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Venezuela crisis
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Will usa be successful in installing it's puppet
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- [24%]
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- [76%]
Total Votes: 37
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miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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Join date : 2016-11-06
- Post n°851
Re: Venezuela crisis
The only thing that should be a lesson for all nations including Russia and Iran is: take control of your bank's, your resources and key industries. Outside interference won't be a problem then
kvs- Posts : 15144
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Join date : 2014-09-10
Location : Turdope's Kanada
- Post n°852
Re: Venezuela crisis
In case it is not clear, Citgo was not "profitable" in the normal sense before Chavez. It was pumping its profits to the USA. That
is not a company but a colonial foothold. Labour strife showed up at Citgo right on queue when the Chavez cut off the criminal
transfer pricing racket. So this strife is manipulation BS and not some genuine discontent. In fact, just like in the USA any
labour union in Venezuela would have been totally corrupt and beholden to the company owners. In the case of Citgo the real
owners were Americans even if it was supposed to be a Venezuelan company.
We also see that Goebbels's style lie repetition works. I recall a whole stream of NATzO fake stream media drivel pieces over
how Citgo was "run into the ground" by Chavez. That is cheesy lying at max. These "journalists" couldn't be bothered with
Citgo before Chavez and never gave any context. Just like all propaganda. If Citgo was "run into the ground" where
was all the money for Chavez's social programs coming from? I know, you will say inflation and money printing, BS. Inflation
was another NATzO propaganda talking point with routine claims that under Chavez it hit the stratosphere. More BS. It
was higher during the 1990s before Chavez. And inflation does not automatically imply money printing. Greed inflation is
real and more government spending can drive it up since the merchant parasites never miss an opportunity. Also, inflation
is always a problem in weak economies. This is true in Latin America, Russia and around the world. The problem cannot
be explained with sound bites and rinky dink fake stream media pieces.
is not a company but a colonial foothold. Labour strife showed up at Citgo right on queue when the Chavez cut off the criminal
transfer pricing racket. So this strife is manipulation BS and not some genuine discontent. In fact, just like in the USA any
labour union in Venezuela would have been totally corrupt and beholden to the company owners. In the case of Citgo the real
owners were Americans even if it was supposed to be a Venezuelan company.
We also see that Goebbels's style lie repetition works. I recall a whole stream of NATzO fake stream media drivel pieces over
how Citgo was "run into the ground" by Chavez. That is cheesy lying at max. These "journalists" couldn't be bothered with
Citgo before Chavez and never gave any context. Just like all propaganda. If Citgo was "run into the ground" where
was all the money for Chavez's social programs coming from? I know, you will say inflation and money printing, BS. Inflation
was another NATzO propaganda talking point with routine claims that under Chavez it hit the stratosphere. More BS. It
was higher during the 1990s before Chavez. And inflation does not automatically imply money printing. Greed inflation is
real and more government spending can drive it up since the merchant parasites never miss an opportunity. Also, inflation
is always a problem in weak economies. This is true in Latin America, Russia and around the world. The problem cannot
be explained with sound bites and rinky dink fake stream media pieces.
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franco- Posts : 6713
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- Post n°853
Re: Venezuela crisis
Camila
@camilateleSUR
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La Paz: Foreign Minister of Venezuela @jaarreaza
takes down the portrait of ventriloquist dummy Juan Guaido, replacing it with Simón Bolívar. A victory for our continent. @madeleintlSUR
@camilateleSUR
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6h
La Paz: Foreign Minister of Venezuela @jaarreaza
takes down the portrait of ventriloquist dummy Juan Guaido, replacing it with Simón Bolívar. A victory for our continent. @madeleintlSUR
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George1- Posts : 18327
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- Post n°854
Re: Venezuela crisis
First "Digital Currency Production Center" in the Venezuelan Armed Forces
The first "Center for the production of digital currency" (cryptocurrency mining) was opened at the location of the 61st Engineering Training Brigade of the 6th Engineering Corps of the Venezuelan Armed Forces in Fort Tiuna (Caracas).
The Venezuelan government has presented a bill expanding the use of cryptocurrencies in foreign and domestic trade. President Nicolas Maduro said in October 2019 that the country is using cryptocurrency to circumvent US sanctions. At the same time, information appeared that the Central Bank of Venezuela was preparing to add Bitcoin and Ethereum to the country's international reserves.
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2140758.html
The first "Center for the production of digital currency" (cryptocurrency mining) was opened at the location of the 61st Engineering Training Brigade of the 6th Engineering Corps of the Venezuelan Armed Forces in Fort Tiuna (Caracas).
The Venezuelan government has presented a bill expanding the use of cryptocurrencies in foreign and domestic trade. President Nicolas Maduro said in October 2019 that the country is using cryptocurrency to circumvent US sanctions. At the same time, information appeared that the Central Bank of Venezuela was preparing to add Bitcoin and Ethereum to the country's international reserves.
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2140758.html
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par far- Posts : 3488
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- Post n°855
Re: Venezuela crisis
George1 wrote:First "Digital Currency Production Center" in the Venezuelan Armed Forces
The first "Center for the production of digital currency" (cryptocurrency mining) was opened at the location of the 61st Engineering Training Brigade of the 6th Engineering Corps of the Venezuelan Armed Forces in Fort Tiuna (Caracas).
The Venezuelan government has presented a bill expanding the use of cryptocurrencies in foreign and domestic trade. President Nicolas Maduro said in October 2019 that the country is using cryptocurrency to circumvent US sanctions. At the same time, information appeared that the Central Bank of Venezuela was preparing to add Bitcoin and Ethereum to the country's international reserves.
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2140758.html
I wonder how big of a role China played in this? China is buying oil from Venezuela at a steady pace and when this whole pandemic ends, China might start even buying more.
Kiko- Posts : 2848
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- Post n°856
Re: Venezuela crisis
As Venezuela's parliamentary elections are fast approaching:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/508611-opposition-venezuela-elections-parliamentary/
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/508611-opposition-venezuela-elections-parliamentary/
Kiko- Posts : 2848
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- Post n°857
Re: Venezuela crisis
From Spain, where he's exiled, Venezuela's opposition figure Leopoldo López turned on wide open the fan today stating that President Maduro will fraud tomorrow's parliamentary elections. Apart from Russia, China and Iran, he criticized both Argentina and Mexico for their support to Caracas.
Last edited by Kiko on Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:03 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Correct typos.)
kvs- Posts : 15144
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- Post n°858
Re: Venezuela crisis
Kiko wrote:From Spain, where he's exiled, Venezuela's opposition figure Leopoldo López turned on wide open the fan today stating that President Maduro will fraud tomorrow's parliamentary elections. Apart from Russia, China and Iran, he criticized both Argentina and Mexico for their support to Caracas.
Spain still has a Franco problem. Its attempt to patronize Latin America is pathetic.
franco- Posts : 6713
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- Post n°859
Re: Venezuela crisis
There is no reason to blame this on me
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kvs- Posts : 15144
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- Post n°860
Re: Venezuela crisis
franco wrote:There is no reason to blame this on me
Seriously, WTF with these non sequitur "offense taking" posts from people.
Ever hear of this clown:
The reference in my post was 100% clear.
Hole- Posts : 10781
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- Post n°861
Re: Venezuela crisis
He made a joke.
Lopez is not in exile, he fled from Venezuela.
Lopez is not in exile, he fled from Venezuela.
kvs- Posts : 15144
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- Post n°862
Re: Venezuela crisis
Hole wrote:He made a joke.
Lopez is not in exile, he fled from Venezuela.
It was impossible to determine that it was joke from his post. He could have chosen another smiley.
Exile or fled is not a point that the western propaganda machine will care about. He will be treated
as a dissident voice of the people. The same shtick as with all the Ukr Nazis who ran to the west
after WWII being succored as the heart of Ukraine. This clearly worked to regime change Ukraine
into Banderastan.
Kiko- Posts : 2848
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- Post n°863
Re: Venezuela crisis
@Hole:
You're right. López fled from Venezuela where he was staying at the Spanish Embassy under protection from Spain's government. In Venezuela he was a jail-break fugitive running from the authorities under several conspiracy and sedition charges.
You're right. López fled from Venezuela where he was staying at the Spanish Embassy under protection from Spain's government. In Venezuela he was a jail-break fugitive running from the authorities under several conspiracy and sedition charges.
franco- Posts : 6713
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- Post n°864
Re: Venezuela crisis
kvs wrote:Hole wrote:He made a joke.
Lopez is not in exile, he fled from Venezuela.
It was impossible to determine that it was joke from his post. He could have chosen another smiley.
Exile or fled is not a point that the western propaganda machine will care about. He will be treated
as a dissident voice of the people. The same shtick as with all the Ukr Nazis who ran to the west
after WWII being succored as the heart of Ukraine. This clearly worked to regime change Ukraine
into Banderastan.
Agreed there definitely should be a "sarcasm" emoticon
Was it not Lopez who the Americans wanted for stealing money from them or drug running or something similar?
Kiko- Posts : 2848
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- Post n°865
Re: Venezuela crisis
As Venezuela President is set to likely regain control of his country’s National Assembly, US Secretary of State blasted the vote “not an election” and a “sham” despite his own administration still contesting results at home:
https://www.rt.com/news/508853-mike-pompeo-maduro-venezuela/
https://www.rt.com/news/508853-mike-pompeo-maduro-venezuela/
kvs- Posts : 15144
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- Post n°866
Re: Venezuela crisis
I am not familiar with the background of Lopez but it would be almost predictable for him to be a crook. US soft power assets
around the world tend to be criminals of the regular sort such as Navalny, who is a grifter.
As for Pompous Ass Pompeo "blasting" anything, well that is just the usual doubling down of liars. American exceptionalism
is a type of retardation. If they have rotten "elections", well, then, in other countries it must be worse. When Americans
eat shit, they think that everywhere else people eat more shittier shit.
around the world tend to be criminals of the regular sort such as Navalny, who is a grifter.
As for Pompous Ass Pompeo "blasting" anything, well that is just the usual doubling down of liars. American exceptionalism
is a type of retardation. If they have rotten "elections", well, then, in other countries it must be worse. When Americans
eat shit, they think that everywhere else people eat more shittier shit.
GarryB- Posts : 39071
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- Post n°867
Re: Venezuela crisis
Which raises the question how a real criminal in Venezuela can hide out in Spains embassy but then escape the country to get to Spain... why didn't Assange do what they did?
kvs- Posts : 15144
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- Post n°868
Re: Venezuela crisis
GarryB wrote:Which raises the question how a real criminal in Venezuela can hide out in Spains embassy but then escape the country to get to Spain... why didn't Assange do what they did?
This one fact shows us how rotten modern civilization is. One rule for elite-associated crooks and another rule for any dissidents or
whistle-blowers.
Venezuela respects diplomatic immunity, the UK does not. Clearly any move by Venezuela to arrest Lopez and as the Spanish
diplomats transported him to Spain would be a violation of diplomatic immunity. It is the same double standard for the rich and powerful
and those who are not.
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Kiko- Posts : 2848
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- Post n°869
Re: Venezuela crisis
Alliance of Venezuela's Government parties obtains majority in Parliament with 67,6%:
https://mundo.sputniknews.com/america-latina/202012071093746935-alianza-de-partidos-del-gobierno-venezolano-obtiene-mayoria-en-el-parlamento-con-676/
https://mundo.sputniknews.com/america-latina/202012071093746935-alianza-de-partidos-del-gobierno-venezolano-obtiene-mayoria-en-el-parlamento-con-676/
Kiko- Posts : 2848
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- Post n°870
Re: Venezuela crisis
Iran sends largest ever fleet of oil tankers to Venezuela, thus defying US sanctions:
https://www.rt.com/business/508871-iran-oil-venezuela-us-sanctions/
https://www.rt.com/business/508871-iran-oil-venezuela-us-sanctions/
PhSt- Posts : 1206
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- Post n°871
Re: Venezuela crisis
In August, the US captured four Iranian cargo vessels on the high seas, taking hold of several fuel tankers on their way to Venezuela.
So what happened to these captured cargo vessels? where are they now? Weren't there any condemnation to this brazen act of piracy? Maybe Iran can send decoy cargo vessels loaded with bombs so when Americunts seize them again they are in for a surprise
kvs- Posts : 15144
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- Post n°872
Re: Venezuela crisis
Kiko wrote:Alliance of Venezuela's Government parties obtains majority in Parliament with 67,6%:
https://mundo.sputniknews.com/america-latina/202012071093746935-alianza-de-partidos-del-gobierno-venezolano-obtiene-mayoria-en-el-parlamento-con-676/
Note the propaganda language used by Sputnik. "Government parties" like "pro-Kremlin parties". So what is normal in the west
is labelled as abnormal for Russia and Venezuela. Lunatic fringe "parties" do not count in the west. They do not even get any
MSM coverage giving the impression that they do not exist.
JohninMK- Posts : 14751
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- Post n°873
Re: Venezuela crisis
PhSt wrote:In August, the US captured four Iranian cargo vessels on the high seas, taking hold of several fuel tankers on their way to Venezuela.
So what happened to these captured cargo vessels? where are they now? Weren't there any condemnation to this brazen act of piracy? Maybe Iran can send decoy cargo vessels loaded with bombs so when Americunts seize them again they are in for a surprise
The three small tankers the US pirates seized upon the high seas were not actually owned by Iran, just their cargoes. Don't know what happened to the tankers but the cargoes were sold 2-3 weeks ago and the money put in some kind of anti Iran account in New York.
The earlier four tankers, twice the size, that made it through were Iran owned as I suspect these are. This is deliberate by the Iranians, more risky to seize than Liberian or Panamanian tankers, as no doubt is the timing, when Washington has other things on its mind. There must be a good chance that there will be Iranian Marines on some if not all these ships this time. Attacking an unarmed tanker is one thing but if it has ATGM, as AShM, and MANPADs on board that's quite a different proposition.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°874
Re: Venezuela crisis
wow, stole Irans cargo and sold it to fund anti iran crap.
That is really piracy. Holy shit the US is a terrible country. Funny how even the people in the US think they have some kind of moral superiority too.
That is really piracy. Holy shit the US is a terrible country. Funny how even the people in the US think they have some kind of moral superiority too.
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- Post n°875
Re: Venezuela crisis
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