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    Post  Jelena Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:45 am

    Korean warships clash near disputed sea border


    by Lim Chang-Won Lim Chang-won   – 42 mins ago (10 November)

    SEOUL (AFP) – A North Korean patrol boat was set ablaze after exchanging fire with South Korea's navy on Tuesday, Seoul officials said, as cross-border tensions rose a week before a scheduled US presidential visit.

    The two sides blamed each other for the clash, the first for seven years near the disputed Yellow Sea border.

    President Lee Myung-Bak called an emergency meeting of security ministers as his Prime Minister Chung Un-Chan accused the North of making a "direct attack" on a South Korean high-speed patrol craft.

    "There was no damage on our side while a North Korean patrol boat engulfed in flame sailed back (across the border)," Chung told parliament.

    He described the clash, which follows recent peace overtures from the North, as unplanned and urged people to stay calm.
    Some analysts, however, said Pyongyang may be sending President Barack Obama a message, eight days before he arrives in South Korea as part of an Asian tour.

    Defence Minister Kim Tae-Young told parliament the North's boat sailed more than 1.6 kilometres (one mile) south of the border and "I believe they clearly knew about the intrusion".

    The Joint Chiefs of Staff said the South's boat sent several warning signals after the North's craft crossed the border, but the intruder held its course.

    After the South fired warning shots, "the North's side opened fire, directly aiming at our ship. Then our ship responded by firing back, forcing the North Korean boat to return to the north," the statement said.

    "There were no casualties on our side. We are on the lookout for any further provocations by the North," it said.
    "We fired heavily on the North Korean vessel," an unidentified navy official told Yonhap news agency, adding the initial assessment was that it suffered considerable damage.

    "We express our strong protest to North Korea and urge it to prevent a recurrence of such incidents," said Brigadier-General Lee Ki-Sik of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    He said the two sides exchanged fire for two minutes from a distance of about three kilometres. The North fired about 50 rounds, 15 of which hit the South Korean boat.

    The border known as the Northern Limit Line (NLL) has always been a potential flashpoint and was the scene of bloody naval clashes in 1999 and 2002.

    General Lee said the North breached the NLL 22 times this year. But this was the first time the South had to fire warning shots, because the patrol boat kept intruding despite five warning signals.Chronology: NKorea, SKorea clashes

    North Korea's military, however, told its South Korean counterpart to apologise for a "grave armed provocation" and said Seoul's ships had opened fire while its craft was north of the border.
    In a report on Pyongyang's official media, the North said its boat "lost no time to deal a prompt retaliatory blow at the provokers".

    "This might be an intentional clash aimed at heightening tension ahead of Obama's trip," Kim Yong-Hyun, a professor at Dongguk University, told YTN television.

    "I believe North Korea is trying to show Obama the volatility of the peninsula. North Korea has demanded a peace pact be signed with the US to replace the truce agreement (which ended the 1950-53 war)."

    Yoo Ho-Yeol of Korea University said the clash appeared intended to raise tension before Obama's visit. "North Koreans believe tension helps them strengthen their bargaining power," he told Yonhap.

    But Yang Moo-Jin of Seoul's University of North Korean Studies told AFP that if it had been a deliberate provocation, the North would have mobilised more than one patrol boat.

    The clash came amid Pyongyang's peace feelers to Seoul and Washington after months of hostility marked by its missile test-launches and a nuclear test.

    The North has invited US special envoy Stephen Bosworth to Pyongyang for talks on ending the standoff about its nuclear weapons programme. Washington was expected to decide soon to go ahead with the trip.

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    Post  Russian Patriot Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:23 pm

    Explosion Sinks S. Korean Navy Ship in Tense Border Area With North


    Kurt Achin | Seoul 26 March 2010

    South Korean officials are not ruling out the possibility of a North Korean attack in the sinking of one of the South's naval vessels. About half the more than 100 people on board the ship were rescued, and search efforts are still under way for the remaining crew. An explosion damaged the ship in a historically tense disputed border area.

    South Korean President Lee Myung-bak ordered an emergency meeting of senior security officials Friday night, hours after an apparent explosion caused a South Korean patrol boat to sink.

    Lee Gi-sik, with South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters the military's primary focus was on saving those aboard.

    He says at 9:45pm local time, the South's ship was passing southwest of South Korea's Baekryoung island when it began sinking due to damage on its bottom side. He says other vessels were mobilized and dozens of people were rescued from the distressed ship.

    Baekryoung island is located in waters west of the Korean peninsula, very close to what is called the Northern Limit Line. The maritime border was designated by the United Nations at the signing of a 1953 armistice to halt fighting in the Korean War.

    North Korea has never accepted the border as valid, and the North and South have fought at least three separate naval clashes in the area in the past 11 years.

    South Korean officials are not yet pointing any fingers but say they are not ruling out the possibility that the vessel was the target of a North Korean torpedo attack.

    Lee says a South Korean naval vessel detected an unidentified object on its radar and fired several warning shots. He says he cannot confirm what the object was.

    North Korea warned this month it was bolstering its defenses in response to routine annual military drills South Korea conducts with the United States.

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    Post  Admin Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:13 pm

    It exploded the rear of the ship. My guess is wake homing torpedo from midget sub.
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    Post  Russian Patriot Thu May 20, 2010 8:19 pm

    Korea accuses North of sinking its warship in March - agency

    RIA Novosti

    20/05/201006:12

    MOSCOW, May 20 (RIA Novosti) - Seoul announced on Thursday that a North Korean submarine sank a South Korean warship in March, the Yonhap news agency said.

    The 1,200-ton Cheonan corvette sunk on the night of March 26 near the disputed Northern Limit Line (NLL) in the Yellow Sea after a sudden explosion that killed 46 sailors.

    A team of international investigators confirmed on Thursday suspicions that the ship was destroyed by a torpedo launched from a North Korean submarine.
    "We have reached a clear conclusion that South Korea's Cheonan [corvette] was sunk as a result of an external underwater explosion caused by a torpedo made in North Korea," Yonhap quoted Yoon Duk-yong, co-head of the investigation team, as saying.

    "The evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that the torpedo was fired by a North Korean submarine," the official added.

    The conclusions of the investigation may lead to further deterioration of the already sour relations between the two Koreas and jeopardize international efforts to stop Pyongyang's controversial nuclear weapons and ballistic missile development programs.

    North Korea has already called the results of the investigation "a fabrication," and warned Seoul of stern response if the South retaliated with new sanctions against Pyongyang over the alleged attack on its warship.

    The two countries remain technically at war as their 1950-1953 conflict ended only in an armistice.

    Naval clashes between the two states over the disputed sea border took place in 1999, 2002 and last year.

    Korea accuses North of sinking its warship in March - agency
    RIA Novosti

    20/05/201006:12

    MOSCOW, May 20 (RIA Novosti) - Seoul announced on Thursday that a North Korean submarine sank a South Korean warship in March, the Yonhap news agency said.

    The 1,200-ton Cheonan corvette sunk on the night of March 26 near the disputed Northern Limit Line (NLL) in the Yellow Sea after a sudden explosion that killed 46 sailors.

    A team of international investigators confirmed on Thursday suspicions that the ship was destroyed by a torpedo launched from a North Korean submarine.

    "We have reached a clear conclusion that South Korea's Cheonan [corvette] was sunk as a result of an external underwater explosion caused by a torpedo made in North Korea," Yonhap quoted Yoon Duk-yong, co-head of the investigation team, as saying.

    "The evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that the torpedo was fired by a North Korean submarine," the official added.

    The conclusions of the investigation may lead to further deterioration of the already sour relations between the two Koreas and jeopardize international efforts to stop Pyongyang's controversial nuclear weapons and ballistic missile development programs.

    North Korea has already called the results of the investigation "a fabrication," and warned Seoul of stern response if the South retaliated with new sanctions against Pyongyang over the alleged attack on its warship.

    The two countries remain technically at war as their 1950-1953 conflict ended only in an armistice.

    Naval clashes between the two states over the disputed sea border took place in 1999, 2002 and last year.

    Korea accuses North of sinking its warship in March - agency
    RIA Novosti

    20/05/201006:12

    MOSCOW, May 20 (RIA Novosti) - Seoul announced on Thursday that a North Korean submarine sank a South Korean warship in March, the Yonhap news agency said.

    The 1,200-ton Cheonan corvette sunk on the night of March 26 near the disputed Northern Limit Line (NLL) in the Yellow Sea after a sudden explosion that killed 46 sailors.

    A team of international investigators confirmed on Thursday suspicions that the ship was destroyed by a torpedo launched from a North Korean submarine.

    "We have reached a clear conclusion that South Korea's Cheonan [corvette] was sunk as a result of an external underwater explosion caused by a torpedo made in North Korea," Yonhap quoted Yoon Duk-yong, co-head of the investigation team, as saying.

    "The evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that the torpedo was fired by a North Korean submarine," the official added.

    The conclusions of the investigation may lead to further deterioration of the already sour relations between the two Koreas and jeopardize international efforts to stop Pyongyang's controversial nuclear weapons and ballistic missile development programs.

    North Korea has already called the results of the investigation "a fabrication," and warned Seoul of stern response if the South retaliated with new sanctions against Pyongyang over the alleged attack on its warship.

    The two countries remain technically at war as their 1950-1953 conflict ended only in an armistice.

    Naval clashes between the two states over the disputed sea border took place in 1999, 2002 and last year.

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    Post  Admin Thu May 20, 2010 9:41 pm

    So I was right... I am good. thumbsup
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    Post  Admin Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:58 am

    Artillery fire on Korean border

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    South Korea says it has returned fire after North Korea fired around 200 artillery shells onto one of its border islands, reportedly killing one marine.

    The South's military was placed on its highest non-wartime alert after the shells landed on Yeonpyeong island.

    North Korea has not yet commented on the incident, in which three marines and two civilians were also injured.

    Correspondents say this is one of the most serious since the the Korean War ended without a peace treaty in 1953.

    There have been occasional cross-border clashes since, but the latest incident comes at a time of rising regional tension.

    North Korea's reclusive leader Kim Jong-il is believed to be ill and trying to engineer the succession of his youngest son. And on Saturday, North Korea showed off what it claimed was a new uranium enrichment facility - potentially giving it a second route to a nuclear weapon.

    The move prompted the US special representative for North Korea, Stephen Bosworth, to rule out the resumption of six-party talks on resolving the nuclear issue.

    South Korean presidential spokesman Kim Hee-jung also said it was investigating a possible link between the artillery attack and recent maritime exercises near the western sea border earlier on Tuesday.
    'Illegal firing'

    South Korean officials said artillery rounds landed on Yeonpyeong island, near the disputed inter-Korean maritime border to the west of the Korean Peninsula.

    "A North Korean artillery unit staged an illegal firing provocation at 1434 PM (0534 GMT) and South Korean troops fired back immediately in self-defence," a defence ministry spokesman told AFP.

    A resident on the island told the agency that dozens of houses were damaged, while television pictures reportedly showed plumes of smoke rising above the island.

    "Houses and mountains are on fire and people are evacuating. You can't see very well because of plumes of smoke," a witness on the island told YTN television station.

    "People are frightened to death," the witness added.

    South Korea had deployed fighter jets to the island, Yonhap news agency said.

    This western maritime border, also known as the Northern Limit Line, has been the scene of numerous clashes between the two Koreas in the past.

    In March, a South Korean warship went down near the border with the loss of 46 lives.

    International investigators say a North Korean torpedo sank the ship, although Pyongyang has denied any role in the incident.

    Since then relations between the two neighbours have remained tense.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005
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    Post  IronsightSniper Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:54 am

    This will end well.
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    Post  Admin Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:17 pm

    If N. Korea had pulled the shit of the last year on Russia, it would be occupied with a garrison.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:19 pm

    If N. Korea had pulled the shit of the last year on Russia, it would be occupied with a garrison.

    But then from their perspective all the sanctions being imposed on them and the economic isolation being imposed lead by the United States of America simply because they have a program to develop nuclear weapons (something Israel, South Africa, Pakistan, and India all did without the same level of sanctions and international isolation).
    And also technically they are still at war with South Korea anyway.

    The US complains that they keep secrets and then when they reveal they have a uranium enrichment plant the US cancels talks/negotiations.

    Best way to encourage talks is to do something really stupid like they have.

    What the US should have said after there new plant was revealed was to simply say that this gives them something else to talk about during talks.

    Of course the NKs will have enrichment plants... how does the US think they make nuclear bombs?

    Nuclear bomb trees?

    The simple reality is that NK wants to protect itself with Nuclear weapons and the US doesn't want them to.

    It comes down to what the US can offer them so that they don't want nuclear weapons anymore.

    Force wont work and isolation hasn't worked in 60 years so I guess it isn't going to.
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    Post  IronsightSniper Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:50 pm

    As you've said in many threads, Nuclear Weapons are not for defense if only a few nations have them. So, our problem is that if NK proliferates nuclear weapons, that'd leave the South extremely vulnerable as they don't even have much of an ABM force. Which would of course, lead to proliferation from the South.

    In any case, 1 million tonnes of rice doesn't seem to be working as much of a bribe.
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    Post  Russian Patriot Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:29 am

    North Korea has placed several dozen combat helicopters near its sea border with South Korea, the Yonhap news agency reported on Tuesday citing South Korean government sources.

    North Korea has deployed around 50 upgraded Russian-made helicopters on Baeknyeong Island in the West Sea since May.

    The attack helicopters are armed with rockets and antitank missiles and are capable of carrying explosives weighing up to 500 kilograms.

    The deployment appears to come in response to South Korea stationing AH-1S Cobra attack helicopters and multiple launch rocket systems on the West Sea islands.

    South Korea is ready to strike back with Cheonma surface-to-air-missiles or deploy KF-16 fighter jets, the source said.


    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120724/174753558.html
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:04 am

    Sounds sinister till this:

    The deployment appears to come in response to South Korea stationing AH-1S Cobra attack helicopters and multiple launch rocket systems on the West Sea islands.

    So it isn't an aggressive move, but a reaction to something South Korea did...
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    Post  SOC Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:50 pm

    ...which might have been a reaction to the DPRK shelling ROK islands in the first place. Who knows.
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    Post  George1 Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:54 am

    S Korea Claims Pyongyang Intensifies Activities Near Border: Reports

    According to an unnamed government source, South Korea has broadcast warning messages toward the North on "about 60 occasions" this year. South Korean troops did not fire a warning shot across the border in 2013, but had to so "five to six times" in 2014.

    MOSCOW, November 16 (Sputnik) — North Korean military have increased reconnaissance activities near the intensively guarded border in 2014 from the previous year, provoking more warning broadcasts and shots from South Korea, Yonhap news agency reported Sunday citing an unnamed government source.

    "North Korea has increased its reconnaissance in the demilitarized zone since last month," the source said. "The South Korean military is analyzing the North's intention behind it."

    According to the source, South Korea has broadcast warning messages toward the North on "about 60 occasions" this year. South Korean troops did not fire a warning shot across the border in 2013, but had to so "five to six times" in 2014.

    Recently, 10 North Korean soldiers came "a few feet south" of the military demarcation line (MDL), which was established by the armistice that marked the end of the Korean War in 1953 and stretches for about 250 kilometers. They reportedly took pictures of signposts. In response, South Korea fired warning shots, but there was no exchange of fire.

    Last month, the rivals exchanged fire after soldiers from North Korea drew near the MDL.

    According to a military official, the North has been sending about 10 soldiers at a time to check up on signs that mark the MDL.

    On Saturday, North Korea condemned South Korea for launching warning shots at its soldiers and claimed Seoul will have to pay for "provocations".

    Furthermore, on Sunday, Pyongyang blasted Seoul for seeking to purchase PAC-3 interceptor missiles from the US, warning it will counter the move with enhanced nuclear deterrence.

    According to Yonhap, South Korea is seeking to buy PAC-3 missiles to upgrade its present PAC-2 air defense system by 2020, to strengthen its defense against North Korea. PAC-3 interceptors are also a key element of the plan to build the Korean Air and Missile Defense (KAMD) system.

    Early this month, Washington approved the PAC-3 systems and related equipment for a price tag of $1.41 billion. The PAC-3 is capable to intercept missiles at an altitude of under 40 kilometers.

    "The US sale is a prelude to Washington's move to put South Korea under its missile defense system," said the Rodong Sinmun newspaper, an organ of the North's ruling Workers' Party of Korea as cited by Yonhap. "The weapons sale will push North Korea to the path of further strengthening nuclear deterrence."

    The newspaper also stressed that the expansion of the US missile defense system will trigger an arms race in the Northeast Asia.
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    Post  George1 Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:35 pm

    Pyongyang Calls on Seoul to Stop Military Drills to Improve Relations

    South Korea should "stop all kinds of war schemes", including military exercises carried out with other countries, North Korean state-run newspaper said.

    MOSCOW, January 11 (Sputnik) — Pyongyang has called on Seoul on Sunday to stop military drills in order to demonstrate the will to improve relations between the countries, Yonhap news agency reported, citing North Korean Cabinet's official newspaper Minju Choson.

    "If the South is truly determined to improve inter-Korean relations through dialogue and negotiations… it should stop all kinds of war schemes, including reckless military exercises carried out jointly with foreign forces," Yonhap quoted the North Korean newspaper.

    According to Yonhap, on Saturday Pyongyang said it would temporarily suspend its nuclear tests if South Korea cancelled joint military exercises with the United Stated planned for 2015.

    The two Koreas are formally in a state of war, as no peace treaty was signed after the Korean War of 1950-1953. Relations between North and South Korea worsened in 2010, when Seoul's Cheonan warship was sunk in the Yellow Sea and a South Korean investigation determined the vessel was hit by a North Korean torpedo. Since then, there have been several incidents at the border between the two Koreas, with two countries remaining particularly sensitive to each other’s military drills.
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    Post  George1 Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:24 am

    Joint US-South Korea Exercises ‘Root Cause’ of Tensions in Korea: Pyongyang

    The Deputy Permanent Representative of the DPRK to the United Nations said that the large scale war games, held in South Korea, are the root cause of the escalating tension on the Korean peninsula.

    UNITED NATIONS, January 14 (Sputnik) – The military drills that South Korea holds jointly with the United States, threaten to cause grave destabilization on the peninsula, An Myong Hun, Deputy Permanent Representative of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) to the United Nations, has announced.

    "The large scale war games, held in South Korea, are the root cause of the escalating tension on the Korean peninsula, and the danger of the nuclear war, facing the Korean nation. It is needless to say there can be no real trustful dialogue, nor improved inter Korea relations in such a gruesome atmosphere in which war exercises are staged," An Myong Hun said Tuesday.

    According to the representative, DPRK leader Kim Jung Un has been devoted to the issue of national reunification and to improving relations between North and South Korea, while the United States has "intervened in dialogue and cooperation between the north and south".

    The North Korean representative stressed that in order for a peaceful environment to be created on the Korean peninsula "the largest scale war exercises undertaken every year in South Korea, jointly by the US and South Korea, must stop immediately".

    "We the government of the DPRK propose to the US to temporarily suspend the joint military exercises, which it conducts every year in South Korea. And if this is the case, we will respond by temporarily suspending nuclear tests which the US is concerned about," An Myong Hun said.

    If the proposal is put in practice in 2015, "anything will be possible this year at the Korean peninsula", according to the DPRK representative.

    North and South Korea are formally in a state of war, as no peace treaty was signed after the Korean War of 1950-1953. South Korea and the United States carry out annual joint military exercises, aimed at testing readiness to counter a potential invasion from the North.

    Meanwhile DPRK declared itself a nuclear power in 2005 and has since conducted several nuclear tests. The country's nuclear program has triggered mass protests from the international community.
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    Post  George1 Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:22 am

    North Korea Tests More Missiles as Tensions Grow
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    Post  George1 Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:51 pm

    South Korea Reduces Water Supply to the North

    With North Korea slowly coming out of a long drought, the South Korean government has decided to reduce the supply of free water it was giving to the North.

    South Korea’s Ministry of Unification says the water it sends to North Korea will be cut from 7,000 tons to 5,000 tons a day.

    The ministry added that Seoul has reduced another supply of free water to Kaesong by 5,000 tons a day to 10,000 tons a day since December.

    This supply of water comes through a facility near a reservoir at the Kaesong Industrial Complex (GIC in Korean), where thousands of North Koreans live and work.

    “North Korea suffered a severe drought in 2014 and the amount of water stored in the reservoir at the GIC has been drying up,” unification ministry spokesman Lim Byeong-cheol told Korea Times. “The reservoir is the only source of water at the GIC and nearby region.”

    “It was inevitable to cut back the water supply and Pyongyang fully understands what led us to make such a decision.”

    “In the case of Kaseong, we’ve been providing water for its 300,000 citizens since 2007 because North Korea lacks civic infrastructure and asked us for support.”

    In addition to the residents, there are close to 53,000 North Korean working for 124 South Korean companies in the border cities, mostly small and medium-sized enterprises at the GIC that began operations in 2004 as part of inter-Korean reconciliatory efforts.

    While South Korea insists the water reduction is due to an improvement in drought conditions, both countries have had tense relations and it is not known if the water cut off was done in anger or out of spite.

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri May 15, 2015 12:14 am

    Series of bullshits about "information" of South Korea "intelligence agency" and the more bullshit of Western propaganda system:

    1) Western propaganda media: NK's defence minister was killed by AA machine gun

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32716749
    http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/east-asia/story/the-last-days-north-koreas-executed-defence-minister-hyon-yong-chol-201505
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/north-korean-minister-executed-by-anti-aircraft-fire-for-treason/6466174
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/13/north-korean-defence-minister-executed-by-anti-aircaft-gun-report
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/13/north-korean-defence-minister-executed-by-anti-aircaft-gun-report

    etc etc

    2) Then "South Koreans row back over North Korea anti-aircraft gun execution claim", say he was purged but unknown whether executed or not.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/14/south-korea-rows-back-over-north-korea-anti-aircraft-gun-execution-claim

    Images of Defence Minister still appeared on NK media in May, after he was "executed", that is very unusual because if someone is executed because of high treason in NK, his image will be virtually wiped out of the media.

    http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/68254/photo_id/164847/slider_photo/164847#sl

    What can we say about the capability of South Korean intelligence and the quality of Western media ? Not long ago Western media blah blah about an ex-girlfriend of Kim Jong Un was executed due to allegations about pornographic activities. But after a short while, she reappeared in a music event in Pyong yang, safe and sound.
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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:00 am

    Breaking Through: North Korean Soldier Defects to South Korea Via DMZ
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    Post  max steel Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:27 am

    NK SK exchange fire.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:05 pm

    Due the involvement of the US in South Korea and their vast coverage and control of the Medias in South Korea like Radio Free Asia are spreading and creating hostilities between both Korean countries to prevent unity and seek for union and independance of anglo-saxon occupation and influence of the nation and region.

    I've seen a disturbing amount of hatred towards North Korea with an almost trend and demonization to all cost without questioning how ridiculous some of those claims are. The majority of such hatefilled and dispicable news come from South Korea which today for non asians and non korean people can be directly compared with Ukraine with its blatant idiotic claims and news reporting against Russia of invasion, using nukes against ukraine, using armata tanks, the nonsense amount of reports of russian "terrorists" all ordered and paid by putin himself to harm sovereignity of ukraine etc pp. South Korea matches Ukraine in ridiculouse news and the hatefilled propaganda against their own nation and people under the directive of the US and harming own national interests aswell security.

    Among such ridiculous news about North Korea, how evil, totalitarian, bad place to live and how evil Kim yong Un is you can find constantly retarded propaganda of Kim Yong Un alledgey ordering deaths by artillery, death squads or Anti aircraft guns and ridiculous alike for sleeping officers or his wife which all turned out days after on camera to be well and alive.

    http://anti-imperialism.com/2014/08/14/western-dprk-propaganda-the-worst-occasionally-hilarious-and-often-racist-lies/

    Western DPRK Propaganda: The Worst, Occasionally Hilarious, and Often Racist, Lies
    Famous Singer executed by firing squad!

    … only to show up alive, grinning, and well on national television! Awwkwaaard!1

    Either the DPRK has discovered the long-lost art of necromancy (and the United States is in for a bone-shattering surprise when an undead Korean People’s Army comes rattling onto its shores), it has created an exceedingly advanced form of wax puppetry, or — forgive me for the plainly preposterous suggestion — the imperialist media gasp lies! So much for the bourgeois newspapers of South Korea — a country that is still officially at war with the DPRK — that eagerly grabbed into the story.

    This isn’t even the first time something like this has happened. Kim Jong Un’s wife was widely said to be “purged”, but then shows up days later, alive and well.2
    North Koreans forced to get Kim Jon Un-style haircuts!

    … only to admit a day later there is no evidence:3

    Recent visitors to the country say they’ve seen no evidence of any mass haircutting. North Korea watchers smell another imaginative but uncorroborated rumour.

    […]

    Washington, D.C.-based Radio Free Asia cited unnamed sources as saying an unwritten directive from somewhere within the ruling Workers’ Party went out early this month, causing consternation among students who didn’t think the new ‘do would suit them.

    Radio Free Asia, ah yes, famously impartial federally-funded organisation established by an act of the U.S congress citing “unnamed” sources.

    For an announcement this official apparently coming from the Workers’ Party itself, you would expect Rodong Sinmun, the Korean Central News Agency, or the Voice of Korea — all official government organs — to issue a statement on the matter. But, alas, not a peep.

    Photos of suggested hairstyles posted outside women’s hair salons — the kind allow a customer to show her hairdresser what she wants — are regularly depicted by foreign media as showing the only sanctioned styles North Korean women can choose from.

    Images that would garner nary a note before falling into obscurity if they were taken south of the border are sensationalised beyond belief as soon as the exceedingly lucrative “Location: The Axis of Evil” tag can be attributed to it.

    Slow news day? Feeling creative? Why not engorge your hit counter, pockets, and the frothing-at-the-mouth jingoism of your readership, and concoct a fantastical tale of the Rogue State!
    Football Squad Tortured for Loosing!

    It’s Radio Free Asia again, folks! This time one of their anonymous sources said “they were subjected to a session of harsh ideological criticism […] in front of 400 people”4. This makes no sense though. Loosing a match of football isn’t an ideological matter. It sounds (and it is) like a bad parody of the popular consciousness regarding the DPRK.

    The very same source then went on to contradict themselves just a couple sentences later, saying “how the players were reprimanded and what kind of punishment they received wasn’t known”.4

    A second anonymous source in the article stated that “There are rumours that coach Kim Jung Hun has been expelled from the Workers’ Party, or that he has been sent to perform forced labor at a residential building construction site in Pyongyang, but such rumors are hard to verify”.4

    Another variant of this rumour, this time an old one resurfacing again after first appearing in 1966, said that the punishment for loosing was in fact forced labour in a coal mine.5

    Famously reliable Asian Football Confederation chief Mohamed Bin Hammam jumped on the rumour mill. Although he noted that when he met several DPRK team members “I haven’t seen anything with my eyes or heard anything with my ears”, he mentioned an “unconfirmed report” (read: baseless lie) that “these players have gone through torture or something like that”.6

    FIFA decided to investigate the matter. Unsurprisingly they concluded that the reports were “baseless”, and that “training was as usual”. “With all of the information at hand, and having checked all of its sources, Fifa has decided to close the matter”.7 After loosing the North Korean football were rewarded, and seen enjoying, barbecues and massages.5

    Yet another rumour flying around for the 2010 world cup was that the supporters of the DPRK were paid Chinese actors. For this one, there weren’t even any anonymous sources given.8
    Football Team Won 2014 World Cup Final!

    Amidst the football frenzy as the next world cup rolls around, the imperialist media conjures up another topical lie:9

    Lack of information could make some people believe just about anything, even the most absurd of rumours. If further proof of that was needed, the latest example is a North Korean video assuring viewers that North Korea has secured a place in the World Cup final in Brazil after routing every one of its rivals. The sad fact is that the team actually failed even to qualify for the tournament. Nevertheless, foreign media somehow took it for granted that North Koreans could so easily be misled. Lots of authoritative news agencies and newspapers “swallowed” the hoax news and rushed to report that the North Korean government was fooling its people.

    This lie was astoundingly shallow:9

    To the attentive eye, the “hoax” carried a few obvious inconsistencies. First, North Korean television has broadcast all the key World Cup matches, which means that North Koreans definitely know which teams played each other and will sooner be watching the Germany-Argentina title match live on Sunday night, rather than waiting for the mythical North Korea-Portugal final.

    Second, the presenter’s lips weren’t completely in sync with the apparent soundtrack, suggesting that the original speech was different.

    Third, the voice-over bears a southern, rather than northern, accent and actually sounds a lot like a southerner trying to imitate a North Korean TV presenter.”

    but it didn’t stop it being widely reported by The Mirror, The Metro, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and the Toronto Sun, to name just a few (some of them have since updated their articles). As of the time of writing the original video has 6.7 million hits. Taking into account the hits on the various articles around the web would add millions more.

    The article further mentions other myths invented by sources with similiar agendas as the Radio Free Asia belonging to US and south korean sources preventing any natural progression towards reunion of once was an united Korea, about cannibalism, koreans landed on sun, mortar execution of one uncle of Kim Yong Un and a reddit invented nonsense that north korean's believe in unicorns.
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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:59 pm

    You are right, the propaganda is so ridiculous it hurts. But anyone who points out the obvious fiction will be accused
    of being a North Korean apologist. In the west you are either with us, or against us. With that kind of thinking and
    the "North Korean" style western media, it is the west that is showing signs of totalitarian excesses.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:46 pm

    Best Korea Lends itself well to this, because the Kim family has had the good idea to "do" crazy stuff which amuse and scare the motherfuckers. When you do your dictatorial business the good old way (IE not too much and not too visible, à la Khadaffi), they treat you like a mobster and kill you. So lesson to be learnt here is this. Do it like Best Korea and fuckers won't try shit (oh and Build Nukes... clown ).

    NB: I'm talking about you Iran.

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