

    From a humanitarian POV, the country is completely ravaged. But from a political POV I'd say big fat KIM can only bring things up...now his regime's survival is insured by a couple of kilotons...Hell, the DPRK can subsist Chinese style and flip the bird to South Korea overtime AND have Big Fat Kim hanged. This is the beauty of this. Korea is about to go the Chinese way, with or without Kim, but there won't be a German Scenario so far.
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    Post  max steel Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:36 pm

    Is there any defense pact btwn south koreans and murika ?.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:44 pm

    If DPRK officials wanted to improve the humanitarian situation in the country, they could simply conduct economic reforms, let Chinese investments move in and wait - after 15-20 years the country would be changed beyond recognition. They must truly believe in the Juche BS and it's dogma of "self-sufficiency" - otherwise how do we explain self-imposed economic isolation?
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:45 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Which claims about DPRK are lies and misconceptions?
    1. The existence of concentration camps?
    2. The existence of severe political terror (including large scale purges and executing people for minor disagreement)?
    3. The Existence of economic hardship that could be easily prevented by opening trade with China?

    There is absolutely no symmetry between what western media say about DPRK and what DPRK media say about Europe and USA. Western reports about North Korea may be biased sometimes but we can say with a decent level of certainity that they're true in about 85-90%. DPRK reports about the west are true in maybe 5% - AFAIk several years ago they claimed that the USSR still exists.

    And if you guys want to take info about DPRK, why do you take it from sites like "antiimperialism.com"? Why not take info from known and reputable non-western sources - like RT, Xinhua, Press TV, Fars News?

    All of them are lies which we recieve here in our "democracatic" "countries".

    1. There are no concentration camps just blatant lies about prisons with labour for inmates which exists in almost every country.
    2. No terror from the state and mass purges of people for minor disaggreements exist. This is south korean propaganda to keep a "communist threat" and "subhuman" behavior alive to justify their actions in that region.

    There are plenty of cases of this retarded propaganda from US and South Korea. You can see links to that in the link i've posted, even tho some of those links are correcting their miss reporting by jumping on anti North Korea bandwagon, but with a huge amount of hatefiled comments about North Korea and Kim Yong Un.

    For instance South Korea and Free Radio Asia have reported some time ago that because of an anchor having made a mistake in a news she was alledgley executed on order of Kim Yong Un, just to appear few days later back on show. Another His wife was purged that came from South Korea after his wife wasn't shown on television for some time and then this propaganda was spread across western countries of how cruel and evil North Korea and Kim Yong Un is, while days after she appeared back infront of cameras.

    Uncle executed, military officer executed for sleeping during his job and alot of other nonsense by mortar fire or flak cannons which were all lies to keep the image of bad communist korea to justify any actions of the empire we know as US.

    3. Economic hardship is imposed by US and their UN paid slaves to asure such a policy of isolation with hardballing of US policy to dictate how North Korea should make their politics by the will of US, since the North Korean leadership and people do not want that, they further ignore and protect themselfs from that by turning inwards with some trade to other countries. The trade with foreign countries is also made more difficult since North Korea is banned from SWIFT and other trade mechanisms which make trade more difficult. DPRK is already trading with China and china is ignoring western impossed sanctions to a great degree since the West can't do jackshit about what China does, their entire economy are build around China as a labour, not to mention their high amount of debts they ow to China.

    Why do you believe in such "news" of how evil Kim Yong Un and North Korea are without any video proof or any other kind of proof of them actually doing what they are accused off. It is constantly and always just the same blatant propaganda about North Korea like they do about Putin or Russia in western medias, they selectively use footage of people they try to demonize, without sound, so you can't hear anything or any interview of those leaders while showing selective images that only can create one perception "showing muscles" which has created a personal cult around Vladimir Putin here in our west rather than in Russia. Russians constantly see him and hear him, we never hear him we only get images with constantly with racist remarks and right out propaganda of him being Hitler. The same we hear about Kim Yong Un even tho he studied in Switzerland and speaks German fluently. We never hear him and lot of the alledgly news that came from North Korea making claims about Sun landings, or threatening to wage a war agaisnt United States are all lies by US and South Korea, they are not stupid, they do not rely on foreign politics in any kind and form, they are soley domestic oriented.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:50 pm

    max steel wrote:Is there any defense pact btwn south koreans and murika ?.

    Yup and there are US Troops in ROK (USFK - 30K troops)

    Mostly because ROK has signed a bilateral agreement to not undertake military atomic research (1970'). It was caught in 1972 enriching Plutonium and was forced to cease (1974 '123' agreement), then it was caught again in 1997 and 2004 after signing ANOTHER agreement with the US in 1992. It disclosed also it had made forays in laser enrichment in the 80's and as late as 2000. In 2004 while IAEA beat the shit out of Iran for allegations, Korea was caught having produced weapons grade plutonium and having mastered laser enrichment. That went totally silent and no one started Embargos on ROK. Double standarts...

    And for obvious DPRK reasons...
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:54 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    max steel wrote:Is there any defense pact btwn south koreans and murika ?.

    Yup and there are US Troops in ROK (USFK - 30K troops)

    Mostly because ROK has signed a bilateral agreement to not undertake military atomic research (1970'). It was caught in 1972 enriching Plutonium and was forced to cease (1974 '123' agreement), then it was caught again in 1997 and 2004 after signing ANOTHER agreement with the US in 1992. It disclosed also it had made forays in laser enrichment in the 80's and as late as 2000. In 2004 while IAEA beat the shit out of Iran for allegations, Korea was caught having produced weapons grade plutonium and having mastered laser enrichment. That went totally silent and no one started Embargos on ROK. Double standarts...

    And for obvious DPRK reasons...

    Laser enrichment?

    Hear first time of that, can you give a little explanation on that?
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:03 pm

    Werewolf

    Why do I believe such claims? That's simple - I know history of other communist countries through 20th century and I know that they weren't exactly known for astronomical levels of political freedom - therefore I can draw parellels of what can and cannot be possible in DPRK.

    The entire DPRK was directly modeled after Stalinist USSR - and it has not undergone any massive reform of government akin to de-stalinization in the USSR or Deng Xiaoping's reforms in PRC. The entire DPRK stands almost exactly as it was 60 years ago - in fact they were so obsessed about Kim Il Sung that after his death they declared him to be "Eternal President" - in 20th century no other country declared a dead man to be their leader.

    As for their economic hardships -I already said what has to be done - abandon the Juche BS, reform the economic so that people can run their own businesses legally and let Chinese capital do it's job. The whole country would benefit from that, including the leadership


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:05 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:If DPRK officials wanted to improve the humanitarian situation in the country, they could simply conduct economic reforms, let Chinese investments move in and wait - after 15-20 years the country would be changed beyond recognition. They must truly believe in the Juche BS and it's dogma of "self-sufficiency" - otherwise how do we explain self-imposed economic isolation?

    Yes they could, however, as one can see, more "democratic" countries in the world with less handicaps don't fare that better. See Africa for instance...The core of the Issue is this. After USSR going bust, suddenly the DPRK felt "ronery". It had no means to protect from the Democrazy forces, especially during the expansive deployment of US power. Let us recall that the US was on a roll, it bombed the shit out of Panama, then Iraq, then felt it could pacify Somalia and also started supporting the Croats in the Yugo civil war. How would have you felt if you were DPRK honcho? Let us remind that the DPRK under Kim il Sung was relatively capable to defend itself against the ROK, however that changed when the Cold war died down and the US started trickling down surplus shit to the ROK. Worse Russia was now talking the ROK to cancel debts in favour of military hardware, it had denied to the DPRK. What does one do? Well, it starts an atomic program. Unfortunately Kim Il Sung dies in 1994 and then his deranged son comes in. The dude isn't well, but nukular he can do. And he does, although that costs the country pretty much all the leverage they formerly had.

    The other issue is also that the isolation ISN'T self imposed. Building Nukes under the nose of Beijing and Moscow, wasn't going to go down well. It was even worse after the latter was almost done as a world power and the earlier was only taking off economically. It became so when the DPRK leadership, understood that the program would be a lot safer with a total control...and voilà, now the country is opening back again, slowly and with the usual BS. But it's mostly back on track.

    You have to look at the context to understand why things are the way they are. That doesn't mean I agree with the DPRK, but I can see how they thought this over. And seen how non-"nukular" countries tend to end belly up at the smallest US whim, well I'd say well done Big Fat Kim, you're a murderous Machiavellian motherfucker. But an Alive murderous Machiavellian motherfucker.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:12 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Werewolf

    Why do I believe such claims? That's simple - I know history of other communist countries through 20th century and I know that they weren't exactly known for astronomical levels of political freedom - therefore I can draw parellels of what can and cannot be possible in DPRK.

    The entire DPRK was directly modeled after Stalinist USSR - and it has not undergone any massive reform of government akin to de-stalinization in the USSR or Deng Xiaoping's reforms in PRC. The entire DPRK stands almost exactly as it was 60 years ago - in fact they were so obsessed about Kim Il Sung that after his death they declared him to be "Eternal President" - in 20th century no other country declared a dead man to be their leader.

    Yes, you rely on beLIEves, not on knowledge. You have certainly no idea about communist countries of the 20th century since there was never such a thing as a communist country. Just to help you with understanding please write down the meaning of USSR and then find me the Kommunistichisky in it. For those who believe there is such a thing as a Democratic country we can clearly see and say that it was never the case, electing in short terms of 4 years another crook we know in advance he is lying and then doing the opposite is not democratic, you have no say in politics meaning you live in a dictatorship with changing faces.

    Or for you to put it in Angela Merkels words here a video of what she said and how democratic germany is.



    For those who do not understand german.

    She said: "What was said before elections can not be garanteed to be the case afterwards"

    Again you only parrot western lies about North Korea, you have absolutley zero evidence nor material of actual North Korean sources to base that upon. They have far more political freedom than you are indoctrinated to believe.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:13 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    max steel wrote:Is there any defense pact btwn south koreans and murika ?.

    Yup and there are US Troops in ROK (USFK - 30K troops)

    Mostly because ROK has signed a bilateral agreement to not undertake military atomic research (1970'). It was caught in 1972 enriching Plutonium and was forced to cease (1974 '123' agreement), then it was caught again in 1997 and 2004 after signing ANOTHER agreement with the US in 1992. It disclosed also it had made forays in laser enrichment in the 80's and as late as 2000. In 2004 while IAEA beat the shit out of Iran for allegations, Korea was caught having produced weapons grade plutonium and having mastered laser enrichment. That went totally silent and no one started Embargos on ROK. Double standarts...

    And for obvious DPRK reasons...

    Laser enrichment?

    Hear first time of that, can you give a little explanation on that?

    In short, it is making use of the unique frequencies at which atoms and molecules vibrate. A laser is locked to the precise vibrational frequency of a U-235 atom or a molecule which has U-235 can cause that isotope to behave differently from the heavier U-238.

    You start the so called molecular laser isotope separation, enrichment begins with uranium hexafluoride gas—in which each uranium atom is surrounded by six fluorine atoms—mixed with an inert gas that dilutes the uranium. The gas is cooled and expulsed out of a nozzle at very high speeds (supersonic). Rapid-fire pulses from an infrared laser penetrate the gas, increasing the vibrational energy in the U-235 molecules' chemical bonds.

    A new molecule forms around the U-235. It lasts for less than a microsecond before breaking apart, and the repelling force from that event pushes the U-235 to the edges of the stream, where it can then be siphoned off.

    Australians do this since the 80's. The Soviets tried but it was rather unstable and unnecessary, same for the US.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:19 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    max steel wrote:Is there any defense pact btwn south koreans and murika ?.

    Yup and there are US Troops in ROK (USFK - 30K troops)

    Mostly because ROK has signed a bilateral agreement to not undertake military atomic research (1970'). It was caught in 1972 enriching Plutonium and was forced to cease (1974 '123' agreement), then it was caught again in 1997 and 2004 after signing ANOTHER agreement with the US in 1992. It disclosed also it had made forays in laser enrichment in the 80's and as late as 2000. In 2004 while IAEA beat the shit out of Iran for allegations, Korea was caught having produced weapons grade plutonium and having mastered laser enrichment. That went totally silent and no one started Embargos on ROK. Double standarts...

    And for obvious DPRK reasons...

    Laser enrichment?

    Hear first time of that, can you give a little explanation on that?

    In short, it is making use of the unique frequencies at which atoms and molecules vibrate. A laser is locked to the precise vibrational frequency of a U-235 atom or a molecule which has U-235 can cause that isotope to behave differently from the heavier U-238.

    You start the so called molecular laser isotope separation, enrichment begins with uranium hexafluoride gas—in which each uranium atom is surrounded by six fluorine atoms—mixed with an inert gas that dilutes the uranium. The gas is cooled and expulsed out of a nozzle at very high speeds (supersonic). Rapid-fire pulses from an infrared laser penetrate the gas, increasing the vibrational energy in the U-235 molecules' chemical bonds.

    A new molecule forms around the U-235. It lasts for less than a microsecond before breaking apart, and the repelling force from that event pushes the U-235 to the edges of the stream, where it can then be siphoned off.

    Australians do this since the 80's. The Soviets tried but it was rather unstable and unnecessary, same for the US.

    Interesting, thanks.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:28 pm

    BTW traces of military grade plutonium were found again in 2007 in South Korea...Did you heard any about that? Of course not, 'friends' aren't treated the same...
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    Post  max steel Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:59 pm

    http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/south-koreas-nuclear-mis-adventures/


    Here is more info on S.Korea misadventures. But nothing has been reported after 2004 on this issue. US shipped live anthrax samples to its base in S.Korea. biological attack seems quiet on chart. South Korea is one of the few countries that has the raw materials and equipment to produce a nuclear weapon but has not.

    I find it quiet interesting that usa was so scared of nuclear weapons technology falling in the hand of other nations i guess deep down they know their missile shields are useless .
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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:16 pm

    North, South Korea reach agreement after marathon talks — Yonhap

    The second round of talks between representatives of Seoul and Pyongyang lasted for over 24 hours

    SEOUL, August 24. /TASS/. Senior aides to the leaders of North and South Korea, negotiating at the border village of Panmunjom, have reached an agreement, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.

    "South Korea and North Korea reached an agreement Tuesday," the agency quoted Seoul's presidential spokesman as saying, adding that details of the agreement would be announced at 2 a.m. local time on Tuesday /8 p.m. Moscow time on Monday/.

    Top negotiators of the two sides have been in marathon talks since Saturday seeking to defuse tensions on the Korean peninsula.

    The situation there deteriorated seriously on Thursday after North and South Korea exchanged artillery fire in the western part of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ). Seoul claimed that North Korea was the first to open fire and the artillery shelling was aimed at South Korea’s propaganda loudspeakers installed nearby. Pyongyang rejected the allegations.

    On the same day, North Korea forwarded an ultimatum to South Korea to stop broadcasting anti-Pyongyang propaganda through loudspeakers, to dismantle the equipment within next 48 hours and threatened military action otherwise. Seoul declared it would not meet Pyongyang’s demands.

    The meeting at the Demilitarized Zone village began soon after the deadline for North Korea's ultimatum expired.
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    Post  Guest Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:29 pm

    So basically North placed mines where they were not allowed to, two South soldiers lost their legs, and then South used propaganda speakers on border which got targeted by Norths MLRS and then South returned by howtizer fire... They should make a theater play with this plot, id like to watch it.
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    Post  max steel Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:08 am

    North Korea fires 5 short-range projectiles

    North Korea fired five short-range projectiles into the sea on Monday, Seoul officials said, in a continuation of weapon launches it has carried out in apparent response to ongoing South Korea-U.S. military drills it sees as a provocation.

    The projectiles launched from a site near the northeastern city of Hamhung flew about 200 kilometers (125 miles) before landing in waters off North Korea's east coast, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

    The South Korean military was attempting to determine whether the projectiles were missiles, artillery shells or rockets.

    The firings came three days after Seoul said North Korea launched its first medium-range ballistic missile into the sea since early 2014, ignoring U.N. resolutions against such tests.

    The firings appear to be North Korea's response to annual springtime U.S.-South Korean military exercises that it says are a rehearsal for an invasion. In the past two weeks North Korea has fired several short-range missiles and artillery shells into the sea and threatened pre-emptive nuclear strikes against Washington and Seoul.

    This year's drills are the largest ever, and come after North Korea conducted a nuclear test and a long-range rocket launch earlier this year, leading the U.N. Security Council to impose its toughest sanctions on the country in two decades.

    The U.S. special representative for North Korean policy, Sung Kim, who is visiting Seoul, said Monday that North Korea "should refrain from all provocative actions, including missile tests, which are clearly in violation of Security Council resolutions."

    On Sunday, North Korean state TV broadcast photos of leader Kim Jong Un supervising landing and defensive drills. The photos showed artillery blazing, navy ships landing as shells fell nearby, and soldiers running with the national flag. North Korea has a history of photo manipulation and there was no way to verify the authenticity of the photos.

    Last week, state media said Kim ordered tests of a nuclear warhead and ballistic missiles capable of carrying such armaments. He issued the orders while overseeing what state media called a successful simulated test of a re-entry vehicle aimed at returning a nuclear warhead to the atmosphere from space so it could hit its intended target. The re-entry vehicle is considered one of the last major technologies North Korea must master to develop long-range missiles equipped with nuclear weapons capable of reaching the U.S. mainland.

    Analysts in South Korea said the medium-range missile launch last Friday may have been a test of the re-entry technology. North Korean state media have not commented on the reported launch.

    South Korean defense officials say North Korea doesn't yet have functioning intercontinental ballistic missiles. Suspect
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    Post  max steel Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:45 pm

    North Korea submarine movement detected at disputed border

    North Korea submarine movement was detected near the western coast of the peninsula, according to South Korean sources.The unusual activity involved the deployment of several submarines that were detected on South Korean sonar, local news network MBC reported.

    The submarines appeared to have been dispatched from an area where Pyongyang keeps its fleet, including the 1,800-ton Romeo-class submersible craft.The submarines crossed the Northern Limit Line, a disputed maritime border, in an exercise that appeared to be a preparation for a provocation.

    South Korea and U.S. intelligence authorities both detected the movements, according to MBC.A South Korean government official who spoke on the condition of anonymity said two or three submarines "moved south" then briefly emerged from the water.

    These maneuvers are all part of regular training exercises and the South is closely monitoring the situation, the official said.By late Thursday all submarines had returned north of the NLL but in case of an emergency the area is under constant surveillance, the official said.

    North Korea operates numerous submarines, including the smaller shark and salmon-class crafts, according to the report.Kim Dae-young, a senior research fellow at the Korea Defense and Security Forum, said North Korean submarines could launch a torpedo attack against South Korean vessels.

    In a time of rising tensions, South Korean firms have been creating core technology to detect incoming submarines. Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering recently completed development of a system to detect underwater radiation noise, Yonhap reported Thursday.

    The DURAN Mark-1 detects noise coming from submarines including underwater movements from submarine propellers.The noise patterns are used to identify the location of the craft, according to the report.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:48 pm

    Fantastic news. Having visited DPRK I realised that if they directed more money towards the economy they could actually be successful. They are more skilled than the media give them credit for. Scale back missile tests and all nuclear tests and scale back military especially in the oldest systems would give them a big saving in money.

    North Korea’s leader Kim Jong-un has expressed his wish to end the history of confrontation on the Korean Peninsula, a spokesman of South Korea's President Moon Jae-In said Friday.

    https://sputniknews.com/asia/201804271063949682-north-korea-south-korea-statements/
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:00 am

    The only difference between poverty stricken north and wealthy productive south Korea is western isolation and western investment respectively.

    Proof that communism is not the problem... the west uses its military to punish countries... but it also uses its wallet to do the same in a more sinister way.

    Imagine a white guy walked into a corner store and said "You are Indian, and you have beliefs and a culture I don't agree with... I will never buy anything from you until you become more like me".

    Of course reality is that many wont say out loud but they do that anyway... and not just whites of course... You are different so I wont spend money here.
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    Post  Dima Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:16 am

    There has been much overt events, including diplomatic, during the past 7 months which culminated in the June 12 summit in Singapore.

    There are a lot videos to post but for now this excellent documentary with exclusive footage from the Singapore summit by Korean official broadcaster, KCNA.

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    Post  Dima Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:22 am

    Trump's press meet after the summit in Singapore. You can see and hear a lot of presstitutes with their usual questions.


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