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    Post  Asf on Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:10 pm

    admin, please, stick this thread

    I found interesting information about joining the Russian army for foreigners!

    The MoD site (in Russian) - the is no such information on the english version of the site!

    Little quiotes:


    I can translate it. Or use Google

    - You can sign a contract if you visit the russian territory legally
    - You have to know Russian language and meet medical and psichological requirements for a given military specialisation
    - You can sign a contract in every military commissariat (a MoD office which work with all categories of citizencs involved in with the military - from conscripts to ex-officers)
    - There are list of documents you must present, ect.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:36 pm

    This thread has a whopping 162 views, that doesn't deserve a sticky.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:45 pm

    Actually I was going to ask you to make it Sticky Vlad, so that hopefully our new members will see it and read it rather than creating lots of new threads asking all the same questions over and over.
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    Post  VladimirSahin on Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:48 pm

    My cousin who is 17 will join the army next year specifically he wants to join the Marines (Russian marines)  Very Happy 
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:50 am

    Tell him to keep a diary and forward it to us... Smile

    Would be interested in hearing about the ADS rifle they are adopting...
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    Post  j.mac on Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:35 pm

    VladimirSahin wrote:My cousin who is 17 will join the army next year specifically he wants to join the Marines (Russian marines)  Very Happy 
    Good luck to him, hope he gets in Smile
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    Post  ThatItalianGuy on Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:33 pm

    Hello lads,
    I'm a 20 year old American citizen currently residing in Georgia. Like all young guys my age I want to be a soldier and prove myself. I joined the U.S Marine Corps 3 months after High School but was medically disqualified due to some vision/eye issues. I went back to my house and lived out of my car/worked construction until I saved up enough money to pay for lasik eye surgery and fix all my issues. Turns out with military downsizing I went back to re-enlist and unfortunately couldn't for some bullsxxt paperwork reason. I left at 19 for the French Foreign Legion and passed all the tests and when Rogue Selection day came around they just didn't take me either. I was curious between the IDF and the Russian military(VDF or Marines hopefully one day) but am rather clueless about it. I mailed them a few times but never got anything back. Can you mates help me out?
    1. Where would I go? Moscow?
    2. Could I actually do this?
    3. Only requirement to have no criminal record/speak russian?
    4. Is the pay really shxt?
    5. Would I lose my American citizenship?
    6. Anyone wanna go with me if possible?
    7. Anything else guys?
    Thank you for all the support and I'm an assistant personal trainer/marathon runner right now so my physical shape is excellent!

     russia  russia  russia  

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    Post  j.mac on Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:00 am

    ThatItalianGuy wrote:Hello lads,
    I'm a 20 year old American citizen currently residing in Georgia. Like all young guys my age I want to be a soldier and prove myself. I joined the U.S Marine Corps 3 months after High School but was medically disqualified due to some vision/eye issues. I went back to my house and lived out of my car/worked construction until I saved up enough money to pay for lasik eye surgery and fix all my issues. Turns out with military downsizing I went back to re-enlist and unfortunately couldn't for some bullsxxt paperwork reason. I left at 19 for the French Foreign Legion and passed all the tests and when Rogue Selection day came around they just didn't take me either. I was curious between the IDF and the Russian military(VDF or Marines hopefully one day) but am rather clueless about it. I mailed them a few times but never got anything back. Can you mates help me out?
    1. Where would I go? Moscow?
    2. Could I actually do this?
    3. Only requirement to have no criminal record/speak russian?
    4. Is the pay really shxt?
    5. Would I lose my American citizenship?
    6. Anyone wanna go with me if possible?
    7. Anything else guys?
    Thank you for all the support and I'm an assistant personal trainer/marathon runner right now so my physical shape is excellent!

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    I don't know much as I'm english but take a look at the "i want to join the russian army" sticky or thread thing. Also can you speak russian?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:59 am

    If you go to this thread:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t3233-the-i-want-to-join-the-russian-army-thread

    And have a good read through I think most things are covered there.

    I will give you a couple of days to read this and find the correct thread and then I will merge this thread with the thread above.
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    Post  ThatItalianGuy on Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:48 pm

    GarryB wrote:If you go to this thread:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t3233-the-i-want-to-join-the-russian-army-thread

    And have a good read through I think most things are covered there.

    I will give you a couple of days to read this and find the correct thread and then I will merge this thread with the thread above.

    Will do, thank you. You serve in the Russian Military Gary?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:57 pm

    It's probably a good idea Gary to merge the British paratrooper thread below with the sticky thread on top...
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    Post  j.mac on Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:09 pm

    Hello everyone, I have asked a question here before about joining the russian army, but I have also been recommended to join the navy. Now I'm pretty sure foreigners can serve in the russian military since 2011, but what is joining the process? is it the same as the army's process, what are the physical/medical requirements? Also I know as a foreigner I most likely wont be put in a combat position until I become a citizen, but what kind of things would I be doing as a foreigner? and once a citizen is there any chances of moving to a combat unit such the naval infantry/marines? and maybe in the long run even a recon/spetsnaz unit?

    Thanks
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    Post  j.mac on Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:46 pm

    j.mac wrote:Hello everyone, I have asked a question here before about joining the russian army, but I have also been recommended to join the navy. Now I'm pretty sure foreigners can serve in the russian military since 2011, but what is joining the process? is it the same as the army's process, what are the physical/medical requirements? Also I know as a foreigner I most likely wont be put in a combat position until I become a citizen, but what kind of things would I be doing as a foreigner? and once a citizen is there any chances of moving to a combat unit such the naval infantry/marines? and maybe in the long run even a recon/spetsnaz unit?

    Thanks
    I see my thread has been moved... Surprised
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    Post  j.mac on Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:40 am

    Asf wrote:I've google-translated the last edition of the Federal law about military service:

    Article 33. Requirements for citizens ( foreigners ) , entering military service under the contract

     1. Citizen ( foreigner ) entering military service under the contract, must possess a state language of the Russian Federation , as well as meet the medical and psychological requirements of professional military service to specific military specialties . To determine compliance with the requirements of a citizen held medical examination and activities professional psychological selection .

     2 . Medical examination of citizens ( foreigners) is conducted in accordance with the Regulations on military-medical examination . According to the results of a medical examination is given on the validity of the conclusion of the citizen ( foreign citizen) for military service in accordance with paragraph 2 of Article 5.1 hereof. For military service under the contract may be adopted citizen ( foreigner ) recognized fit for military service or fit for military service with minor restrictions.

     3 . Arrangements for professional psychological selection conducted by experts on professional psychological selection in the order determined by the Regulations on the military service. According to the results of professional psychological selection shall be made one of the following conclusions about the suitability of the citizen ( foreign citizen) for military service under the contract for specific military positions :
    (see text in the previous edition)
    recommended in the first place - the first category ;
    recommended - the second category ;
    recommended conditional - the third category ;
    not recommended - the fourth category .
    For military service under the contract can not be accepted citizen ( foreigner ) , referred to the results of the professional psychological selection to the fourth category of professional suitability .

     4 . Citizen ( foreigner ) entering into military service under the contract, except for the requirements specified in paragraph 1 of this Article shall also comply with the requirements on the level of :
    education;
    qualifications;
    physical fitness.

     5 . Requirements provided for in paragraphs 3 and 4 of this Article shall be established by the Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation or the head of the federal executive body , in which the present Federal law provides for military service .

    So no, you dosen't have to be from the former USSR to join. Sometimes I hate our stupid bureaucrats
    Thanks this was really helpful, I was just reading through this thread and just seen this, hopefully with my medical I don't have any real medical problems except the mild curved spine which doesnt cause me any pain so I will pass the medical or at least pass with minor restriction, does minor restriction mean I wont be able to go to a combat unit?
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:43 am

    Having just one thread for foreigners wanting to join the Russian military makes sense.

    It prevents thousands of wasted threads where information has to be repeated over and over, and it keeps all the questions and answers in one place.
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    Post  j.mac on Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:49 am

    GarryB wrote:Having just one thread for foreigners wanting to join the Russian military makes sense.

    It prevents thousands of wasted threads where information has to be repeated over and over, and it keeps all the questions and answers in one place.

    Yeah that's fair enough, It's just because this is in the army section I just thought people who may have more knowledge about the navy might not see this, but I understand it saves people repeating this same things over and over Smile
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    Post  Regular on Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:52 pm

    Guys who want to join Russian army, I suggest You to try join separatists in Ukraine first. And I'm not joking.
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    Post  j.mac on Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:39 am

    Regular wrote:Guys who want to join Russian army, I suggest You to try join separatists in Ukraine first. And I'm not joking.
    Why's that?
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:20 am

    Guys who want to join Russian army, I suggest You to try join separatists in Ukraine first. And I'm not joking.

    I would recommend against that... nice spirit, but they would benefit from having trained professionals rather than keen amatures... plus any international volunteers might end up like the guys who helped the Taleban in Afghanistan but didn't change sides when the US did and ended up in Guantanimo...
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    Post  j.mac on Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:26 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Guys who want to join Russian army, I suggest You to try join separatists in Ukraine first. And I'm not joking.

    I would recommend against that... nice spirit, but they would benefit from having trained professionals rather than keen amatures... plus any international volunteers might end up like the guys who helped the Taleban in Afghanistan but didn't change sides when the US did and ended up in Guantanimo...
    I think I would rather study russian and go to russia and try to apply to the russian army that way. I have found a lot of information about joining the russian army as a foreigner.
    It seems the main requirements you need to join is:
    To reside in russia legally
    Have documentation (passport, copy of birth certificate, response from the last place of work/education)
    Background check, have no criminal record.
    Medical exam, you are either medically fit, medically fit with minor restrictions, or medically unfit.
    Psychological exam
    Physical exam
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    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:13 pm

    "The French Foreign Legion is a military service wing of the French Army established in 1831, unique because it was exclusively created for foreign nationals willing to serve in the French Armed Forces. "

    Can be developed such a branch in Russian army also?? it would be very interesting.

    But France have many citizens in their former colonies and also in current oversea territories that would be willing to join
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:40 am

    An important factor regarding the Foreign Legion was that it was very active so those joining often saw real combat at times when other military forces just went through training and exercises. this made the FL attractive to soldiers from countries unlikely to see action.
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    Post  j.mac on Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:55 am

    After reading the the process of joining the army, I have seen during the medical you will either get medically fit, medically fit with minor restrictions or medically unfit. Can someone tell me what kind of things would make me medically fit with minor restrictions, or what kind of things would make me medically unfit. I just want some examples maybe or if you know if my mild curved spine would make me medically fit with minor restrictions or medically unfit.
    My scoliosis is more of a postural thing because I used to slouch sometimes, but I no longer slouch and have corrected my posture unfortunately the mild curve in the spine has remained but doesn't cause any problems and it's not something that's really noticeable unless really by a medical professional.
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    Post  Karkota on Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:36 am

    So now that foreigners can officially join the Russian army, is there any list available of what units/types of units they can and cannot join? Or would all contract units be available, as foreigners have to be contract soldiers?
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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:38 pm

    Karkota wrote:So now that foreigners can officially join the Russian army, is there any list available of what units/types of units they can and cannot join? Or would all contract units be available, as foreigners have to be contract soldiers?

    here is one unit..



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