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    Post  lyle6 Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:31 am

    If its operating with NATO ROE sure, it will do great. Twisted Evil

    Define a safe zone that any heat source outside of it that so much as moves without waving an IFF around gets ventilated.

    Makes sense for guarding nuclear installations, not so much winning hearts and minds...

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:17 am

    Funny you say that... when was the last war the US tried to win hearts and minds?

    They just go for the oil.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:20 pm

    Define a safe zone that any heat source outside of it that so much as moves without waving an IFF around gets ventilated.

    While that would certainly be a bad idea to deploy that in Ukraine it would be perfect for Finland Poland or Pindostan.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:35 am

    Kinda have to agree with you there... if HATO is going to ignore Ukrainian citizens being shelled and killed by Kiev for the better part of the last decade and claims Russia moving in to stop them makes Russia the enemy and funds and weapons and ammo is sent to the criminal regime in Kiev to kill Russians AND any Ukrainian civilians that are with them or don't try to fight them then you have to say it is total war with HATO and therefore HATO countries can't expect Russia to take steps to preserve innocent lives in any extension of this conflict into HATO territory.

    Russia does not want to kill Ukrainians because most of them don't want this war and probably can't mentally process how they got here... with the US and EU and HATO cheerleading them into a slaughterhouse but closing the doors behind them and staying outside... you blame yourself for being so gullible, but the US and EU and HATO also are responsible too... and they are getting rid of a lot of cold war era crap and they think upgrading their military in the process, but the cost is going to be enormous... even just replacing weapons and equipment let alone the stores of ammo they will need to accumulate just to fight a single week.

    The new weapons and ammo and equipment is going to mean their funding for their military is going to have to massively increase... at a time when they don't pay their nurses enough, or their teachers, or anyone else really...

    I rather expect a lot of HATO countries are going to do the drone thing and claim a ground based robot can replace a tank... which will be interesting... we have seen how successful they have been replacing Cold War era tanks so far.
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    Post  PhSt Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:43 am

    https://rutube.ru/video/358eda9ec7449c79206a3a4386a22352/


    The War in Ukraine is a good opportunity to test Russia's latest unmanned ground drones. would be nice to see a couple of these taking out NATO equipment.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:43 pm

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    ⚡The "Remdizel" enterprise showcased a prototype of the unmanned armored vehicle "Zubilo" for assault groups at the international military-technical forum "Army-2023."

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:02 am

    A few more pics and info of this.

    Chisel", an unmanned vehicle for supporting assault squads.

    The device can work on air targets, lightly armored vehicles and enemy manpower. It has the ability to deliver the equipment, ammunition and weapons necessary for the assault group, as well as evacuate the wounded.

    The length of this land drone is 7465 mm, width - 2550 mm, height - 2100 mm. Clearance - 320 mm. The curb weight is 13300 kg, and the total weight is 16000 kg. Load capacity - 2700 kg. Engine power - 350 hp The maximum speed on the highway is 100 km / h.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:37 am

    I think I would like it better if it had a better system for ammo, so instead of the normal 50 round box positions on each side of the gun, they had an ammo feed leading round to the back of the mount with a huge box area split in half for a few thousand rounds that turns with the gun so you can fire more than 100 rounds before having to reload...

    Design the mount so you can swap out different guns from PKTs to Kords and KPVs and 30mm and 40mm grenade launchers to this mount with two single barrel 23mm cannon or perhaps the 23mm gun mounted on the current Hinds with the 23x115mm shells.

    Maybe even up to a 82mm auto mortar like Vasilek.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:52 pm

    I have always though the Vasilek to be the ideal fire support gun, unlike small calibre autocoannon and grenade launchers it can destroy obstacles and cover while having an excellent combination of effective blast radius and fire rate, the only other thing in it's class is the 57mm dual presure cannon from the Epocha turret.

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:37 pm

    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.638cffa9-64de2cef-5deb5282-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1559266/2023-08-15/rostekh-napravit-modernizirovannogo-robota-sapera-v-novye-regiony

    The upgraded MGR-4 "Bumblebee" minesweeper robot developed by the High-Precision Complexes Holding (part of Rostec State Corporation) will be sent to new regions of the Russian Federation for trial operation at the end of the Army-2023 forum. This was announced on Tuesday, August 15, by Vladimir Artyakov, First Deputy General Director of Rostec.

    Artyakov noted in a conversation with TASS that the development of the Kovrov electromechanical plant will be " pilot operation in real conditions."

    The minesweeper robot is designed for clearing territories from anti-personnel mines and conducting video monitoring of the environment with a radio control signal range of up to 1000 m.


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    Russian specialists have developed a technology for moving the Marker combat robot in fog and smoke conditions. This was announced on Wednesday, August 16, by the executive director of the research and production association (NGO) "Android Technology" Evgeny Dudorov on the sidelines of the forum "Army-2023".

    "When driving through smoke, the construction of a point cloud from laser lidar stops, the optical channel is ineffective, but Marker continues to recognize the surrounding space by using the technology of integrating the technical vision of other available passive sensors," Dudorov explained to reporters.

    According to him, when creating the robot, experiments were also conducted aimed at checking the functioning of the platform in offline mode. It turned out that the hourly consumption of the complex is 3.5 liters, which is enough for 50 hours of battery life or 1000 km of cross-country running.

    Dudorov also added that the developed autonomous driving technology can be used to evacuate the wounded from the battlefield, automatically deliver and unload cargo.

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:07 pm

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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:23 am

    These are civilian based cleaning robots but are fitted with radar and LIDAR to do their job.

    LIDAR technology would be an excellent short range method of detecting things like drones with low radar and IR signature without being detectable over enormous distances like radar.



    These ground based vehicles are not the only drones fitted with LIDAR, airborne drones also use it for mapping terrain and obstructions with great levels of precision in 3D.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:56 pm

    The Russian army will begin testing the modified Zubilo unmanned armored vehicle in April, RIA Novosti was told by the press service of the company that developed this vehicle, Remdizel JSC.

    “Testing of the Zubilo unmanned platform will begin in several military units of the Russian Armed Forces in April. The vehicle was modified based on the customer’s wishes. In particular, its weight was reduced and the vehicle’s maneuverability was increased,” the company reported.

    The unmanned armored platform "Zibilo" on a serial KamAZ chassis is designed to support assault groups, transport ammunition, transport cargo and wounded people, as well as recharge radio stations and quadcopters.

    As the developer of this machine, the chief designer of Remdizel JSC (Naberezhnye Chelny) Igor Zarakhovich, told RIA Novosti, in the future “Zubilo” can be mass produced in order to minimize human participation in battles in dangerous sectors of the front.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:56 am

    So essentially this is a light vehicle that moves with infantry that can carry ammo and supplies, that you can plug things in the charge while on the battlefield like PDAs and drones and night vision equipment and radios etc.

    If someone gets injured you can put them on this thing to take them to the rear so they can get medical attention and while it is back there it could pick up more ammo if needed.

    Infantry combat uses a lot of hand grenades and disposable rocket launchers and other equipment and being able to send this vehicle back to friendly positions would be useful.

    It is shown with a twin barrel 23mm cannon but could just as easily have a remote weapon station with a PKT or Kord HMG or 30mm or 40mm grenade launcher and rather more grenades than an infantry unit could normally carry.

    The low velocity and area effect of grenades like this will allow you to hit enemy positions.

    A general infantry drone is one thing but a ATGM team or a Kord team or 30mm or 40mm grenade launcher team with a couple of drones could deploy on the front line and send a drone up to look for enemy positions out of line of sight. The curved trajectory of the grenade launchers means that targets up to 2km away could be engaged easily with the rounds going over hedge rows and forests and landing on enemy troops moving forward.

    A Pintle mount on this drone would radically minimise the spread of grenades and a drone launched straight up could view the enemy 2km away so fire can be corrected and would be devastating and they would have no idea where it was coming from... unless they saw your drone popping up 2km away.

    Even 23mm cannon fire with HE rounds could do the same job.

    The light twin 23mm cannon firing the reduced power 23 x 115mm rounds could launch volleys of 50 explosive shells in a one second burst... the rounds are similar in size to HMG ammo.

    They could certainly develop APFSDS rounds if they wanted to which would be devastating.

    The 23 x 115mm round is based on the 14.5x114mm anti tank rifle round and KPV HMG/light cannon. A 23mm cal version would allow more pressure and higher velocities with the increased calibre.

    Such a round would need to be fired on its own because it would not hit anywhere near any other 23mm cartridge, so a mixed belt would be pointless, but of course you would use APFSDS round against armoured targets and light vehicles while HE rounds would be used against soft targets so putting them in separate belts makes sense anyway.

    A stabilised RWS with all weather optics would make it rather effective.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:04 pm

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    The Novosibirsk Design Bureau "Spectrum" is developing the robotic platform "Ezhik-RSZO" equipped with a reactive volley fire system (RSZO). Executive Director of the organization, Andrey Bratenkov, reported this to TASS.

    "The Bureau continues to expand the lineup of robotic platforms 'Ezhik.' The next modification will be equipped with RSZO for prospective 600g cumulative-fragmentation munitions. The RSZO, which will be mounted on the 'Ezhik,' will be capable of six launches. The armor penetration of the munition is 200 mm. Essentially, this will be quite a formidable machine capable of approaching a strongpoint and destroying it, as well as enemy armored vehicles approaching Russian borders," the developer stated.

    According to him, mini-RSZO is planned to be used at short distances. "In open terrain, spotting a small green machine crawling towards you is not an easy task. For example, during the night, it's unlikely that a strongpoint will be prepared to repel an attack with mini-RSZO," Bratenkov added.

    The platform will be produced in two versions. "We plan to produce two modifications - tracked and wheeled. Both versions have their pros and cons. We are considering how to combine both forms to have a wheeled base, but if necessary, people could change it to a tracked one. KB 'Spectrum' strives for modular platforms, standardizing our products as much as possible so that the control of drones - both aerial and ground - is carried out through the same control panels, via compatible communication channels, so that our soldiers don't have to carry a bunch of relay equipment," the specialist added.

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    Nasty, because of the lack of some crewmen the vehicle is very low when the launcher is moved down.
    Hard to spot and it can wait for days and nights and operate on a mouse click.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:13 am

    A new photo of Russian engineering has appeared on the Internet - a robotic complex with a PKT machine gun. - ISZ reports

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    Post  Hole Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:49 pm

    Before the SMO there were 10+ models of robots either in testing or already in service.
    Where are those?
    Instead of using them soldiers come up with those crappy looking ad-hoc models.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:17 am

    Those robots are likely still being developed but sometimes the guys in the field have a better understanding of what they need.

    I mean if someone stands up and starts firing with a PKM machine gun then the enemy are going to try to stop him as fast as they can... now depending on the level of body armour he is wearing that could be shots to the chest or to the gut or to the face or to the legs... the point is that eventually the bullets are going to get a soft spot and he will go down and try to get help or be dead.

    If a tiny wheeled vehicle like the one pictured above rolls up and starts blazing away... where do you shoot it and with what?

    It is probably too small to hit with your average RPG and even ATGMs will struggle to hit such a tiny target... you could shoot the gun or the wheels but you might have to put a huge number of rounds into it before you stop it firing... and then another one pops up... or it popped up when the first one popped up but it didn't fire... it was just using its thermal camera and special optics to locate enemy firing positions so they could be marked on a map and it could then start firing at those positions and then three more little vehicles pop up and start firing.

    Pretty soon the other side learns to just keep their heads down, so then you start sending these drones forward into enemy positions to make them respond... but if you coordinate the attack with several of these plus drones in the air and even vehicle sitting back from the line observing with their modern optics then the enemy positions will be revealed and can be attacked.

    They have a range of remote weapon stations they are putting on vehicles with stabilised weapons accurate out to 2km or more depending on which weapon is mounted.

    The drone above looks small and light and might be used for flanking or overwatch as your platoon moves forward providing support with magnfied all weather optics and a stabilised fully supported machinegun.

    Some of the bigger models with 30mm cannon turrets looked a bit like overkill but in urban areas it would be rather useful against targets hiding behind log bunkers and sandbags...

    I would say slightly bigger drones that can carry vastly more ammo might be useful for sustained fire support and also to carry the platoons belted ammo so their load is lighter and all the ammo is ready to fire.

    The use of AI for aerial drones to find and identify targets could be taken further with ground based drones to move forward to find some of those targets and deal with them. A PKT has a longer heavier barrel than the standard PKM and it should be capable of reasonable accuracy out to significant ranges. On a solid mount with stabilised all weather magnified optics it should be a rather power support weapon on a modern battlefield with tracks that are wide enough to stop it sinking.

    In fact you could make it amphibious so it wont get stuck and can zip around in conditions where nothing else can move on the ground...
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    Post  Hole Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:56 am

    Those robots are likely still being developed
    Platform-M and Uran-9 were put into service officially.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:56 am

    People see the robots with guns and think they are what will be normal but I would say the most useful robot would just be a mule type robot that follows troops around carrying heavy stuff like water and ammo and perhaps a heavy support weapon, but also charger ports to charge up sights and radios and other electronic equipment, and also to carry jammers etc. Even being able to take injured soldiers back to be treated. And of course mine clearance drones would be valuable too... something you can send first... and attract enemy fire so you can work out where they are...
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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:32 pm

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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:42 am

    I hope that robot with the grenade launcher has arms that dig into the ground to support it because those grenade launchers generate a lot of recoil and jumping around during firing makes it rather less useful as a support weapon.

    I rather suspect they would operate at least two of these drones... one for the grenade launcher and one for a big pile of ammo because the ammo is rather bulky and heavy and awkward to carry... but a very powerful and effective weapon to make the enemy put their heads down while you advance so well worth having.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:39 am

    GarryB wrote:I hope that robot with the grenade launcher has arms that dig into the ground to support it because those grenade launchers generate a lot of recoil and jumping around during firing makes it rather less useful as a support weapon.

    I rather suspect they would operate at least two of these drones... one for the grenade launcher and one for a big pile of ammo because the ammo is rather bulky and heavy and awkward to carry... but a very powerful and effective weapon to make the enemy put their heads down while you advance so well worth having.

    It is simply transporting a manned grenade launcher.
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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:46 am

    No, the robot can shoot it.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:38 pm

    Just saw the video and it actually looks rather good. It does not move around too much when firing and does not drop stabilisers to fire.

    I was very wrong in this case it actually looks rather good:

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