I see the jokes all the time Garry about Russian quality of their military.
And I see jokes about the Irish being drunks and getting into fights all the time and being lazy... sometimes that is true and sometimes it is not.
I suspect the people you hear the jokes from are fucking perfect and never make mistakes themselves... I don't like people who never make mistakes, because everyone makes mistakes... they are just pretending to be perfect.
They are liars... so what do you care what they think?
that is not the way you can send a message for Russia ,that is a capable nation.
If you have runways with holes , grass not cut , and facilities rusty and dirty , what kind of message you are sending?
Listen to yourself... runways with holes... uncut grass... god forbid they have unwashed dishes in their sink too from last night... how can they have invented the periodic table... how could they make weapons every bit as lethal as the ones the US make with their empty sinks and clean dishes in their cupboards where they are supposed to be...
It is very simple... you don't need to be some anal clean freak to be successful or capable.
Again.. this is not about REAL capabilities of the hardware.
But is all about Sales.. Russia will lose a lot of sales if they do not pay attention to
how they advertise their military hardware. and the quality controls they project.
Russia doesn't sell weapons to countries that care about image. Half the countries Russia sells to buy them because no one else will sell the same to them, half the countries buy Russian because they can't afford the same stuff from western sources, another half by Russian stuff because they are used to Soviet stuff and western stuff does not fit them, and another half buy from Russia because there are no strings attached and they can't get what they want from anyone else for any price.
Another half buy from Russia because they now know that when asked Russia is a country that can actually do more than just use a veto in the UN, or speak up to the US in a way no small country can.
What talks more than cut grass and painted buildings is polite professional men who can perform a very difficult task in the Crimea without bloodshed... even the much vaunted NATO soldiers are not that good at such semi policing roles as seen in various shall we say indiscretions and embarrassing incidents in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The professional actions in Syria has wowed the west where they did things only the US could do previously and from what I have seen done rather better than the US ever did in similar circumstances.
They don't have unlimited resources and money, so not cutting the grass at every single airfield is not only not a bad thing in my opinion... I actually think it is a good thing they are not wasting money and resources on cosmetic things when core things need funding first.
but notices Russian planes crash every week.. and the appearance and state of their facilities and quality controls on their industry looks very bad. then which plane you think they will buy in the end?
US planes actually crash rather more often, but that has no effect on sales. At the end they will buy the plane they were planning to buy in the first place before the testing and training and evaluation is complete.
[qutoe]hey will play the safer bet.. that is to buy European and american planes.. even if they are a bit less capable .. because at least they will have assurance the planes will work and the service to the planes and quality controls will be top class .[/quote]
Safer bet my ass. they will buy from the company that supplies the best hookers or has a NSA spying on all electronic transmissions that include video of married judges deciding which aircraft to buy with hookers. Or do you think they will buy what is best for their military... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
There is nothing more shameful for a politicians ,that the military hardware ,the millions he spend buying a tank or plane ,that they break withing a month. it could cost his position or major storm in the media by the opposition , if he waster hundreds of millions in things that do not work or have poor quality and breaks.
You are kidding right?
If there are problems with systems they don't usually appear for a 5 or 10 year period so you can guarantee you wont be in power when the faecal matter hits the blades. Blame someone else and hide where all the money went that went into your overseas accounts.
F-16s sells like hotcakes , and Saab Gripens steal the show of Su-35 sales..
and that should not be that way.. and the only reason i see it happens is because
American and Europeans do have a superior quality controls ,that Russia. yes the F-22
and F-35 have technology problems ,but those are design issues .not quality control problem.
F-16s are normally donated, or are a gift that cannot be refused... and must be paid for. After eastern europe joined NATO and the EU it would not matter what the planes Russia offered it was always going to be F-16s second hand because they can't afford anything better.
Russia is losing sales in miltary hardware for showing not a lot of care about the quality of its facilities or its military. and the record of Russia in airplane crashes is really bad. Worse than any other nation in the world. Americans have close to 10x times more combat planes than Russia. and do more flights than Russia in peace times ,and do not have as many accident as them. I live in the west and is rare to see news of an F-16 crashing or F-15 operated by americans in a non war zone. but Russia lose a mig or sukhjoi and all its pilots killed almost every month.. so quality controls of Russia are really bad. And by looking how much attention they give to its facilities is not surprising.
Post that evidence please.
BTW you are watching WESTERN NEWS. I was watching the homo news the other day and they said that a heterosexual lifestyle is harmful... I guess that must be true.
again im speaking about Marketing and sales and quality controls and presentation .that is modern facilities. not about military capabilities. If Russia had no plans to sell their sukhoi or migs ,then none of this matter. but they do..
If you are talking about sales and marketing and presentation then WTF does quality control have to do with it?
the soviet union thinking needs to end ,of if its works then is good enough. instead of the capitalism thinking that things needs to be perfect not only in functionality ,but also in quality.
Yeah... because a communist does not care about anyone but himself... he has no pride and just turns up to work... doesn't work very hard... and then goes home to things he doesn't deserve. An All American perfect prick on the other hand has to work 40 hours a day and he does it for his family and his country and for fucking apple pie. Everything must be perfect and he even cleans up afterwards so everything is neat and shiny... and that is how an American got into space first.
There was nothing wrong with Soviet quality control, and no I am not wasting my time watching your video... I have seen plenty of such videos in the past... like the poor innocent Afghans in the 1980s heroicly fighting off the Soviet horde on their own... they don't know what they will do with the peace they will have when the Soviets leave but they know things will be so much better.... this is some prick reporting for CNN news report.
Russia will have not a chance to sell sukhois or migs in the west ,if they do things in the soviet
WTF would Russia sell weapons to its enemies? I can guarantee the US would love to buy a battery of S-400 and S-500 SAMs... but only one battery. They could do with a long range SAM that actually did a good job and was not as expensive as the crap they have now.
other than very leftist nations that have no choice.
Leftist nations could easily buy from China.... and some do.
The performance of Russia military sales in latin america have been abysmal low ,and it is mostly because of the poor state of Russian defense industry. quality controls and their delays on delivering things fast and on time. this is called in the west Bad service and poor quality controls. Hopefully Russia will fix that.
What delays? What problems? Most countries who have problems with Russian deliveries are either under sanction or don't plan their spares support pool properly. If they don't want to spend money and buy a reserve of spare parts, and just want to save money and buy them when they need them then that is their problem... not Russias.
The biggest support problems occured with countries buying from third parties on the cheap. If you buy cheap aircraft from the stocks of an airforce that operates it but do not buy spares don't expect the maker of the aircraft to instantly sell you spare parts. If you don't buy a porche from a porche dealer don't expect mates rates on parts. If you spend a little extra and buy from the dealer and get a deal on future purchases on parts then you don't have those sorts of problems.