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    Post  Isos Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:45 am

    Iran has missiles to hit accross the middle east and destroy saudi oil production that can affamect the western world, in the same time China will keep buying iranian oil.

    Moreover Iran isn't the failed Lybian state. It's very old country with very smart people that can do nasty stuff like bio weapons in desperate counter attack or targeted assassinations during hight tensions.

    IMO any country attacking them will think twice. They are very well aware Iran is very capable.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:52 am

    The west uses drones all the time over African countries and Pakistan and murder people most days.

    Their own figures show they kill about 5,000 people a year with drone strikes so probably very few days go by when they are not murdering someone... but it doesn't happen much over Iran.

    And of course it is not because they don't want to...


    People have the right to gather . They have the right to chant demands . They have the right to demand change in political system . They have the right to form political parties . They have the right to vote in a new democratic constitution . The present usurpers and dictators have no right to shoot them . They have no right to violently suppress political opposition . They have no right to ban political parties . They have no right to limit people's power by any religious justification . .......

    Agree, but they don't have the right to dictate to government by riot. They don't have the right to injure police or damage cars and property, they don't have the right to start fires and burn car tires and block the streets and prevent other people going about their daily business.

    They can demand anything they please as long as it is lawful, but they should not expect actual change just because they went out and protested... no government works that way.

    You can't run a country by a show of hands.

    And if you want an example of fucked up governments look at the British government.... the people voted to leave the EU but the woman in charge during the transition was against leaving the EU and look how that turned out... but then how can anyone expect her to implement a policy she was against?

    And then they got Boris.

    Like Chris Farleys older dumber brother... at least Chris could use a comb... and wasn't an idiot.
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    Post  nomadski Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:35 am

    GarryB wrote :


    ".....Agree, but they don't have the right to dictate to government by riot. They don't have the right to injure police or damage cars and property, they don't have the right to start fires and burn car tires and block the streets and prevent other people going about their daily business......"  Sounds good to me ! Better allow them a place , where they sit down and form a political party .


    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2021/12/01/2618054/exclusive-europeans-urge-prompt-end-to-jcpoa-talks


    Great ! Thank you Europe . Now send back Iran team empty handed . Let them go and do some useful work , like build a Nuke deterrent ! A democratic government and self-sufficient economy !

    I heard that Israelis do not want negotiations to go ahead ! And Iran reacted by affirming that it will carry on with the negotiations . Israelis playing reverse psychology and Iranians falling for it !

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/181339/Iran-reacts-to-Israeli-calls-for-cessation-of-Vienna-talks



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BOQQPt2LoNY


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8s8X0yHoAXc


    LOL !
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    Post  nomadski Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:57 pm

    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2021/12/11/2623788/westerners-mood-changing-by-hour-source-in-vienna-jcpoa-talks-says


    And they expect guarantees from such fickle people ? They expect that sanctions will not be reimposed ? That Iran will not be attacked and drawn into a war , it can not win ? The present power structure and minority administration is inherently incapable of restoring Iran's defence or economy or politics ! There is only one outcome possible under these circumstances !
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    Post  nomadski Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:26 pm



    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/181956/12-000-Iranians-sacrificed-in-fight-against-drug-trafficking


    Iranians can buy these from Afghans . And manufacture medicine from them and sell to the world . Or help Afghans manufacture and sell as medicines .

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    Post  par far Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:02 pm




    Iran knows that the sanctions don't have the pull it once did because Iran is integrating into the Russian-Chinese led bloc and soon the Russian-Chinese bloc will have it own payment system.

    The US is fucked internally and is on the decline, while the EU is more fucked than the US. You have refugees that came illegally into the EU becoming politicians.

    Iran fully understands this and that is why they are making demands.

    The threat of war is hollow and Iran knows, as does "The collective West" knows.

    If Iran is attacked militarily, the US bases in the Middle East will be hit hard and the Jews in Israel will be hit hard. And there will be a major war that "The collective West" does not want.

    In the end some kind of deal will be signed with Iran because the world is way different than it was in 2015 and before that.

    Right now there is a powerful Russian-Chinese bloc that Iran is part of.

    As Alexander points out, the US wanted to disengage from the Middle East to take on China but "the collective west" are horrible Poker/Chess players, that they cannot see the moves in the future. Now the US will engaged in three fronts, the Russian front, the Chinese front and the Iranian front. All Russia, China and Iran has to do is chip away at "the collective West".
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    Post  nomadski Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:07 pm

    https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/52816/Teachers+at+the+forefront+of+Irans+new+class+struggle


    There has been a miracle in Iran ! No , I am not talking about the protests as such , but unknown to most , apart from the keen observer , the protests occurred in three distinct phases . First the workers protested . Then the Farmers protested . Then the teachers protested ! These are distinct economic classes , forming the basis for formation of political parties . And this is what must be done next . Instead of street protests , political parties with their own membership and political programme . No more short term economic demands with protests on the street . But political power to the majority of the people ! A new constitution !

    Notice the Bazzari thieves did not protest ! I wonder why ? I guess they and their allies clergy will loose power in a new democratic republic ! I have said for some time that a democratic republic with proportional representation is what Iran needs . I wonder who the people have been listening to ? It is time that the Iranian right wing Bazzari gang lost political power to the democrats and socialists !

    A joke for you : what has Islam and capitalism have in common ?  There is no joke about the profit ! .........what has Islam and socialism have in common ?  There is no profit-erring  in Islam . Once the people are organised proportionately in parliament , then they decide their own fate ! Not the Ayatollah or expediency council or security council or interior ministry or intelligence ministry or aunty Shahla.........long live :


    ( 1 ) The party of Iranian workers .

    ( 2 ) The party of Iranian teachers and allied office workers .

    ( 3 ) The party of Iranian Farmers .

    ( 4 ) The party of Iranian traders .

    As mentioned before .....
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:12 pm

    nomadski wrote:https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/52816/Teachers+at+the+forefront+of+Irans+new+class+struggle


    There has been a miracle in Iran ! No , I am not talking about the protests as such , but unknown to most , apart from the keen observer , the protests occurred in three distinct phases . First the workers protested . Then the Farmers protested . Then the teachers protested ! These are distinct economic classes , forming the basis for formation of political parties . And this is what must be done next . Instead of street protests , political parties with their own membership and political programme . No more short term economic demands with protests on the street . But political power to the majority of the people ! A new constitution !

    Notice the Bazzari thieves did not protest ! I wonder why ? I guess they and their allies clergy will loose power in a new democratic republic ! I have said for some time that a democratic republic with proportional representation is what Iran needs . I wonder who the people have been listening to ? It is time that the Iranian right wing Bazzari gang lost political power to the democrats and socialists !

    A joke for you : what has Islam and capitalism have in common ?  There is no joke about the profit ! .........what has Islam and socialism have in common ?  There is no profit-erring  in Islam . Once the people are organised proportionately in parliament , then they decide their own fate ! Not the Ayatollah or expediency council or security council or interior ministry or intelligence ministry or aunty Shahla.........long live :


    ( 1 ) The party of Iranian workers .

    ( 2 ) The party of Iranian teachers and allied office workers .

    ( 3 ) The party of Iranian Farmers .

    ( 4 ) The party of Iranian traders .

    As mentioned before .....

    At some point, Mahmud Ahmadineeschād will be president again when he is not killed before. Sad He is still very popular and his Iranian way was the right way for Iran. The elites do not like him and the religious not.
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    Post  nomadski Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:37 pm

    The political developments in Iran are positive . They are moving beyond personality politics and into party politics , in the best way possible . The anti-democratic elements are weak . A new constitution is needed , to ensure a democratic system based on proportional representation is put in place . The seats in parliament therefore belong 40% to the workers etc . The post of President should be abolished and replaced by prime minister . Other organs such as expediency council and guardian council and security council , adopt advisory bodies to parliament only . The position of supreme leader is kept mostly in advisory capacity with ability to introduce bills into parliament say once a year . Same with other high scientific bodies from universities . Political parties are free to form . Without many or any restrictions . However the new constitution should guarantee only that economic classes are proportionately represented . Making no restriction on political belief or inclinations .

    Edit : If government is short of funds to build public housing , because of sanctions and can not increase budget by taxation and needs 4000,000 units to be built , then solution is :


    ( 1 ) Forget about high rise residential apartment complexes in towns . Where there are no jobs or industrial growth . Other countries experience of these building complexes is mostly negative . A lot of crime and unemployment leading to a sick environment . These will be abandoned , and will have to be pulled down in twenty years time .


    ( 2 ) Land to be provided , either public land or private land on cheap lease by the government . The couple's who are married but without a home , can then provide the Labour for building their own homes on this lands . Using traditional methods and cheap materials available locally , like mud bricks or stone bricks . With modern scientific help .

    ( 3 ) Agricultural activity or light industrial activity to provide self employment . For those with less than self-sufficient income , then subsidy to be provided .

    Expansion of the agricultural sector and moving people out from overcrowded cities , together with land redistribution and self -sufficient communities is the long term solution . Better that they partly feed themselves , than not at all , sitting in a high rise flat in a city without a job , in over crowded conditions !

    https://www.downtoearth.org.in/indepth/mud-housing-is-the-key-30237

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TaKqPqBtXIM

    Desalination plants can provide enough water for modern efficient agriculture , to produce crops and animal protein . A 1000,000 cubic meter output desalination plant produces enough water for producing 200 grammes of Chicken meat per day / per person , for 1000,000 people . Four desalination plants will provide enough water to produce enough protein for four million people .

    https://waterfootprint.org/en/water-footprint/product-water-footprint/water-footprint-crop-and-animal-products/

    For draught grow different crops .

    https://www.infobloom.com/what-are-the-different-types-of-drought-resistant-crops.htm


    Use 50% less water for agriculture .

    https://www.agrifarming.in/drip-irrigation-system-complete-guide

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    Post  medo Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:15 pm

    https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/01/irans-president-makes-first-visit-russia

    Iranian president Raisi made his first visit to Russia, where he met with president Putin.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:54 pm

    Iran Marks Readiness to Share Advanced Military Tech With Friends and Neighbours

    https://sputniknews.com/20220119/iran-marks-readiness-to-share-advanced-military-tech-with-friends-and-neighbours-1092371107.html

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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:46 pm

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    Praying in the Kremlin.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:21 pm






    Good to see developments in relations for both nations . Many advantages for both . From geopolitical routes for trade with Europe and Russia for Iran . And access to world trade , via land and sea route of warm waters of Persian Gulf for Russia . To protect these trade routes , then a joint security force , comprising of investor nations such as Russia and Iran and China and others , along the lines of CSTO , could be set up to protect such routes . These would need land and sea and airports , where military escorts for ships and trains and Road convoys , could be supplied and housed . Also a common need to set up and use alternative to swift for SCO nations that trade in local non-Dollar currency , and China may follow Russia and dump Dollar securities in USA . Alternative internet could also prove useful . As well as standardisation of industrial and military equipment , Rail and Road etc .
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:10 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    Good to see developments in relations for both nations . Many advantages for both . From geopolitical routes for trade with Europe and Russia for Iran .

    An interesting bi-directional trade opportunity to minimise tanker miles, a crude and gas swap or even refined products. Russia sells hydrocarbons out of the Gulf as if they were theirs whilst Iran does the reverse.

    Could work well if the quantities balanced?

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:14 pm

    Maybe they can get back to discussing a canal Caspia-Oman Very Happy
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    Post  nomadski Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:24 pm

    @ JohninMK

    "....Could work well if the quantities balanced?.." Different arrangements can be worked out . A large quantity can be exchanged for smaller one , repaid over longer term . This visit by Iranian president , important step by power brokers in Iran , discarding their " communist " phobic ideas . More pragmatic !


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    "...Maybe they can get back to discussing a canal Caspia-Oman .... " A fast rail link more practical , with port facility either end . Security for rail link , could be jointly provided by nations using it from central Asia , land locked nations , neighbouring Caspian sea . I love the Caspian sea . I swam it , as a child . Ate the Sturgeon kebab !


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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 am

    discarding their " communist " phobic ideas . More pragmatic !

    If it is a problem to date then it is not so much communist phobia, as Russophobia... Russia has not been communist for a number of decades... 3 in fact.

    BTW it is very good of the west and the US in particular to be pushing Iran and Russia together... I think both countries will benefit from this arrangement and can grow the economies in each country...

    Funny how the west can't be happy unless everyone else is unhappy... not very attractive in terms of friendship potential...
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:38 am

    John's concept is very interesting in detail, and if we are to hear the rumors, the $10bln purchase that Iranians are going to make, will be partially paid in resources. So there is no better way to use them, rather than process in Iran, and transfer to lets say India.
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:07 pm

    What came out at the meeting now? What was signed?

    I suspected, as long as Russia in Syria does not go against all threats, nothing happens.

    Iran is a very conscious state. They do not trust Russia. Russia has no prove that it is trustworthy.

    Iran has had a lot of victims in Syria. Has fought the IS in Iraq and Syria directly on the ground. What Russia could not have afforded the scope. Russia has to acknowledge the recognition and Iranian troops from Israel save protect in Syria.
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    Post  nomadski Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:46 pm

    @ GarryB

    "...If it is a problem to date then it is not so much communist phobia, as Russophobia... Russia has not been communist for a number of decades... 3 in fact.... " I tend to think it is communist phobia ! Since government people talk about this aspect that they mostly remember . I think partly to do with internal politics within Iran . This being much more intense than some other countries . They also remember the anti-religious drive during Communist era . But most Iranians have a positive outlook .

    @ Mig31

    ".....They do not trust Russia. Russia has no prove that it is trustworthy...... " Does any country's  leadership  trust any other ? Nobody can predict the shifting sands of the political landscape . My advice to all leaders is that ;  They should trust only as far as if this trust was misplaced , that it would not significantly and adversely affect the fate of their nation . Iranians are talking about not putting all their eggs in one basket . Or having a multipronged foreign policy .

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