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    Post  Firebird Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:27 pm

    The squeezing of the Southern Cauldron is ofcourse excellent news. Personally, I'd have bombed the fucked out of more of them.
    The Donetsk media seems to be reporting numerous sucsesses.

    However, the Western, esp the US press is reporting it differently. Its saying that Russian is poised to intervene. And that the hohol scum are advancing further towards Donetsk etc.

    I wonder if the junta will use a mass of ballistic missiles/commit further heavy attacks in civillian areas.
    I also wonder if Russia really is poised to intervene. And I also wonder how much the Resistance are ready to defend against what is likely to be a heavy onslaught.

    Will Russia send a flood of advanced weapons in for the Resistance, enough to repel some of the attacks on Lugansk and DonetsK?

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    Post  Vann7 Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:10 pm

    In other news.. Russia *talks* of possible sanctions against US and EU airliners have taken the western market like a storm. The discussion of the idea of blocking Siberia airspace to western Airliners alone have provoked panic on investors.. and already western airliners in 2 days have loss from up to $1 billion dollars without any sanction being imposed yet.   Cool 

    http://actualidad.rt.com/economia/view/136194-rusia-prepara-respuesta-sanciones-aerolineas-dobrolet

    The believe is the prices of Air flights from Europe to Japan if Russia sanctions them could increase by up to 70%..
    This will also benefit significantly competitors airliners. IF China joins the sanctions literary they could shut down tourism from Asia to Europe.. it will be an atomic Economic bomb to the west and airliners will go bankrupt too.  Cool 

    They wanted to mess with Russia and now they are getting a taste of Russian sanctions.. This does not include
    the ban of US and EU food to Russia. which will be huge losses to the west.  This is a real economic war.. Make no
    mistake.. im sure the European Union is already very nervous of whats next.. 70 % increase for a plane ticket?
    OUCH!!  Laughing  Thats what i call sanctions.  In the case of Food this will not affect Russia economy at all ,but if any increase it.. since will promote domestic products.. it also banning food from the west will not affect Russia because they can buy fruits and meat from BRICS allies or latin america ,from crimea or armenia ,turkey ,Syria or simply produce it themselves.. is not rocket science to produce meat internally and crimea can be changed produce fruit.Honestly i dont think we will see total block of trade between EU and Russia. The west ,specially the EU will have to backdown or Go bankrupt.
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:23 pm

    Russia is also banning materials and food from EU to Russia for one year. The list of products and food is not published yet but i hope it will hurt EUs economy.

    Russia should impose sanctions against US for precious metals and metals entirely for at least 1 year. Russia will not have any losses since US will need to buy metals anyway and have to buy them over other countries and those countries have to buy it from russia anyway so the US ends up being 3rd in line of buying metals for higher prices.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:23 am

    For the people that believe in Predictions ,Psychic that were very very popular on his lifetime for being
    consulted about the future events.. Probably the one that comes at the top in terms of details and not bulshit poetry
    that could mean any thing.. like ie.. Nostradamus so called predictions. If you want one of the best of the best. in the world when it comes to detailed direct information and accuracy in predictions about the future, look no further than the american psychic (Edgar Cayce ).

    How he worked? basically he charged ,ZERO..no money for his future readings on people.. he believed gift he had to predict the future came from God and that he had to share with humanity for free. He lived a modest life ,and died poor. He was called the sleeping prophet because all his readings about people future was always on his dream state. He fall sleep ,people ask question and he give answers.

    in 1930s.. Edgar Cayce told  that the Future of Humanity will rest with Russia. But that it will not be on soviet union times but after communism. His predictions are incredibly in line with another very popular Psychic ,a bulgarian women ,vanga who told something similar.. both predicted in details world war 2.

    let see what the bulgarian women told about Russia..


    In 1979, during her meeting with writer Valentin Sidorov, Vanga said: "All will thaw, as if ice, only one remain untouched - Vladimir's glory, glory of Russia. Too much it is brought in a victim. Nobody can stop Russia. All will be removed by her from the way and not only will be kept, but also becomes the lord of the world."

    Before her death in 1996, Vanga predicted glorious future for Russia again. According to the Bulgarian clairvoyant, Russia will be the world's only superpower. Specialists calculated that 68 percent of her prophecies had come true. We only can wait and see if her other prophecies become real or not.

    Well if you look at mystics predictions way before the fall of soviet union. It doesn't take a genius to see that today such predictions some of them makes a lot of sense. If you go for example to Russia today spanish , the comments sections are overwhelming about 95% in favor of Russia ,and in full support of Russia actions taken about Syria and Ukraine.. actually they hoping Russia to invade Ukraine and wipe the nazis. LOL  Laughing 

    So you have world psychic ,the best two ever existed saying the same Russia will be the hope of Humanity.. way before world war 2..and that it will be a non communist Russia the one that will do it. in other worlds Russia Federation of today with  mixed capitalism and social help.

    When you look at such predictions about Russia. its sound true today more than ever.. because you have an overwhelming support for Euro Asia for Russia. and overwhelming support for Russia in Latin america.. and even
    a significant support (about half of population) in US support Russia policy and reject Obama ones of confrotation and wars and probably the European countries ,should have a quite decent support for Russia too but no idea about that.. they could all be terribly brainwashed by their neocon elites media.  Laughing 

    http://josephpedepoetry.blogspot.com/2014/02/edgar-cayce-future-of-humanity-will.html


    Edgar Cayce: The Future of Humanity will rest with Russia
    Over the past number of years I have pontificated that Vladimir Putin and Russia will play a key role in Mankind's survival - both spiritually and physically. Coming across the below noted readings by Edgar Cayce only crystallizes what I had already come to believe.

    It further re-affirms the fact that the Western Cabal is a criminal organization intent on destroying this planet and Mankind. What is happening in the Ukraine is no accident. What is happening in the Middle-East is no accident, and what is happening in Argentina and Venezuela is no accident.

    The event which reached its apex during the Sochi Olympics was obviously planned and carried out by this depraved group of people. The media and internal Western operatives played a key role in exaggerating an already tense situation - a situation which eventually became deadly. The blood that runs in the Ukraine was marked by a bullet from the West
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    Post  Regular Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:20 am

    Who else think that Russian sanctions to EU look weak?
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:29 am

    Regular wrote:Who else think that Russian sanctions to EU look weak?

    Western airliners lost near $1 billions in value with the discussion of blocking their siberian airspace..
    If Russia actually do that ,it will destroy the Europe tourist industry and airliners will go bankrupt.
    The GDP of EUROPE grow from the start of 2014 is 0.3%. Any small ammount of sanctions will hurt the EU and they will go in recession , this is just the start of sanctions. In the case of Poland they will lose $1billion in sales of fruits every year.. that is no small. Russia can also truly damage EU economy , if they ban the sale of Europeans cars in Russia. Germany auto industry alone can lose 400,000 jobs. Once Russia have all their pipelines in China
    they can buy all the Gas that Russia sells in Europe.. Thats when things will become scary for EU entire economy.
    50% increase of Gas price is not a small thing
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:43 am

    Regular wrote:Who else think that Russian sanctions to EU look weak?

    Lets wait for the Winter when Russia will compensate all the money losses due their oil and gas to Europe and raise the costs, the EU can not refuse otherwise they will end up with large portions of their countries in the dark and cold and that would mean people would go out on the streets and protest and they don't want that the most important slave country of USA (Germany) had rebellion against the US outpost which is the most important junction to project US influence and will on Europe.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:15 am

    Seperatists are preparing for their biggest battle so far in Donetsk.
    Winner of the battle will be winner of the war.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-troops-push-toward-rebel-held-donetsk/
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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:46 am

    Yes, this is the sort of stuff I was reading. Hopefully now with the Cauldron largely sorted, Russia has the perfect excse to send LOTS of heavy weapons in. After all, how is anyone to know what is Russian and what is seized junta equipment!

    Unfortunately, after Donetsk and Lug, there isn't really anywhere else to regroup to.
    We're seeing Polish equipment come in, American "consultants". So you have to wonder, why the fuck doesn't Putin pull his finger out and finish off the Nazi junta once and for all.

    PS I still dont understand why there arent attacks on W and Central Ukraine infrastructures and places like Shite Sektor offices, recruitment offices in Lvov etc. And protests/destablisation in places like Kharkov. It would force the junta to send lots of troops away from Donbass. And make the Resistance's job easier.


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    Post  Vann7 Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:56 am

    Obama at a press conference in last friday told the media that the US not only is the most powerful country
    on earth but that is their goal to control the entire world. If this is not Fascism and Hitler 2.0 , i have no idea what is.

    At his press conference last Friday Obama bristled at his critics saying, “Apparently people have forgotten that America, as the most powerful country on earth, still does not control everything around the world. ”  

    This is probably the most destructive administration ever to come into power from US, with a smiling charlatan that
    believe they have some kind of God Given Authority to take control of the planet. The chance of US controlling the world are zero.. The reason is simple.. the fight for your Independence and freedom is a desire of all human beings , and no one with a degree of self stem will allow their nation to become a slave of any other.

    The only sad thing in all this is the future of americans or Europeans is doomed to say the least.. they are setup to
    their own extermination in a war if they continue supporting such Criminal Governments with such policies of controlling the world.. When political leaders believe they are so exceptional and superior to others ,this is an invitation to an open conflict . NATO secretary general today was saying that Every NATO member needs to be ready to activate (fight) for Ukraine.

    This is why Russia will not allow Kiev nazis to win in the east and have to deal later with a nuclear armed Ukraine
    by NATO with Right Sector radicals in controls of dangerous weapons .

     So you have to wonder, why the fuck doesn't Putin pull his finger out and finish off the Nazi junta once and for all.

    This..

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    Because if Russia invades  ,  and wipe the nazis , the US gov can retaliate by totally destroying Ukraine in a false flag event and blame Russia for it. If the CIA believes Russia will take control of Ukraine not only military but politically , they will destroy Ukraine nuclear reactors ,just to blame Russia for it.. and force them pay for the damages.  Also if Russia invade ,they will be forced to send their tanks all the way to kiev ,because Ethnic Russians will be attacked in all Ukraine in retaliation.. Since Ukrainians support is not there at the level of Crimea so it not wise to invade when still a significant number of the population tolerate the current poroshenko government and welcomes joining the EU.  In my opinion is necessary first Ukrainians to wake up first and see the west is not going to help them and they were simply used for others agendas.

    The best way to see Ukraine is that the entire Nation is hostage by the Western mafia elite and terrorist working for them.. with a gun pointing at their heads and Ukrainians not aware of it . The right sector is today the hitmens of the US congress.. and they beat the parents of soldiers who protest against the mobilization. So can Russia invade now,defeat the Nazi junta and CIA terrorist without many civilians killed in retaliation? No. IF Russia invades now ,it will be false flags heaven ,with Russia blamed for it. SO for Russia to invade is required for Ukrainians FIRST to wake up to start peaceful rebellions in ALL cities against kiev and they to take control of their nation by their own and using a peaceful protest.


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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:01 am

    Vann7 wrote:Obama at a press conference in last friday told the media that the US not only is the most powerful country
    on earth but that is their goal to control the entire world. If this is not Fascism and Hitler 2.0 , i have no idea what is.

    At his press conference last Friday Obama bristled at his critics saying, “Apparently people have forgotten that America, as the most powerful country on earth, still does not control everything around the world. ”  

    This is probably the most destructive administration ever to come into power from US, with a smiling charlatan that
    believe they have some kind of God Given Authority to take control of the planet. The chance of US controlling the world are zero.. The reason is simple.. the fight for your Independence and freedom is a desire of all human beings , and no one with a degree of self stem will allow their nation to become a slave of any other.

    The only sad thing in all this is the future of americans or Europeans is doomed to say the least.. they are setup to
    their own extermination in a war if they continue supporting such Criminal Governments with such policies of controlling the world.. When political leaders believe they are so exceptional and superior to others ,this is an invitation to an open conflict . NATO secretary general is recently saying that Every NATO member needs to be ready to activate (fight) for Ukraine.

    This is why Russia will not allow Kiev nazis to win in the east and have to deal later with a nuclear armed Ukraine
    by NATO with Right Sector radicals in controls of dangerous weapons .




    I know some people might have a tantrum if I mention that animal's ethnicity. But let me put it like this. I know Kenyans, or to be exact, INDIAN KENYANS. They're very well connected with the political system in Kenyan. And put simply, the Kenyan political class are nothing but animals. Absolute SCUM. And even lower down, give a Kenyan power, and you have a recipe for disatser.

    Obama is nothing but an animal. Infact Obama is a lot WORSE than an animal.
    He's like his scummy countrymen who set old ladies on fire and make up stories that they're "witches", in a ploy to grab land.

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    Post  a89 Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:22 am

    Hello TR1

    T-64 is the obvious choice because the Ukrainians would, and are, using it in theater. They had plenty in various states of operational readyness before the war.
    Obvious answer is send the T-64 because there is a clear way to deny that they came from Russia. Captured from Ukraine, defected unit, restored from depot, what have you.

    Do you have more details on Russian T-64? A number of them were kept in service for training, but a couple of years ago it was decided to scrap them. You can find the news in Alexei Khlopatov blog.

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    Post  Regular Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:38 am

    Great news. My president is in denial. She said that Lithuania will not feel any effect of Russian sanctions. But I think it will. It will lead to one of the biggert jobloss in 20 years. Country will spiral into recesion. Emigration will wipe whats left of our youth. Doom and gloom. But it's perfect time to get rich for some of us. I do hope a bit of anarchy and economic cleansing like it was in 90ies under blockade.
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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:50 am

    a89 wrote:Hello TR1

    T-64 is the obvious choice because the Ukrainians would, and are, using it in theater. They had plenty in various states of operational readyness before the war.
    Obvious answer is send the T-64 because there is a clear way to deny that they came from Russia. Captured from Ukraine, defected unit, restored from depot, what have you.

    Do you have more details on Russian T-64? A number of them were kept in service for training, but a couple of years ago it was decided to scrap them. You can find the news in Alexei Khlopatov blog.


    Bearing in mind how Russia plans for unrest in fmr Soviet States, I think Russia must have a pretty large number of these in storage. It wasn't that long ago that Russia had over 20 000 tanks. Ok some must be falling apart, but there must be a fair number ready to roll at short notice.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:01 pm

    Russian sanctions shouldn't focus on the EU, they should focus on the countries driving this situation... the US, and the Ukraine itself.

    The Ukraine is already cutting off ties so there is no need to go any further.

    Ties with the US weren't substantial in the first place.

    Ties with the EU were significant and growing, but Russia needs to keep in mind that in a years time the west will be focusing on something else and some things could go back to normal so they don't want to burn bridges... in some cases a small sign saying "temporarily reduced traffic" will suffice.

    Gradual application of these sanctions will also give alternative sources time to step up to the plate from fellow BRICSA countries and elsewhere too.

    One example would be a Chinese civilian airliner company taking people from Europe to Asia and back while being able to take advantage of shortcuts over Siberia because China is not holding Russia under sanctions.

    A great way for Chinese airlines to make more money and remain competitive while offering a better service than EU airlines can offer.
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:31 pm

    GarryB wrote:Russian sanctions shouldn't focus on the EU, they should focus on the countries driving this situation... the US, and the Ukraine itself.

    The Ukraine is already cutting off ties so there is no need to go any further.

    Ties with the US weren't substantial in the first place.

    Ties with the EU were significant and growing, but Russia needs to keep in mind that in a years time the west will be focusing on something else and some things could go back to normal so they don't want to burn bridges... in some cases a small sign saying "temporarily reduced traffic" will suffice.

    Gradual application of these sanctions will also give alternative sources time to step up to the plate from fellow BRICSA countries and elsewhere too.

    One example would be a Chinese civilian airliner company taking people from Europe to Asia and back while being able to take advantage of shortcuts over Siberia because China is not holding Russia under sanctions.

    A great way for Chinese airlines to make more money and remain competitive while offering a better service than EU airlines can offer.


    Russian sanctions must also cover entire EU, because if they sanction russia then they should feel their own medicine, unlike Russia most countries can not be atonomous.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:09 pm

    Situation in Novorossiya

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    Situation in Novorossiya

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:50 pm

    Werewolf wrote:

    Russian sanctions must also cover entire EU, because if they sanction russia then they should feel their own medicine, unlike Russia most countries can not be atonomous.

    yep...

    The EU perfectly understand that they can end the sanctions overnight if they REMOVE the sanctions against
    Russia. Russia goals is to pressure the EU to stop its sanctions against Russia.  But Fruits and agriculture is not big deal to the EU.. it will only affect the Rusophobic States ..ie.. Poland and baltic states. But also Moldavia.

     The real sanctions are being cooked by Medvedev and will not involve Gazprom. simply by banning the entry of all western airliners (USA/EU) in Siberia and beyond Airspace. The speaking of sanctions alone have made shake the earth under the EU and Airfrance and Lifthansa have lost already up to 11% of their share value. If Russia implement sanctions against the western Airliners ,it will really hurt.. because means
    the plane tickets will cost up to 70% more , will be many hours longer and will dramatically put a disadvantage their airliners to others.. it will create also in a chain reaction a significant less Tourism for Europe from ASIA>  Shocked 

    So make no mistake.. this is really worrying for them . and the best thing of all ,that this will have no real impact in Russia economy.. it actually can increase Russia economy ,because passengers who wants the shortest route.. Can simply take a plane To Moscow and from there aboard a Russian airliners and fly to Japan or South Korea.. can anyone imagine such sanctions on South Korea winter olympics ,how much money western airliners will lose?  Smile

    Imagine what will happen if the only way to fly to Euro Asia or western Canada or western America is using Asian airliners? That will be similar like a kick on the balls and immediately after a kick in your teeth breaking them.  Laughing
    Is going to hurt make no mistake. 

    Now if a real Economic WAR continues..Russia can literary Isolate Europe from the major emerging economies.. and western side of North America from Europe.. that is a no fly zone.

    EuroAsia ,Japan ,SOuth Korea ,but also no way to fly to western Canada or Western USA , if CHina and INDIA joins the sanctions. Sanctions like that will be an atomic economic bomb to europe economies. Imagine Airfrance ,Lughthasa ,American airlines ,Delta going bankrupt? How many thousands jobs lost not only in the airlines ,and third party companies but in Tourism to Europe or Tourism to USA?  I really hope Russia do it and truly hurt US and EU  Economies.. even if it is for a few weeks. So they experience first hand their own medicine ,how is to be sanctioned.

    I totally agree with the sanctions.. because the only reason EU do sanctions on Russia is because they  fear US retaliation and believe Russia will be nice and not fight back.  Rolling Eyes   They will have a very positive effect to force
    EU to stop their sanctions on Russia or enter in a major recession and lose millions of jobs. and then have a major revolution on the streets people mad for the EU blindly following US sanctions.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:08 pm

    here in the Netherlands the agriculture industry are already demanding compensation from the government for "catastrophic" losses that they are going to endure by "political games".

    KLM Airways is freaking out of falling KLM stock on the markets and says they can not compete with Asian airlines when/if Russia closes their airspace to western airlines. warning of fatal losses because of re-routing of flights, extra fuel costs and making stops along the way en-route to Asia.

    im watching it all pass by in the mainstream media with a satisfactory smile tough,.... it never crossed their minds here in europe that poking that big russian bear with bullshit sanctions and blaming it of everything would end with the bear turning around and ripping that annoying economic poking arm off.



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    Post  medo Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:13 pm

    I think the next step from Russia could be a ban to sell rare metals to US and EU, where Russia and China posses majority of them. I wonder how long could western high technology industry work without them.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:16 pm

    In other news..
    There are reports that the Ukraine army is on preparations to use Chemical weapons.. honestly nothing of this surprise me any way. Possibly supplied by US and NATO allies . this will make very hard the novorossia forces operations.

    Combat jets seems the ideal way to launch such weapons . Ukie army using many drones now courtesy of NATO and throwing a large number or armored vehicles ,apparently trying to rush to the crash site..  So later the NATO junta can demand Russia to pressure the Rebels for a cease of fire but only when Kiev in control of the Plane crash site.

    So it will not take long.. for another false flag attack to happen , and even chemical weapons being used. But since kiev junta support the US regime ,then it will not matter,because in this planet the most Evil Nations have license to kill indiscriminately and international laws does not apply to them.


    I think the next step from Russia could be a ban to sell rare metals to US and EU, where Russia and China posses majority of them. I wonder how long could western high technology industry work without them.

    I also will like Russia to ban all space technology to US and EU. To force them to pay twice for sending satellites and paralize completely their Exomars mission.. that check this.. Russia will be supplying the transportation ,( Space Rocket) ,The Lander for mars ,And many of the sensors and instruments on board to study the planet.. the EU will just make a rover and an orbiter. Things that Russia absolutely do not need them to make ,since they can do it themselves. albeit the cost will be higher.. Instead Russia should move its space program closer to China and India.. it will be much better and will significantly raise eyebrows in the west for they being left behind in Space development for their negative stance against Russia.


    update.. in more good news..  Very Happy 
    Finally the neonazis bastards that were bombing Russia Border from Ukraine were arrested.. Russia says.  Cool
    18 Ukrainian servicemen, 28 border guards detained in Russia for gunfire 

    It seems they never though they will need to cross the border and ask for help the same people the were shelling ,and And Now the group from were the artillery came all detained for investigation and at least 5 arrested.  Cool 

    http://en.itar-tass.com/world/743968

    Now they only need to capture the ones shelling Russia in other cities near the border.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:00 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
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    Russian sanctions must also cover entire EU, because if they sanction russia then they should feel their own medicine, unlike Russia most countries can not be atonomous.

    yep...

    The EU perfectly understand that they can end the sanctions overnight if they REMOVE the sanctions against
    Russia. Russia goals is to pressure the EU to stop its sanctions against Russia.  But Fruits and agriculture is not big deal to the EU.. it will only affect the Rusophobic States ..ie.. Poland and baltic states. But also Moldavia.

     The real sanctions are being cooked by Medvedev and will not involve Gazprom. simply by banning the entry of all western airliners (USA/EU) in Siberia and beyond Airspace. The speaking of sanctions alone have made shake the earth under the EU and Airfrance and Lifthansa have lost already up to 11% of their share value. If Russia implement sanctions against the western Airliners ,it will really hurt.. because means
    the plane tickets will cost up to 70% more , will be many hours longer and will dramatically put a disadvantage their airliners to others.. it will create also in a chain reaction a significant less Tourism for Europe from ASIA>  Shocked 

    So make no mistake.. this is really worrying for them . and the best thing of all ,that this will have no real impact in Russia economy.. it actually can increase Russia economy ,because passengers who wants the shortest route.. Can simply take a plane To Moscow and from there aboard a Russian airliners and fly to Japan or South Korea.. can anyone imagine such sanctions on South Korea winter olympics ,how much money western airliners will lose?  Smile

    Imagine what will happen if the only way to fly to Euro Asia or western Canada or western America is using Asian airliners? That will be similar like a kick on the balls and immediately after a kick in your teeth breaking them.  Laughing
    Is going to hurt make no mistake. 

    Now if a real Economic WAR continues..Russia can literary Isolate Europe from the major emerging economies.. and western side of North America from Europe.. that is a no fly zone.

    EuroAsia ,Japan ,SOuth Korea ,but also no way to fly to western Canada or Western USA , if CHina and INDIA joins the sanctions. Sanctions like that will be an atomic economic bomb to europe economies. Imagine Airfrance ,Lughthasa ,American airlines ,Delta going bankrupt? How many thousands jobs lost not only in the airlines ,and third party companies but in Tourism to Europe or Tourism to USA?  I really hope Russia do it and truly hurt US and EU  Economies.. even if it is for a few weeks. So they experience first hand their own medicine ,how is to be sanctioned.

    I totally agree with the sanctions.. because the only reason EU do sanctions on Russia is because they  fear US retaliation and believe Russia will be nice and not fight back.  Rolling Eyes   They will have a very positive effect to force
    EU to stop their sanctions on Russia or enter in a major recession and lose millions of jobs. and then have a major revolution on the streets people mad for the EU blindly following US sanctions.


    and then have Lavrov there giving them caviar!
    This is the only thing I cannot stand in Vladimir. He is too cold blooded for my taste. I want to get in and beat the crap out of this morons! Old school, pillaging and looting
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:35 pm

    Euromaidans vs Poromaidans in recent kievs fights..
    Look at the people that EU is supporting with their own economies future.



    And the first signs of a full scale Uprising happening in Transcarpathia region in western ukraine.
    for the law of mobilization of civilians into the army.


    Transcarpathia is one step away from a full-blown riot. We will witness what it will grow into, in the next couple of days. People of the People's Republic of Carpathia are against the military mobilisation of its citizens for Kiev’s fascist war. Citizens of the People's Republic of Carpathia demand autonomy. Everything is being decided right at this moment. Hopefully, a second front will be opened. I think if this was to happen, it would terrify Kiev and force them to take a step back. Kiev doesn’t have the resources to fight the Ruthenians and the Hungarians” - commented Getsko.

    http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/2779-in-transcarpathia-an-uprising-is-born-against-kiev.html

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    Post  Hannibal Barca Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:32 pm

    If this happens................. I offer free vacations  Cool 

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