Russia - USA Relations

flamming_python wrote:
If you're going to blame all the world's intrigues and ills on a political current that's exclusive to an ethnic group accounting for less than 0.2% of the world's population; then yes I'd argue, that you have an anti-semitism problem.

You could start by understanding that most Zionist are not even Semites. Then, go and take a look at the proportion of "Jews" (observe that I have NOTHING against Judaism, nothing at all) among the elites, for instance in the US media... look if they are a 0.2% or rather orders of magnitude above that. Of course they are not the only ones at the very top, but they have a good share of the top spot, no doubt about it. Just check man, the world is full of easily available facts that prove beyond doubt that Zionism was and is extremely powerful, for the reasons explained in the other posts.

If you are fooled into self-censorship by completely absurd and debunked claims like "anti-semitism" then you are just carrying the water for an elite that is not a legit representation of Jews (rather probably their worst enemy ever) and that is just another predatory class built, as it is the norm, upon some supposed racial / religion superiority or any other self serving BS.

LMFS wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
If you're going to blame all the world's intrigues and ills on a political current that's exclusive to an ethnic group accounting for less than 0.2% of the world's population; then yes I'd argue, that you have an anti-semitism problem.

You could start by understanding that most Zionist are not even Semites. Then, go and take a look at the proportion of "Jews" (observe that I have NOTHING against Judaism, nothing at all) among the elites, for instance  in the US media... look if they are a 0.2% or rather orders of magnitude above that. Of course they are not the only ones at the very top, but they have a good share of the top spot, no doubt about it. Just check man, the world is full of easily available facts that prove beyond doubt that Zionism was and is extremely powerful, for the reasons explained in the other posts.

If you are fooled into self-censorship by completely absurd and debunked claims like "anti-semitism" then you are just carrying the water for an elite that is not a legit representation of Jews (rather probably their worst enemy ever) and that is just another predatory class built, as it is the norm, upon some supposed racial / religion superiority or any other self serving BS.

Heeereeeeee we go!

flamming_python wrote:Heeereeeeee we go!

Yes there I go. Now let me make an easy question that maybe you can answer:

Does hating Nazis mean you hate Germans?

LMFS wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Heeereeeeee we go!

Yes there I go. Now let me make an easy question that maybe you can answer:

Does hating Nazis mean you hate Germans?

The ol' argumentum ad hitlerum

For your counterpoint to be valid though I'd have to accept what I claim to be an anti-semitic premise in the first place (or at least a daft one); namely that the zios control a vast militaristic empire sowing chaos and destruction across the world.

If I did then yes, comparing them to the Nazis would be apt.

But I don't see any real evidence of that. It's just a political movement across an ethnic group accounting for 0.2% of the world's population that has leveraged influence first in the British Empire and then after that in Washington to get up to a little bit of the good ol' ethnic cleansing and colonization to carve out a new nation state; but on a pretty minor scale and scope all things considered. You know when compared to what took place to create something like the United States of America to begin with not to mention a hundred nations before and since.

And yes there are many prominent zionists and Israel supporters in Washington, and yes many Jews among the American elite with a variety of agendas, but it's a small cog in the wheels of empire when all is said and done. Obama was pretty close to dumping Israel altogether or at least reducing its level of privilege in return for the Arabs', Erdogan's Muslim Brotherhood favour and the prospect of a deal with Iran. Trump reversed that policy but we may see a return to it again under Biden, who's to say.

"Victoria ‘F**k the EU’ Nuland to make a comeback in Biden’s cabinet – media"


https://www.rt.com/usa/511687-nuland-tapped-biden-administration/

William Burns has been named a nominee for the director of CIA, William Burns is a anti Russian asshole.

The guy is not the brightest light so to say.

par far wrote:William Burns has been named a nominee for the director of CIA, William Burns is a anti Russian asshole.

Which one wasn't?

PapaDragon wrote:

par far wrote:William Burns has been named a nominee for the director of CIA, William Burns is a anti Russian asshole.

Which one wasn't?

Yeap.

Pompeo was anti Russian, last guy was, so was last guy before that. So on so forth.

Oh well.

If he is a real moron, then hey, all good for Russia.

GarryB wrote:It is the ones that pretend to be your friend that do the real damage... like Boris Yeltsens best friend Bill Clinton... so many forget how quickly the Clintons went from loving the money they could make in Russia to hating Putin... possibly something to do with Putin turning off the free money taps... no wonder they are so pissed.

I forget who the senior level Clinton cabinet official was who openly bragged of making "Yeltsin eat shit". With friends like those...

Future head of the CIA: "Russia became strong again much earlier than we expected"

https://yandex.ru/turbo/kp.ru/s/daily/27227.5/4353099/?promo=navbar&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

Kiko wrote:Future head of the CIA: "Russia became strong again much earlier than we expected"

https://yandex.ru/turbo/kp.ru/s/daily/27227.5/4353099/?promo=navbar&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

For them to say this while asking Russians to vote Navalny instead of Putin does not make much sense does it?

Kiko wrote:Future head of the CIA: "Russia became strong again much earlier than we expected"

https://yandex.ru/turbo/kp.ru/s/daily/27227.5/4353099/?promo=navbar&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

Here it is, full on conflict with Russia to legitimize the new American Regime.

Belarus is gonna be lit on fire.
Expect stupid crap to go down in Syria and Iran.

This guy is of course smart. But so are many of them who get the position. He of course knows Russia well hence why he is head of CIA. He will obviously have contacts within Russia itself.

There is an opportunity here. He may very well be someone who may listen as well. And also, it gives Russia's counter intelligence agency an opportunity to find out who their contacts are.

There will be conflict but it won't be hot between the two. CIA director is one thing. He isn't head of foreign policy. He will be used to gain Intel on Russia.

Don't assume Biden has a free hand. Who knows what dirt Russia has on what went on in the Ukraine. Russia still has a lot of deep connections with Kiev even if not with the current regime. They have eyes everywhere.

Depends on who you give it to. If you give it Donnies supporters it could be a powder keg. After all the stuff they leaked about the DNC gave donnie the election.

Ray McGovern was on a podcast recently and he said that Bill Burns was as good as we could ask for , for US/Russia relations.

Remember. Mike "Lets kill Russians" Morell was in the running for the post.

Here's the interview. Edit: it was actually this interview where he talked about Burns. About an hour in

https://youtu.be/esreqIyQGI4

Backman wrote:Ray McGovern was on a podcast recently and he said that Bill Burns was as good as we could ask for , for US/Russia relations.

Remember. Mike "Lets kill Russians" Morell was in the running for the post.  

He may be a good choice for US/Russia relations. He has a lot of backchannel contacts in Russia and in global democracy, so he can cross check any facts for accuracy and find out who is lying to him.

mnztr wrote:

Backman wrote:Ray McGovern was on a podcast recently and he said that Bill Burns was as good as we could ask for , for US/Russia relations.

Remember. Mike "Lets kill Russians" Morell was in the running for the post.  

He may be a  good choice for US/Russia relations. He has a lot of backchannel contacts in Russia and in global democracy, so he can cross check any facts for accuracy and find out who is lying to him.

Don't get your hopes up, he gets put in and Ray McGovern will have a hard time explaining his (largely predictable) actions. He will 'toe the line' like everyone else put in to that position.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

mnztr wrote:

Backman wrote:Ray

Remember. Mike "Lets kill Russians" Morell was in the running for the post.  

He him.

Don't get your hopes up, he gets put in and Ray McGovern will have a hard time explaining his (largely predictable) actions. He will 'toe the line' like everyone else put in to that position.

He will probably get Flynn'd in the first week.