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    Post  nomadski Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:28 pm

    Well at least the doors are closed .  Iran has by now ICBM and no doubt capable of putting  nuclear devices as warheads for Zionist and America or Europe , should they be foolish . I have blogged for the last seventeen years , and warned that Iran should arm with Nukes , since the sanctions will ultimately bring forward and accelerate an unstable political situation and social turmoil , and that is when the Yanks will attack . I said Iran should counter - attack American interests severely , once it had nukes in order to lift the sanctions . Better that we Iranians kill the enemy than shoot at each other . But the response was less than adequate .

    Now we have arrived at the situation I predicted , and it is too late for that plan . Iranians killing each other , and can not fight in all fronts .They must therefore form the Turtle . I also predicted that the present supreme leader , will be the last in power . And that he should try and bring about a democratic framework for Iran , as time was short . He and Rouhani , repeated what I said a few times , but to no avail . The leader is alone in a Sea of troubles . He is subject to the same right wing dictat as the rest of us , afraid for his life . So are many other clerics .

    Events overtake us , as they always do , and it is too late to make any further peaceful progress in politics . Iranians have gained as much as they could and gathered as much of their forces as they could , and this battle is upon them . Democracy is an unlikely outcome , Iranian society is not ready for that . So it is going to be a war or struggle for power . The right wing have more cards to play and more resources . Therefore the battle will be mainly between different factions of the right wing . The liberals allied with the Shah versus the Clerics allied with the Bazaar .

    The Iranian people will be used like a Football to achieve their aims . Kicked from left to right . But as I said , as long as the IRGC and Army defend the borders and hold on to nuclear deterrence , at least the Yanks or Zionists or Europeans or the others can not do shock and awe . The doors are closed , at least Iranians can wash their laundry in private  . And Russian borders are also safe . What the armed forces should  do also , is leaving the crowds alone , and only protect vital buildings , important for national defence and state apparatus and economy . Also what they should not allow others to do , is start a war and open the door for the enemy . Defensive posture .


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    Post  TMA1 Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:14 am

    I'm sorry, homie. We have so much culpability in all this. Can Russia work with the Iranian military to defend its borders?

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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:42 am

    The core problem is that most Americans and indeed most in the west see themselves as civilised good people who would rather do the right thing than the wrong thing to benefit their own position or status.

    Of course the opposite is true... America and the west is not a force for good offering a hand up for those less well off... more often the hand reaching out from the west steals any coins they have and then pushes them down under the water they were drowning in.

    But they justify it by saying the non white people of the rest of the world are stupid and corrupt and just are not as civilised as we whites are.

    The people of these places... China, Iran, Iraq, central and south america etc etc had civilisations and cities when Europe had hunter gatherer groups and tribal systems...

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    Post  nomadski Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:16 pm


    TMA1 wrote " I'm sorry, homie. We have so much culpability in all this. Can Russia work with the Iranian military to defend its borders? " Yes there is a lot that can be done , but most importantly Russia can mediate between Iran and neighbours right now , since there are suspicious adventurism by elements within Iran , aimed at starting a war and provocative elements internally also fomenting chaos . It will cost Russia nothing , just a bit of advice and security assistance .

    The protesters are not voicing economic concerns , but political ones . Sure , if there was no sanctions and Iran had a positive economic growth and low unemployment then the Protests would not happen , or if they did , they would be smaller or happen in the future , with less anger and violence . Progress would then take place slowly and surely , without bloodshed . I see everyday people getting shot and killed , I am starting to feel very low in mood and angry , I think I am loosing my mind over this !

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    Post  par far Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:41 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    TMA1 wrote " I'm sorry, homie. We have so much culpability in all this. Can Russia work with the Iranian military to defend its borders? " Yes there is a lot that can be done , but most importantly Russia can mediate between Iran and neighbours right now , since there are suspicious adventurism by elements within Iran , aimed at starting a war and provocative elements internally also fomenting chaos . It will cost Russia nothing , just a bit of advice and security assistance .

    The protesters are not voicing economic concerns , but political ones . Sure , if there was no sanctions and Iran had a positive economic growth and low unemployment then the Protests would not happen , or if they did , they would be smaller or happen in the future , with less anger and violence . Progress would then take place slowly and surely , without bloodshed . I see everyday people getting shot and killed , I am starting to feel very low in mood and angry , I think I am loosing my mind over this !


    Question for you nomadski, are the Iranian Intelligence good enough to get to the root of this and get the people that are doing this(the ones they can get to?


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:34 pm

    par far wrote:
    Question for you nomadski, are the Iranian Intelligence good enough to get to the root of this and get the people that are doing this(the ones they can get to?

    His last entry was about sending Rus special forces to Kiev, to put valves on the air vents of the ukrs hidden bunkers. Send choppers with tanks filled with gas later. Connect both, and pump the gas inside.
    How sane opinion does it sound for you? dunno
    Do you really want to hear his opinion on other matters? scratch

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    Post  nomadski Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:41 pm

    Parfar wrote " Question for you nomadski, are the Iranian Intelligence good enough to get to the root of this and get the people that are doing this(the ones they can get to? " The Iranian intelligence and security services , have long been compromised by right wing groups , responsible for exterminating democrats and socialists and revolutionaries . No different to Savak , they could be their children or grand-children . They not only will not get to the root of the problem , because they are the root of the problem . I think ,they are deliberately fomenting unrest in Iran , and killing children ,  to engage and enrage the people against the leadership and Army in a civil war  , while their friends in CIA , stage a coup and military intervention and bring the Shah back . Is that an answer for you ? In response , the armed forces ,should withdraw from the street altogether and arrest the security services killing people on the street . The armed forces should also stop internal agents from staging false - flag attacks against neighbours by this right - wing security corrupt personnel , to invite the Yanks to strike Iran ! Russia and China can find trusted personnel in Army to allow secret stationing of Russian fighter Jets in Iranian airfield , with Iranian markings , ready to intercept American Jets , coming in to bomb Iran . Their plan Is to disable Iranian  air - defence , by getting their agents to attack them . They also may use air fields , to land troops . Russian and China , should be ready to intercept troop carrier planes and Iran Army then to close airport .

    @ Alamo

    I never said kill civilians by poison gas in Kiev . I said blow up Nazi bunkers in LDPR , with fuel - air explosives . You like to preserve these bunkers ? Maybe for a vegetable market in the future ? You don't  like roasted Nazi with trimmings for lunch ? All right , I get it , the civilians hostages they hold ? Well , if they hide behind a civilian , you shoot through the civilian to kill a Nazi ! If they stand in front of a civilian , you shoot at them still , even if you kill a civilian . By killing a Nazi , you save many hundred civilians , even if one ends up dead . Does that compute ? You also value the life of your troops above all , compared to life of civilians . If a life of a trooper is lost in a one to one trade - off for a civilian , where otherwise the trooper , not having sacrificed himself , and living and saving the lives of many , is a far better metric .......


    Edit : A summary of action by Iranians .

    ( 1 ) Any member of the public or armed forces should arrest any individual , including security services , that open fire on the public . They should be held by military police for investigation .

    ( 2 ) The armed forces should disobey any order , involving the start of any offensive operations outside Iran borders at this time , or until unrest is finished  . They should just respond , in a limited and controlled way , to any armed terroristic action internally , by whatever group .

    ( 3 ) The armed forces , must protect all government buildings , from attack or arson . They must direct crowds to hold protests outside the city , or in public parks . They must keep open all Roads . If they can not do this peacefully by removing protesters , and the crowds are large , then best leave the crowds alone .

    ( 4 ) The protesters should know , that removing the government by force , will not lead to a better situation for them or Iran . Without political organisation , only foreign powers will benefit , by military intervention . They should first , form political parties , by whatever means , openly or in secret . Once they have an agreed plan for power , then it is easy to change government , without using much force or violence , or risking national security .

    ( 5 ) All normal economic activity should resume . Shops opened , factories working , students studying in university . The suspension of economic activity will damage the Iranian's ability to function normally , and be able to defend themselves against attack . Until popular forces and parties are formed and able to change government quickly and without much violence .

    ( 6 ) The Iranian women should wear the head scarf ( until law is changed ) and people should not disrespect religious feelings of other people or attack the clergy . Even if they seem incapable or unwilling to progress towards a better Iran . Minor arguments over dress , will only result in social turmoil and war . Once popular forces form and can take political power , then all laws can change easily .

    ( 7 ) The right wing extremist reactionary " pseudo - religious " armed murderers , with a hidden face , who sell Iran nuclear secrets , and assassinate Iran nuclear scientist  and shoot peaceful protesters , and imprison democrats and socialists and progressives , will not compromise or give up power , without a fight . Popular forces should protect their leaders and organisations against this minority , by any means necessary . Until they are defeated . Revealing members identity by open protests and activity , by say assembly in front of prisons , will only lead to their defeat .

    ( 8 ) Iranian young people who watch internet , must know that most of them are run by their enemy . And they should not listen to them or their advice . Even if they seem revolutionary or claim to be democrats . Trust only people they know , inside Iran , living and working there .

    Edit : prolonged strikes , closing shops and universities and blocking Roads by protests and writing slogans on walls , and burning government buildings and expulsion of Iranian diplomats and sounding Car Horn and shouting death to this or that and blowing up oil pipes ......Will not bring positive change to society or cause a revolution or change of government or stop state terror and oppression against the people . The necessary condition for a democratic government , is the formation of national political parties and a coalition comprising of the majority of the masses of the people , in a directed and unified and simultaneous movement , using all "effective" means and at the right time , to bring change about .
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:06 pm

    Think this may be lighting the blue touch paper, a step too far.

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    Post  nomadski Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:13 pm

    Of course . The Americans or others will try to take advantage of the recent turmoil . But whose fault is this ? In Syria , there were reports of government troops planting small arms among the corpses of the protesters , to justify their killing . I think I saw this myself on BBC . Did the Syrian government fire the first shot ? Whoever fired the first shot is guilty . whoever drew first blood . The person who responds in defence , is not guilty . It does not matter , if he fired back with a sling shot made in Japan , or a harpoon made in Sweden or an M16 made in USA or an AK47 made in Soviet union . He has to defend himself , in any way he can .

    So if we have to blame anyone , we have to blame the instigators and aggressors and those that reject peace and democracy . And are the Kurds , this time , doing that ? Or are they , like other Iranians shouting for an end to dictatorship and for freedom , on the street ? And are Iranians in all corners of Iran , not subject to attacks ? Who fired the first shot ?

    The Kurds have always had their personal firearms , even under the Shah . They were allowed this . The problem , is one of lack of political development of democracy . A democratic system is capable of addressing the nationalities and minorities question , without bloodshed . I do not dislike the Kurds , because they wish for separate homeland , they have a right to voice this . But in a democratic system , any addition or subtraction to territory , is a matter for a national vote .

    In a democratic national vote , also involving the Iraqi and Turkish nations , the Kurds do not carry enough votes for a separate homeland . But this time , they have not even been voicing a wish for separatism . Only a slogan common to all other Iranians . I do not dislike the Kurds , because some are communists , it is their right under a democratic system , to have free political affiliations . They could dance around a fire , and worship the moon God , It is their right .

    I do not dislike the Kurds , because they want to speak their language in their region . But they will not understand others , if their neighbours speak Persian or Arabic or Turkish . Then they must speak those languages too . Do in Rome , as the Romans do !  In fact I do not dislike the Kurds in any way .The problem is a lack of a democratic central government . The Kurds in this case , only responded to the first shot fired by security services . The fault tests with them . Iran military should withdraw troops from all the streets of Iran . Unless there is a need to respond to armed gangs . They should leave peaceful protests alone .

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    Post  nomadski Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:22 am

    https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/12/protest-hit-iran-abolishes-morality-police/#:~:text=Protest-hit%20Iran%20abolishes%20morality%20police%20December%204%2C%202022,strict%20female%20dress%20code%2C%20local%20media%20said%20Sunday.



    This is a positive step . Dress code can be relaxed for general public in some places and maintained strictly in other places , such as Mosques or Bazaar or official buildings . The role of the supreme leader , in a new democratic constitution can change to a party political leader and / or private individual both with capability to occasionally introduce bills into parliament for a vote , same as special scientific bodies of universities . The role of guardian council , becomes non-political or religious , with some members who are non-clergy , solely to check minimum standards of suitability of MP for elections . So the red lines can be solved like this .


    Those that shoot demonstrators and invite chaos by calling for disorganised mass protests and forced removal of this administration , together with damaging strikes and closure of shops , to enrage the people even more , and use the force of disorganised masses against themselves , promising a better future and saying that nothing could be worse than the current administration , forget that the death of the protesters is nothing compared to the genocide brought about by American bombs . Did they forget Afghanistan ( 30,000 civilian dead ) , Iraq ( 1000,000 dead ) , Syria ( 250,000 dead ) , Libya ( ? read ) by American humanitarian bombs ? All done ,when central authority was weak and there was civil unrest ? Although the Americans will be nuked , this time , if they try !

    The Iranian people should make no attempt at overthrowing this administration by creating chaos on the street . They should organise political parties that offer a realistic alternative , that is capable of filling the political vacuum and run the country , once the time is right and they are adequately organised .  All political parties should cooperate and offer a joint agreed democratic constitution for a referendum before the people . Do not trust any group that has any plan other than the one , I have mentioned . Demonstrations if they happen , should not block Roads , result in closed schools or shops or factories or disrupt government offices . No insult should be allowed , instead only positive slogans , calling for peace or freedom or democracy . No death to - slogans ! Otherwise avoid protest calls !!

    A million organised workers , under a single banner and political party , can take political power , with minimal violence . A million AK47 , in the hands of a million disorganised people , can not take political power , even with maximal violence . During the 1979 revolution , 70,000 people were killed , in just one year , despite the Shah having far less support than the present regime . Now, the right wing enjoy the support of many more among the ordinary people , by the misuse of religion . A revolution now is not possible , but a civil war is possible , together with foreign intervention .

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    Post  Backman Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:20 am

    https://thecradle.co/Article/News/19888

    The Islamic Republic of Iran will receive an entire squadron of Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets from Russia as Tehran and Moscow strengthen their defense and economic collaboration in defiance of broad sanctions and coercive measures, Al-Manar news reported on 28 December.

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    Post  nomadski Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:18 am

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/iranian-tv-channel-halts-london-160741933.html


    Does the name of this " Austrian " sound like Russian ? Maybe from the southern Russia of Chechnya ? I know that the westerners make use of refugees into the West . Many are recruited as spies or informants , including the recent Ukrs arrivals . This internet TV , channel did much more than report the news . It tried to make the news . And there is a great deal of difference . Encouraging turmoil and chaos , under the guise of " freedom" of speech , is no defence . Many in UK , even among the conservative party anti-Iranian Hawks , disagreed with placing this channel in UK . Now they move to USA . But also the right wing extremists in Iran , will target anyone and everyone . Here defending security is no defence either .

    Will Iran or Russia employ a Russian to threaten openly a news outlet , that UK views now as a spent force and irritant that it wants to get rid of ? Well the yanks to the rescue ! They will now foot the bill , UK can relax and improve relations with Iran , after their failed attempt to regime change / colour revolution , through internet TV ! LOL .
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:55 am

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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:58 am

    Lithium is the 21st Centuries Oil.

    Glad it is out of the reaches of the US... perhaps Iran and Russia could cooperate to help Iran develop the technologies to use the Lithium and make useful valuable things rather than just export the raw material and let other countries make the money.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:23 am

    What has caused these symptoms plus paralysis in legs ? Anyone know ? Can Iran send sample for analysis to Russia ? They would , if they ( Iranians themselves ) are not culprits  . They would also make findings public . By analysis , one could determine if this gas is available in some stockpiles , the source . The Iranians can add chemical marker to any CS gas for riot control as well as any loose explosives for demolition or  mining , and keep ingredients secret . In this way internal or external sources can be identified . They would do this , if they are not responsible themselves . If foreign agent responsible , they should declare and give proof . What has caused paralysis in legs ? Whoever ( internal or external )  attacks Iranians , is not their friend .



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W6LOQ8hr16A


    What if it is found and published that a foreign government carried out a chemical weapons attack on Iran ? The leader says maximum punishment for perpetrators . What if it is America or Israel or England ? ........


    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/198165/Students-poisoning-big-unforgivable-crime-Leader


    Edit : There are two groups in Iran now : The first group that is shouting neither Sheikh ( Theocratic rule ) nor Shah ( Monarchical rule ) , and they seek a Democratic Republic , through peaceful means of political party formation and a referendum . yet they lack the necessary political parties or formations . The second group are shouting either Sheikh or Shah , and they seek a dictatorial one man rule and power resting with individuals or personalities . And they are well organised to impose a brutal police state . It seems now with the news coming out of Iran , that the real power brokers ( the wealthy landlords , traders and factory owners and shop keepers ) have decided to poison 300 schools and 5000 students , as a means to either suppress the protests movement through fear , and if not successful , then create chaos on the street , an opportunity to exchange the Sheikh for the Shah ! The involvement of foreign ( USA , UK or Israel .....)  powers is yet unknown . This tactic of the reactionary right wing , is a win win for them .
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:20 pm

    This could be the most important World news for a while. Probable peace in Yemen, possible in Syria and Lebanon. The implications are huge.

    It had to be done as both want to join BRICS and couldn't as things stood. Once that is done, think oil as R SA I will be linked in a group, think OPEC on steroids Smile

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    Mediated By China Iran And Saudi Arabia Restore Ties - There Are Winners And Losers


    This is huge!

    Regional rivals Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to restore ties after years of tensions. The deal, which will see the two countries reopen embassies in each other’s capitals, was sealed during a meeting in China and announced Friday in a joint communique.

    Archrivals Iran and Saudi Arabia agreed Friday to restore diplomatic relations, a dramatic breakthrough brokered by China after years of soaring tensions between the regional rivals.

    The deal, which will see the two countries reopen embassies in each other’s capitals, was sealed during a meeting in China — a boost to Beijing’s efforts to rival the United States as a broker on the global stage.

    The agreement also may put a dampener Israel's ongoing efforts to normalize relations with its Arab neighbors.

    The talks were held because of a “shared desire to resolve the disagreements between them through dialogue and diplomacy, and in light of their brotherly ties,” according to a joint communique from Tehran, Riyadh and Beijing that was published by the Saudi Press Agency, the country’s official news agency.

    The agreement followed intensive negotiations between Ali Shamkhani, a close adviser to Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khameni, and Saudi Arabia’s Minister of State Musaad bin Mohammed Al-Aiban, according to the statement.

    It added that the foreign ministers from both countries would “meet to implement this, arrange for the return of their ambassadors, and discuss means of enhancing bilateral relations.”

    ..............................

    There are winners and losers in this.

    The winners are:

    Iran, which will now be even more able to break through the sanctions wall the U.S. has put up around it.
    Saudi Arabia, which now will likely be able to end its disastrous and costly war on Yemen.
    China, for outplaying the U.S. State Department by achieving this.
    Iraq, Syria, Yemen as they will become more peaceful as the two middle powers influencing policies on their grounds end their rivalry.

    The losers are:

    Israel, because the chances for its attempts to get the U.S. into a war with Iran are now diminished. Its hoped for coalition with the Saudis will not come into being.
    The U.S. for having been outplayed on its traditional 'home grounds' in the Middle East.
    Anti-Iran hawks everywhere.
    The Emirates for losing at least some of the sanction busting trade with Iran to Saudi Arabia.

    This renewal of relations will change the Middle East:

    Tensions between Sunni Muslim powerhouse Saudi Arabia and Iran, which is majority Shiite, have dominated the region for decades.

    The two countries have been locked in an intensifying struggle for dominance, their rivalry exacerbated by proxy conflicts, including the war in Yemen.

    Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam and the site of its two holiest cities, has historically seen itself as the leader of the Muslim world. The Iranian Revolution of 1979 shook Saudi Arabia and other Gulf kingdoms, which saw the regime in Tehran as a rival.

    While tensions brewed for years, Saudi Arabia broke off ties in 2016 after protesters stormed Saudi diplomatic posts in Iran and set fire to the embassy in Tehran.

    Days earlier, Saudi Arabia had executed the prominent Shiite cleric Nimr al-Nimr.

    “Clearing up the misunderstandings and looking to the future in Tehran-Riyadh relations will definitely lead to the development of regional stability and security and the increase of cooperation between the countries of the Persian Gulf and the Islamic world to manage the existing challenges,” Shamkhani said Friday after signing the deal, according to Press TV.

    Much more at https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/mediated-by-china-iran-and-saudi-arabia-restore-ties-there-are-winners-and-losers/comments/page/3/#comments

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    Post  Kiko Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:42 pm

    China-brokered Iran-Saudi Deal Threatens to Push US Out of the Gulf and Washington Knows It, by Ilya Tsukanov for SputnikNews. 03.11.2023.

    Negotiators from long-time regional rivals Iran and Saudi Arabia signed a surprise agreement in Beijing on Friday on the normalization of relations, the reopening of embassies and the resumption of cooperation on security, trade and investment. The deal, which came after years of grueling negotiations, was met with sour grapes in Washington.

    The Biden administration’s utter lack of involvement in the negotiations which culminated in the Iran-Saudi diplomatic deal secured by China is a warning sign signaling the waning of Washington’s influence and power in the Middle East, virtually all major US media analyses covering the story have admitted.

    "If this deal can be sustained – regardless of what the interest was or who sat down at the table – if it can be sustained, and the war in Yemen can end, and Saudi Arabia doesn’t have to continually try to defend itself against attacks from the Houthis who are funded and supported by Iran, in the end we welcome that,” National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said in a press briefing on Friday, putting a brave face on the sobering development.

    “It really does remain to be seen whether the Iranians are going to honor their side of the deal,” Kirby repeated, adding that the US was engaged in its own “effective combination of deterrence and diplomacy” vis-à-vis Iran.

    White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre echoed Kirby’s sentiments, telling reporters Friday that the US welcomed “any efforts to help end the war in Yemen and de-escalate tensions in the Middle East.”

    "That is one of the reasons why the president – you saw him travel in – over the summer to have those conversations. De-escalation and diplomacy, together with deterrence, are key pillars of the policy that the president – that President Biden put out – outlined during his visit in July in the region,” the spokeswoman said.

    But Friday’s rapprochement was about much more than just “ending the war in Yemen,” US media covering the story have admitted.

    “Iran-Saudi Pact Is Brokered by China, Leaving US on Sidelines,” the New York Times’ headline read before being revised to “Chinese-Brokered Deal Upends Mideast Diplomacy and Challenges US.” The self-described paper of record indicated that the agreement signaled “at least a temporary reordering of the usual alliances and rivalries” in the region, and China’s growing global diplomatic clout, with Beijing said to have “suddenly transformed themselves into a new power player” out of a nation traditionally playing second fiddle to Washington. DC think tank analysts confirmed to the newspaper that the pact was “a big deal” and that the US had proven itself unable to broker an analogous agreement.

    The Washington Post gave off similarly humdrum and depressing vibes, with the lead to its report reading “After decades of US failures in the region, China takes a turn as Middle East power broker.”

    “What is notable of course is the decision to hand the Chinese a huge public relations victory – a photo op that is intended to demonstrate China’s newfound stature in the region,” Brookings Institution vice president Suzanne Maloney told WaPo. “In that sense, it would appear to be yet another Saudi slap in the face to the Biden administration.”

    Business Insider took a more provocative approach, suggesting Riyadh’s move wasn’t so much a “slap in the face” as a “middle finger to Biden,” signaling a new low point in traditionally strong Saudi-US ties.

    CNN, meanwhile, offered a curiously forthright reflection about the Iran-Saudi deal’s global implications in terms of the reordering of the world order away from US unipolarity, characterizing the agreement as a “signal” to “the start of a new era, with China front and center.”

    “Unlike Washington, Beijing has shown an ability to transcend the many rivalries that criss-cross the Middle East. China has forged good diplomatic relations with countries across the region, driven by strengthening economic ties, without the Western lectures on human rights. In retrospect, Beijing has been poised to broker the conflict-ridden Middle East’s latest diplomatic breakthrough for years, simultaneously underscoring the US’ diminishing regional influence,” CNN’s story reads.

    Beltway politics-focused outlet The Hill emphasized that the China-brokered deal further “undercuts the posture of the US in the region” after the 2021 withdrawal from Afghanistan and the purported paring down of the US troop presence in Syria. The only hope for the US, a think tank researcher told the outlet, was that the Saudis and the Iranians wouldn’t be able to put aside their differences for long.

    "It remains to be seen if they can have a meaningful dialogue. Opening up embassies is not the same as having a meaningful dialogue,” Middle East Institute Iran program director Alex Vatanka said.

    'Victory for Dialogue’

    Chinese top diplomat Wang Yi hailed the Iran-Saudi deal a “victory for dialogue” and “a victory for piece,” calling it “significant good news” in a world wracked by violence and uncertainty.

    The agreement is the product of many years of intense, behind the scenes negotiations by Iranian and Saudi diplomats, including the late Revolutionary Guards Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani, who was killed in a US missile strike in Baghdad in January 2020 while engaging in Iraq-brokered indirect negotiations with Saudi officials.

    Iran and Saudi Arabia have been regional rivals for decades, with tensions rising after the Iranian Revolution of 1979, which brought to power an Islamic Republican government, sparking a bitter competition for leadership of the Islamic World. Tensions have been exacerbated by Riyadh’s traditional close ties with the United States, which Tehran formally dubs the “Great Satan.” The two countries broke off relations entirely in 2016 after the execution of a Shia Saudi cleric, and attacks on Saudi diplomatic missions inside the Islamic Republic, with Friday’s agreement meant to put an end to years of bad blood based on religious differences and geopolitics.

    https://sputniknews.com/20230311/china-brokered-iran-saudi-deal-threatens-to-push-us-out-of-the-gulf-and-washington-knows-it-1108298905.html

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:59 am

    A special and not so subtle message for the US/UK, my highlight


    A high-level gathering of Gulf Arab states and Iranian officials is on track to take place later this year in the Chinese capital Beijing, according to sources that spoke with the Wall Street Journal (WSJ).

    Chinese President Xi Jinping pitched the idea for the summit during a regional summit he attended in Riyadh last December. According to the report published on 12 March, the leaders from the six-country Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) welcomed Xi’s proposal to reduce tensions with Iran.

    On Friday, Beijing brokered a historic deal to restore relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia. These two superpowers cut ties in 2016 and have historically backed rivaling factions in regional conflicts.

    The agreement was praised across the Global South. It was described by many as a significant power play by China in becoming a top power broker in West Asia at a time when US influence continues to diminish.

    This reality was made evident during last week’s secret talks between Iranian and Saudi officials in Beijing, where, per the WSJ, “all parties agreed not to use English in the negotiations, with speeches and documents conducted in Arabic, Farsi or Mandarin.”

    The agreement gives Riyadh and Tehran two months to hammer out all details before the countries’ foreign ministers meet to sign a finalized deal. Sources say the Iran-GCC summit would occur “sometime after that.”

    According to the report, the deal signed on Friday calls – among other things – for Saudi Arabia to order Iran International to “tone-down critical coverage” of the Islamic Republic. At the same time, Tehran reportedly agreed to “stop encouraging cross-border attacks on Saudi Arabia” by Yemen’s Ansarallah resistance movement.

    Saudi officials have hopes that Beijing can “use its economic ties to influence Iran’s behavior,” as China remains the biggest importer of Iranian oil.

    According to Iran’s state-owned Mehr News Agency, ahead of Friday’s deal, China allowed Tehran to access parts of funds frozen in Chinese banks due to Washington’s “maximum pressure” sanctions campaign.

    During his visit to Riyadh in December, Xi called on Arab states to remain “independent and defend their common interests,” adding that China “supports Arab states in independently exploring development paths suited to their national conditions and holding their future firmly in their own hands.”

    He also vowed to import more oil and natural gas from Gulf Arab states while not interfering in their affairs, a departure from Washington’s long-standing policy of interference and domination.

    https://thecradle.co/article-view/22458/china-to-host-iran-gcc-summit-later-this-year-report

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    Post  Kiko Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:38 pm

    Saudi Arabia's king invites Iranian president to visit Riyadh, 03.19.2023.

    DOHA (Sputnik) - Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz has invited Iranian President Ibrahim Raisi to pay an official visit to Riyadh, deputy head of the Iranian Presidential Administration for Political Affairs Mohammad Jamshidi said on Sunday.

    "King Salman bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia, in his message to Iranian President Ibrahim Raisi, welcomed the agreement between the two brotherly countries to restore relations and invited the Iranian president for an official visit to Riyadh. The king called for stronger economic and regional cooperation between the two countries," Jamshidi wrote on his Twitter account.

    He stressed that "the President of Iran, for his part, thanked King Salman for his invitation and reiterated Iran's readiness to strengthen cooperation."

    Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian announced early on Sunday that he would meet with his Saudi counterpart, after both countries agreed to resume relations.

    On March 10, it was reported that Iran and Saudi Arabia signed an agreement on the resumption of diplomatic relations, providing for the mutual opening of embassies within two months. The respective joint statement was issued after several days of negotiations held in Beijing between the head of Iran's Higher National Security Council and his Saudi counterpart.

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    https://sputniknews.lat/20230319/el-rey-de-arabia-saudi-invita-al-presidente-irani-a-visitar-riad-1137056437.html

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    Post  GarryB Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:22 am

    The US and the west have been powers in the Middle East for 100 years now and what have they achieved except creating and encouraging wars and conflict?

    It will be good to see what China and BRICS can manage with talking and trade.

    They don't need to be best buddies, nor do they need to change to this or that religion or this or that type of government, and they can refuse to show things they find offensive to their populations without pressure or condemnation...

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    Post  nomadski Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:22 am

    There seems to be a USA driven attempt ( and I am reading between the lines ) to improve relations with Iran . Hence , I believe , this approach by China and Saudis towards Iran . Why this is taking place now , is not completely clear . But it could be because of economic conditions in Europe , and energy security , or an attempt to at least tactically remove Iran from influence by Russia , or it could be because Iran just showed them a big Nuclear stick , one that leaves any military option they have , on the shelf . It could be a combination of these factors . Whatever the real motivational factor , and these will become clear soon , I believe Iran should not fall into their trap . The Leopard never changes it's spots . Iran's real alliance , should be with Russia and China . Any easing of sanctions and potential supply of Iranian fuel to Europe , should not undermine the Russian war effort or take the market away from them . Iranians must not forget that the yanks will double- cross them , and will use them for tactical advantage . Iranians must have a strong fall back position .
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:30 am

    You never fail to provide a misinterpretation of events nomadski

    No hard feelings Wink
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    Post  nomadski Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:31 pm


    No hard feelings . Why should there be ? We are only talking here . I say this , because of sudden U- turn , of 180 degrees in China and Saudis and Yank policy at the same time . Coinciding with what significant event ? Well there was the imminent collapse of Ukrs front in LDPR , and enriched Uranium to 84% in Iran and ..........The looming next winter in Europe and no money left to subsidise heating . What is your interpretation ? The world suddenly felt sorry for Iranians ?
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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:18 am

    Saudi Arabia does not have good relations with both political parties in the US, and they have been getting a bit of stick from the US along with the obvious... they don't treat them with any respect at all.

    Saudi Arabia and Iran are seeing BRICS as a chance to break away from the western model where they will always be a US vassal and pawn, to where they can grow and develop and improve their lot for everyone, which should create a bit of stability and prosperity.

    Anyone can see the west is all about conflict... getting countries to stop being neutral and start fighting their neighbours... they claim HATO is for peace but really it is the US winding up the natives and getting them to find differences with Russia and pick fights... the Ukraine was morally bankrupt but has significant resources that the US could milk for decades, but they kept escalating and now they will likely lose it all, either to Russia, or to the independent states that are created and then they will have to buy them at market prices.

    I really don't understand the US... they print their own money and have no consequences because their money is in demand so they could buy everything and then rent it back to everyone else who needed it and still live a good life... but instead they use their money like a weapon and create conflict and violence to seize the things they want when they want them... and that is currently breaking the structures they have taken a century to build.

    Ironically if you listen to what they say it sounds nice, but compare it with their actions and you realise it is just telling us what we want to hear... like a crooked politician knowing what gets votes to give him the power to get into power and then do as he pleases... he probably also has excuses as to why he can't do what he promised as well.

    But the general public keep thinking this guy is the good guy... and he is not.

    Iran and Saudi Arabia want a future and they know the west wants to end its use of fossil fuels (and will demand everyone else does too)... which is where most of their honest income comes from so they have to do something or they are going to become Albanias of the Middle East.

    They have seen how the west reacts to Russia and China developing and becoming more powerful and realise even if they manage to get everything right and start to flourish as countries that the US and EU will do to them what they are doing to Russia and China, so there is no prosperous future for them with the west... which leaves going it alone or joining BRICS, and I doubt BRICS will want them if they are fighting like cats and dogs as they are now.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:49 am

    In Iran , some are setting buildings on fire , some are dancing in the streets , some are walking the streets without head- scarf , some discuss the merits of a Monarchy , some advise on private prayer , some insist on reading the Qur'an to solve problems , some are throwing poison gas into schools , some are having surgery to remove eyes destroyed by shot gun fire , some visit the graves of those shot dead in protests , some are busy thinking about the Dollar exchange rate and price of Gold , some only think about price of bread , some participate in intellectual discussions , some want their pensions to be paid , some march to save the environment , some think about the advice from " scientists ," to find solutions ........

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YdheTjgXcPw&list=PL84B3D3E44AD76290&index=14


    And some , like this infant ( retaining both eyes ! )  , think about being bitten by mosquitos ! Now to solve problems , a human being needs eyes and ears and a brain and a tongue to speak . They do not necessarily need a PHD . So what is important , in solving problems , is a collective voice and social intelligence , instead of individual intelligence . If all of society could freely speak and think and see , then this collective social intelligence would bring forward solutions . Therefore a society that blinds it's youth and hangs it's political elements , will not find solutions or be able to apply solutions .

    https://www.president.ir/EN/143149#:~:text=Speaking%20on%20Tuesday%20evening%20in%20a%20Iftar%20ceremony,of%20the%20acceleration%20of%20the%20country%27s%20scientific%20growth.

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