The Situation in the Ukraine. #11

Werewolf wrote:Not so great to make races with armour.

awesome that perfectly summarises the train-wreck of the Ukie-nazi experiment. What a fiasco...

BMP-2 is a funky vehicle... If i'd want one armoured tracked vehicle it'd be that, enough room to take the familly to the countryside, a nice multipurpose armament, acrobatic mobility, decent top speed, and a divine look...


the guy screaming "SUKA BLIAD" really had his jimmies rustled

The European Union is announcing plans which aims at the creation of a united army..

Either this is a major slap in the face of USA .. after the American Neoliberal Pig NATO commander american General Philip Breedlove declarations of seeking to militarize eastern Europe or is a new plan of US gov to implement its missile defense shield at Russian borders under the name not of NATO but of Europe Army's...

Albeit the European Union is claiming is to defend against Russia.. It looks kind of odd..
since already NATO exist for that. UK and France have second thoughts that it could undermine
the role of NATO...

Thing to remember that the commander of this new European army  might not not receive orders from the NATO commander. And really become an independent General from US NATO.

This move is fully backed by Germany.. who just recently called NATO general commander
his declarations as dangerous propaganda. .

And army that Europeans states can potentially fully control? and potentially
US and UK will not have a say on it?  

If anyone have doubts there is a major split between Europe major powers and US-UK- and Neoliberals elite . What is very interesting.. is that Putin already proposed before that
he will not oppose to a NATO force in europe without US and UK on board. means without
US miltiary bases in europe.

Whats the big deal about this little difference of NATO without US and UK.. ?
and fully controlled by Europe.. Is that US can no longer use its Army as the last
line of pressure to any political leader in Europe.  ie.. imagine you are a President
of any country in Europe.. and that you want to condemn Obama or Bush for anything..
but that at the same time your country is full of American-british military bases with combat
jets armed with precision bombs that can fly at any time near the presidential palace?

Germany is under an occupation today by US military bases.. and it will be easy for americans
to get rid of any Leader in germany with a small tactical tiny bomb if he oppose the US Global
Empire and choose to become Independent.  Same with Italy ..and other European nations..

The possibility of US pentagon removing a european leader by military means ,when coups and
revolutions fails.. is not out of the question.. This have happened before in Central America..
that the president split from US Gov policies.. and withing weeks or months.. the same US military bases that is supposed to protect the country ,is used to remove their leader..

Just like Russia did on Crimea.. that took it without a fight..  thats what Americans can do.. in any part of Europe.. they have military bases. But with the major difference of the US military bases not being welcome there by civilians. So this is the major danger or European nations
with US military bases.. that they can be used to keep in check ,any politicians who dares to oppose TR1's lovely "freedom nation".

So in Summary.. my theory there is a  big possibility  we are witnessing a major BIG movement in Europe for independence of US. to protect against USA military bases presence there which by far pose the major threat to them..far more than Russia. Because Russia is not seeking to build a world empire or invade Europe.. in 50 years they have not done it.. not even interested to have eastern Ukraine as part of Russia federation and later have to feed them and pay their energy bills..  But in the other side is clear for anyone with a brain
that USA is seeking to become the world police and the only voice telling every other nation how they leaders should live their lives ,what laws to pass ,how and when. ie.. a puppet.

Despite their wording that they say is "against Russia" ? when such a force is not needed at all.
if you have NATO.. it could very well being a major change in European policy ,towards their
Independence..  IF they setup military bases .. lets say EU army bases.. in same nations that US/NATO occupy.. that same European army could be used to keep in check.. the US gov and their military bases.  

It is clear for any political advisor you can name , not zionist , have told that US profit from wars ,as they did in world war 2, A is not interested in peace in Ukraine..but instead they want to provoke a major war there of Russia vs  Europe with them supplying the weapons. and completely isolate Russia Economy from Europe. And use the war ,the killing of Russian soldiers and the bankrupt economy , to provoke unrest in Russia and remove Putin/Medvedev from power and get an euromaidan in Moscow too.

Even though Europe told is "Against RUssia" they also mention this interesting things.

added the EU’s image "has suffered dramatically and also in terms of foreign policy, we don't seem to be taken entirely seriously. "

"A joint EU army would show the world that there would never again be a war between EU countries," Juncker said.

European Commission chief urges ‘joint EU army,’ Germany backs decision


http://rt.com/news/238797-eu-joint-army-threat/

Let me give you some hints..
1)Europe interest is their economy.. they don't want their economy to suffer.. which is what
US sanctions on Russia is provoking..
2)They dont want Ukraine to blockade the transit of Gas to Europe..
3)They don't want war in europe under any case , no matter what...
4)They want their privacy respected.. no spying on them.. from so called US allies.
5)Most of Europe opposed the no fly zone over Syria.. even by surprise UK too.. and
F-15E/TR1's lovely "Freedom" nation was isolated there too..
6) They also want the territorial integrity of nations respected.. but here some few Europeans
Nations have told they understand why Russia did it.. and justified it..

From those four points.. Russia only affected the last one .. and USA the first 5 points .

So the question is.. who is not taking European foreign policy seriously? Russia or USA ?  

Is too early to celebrate however.. European Independence.. this new "europe army" could be hijacked at any time.. by the american-british-jews elite powers.. but i cannot imagine of any other way of Europe to start gaining its independence from US.. if they do not first start creating their own army. What makes me think.. this new proposition is aimed at USA... is..

1)Putin not opposing to a NATO exclusively of Europeans.. without the US.
2)US pushing to create a war between Europe and Russia and split them..
3) the Germany condemnation of breedlove Dangerous propaganda.
4)Fuck the EU.. of NUland..  
5)The NSA spying of Merkel and europe
6) Merkel in serious disagreement with Obama of the way to proceed in Ukraine..
7) Germany and France visit Russia ,for preparations of minsk 2 agreement the same day Kerry visit without Ukraine.
8)Merkel statements that the security of Europe cannot go against Russia..
9)The proposition of a Free trade of Germany and France from Portugal to vladivostok.

Obviously all those things are slap in the face of the americans Neoliberals EGO.. who wants
to see an isolated Russia from Europe.

So pretty much looks like a major movement is already set in motion.. and is not exactly
for US interest.. but for European ones.. since like Europe high ranked officials told....
- we don't seem to be taken entirely seriously  
- A joint EU army would show the world that there would never again be a war between EU countries.

So obviously Europe ,most of it.. (minus the Fascist states.. of baltic and poland..) do not want
any war with Russia.. and this military block the aim to create is to stop that.. and to defend their nation interest.

So if you ask me.. this could very well mean the first major important step of the end of NATO and US "exceptionalism". but is too early to celebrate for now.  What is clear however.. for me..
is that the day Europe and RUssia become very close.. it will be the end of NATO and of US empire.

It sounds to me like they're trying to breathe new life into NATO. Many European countries are lagging behind militarily, and need to be rallied.

There simply hasn't been enough "change" in Europe for this to be anything else. Perhaps a decade from now it will be different, but for now, it's the same shits in charge of the EU.

Here is what Pravy Sektor made on Xmas, surprised no one else has seen something like this.

Werewolf wrote:Not so great to make races with armour.

The driver of that car was lucky, the passengers on the BMP, not so much.

Ever wonder why when there's a perceived foreign threat, almost none of the talking heads ever diverge from beating the drums of war? Freedom of Press...

higurashihougi wrote:Not really relevant but Czech President will come to Moskva for the celebration of May 9.

       

http://tass.ru/en/world/781723

"My absence from the ceremonies in Moscow would insult the memory of the 150,000 Soviet soldiers, who gave their lives for the liberation of Czechoslovakia," Zeman said. He dismissed demands by his political opponents to refrain from going to Russia over the conflict in the southeast of Ukraine.

He just wants an excuse to see Armata.

Zivo wrote:It sounds to me like they're trying to breathe new life into NATO. Many European countries are lagging behind militarily, and need to be rallied.

There simply hasn't been enough "change" in Europe for this to be anything else. Perhaps a decade from now it will be different, but for now, it's the same shits in charge of the EU.

It could be.. too..
Just i'm for the first time a little optimistic about world events..
And this new Minsk-2 peace agreement is against the White House interest of
militarization of Ukraine and start a long proxy war against Russia there.. with
many thousands civilians killed.

Im actually   surprised .. almost amazed.. why Russia have not been pushed to invade
Ukraine. Because for the White House ,that will be very easy to do... all they need is to hire
enough right sector criminals and others ultranationalist.. literary take them from Ukrainian Jails,
and start an ethnic cleansing of Ethnic Russians of thousands..and all done right at the border of Russia.. in the cities of Ukraine closer to  Russia that still kiev controls.. ie.. Kharkiv for example.. To provoke Russia .  US/Canada/Poland  and baltic States can provide for example long range artillery or even Rail Guns.. to the Aidar ultra radical batallion and ask them to bomb crimea.. non stop day after day.. (just to push Russia to invade).. and Such tactics.. will be impossible for Russia to stop.. unless they officially invade Ukraine to take away their lethal weapons.

All said , i believe that for the only reason , the US government have not done any of that . had to be for  sure for the big pressure of Europe .. Because there is no possible explanation.. for the pentagon will have been very easy to supply more Lethal weapons.. like tomahawks cruise missiles that can reach moscow from ukraine ,just to provoke Russia to invade or long range artillery 70km+ to bomb Crimea every day.. and later claim .. it was Russia who bombed themselves.

The lethal weapons aim will not be to win wars.. but to annoy Russia a lot and force them to invade.. Even NATO commander , the minion told recently.. as pretext for arming Ukraine..
that it was not to win a war against Russia but to make it costly for them to continue supporting
the Rebels.. So right there from the mouth of NATO commander.. they not even deny their goal
of lethal weapons to Ukraine.. to make it costly for Russia.

Costly for what?

1)They want to use the Ukraine conflict to isolate Russia from Europe..
the anglozionist powers do not want Europe to get close to Russia.. they fear that their
colonies will Rebel and become fully independent.
2) they want to provoke Russia to invade Ukraine and never leave.. keep killing
Russians to maintain Russia invasion permanently..
3)they want to see Russian death soldiers
4)and they want to provoke unrest in Russia thanks to the war they provoke..

But unfortunately for them Putin knows all this.. their games in Ukraine.. Lavrov himself have told..that they use ukraine as pretext.. for sanctions on Russia and had nothing happened in Ukraine they will use something else as excuse. Putin is aware ,that US-UK aim ,is exclusively their sabotage of their economy and the the damage to their world image.. and the provoking of civilian unrest in Russia because of the war..  

So this is why is extremely important for Putin and Russia federation ,public opinion.
They need to educate their citizens.. the faster the better of what is really happening in Ukraine
and how the west is only using Ukraine as a tool to weaken Russia development and progress
and divide its society ,split it completely and provoke Unrest and divide its territory as they already did with the soviet union.

They want an euromaidan in Moscow and the only way they see it happening is provoking
another afgan war to Russia.. one that will seriously damage Russian economy and end
the popularity of Putin and Medvedev. and even make more easier for them to provoke a
civil war..

How dangerous can be the events in Ukraine ? it could trigger a world war.. if the white house
and Republicans allowed to do what they want there. Russia will be forced to supply nukes to Cuba and also if forced to invade Ukraine..Putin can declare a no fly zone over its airspace and order the shot down of any NATO plane flying there.

it will be a real war , far beyond COld War between US and Russia.. and albeit not nuclear ,but
it will not be far from there to go into a major nuclear conflict.. if Europe do nothing and allows
US gov to get their proxy war in Ukraine.. They can use Saudi Arabia or Israel or any other terrorist state to supply the american lethal weapons to Ukraine.. and later claim they have no control over their actions. That they have nothing to do with it.  

What we witness is USA attempts to not only isolate Russia ECONOMY from the world
at the likes of North Korea or IRAN.. to slow their military dramatic progress ..ie.. less Submarines.. and warships and planes.. While at the same time trying to provoking a long
proxy world war between Europe and Russia over Ukraine. While at the same time making
profits from selling weapons to their allies.  Is purely evil the intentions of the white house..
But i see some hope .. of nothing of this happening thanks to some rationality left in Influential powers in Europe.

Not really relevant but Czech President will come to Moskva for the celebration of May 9.

Yeah.. indeed a major slap in the face of the white house.. It will be nicer and more dramatic ,
if mayor european nations leaders visit the parade.. to send a signal to US and UK that Russia will not be isolated from Europe.  

And here some under rated program.. always refreshing how they discuss the events
of Ukraine and tensions between west and Russia.



I didn't knew how much of a western troll was Nemtsov .. apparently he was 100% anti Putin..
Supported kiev euromaidan , rejected the Crimea unification and blamed the rebels for the downing of the M-17 plane.. he was a real fraud.. no question about that. And had to be financed big time with prostitutes and money for his Public relations in support of the western
policies.

Zivo wrote:

Werewolf wrote:Not so great to make races with armour.

The driver of that car was lucky, the passengers on the BMP, not so much.

stupid really, would it really hurt to slow down just a bit when approaching traffic. by the speed theyre going at you would think they were escaping a grad barrage raking everything they pass through just a few moments later.

Speaking about frauds.. i have been saying since day 1 , that snowden was a fraud..
It all looked staged.. how the US stopped Snowden planes from leaving Russia..
all they had to do to capture Snowden was to allow his plane to enter Europe.. but
of course that will have not made possible the counter intelligence deception to work..

Basically Snowden job was to promote Guardian and other so called "leftist " infiltrated media
by the Neocons western elite . They first create their fame  , by telling meaningless truths ,that
everyone knows or guess.. ie.. US spy on everyone.  But on the critical issues..  Snowden
goes and lies.. Just like Julian Assange (another fraud) he did not pass the 9/11 test.. and goes
with the story of government "incompetence" , instead of the government inside job.  Just like Julian Assange.. Snowden had every month or week  " New revelations " to make in the world..
Snownen was obviously a fake.. and he tried to become as popular as possible.. to make
his stories as "Credible as possible".    The trick is.. that Russia could not kick Snowden from
Russia ,because that will send a bad signal to potential , real defectors of the west to enter
In Russia.. so it was a damned if you do and damned if you not.  Snowden is a fraud.. a CIA
counter intelligence misleading clown.. and now the RUssian FSB confirms this..  

Document was a 'test' of both Snowden and Assange, helping provide final proof both Snowden and Assange are active CIA agents and frauds.
On surface level, the document offers tools necessary for Snowden to become free to travel internationally, and for Assange to be free from his situation in London's Ecuadorean Embassy. Both Snowden and Assange refused the assistance, and instead escalated lying praise for their CIA media partners, despite clearly knowing their Guardian & NY Times were helping to defame, censor and murder real US dissidents.

http://homment.com/3K3xdsYD7a

The Guardian.,VICE , Young Turks ,Stratford ,democracy Now..are just few examples of the undercover Neocons ,neoliberals western elite media.. US/UK operatives
to deceive the public opinion.. with media or journalist that create a circus making it look
they are "Defectors" and chased by the government.

Real Whistle Blowers.. are the ones largely Ignored by all Pro US/NATO story telling
popular media..

This is why is funny and quite EASY and Predictable.. to spot fake defectors or whistleblowers
from a mile away..  If they are promoted by Jewish media.. they are fake. If they are ignored
they are real.

Want to know a women largely ignored ,and labeled as crazy and disconnected of his mind nut
by US media? and that all Guardian , VICE , Democracy Now never interview?



She told that she directly is aware that the BUsh Administration ..all the way to george Bush..
and the CIA all knew MONTHS BEFORE 9/11.. that a major terrorist attack will happen
in the world trade center using civilian airliners .   And that they did nothing to stop it..
they allowed it to happen. That she was warned of not taking a plane towards New York.. just weeks before 9/11    and that she tried without success to warn everyone of a terrorist
attack using planes..

She also rightly concluded.. that the Plane attacks were all an inside Job.. because the government Knew before hand of how civilians airlines planes will be used as missiles against the WTC and they did nothing to stop it.. which they could easily do.. by raising the security of airports , adding undercover security inside planes in every flight.. protecting the pilots cabin from unauthorized entry which they didn't do.. or anti air defenses in the towers..

She was one of the few americans arrested under the patriot act.. Her conclusions is based on the fact.. that she was arrested for trying to warn US senators of a terrorist attack in WTC.
They simply wanted her to keep mouth shot ,and he was not killed because she had powerful family members..  She personally warned her cousin Andrew Card, who was Chief of Staff for President GW Bush in 2001, of the coming destruction of the Towers. She tried to speak up after 911. She offered to testify about pre-911 intelligence, peace offers and negotiations. She called the offices of John McCain and Trent Lott because they were Senate gatekeepers. Thirty days after contacting the Senate she was arrested under the Patriot Act in March of 2004.

SNowden is fully covered by all US and NATO pro media.... but her story is fulling ignored..
That lovely lady.. have become a real pain in the ass of the US administration.. because her
testimony is not ambiguous.. but comes full of names and dates.. and she can proof she was arrested under patriot act.. accused of being an Foreign spy.  

The more she did to warn the US government , and Senate about the imminent attacks of the WTC with planes.. to increase the security the more they lowered it..  By "coincidence" the same
day of the terrorist attacks.. all airforce combat planes were moved to a farther military base ,leaving the entire white house ,pentagon and WTC without protection its airspace.. from its nearest airforce miltiary bases.. how convenient. It was all setup and framed ..to use the attack
on WTC.. as pretext for Middle east invasions.. for changing any government from power in the middle east who refused to help US Global ambitions and become a puppet. Syria was in line
to be next after US IRAQ invasion under bush.. but the delay of the IRAQ war and the strong anti US insurgency made it impossible to move to another war..

Btw, about those VDV (IIRC) soldiers that were captured - I think almost a year ago -  in Ukraine... Were they really Russian? Any... in any way objective info? Or was it just a propaganda stunt? How about the dead Russian soldiers that were said to be fighting in Ukraine against their will? Their deaths were supposedly covered up by the Russian government?

If it was covered up, how would anyone know? Funny stuff really.

No one would send anyone against their will.
And those paratroopers were most likely advisers.

Everyones chess champion fav Kasparov stated Russia will only be free through a violent uprising. Hahahahahahah.

He should stick to chess. Apparently in 91 he got some award from US neocons.... exiled and still so called caring? Yeah right. If he cared, he wouldnt talk about violent uprising.

Regular wrote:No one would send anyone against their will.
And those paratroopers were most likely advisers.

They looked too young to be advisors..

My take was.. that they were kidnapped in an ambush from a patrol of Russian border..
and lured into coming close enough to be captured .by Ukraine/CIA operation.probably inside RUssia territory. and arrested and taken inside Ukraine as "proof" of RUssian invasion.

the fact that they did not resisted.. the arrest and none killed , ie.. kiev never showed death RUssian soldiers.. videos.. shows indeed they were caught by surprise.. that they were not in
need to fight to escape or to fight since they weren't doing anything wrong.

My comment on Kasparov article at RI:
RI Article: Kasparov Expects Violent Uprising in Russia

This is pretty funny. Because the blatancy of how undemocratic these people are, yet they try to champion themselves as democratic, all in the same paragraphs. Simply put, if 1 man is not elected due to his unpopularity, but thinks he should be in power, does he have a right to overthrow someone who has the average vote for? Of course not, cause that would NOT be democratic. So in Russia, there are various parties (16. More than in US or Canada) and only two parties get majority: United Russia and Communist party, where the communists have 16% of the votes. If these people want to win votes, why not actually be productive? Why not actually run and develop a proper party that actually does well in serving the people? Run as mayor or as head of a state in Russia, and prove you can do it, then continue on. Instead of looking for foreign money and groveling to the US senators who want control of Russia's resources and or various regions to split the country up, do well for yourself and your people.

Does people like Kasparov or Nemtsov actually view themselves as likeable? It appeared that in most Russian sites where commentators goes, most people were quite happy of his death, saying how the people who shot him are hero's. Clearly, these people are not liked in Russia, so what gives them the right to say how their countries leader should be overthrown? Not only is that undemocratic, but it goes contrary what the United States says a country should be. They always love to talk about spreading democracy. So how is that democratic? How is it democratic that any party that does not tow the line in Ukraine, ends up banned, their head either goes missing or thrown into a garbage bin? None of that is democratic yet they love to talk about how it is.

There is something really wrong with western society today. There is something even more wrong when people cannot spot the hypocrisy in a single article. It is right there in front of them, yet they ignore it. And this is why Russians will hate us, and I for one cannot blame them, as I am really starting to hate us too. The western media throws all these accusations at Putin that have no backings whatsoever. Russian troops in Ukraine? No evidence of it nor did they provide any. We just need to trust them. Russia shot down MH-17? No evidence that they did and all photos were grainy and could be tractors for all we know, and they didn't release the recordings just yet, while they all pointed their fingers at Putin and Russia. So we are to believe them? Now a 5th columnist who was known to walking in and out of a US embassy time and time again, as well as known he was funded by groups like Ford Foundation, George Soros and USAid (who was caught way before hand for funding opposition parties in various countries), gets whacked and before the investigation is officially over (actually, when it happened on the same day as the death), all fingers pointed at Putin (even if it makes no sense because Nemtsov was a nobody from a party that had no popularity at all, and even the "funeral" march was a pathetic showcase with a turnout of 20,000~ turnout of a city of 12 million....

What sickens me is that there are people who actually believe the BS coming from our media regarding it. And even are supporting people like Kasparov and others (others being actual criminals in the 90's), while these people call for violence in the country (so in otherwords, bloodshed) of their own people. This tells me they are definitely not representatives of their own people and don't actually care about anything other than obtaining power.

Vann7 wrote:Speaking about frauds.. i have been saying since day 1 , that snowden was a fraud..
It all looked staged.. how the US stopped Snowden planes from leaving Russia..
all they had to do to capture Snowden was to allow his plane to enter Europe.. but
of course that will have not made possible the counter intelligence deception to work..

Basically Snowden job was to promote Guardian and other so called "leftist " infiltrated media
by the Neocons western elite . They first create their fame  , by telling meaningless truths ,that
everyone knows or guess.. ie.. US spy on everyone.  But on the critical issues..  Snowden
goes and lies.. Just like Julian Assange (another fraud) he did not pass the 9/11 test.. and goes
with the story of government "incompetence" , instead of the government inside job.  Just like Julian Assange.. Snowden had every month or week  " New revelations " to make in the world..
Snownen was obviously a fake.. and he tried to become as popular as possible.. to make
his stories as "Credible as possible".    The trick is.. that Russia could not kick Snowden from
Russia ,because that will send a bad signal to potential , real defectors of the west to enter
In Russia.. so it was a damned if you do and damned if you not.  Snowden is a fraud.. a CIA
counter intelligence misleading clown.. and now the RUssian FSB confirms this..  

Document was a 'test' of both Snowden and Assange, helping provide final proof both Snowden and Assange are active CIA agents and frauds.
On surface level, the document offers tools necessary for Snowden to become free to travel internationally, and for Assange to be free from his situation in London's Ecuadorean Embassy. Both Snowden and Assange refused the assistance, and instead escalated lying praise for their CIA media partners, despite clearly knowing their Guardian & NY Times were helping to defame, censor and murder real US dissidents.

http://homment.com/3K3xdsYD7a

The Guardian.,VICE , Young Turks ,Stratford ,democracy Now..are just few examples of the undercover Neocons ,neoliberals western elite media.. US/UK operatives
to deceive the public opinion.. with media or journalist that create a circus making it look
they are "Defectors" and chased by the government.

Real Whistle Blowers.. are the ones largely Ignored by all Pro US/NATO story telling
popular media..

This is why is funny and quite EASY and Predictable.. to spot fake defectors or whistleblowers
from a mile away..  If they are promoted by Jewish media.. they are fake. If they are ignored
they are real.

Want to know a women largely ignored ,and labeled as crazy and disconnected of his mind nut
by US media? and that all Guardian , VICE , Democracy Now never interview?



She told that she directly is aware that the BUsh Administration ..all the way to george Bush..
and the CIA all knew MONTHS BEFORE 9/11.. that a major terrorist attack will happen
in the world trade center using civilian airliners .   And that they did nothing to stop it..
they allowed it to happen. That she was warned of not taking a plane towards New York.. just weeks before 9/11    and that she tried without success to warn everyone of a terrorist
attack using planes..

She also rightly concluded.. that the Plane attacks were all an inside Job.. because the government Knew before hand of how civilians airlines planes will be used as missiles against the WTC and they did nothing to stop it.. which they could easily do.. by raising the security of airports , adding undercover security inside planes in every flight.. protecting the pilots cabin from unauthorized entry which they didn't do.. or anti air defenses in the towers..

She was one of the few americans arrested under the patriot act.. Her conclusions is based on the fact.. that she was arrested for trying to warn US senators of a terrorist attack in WTC.
They simply wanted her to keep mouth shot ,and he was not killed because she had powerful family members..  She personally warned her cousin Andrew Card, who was Chief of Staff for President GW Bush in 2001, of the coming destruction of the Towers. She tried to speak up after 911. She offered to testify about pre-911 intelligence, peace offers and negotiations. She called the offices of John McCain and Trent Lott because they were Senate gatekeepers. Thirty days after contacting the Senate she was arrested under the Patriot Act in March of 2004.

SNowden is fully covered by all US and NATO pro media.... but her story is fulling ignored..
That lovely lady.. have become a real pain in the ass of the US administration.. because her
testimony is not ambiguous.. but comes full of names and dates.. and she can proof she was arrested under patriot act.. accused of being an Foreign spy.  

The more she did to warn the US government , and Senate about the imminent attacks of the WTC with planes.. to increase the security the more they lowered it..  By "coincidence" the same
day of the terrorist attacks.. all airforce combat planes were moved to a farther military base ,leaving the entire white house ,pentagon and WTC without protection its airspace.. from its nearest airforce miltiary bases.. how convenient. It was all setup and framed ..to use the attack
on WTC.. as pretext for Middle east invasions.. for changing any government from power in the middle east who refused to help US Global ambitions and become a puppet.   Syria was in line
to be next after US IRAQ invasion under bush.. but the delay of the IRAQ war and the strong anti US insurgency made it impossible to move to another war..

I didn't know anything about her ,thanx Vann.

Good article in the graun, reviewing a new book by Richard Sakwa regarding the underlying causes of the Ukraine crisis. It sounds to be a well-balanced work, which means that the Imperial Gatekeepers will heap scorn upon it...

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/19/frontline-ukraine-crisis-in-borderlands-richard-sakwa-review-account

ahmedfire wrote:

I didn't know anything about her ,thanx Vann.

No problem..

A very easy way .. easy as 1 2 3.. to know what is happening behind the scenes is too
see what CNN ,FOX ,BBC ,Guardian , and other BIG Budget US -British media giants ,is to
see what they promote.. and which people they consider HEROs ..  Simply put.. Real Whistleblowers.. is very rare.. and they will never be covered by the western elite media..
They want those people to stay unknown to the public opinion.. and Susan is one of them.
JUlian Assange i always knew he was a fraud.. and i was wondering how long will take him,
to start moving from low level "leaks" ,to real things.. and show his real face of disinformation..  well it didn't took long..  



Is not clear however for me if he got tired of his disinformation job and defected to ecuador
embassy.. in any case his information was never important.. and never will be. and his disinformation was the real purpose of wikileaks being created.


Then Snowden.. same bullshit.. i was wondering when he will come with the disinformation bomb , of 9/11 .. after he was being accused of being a double spy.. well not even a year took him.. to start claiming it was "incompetence" the reason 9/11 happened ,and that many questions remains unanswered , very ambiguous.   All this Fake Whistlerblowers .. their
job is to mislead US population on the critical major issues that could create revolutions, and put in jail politcians for life or a government coup and they sacrifice in change  low level truths that does not cause any unrest or threaten their power. Interestingly , the latest information
about Snowden after the FSB released a report that he was Fake.. is that he is no longer interested in staying in Russia.. and he is in talks with the US government for his return..
apparently no point to continue in Russia when no longer his show and circus work.


What western media and its neocons elite is now trying to do.. is counter their bad image by
twisting the story of their sponsoring of ISIL.. by saying that US gov created ISIL "by mistake" , for not staying in IRAQ with the army and defending it.. While they will never say is that it was US Government who created ISIS not by mistake ,but by strategy ,by policy  ,and that they cooperate with them all the time and allows their middle east allies to continue sponsoring ,arming and supplying ISIL.