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    China build artificial islands in South China Sea

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    Post  George1 Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:49 pm

    China's military infrastructure in the Spratly Archipelago in the South China Sea: June-December 2017

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3080755.html
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    Post  George1 Sun May 20, 2018 6:01 am

    The long-range bomber missile carrier H-6K of the 10th Bomber Division of the PLA Air Force landed for the first time on the disputed island of Yongxindao (the English-language name Woody, Paracel Islands).
    In February 2016, China placed two batteries of anti-aircraft missile systems HQ-9 on the island.
    At the same time, J-11 fighter jets and JH-7 fighter-bombers were spotted on the island. It was also reported about the deployment of anti-ship complexes of medium-range YJ-62 and unmanned aerial vehicles there.

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    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3205264.html
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:55 am

    US tells China to remove missile systems in South China Sea
    It'll have the same effect if China tells the US to close its bases on Okinawa, Guam & Diego Garcia, Japan tells Russia to do the same on S. Kurils, or if Argentina tells the UK to demilitarize the Falklands.
    https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/215727/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com


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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:47 pm

    Indeed.

    If climate change is really an issue there are a lot of countries around the world that will be interested in Chinese island building technology and experience... places like most of the islands of the Pacific would be interested for a start...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:33 pm

    And there too: In the Maldives, in the Indian Ocean, rising sea levels are causing salt water to intrude into underground fresh water supplies. In order to adapt, the country is trying to build rainwater cisterns and new pipe systems to ensure that its people have safe drinking water supplies. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/17/climate/islands-climate-change-un-bonn.html
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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:47 pm

    Many people don't realise it but when you are on a very small island getting clean drinking water is a real problem most of the time... the other problem is that if you use electrical power it is normally diesel generators which needs diesel to be imported so power is normally only on for a few hours a day.

    These new Russian portable NPPs combine the virtues of a stable continuous power supply, with the potential for desalination plant operation that can be used to create clean drinking water too.

    In colder regions it also generates heat as a byproduct that can also be used to support normal life too.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:59 pm

    US drops the gauntlet on the South China Sea ..China’s deployment of surface-to-air missiles and anti-cruise missile systems to contested islands earlier this year..- note that those r defensive systems! If they put AshMs there, they'll be used in defense to break the blockade or invasion.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:35 pm

    Indonesia arming up in the South China Sea
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:12 am

    War: US will not stand more than seven days against China: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2562064.html

    The JSDF won't be of much help; SK has a territorial dispute with Japan, so both Koreas r on the PRC's side.
    China eyes a strategic port in the Philippines
    Chinese companies look to win control of a bankrupt but strategic shipyard at Subic Bay, the ex-site of US military bases and a potential key outpost on the South China Sea
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:44 pm

    South China Sea on a precarious strategic edge
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:26 pm

    https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/china-deploys-advanced-anti-submarine-warfare-aircraft-to-south-china-sea-air-base/

    https://www.janes.com/article/89352/canada-japan-navies-enhance-interoperability-in-south-china-sea

    Europe is expanding its naval presence in the contested sea, adding legitimacy to US free navigation operations and affirming China’s anxieties of Western encirclement
    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/06/article/coalition-of-the-willing-builds-in-south-china-sea/


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:15 am

    Beijing strengthens its hold on South China Sea
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:04 am

    I find it amusing how the US and UK are warning everyone about the dangerous China and its evil machinations... like China would be worse than they are.... very unlikely...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:16 am

    Messing with the PRC SLOCs around SE Asia won't be easy now.
    This koan is applicable here: Who can remove a bell from a tiger's neck? A: only the 1 who put it there.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:04 am

    5 changes the Navy and Marine Corps can make to take on China

    I don't think it'll help them much: even if those SC Sea islands r taken, China can bombard them with BMs until they leave & then retake them.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:01 am

    Duterte delivers deathblow to US-Philippine ties by scrapping key bilateral security pact that US leverages to check China in SC Sea

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-philippines-alliance-dying-123841

    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3050833/ending-philippines-us-military-pact-will-affect-south-china-sea

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/world/asia/philippines-united-states-duterte.html

    I suspect that he plans to invite Russia to counterbalance China, if need be. Then it will be a more stable RF-Philippines-PRC triangle than previous Japan-Philippines-USA-Australia quad.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:13 am



    https://nypost.com/2020/04/08/us-blasts-china-for-unlawful-claims-in-south-china-sea/

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04/06/world/asia/ap-as-south-china-sea-watch.html

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/04/south-china-sea-whats-behind-china-vietnam-tensions-amid-covid-19/

    https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/natural-gas-discoveries-could-add-to-chinese-claims-in-south-china-sea/5352490.html


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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:28 pm

    The US blasts China for unlawful claims in the South China Sea... the title is amusing... if it is the south china sea don't they have a right to such claims... and coming from the US who has a might means right policy on international relations it is a bit hypocritical isn't it for them to object?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:52 pm

    Well, the Indochina peninsula isn't owned by India or China. Okino Tori Shima in the Philippine Sea belongs to Japan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinotorishima

    Likewise, only a few offshore islands+Nicobars in the Indian Ocean belong to India. So, geographical names alone can't be used to claim anything.
    Indeed, the US has a double standard- 1 they apply to themselves & the other to rest of the world- a superpower must have "super rights & privileges". After all, $ is the World's reserve currency & the UN is in NYC. They possess Guam, Hawaii, Alaska & lease bases in Greenland, Japan, Diego Garcia & Singapore to help police the oceans & bomb enemies.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:02 am

    A serial killer complaining because he thinks his neighbour might be beating his wife...

    A serial killer that has not been brought to justice because of his connections, thinks the world would be a better place if China lets the serial killer beat Chinas wife instead of China doing it.

    How can China not own islands it built itself?

    You listed several places the US has armed forces and you can bet the locals get no say in their presence in the region... and the lease if it exists is on American terms.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:23 am

    How can China not own islands it built itself?
    The US & others say they were reefs & shoals in disputed waters & China built them up illegally. From PRC's perspective, they belonged to them for a long time & her geoeconomic/political status entitles her to secure the SC Sea within the 9-dash line- a maritime equivalent of the Great Wall. With AD/AD there, it would be harder to aid Taiwan & Vietnam, not to mention to bomb the S. Chinese coast.
    Also their SSBN bastion is there- turning that sea to a strategic asset.

    Update: https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/china-lays-ever-larger-claim-to-south-china-sea/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=fdb7f68855-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_21_11_29&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-fdb7f68855-31607385&mc_cid=fdb7f68855&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/china-could-soon-sink-us-in-south-china-sea/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=e8a1a4b469-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_23_10_35&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-e8a1a4b469-31607385&mc_cid=e8a1a4b469&mc_eid=5455568640


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    Post  ultimatewarrior Sun May 03, 2020 6:52 am

    Are these artificial islands concrete or sand based?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri May 22, 2020 11:16 pm

    Probably corral sand &/ rocks.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1285288/South-china-sea-news-paracel-islands-Beijing-navy-crops-vegetables

    https://recordnews.uk/2020/06/04/south-china-sea-latest-beijings-plot-to-claim-contested-region-revealed-world-news/

    https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2020/07/11/13148959.shtml


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:06 am

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2020/07/17/china-sends-flanker-fighter-jets-to-south-china-sea-amid-tensions/#3c2f7e302f73

    They may deploy more fighters if need be-this may be an advance party.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:55 pm

    Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, said last week that the world would “not allow Beijing to treat the South China Sea as its maritime empire” and that the US would “stand with the international community in defence of freedom of the seas and respect for sovereignty” in the region. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/23/south-china-sea-australian-warships-encounter-chinese-navy-in-disputed-waters

    The US had the Philippines & still has Guam while maintaining defense ties with Taiwan next to the SC Sea, as well as the Caribbean Sea "maritime empire" around Puerto Rico & Panama it dominates. https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/china-bids-to-win-back-the-philippines/?mc_cid=ed3dfe2acf&mc_eid=5455568640

    Hawaii & Diego Garcia allows them to have "maritime empires" in the middle of the Pacific & Indian Oceans.


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