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    Post  PhSt on Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:37 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Atlet (Tigr 2)

    What happened to the Volk? ins't that supposed to be the successor to the Tigr?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:03 am

    PhSt wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Atlet (Tigr 2)

    What happened to the Volk? ins't that supposed to be the successor to the Tigr?

    That one has been discontinued for nearly a decade

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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:13 pm


    Atlet:

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    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:18 pm

    Russia’s next-generation armored vehicle to enter state trials in spring


    The Atlet is currently completing preliminary tests


    MOSCOW, December 4. /TASS/. The latest Atlet armored vehicle developed by Military Industrial Company will enter state trials in the spring of 2020, the company’s press office told TASS on Wednesday.

    "The Atlet is completing preliminary tests and the stage of state trials is scheduled to begin for it in the spring of next year. One prototype is currently in disassembly and will probably go for state trials. The second prototype will undergo tests for its resistance to shelling and explosions," the company said.

    Company CEO Alexander Krasovitsky told TASS in August that the prototypes of the Atlet armored vehicle would undergo preliminary trials on the testing grounds of the R&D Center of Automotive Equipment (Bronnitsy, the Moscow Region), the R&D Center of Armored Vehicles (Kubinka, the Moscow Region), Russia’s Defense Ministry and the NAMI Automobile Testing Center (the Dmitrov district in the Moscow Region).

    The trials will involve the Atlet armored vehicle’s special-designation three-door (ASN) and five-door multipurpose (AMN-2) prototypes. Representatives of the customer, R&D institutes and defense industry enterprises will take part in the trials, the chief executive said.
    Atlet family of armored vehicles

    The next-generation Atlet armored vehicles have been developed by Military Industrial Company on order from Russia’s Defense Ministry as part of the Atlet R&D work. The Atlet armored vehicle was unveiled for the public at the Army-2019 international arms exhibition outside Moscow in late June.

    The Atlet vehicles feature a 4x4 wheeled platform and are designated to carry personnel and military cargoes providing the required level of protection, as well as to tow trailers and mount armament, military and special hardware.

    In their standard configuration, the vehicles are equipped with anti-trauma seats for all crewmembers and with the air conditioning system. The armored vehicles’ ballistic protection in its basic configuration corresponds to the 2nd level by general technical standards.

    As compared to the Tigr armored vehicle produced by Military Industrial Company, the Atlet features an increased lifting capacity of up to 1,600 kg and anti-mine resistance enhanced threefold, a more powerful YaMZ-5347-24 Russian-made diesel engine with a maximum capacity of 240 hp.

    https://tass.com/defense/1095441
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:50 pm

    Not sure if this is the right thread for this.

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    Post  Hole on Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:03 pm

    The same turret as on the Taifun-VDV.

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    Post  flamming_python on Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:08 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Not sure if this is the right thread for this.

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    Does a border guards vehicle really need that level of firepower?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:26 pm


    Depends where the border is
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    Post  Isos on Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:32 pm

    I think the tigr-M were not enough armed in the encounters with the US in Syria. Some such vehicles with a big gun aren't too much. In that particular case they had btr-80 but the it was one or two per group and such vehicle can be easily destroyed...
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:04 am

    Doesn't matter what gun is fitted, its armour means most things will penetrate it...

    Of course a good 30mm gun means it can sit further back from the engagement and fight which maximises the performance of the armour...
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    Post  Regular on Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:10 pm

    GarryB wrote:Doesn't matter what gun is fitted, its armour means most things will penetrate it...

    Of course a good 30mm gun means it can sit further back from the engagement and fight which maximises the performance of the armour...

    Yes, but this thing would be perfect in stepes where most of the work is done to fight drug and human trafficets. It should be able to disable most of the vehicles at distance and shouldn't be in a vicinity to any RPG. I think Russian border guards do have heavy MRAPs where distances are close and personal
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    Post  kvs on Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:27 pm

    Suppose NATzO wanted to invade Russia without exposing its invasion forces to tactical nuking. The only option they would have is to
    infiltrate with very diffuse force concentrations much like guerrilla operations staged from the Baltics, Finland, Belorus, Ukraine, and
    even the poorly populated Arctic coast. Having equipment that can engage NATzO guerrillas is rather worthwhile since swatting flies
    with a sledgehammer is inefficient. Russia's "militarization" of the Arctic is not just to secure shipping, it reflects the reality
    that with a shrinking ice cover (specifically its thickness even in winter) makes NATzO military operations along Russia's soft northern
    border much easier.

    The above is the only modern option for conventional forces engagement. If one assumes that the USA can stage a preemptive first
    strike then there is no point for a mass invasion in the first place. But a successful first strike is a Technicolor (TM) delusion
    which leaves viable only dirty tricks. This includes colour revolutions, coups, and infiltration of "jihadis" as was done in Syria
    and elsewhere. Russia needs to be prepared for low grade infiltration warfare and not just epic tank battles.

    Border control is of paramount importance.

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    Post  Isos on Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:53 pm

    What they should have.

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    Post  Regular on Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:10 am

    kvs wrote:Suppose NATzO wanted to invade Russia without exposing its invasion forces to tactical nuking.  The only option they would have is to
    infiltrate with very diffuse force concentrations much like guerrilla operations staged from the Baltics, Finland, Belorus, Ukraine, and
    even the poorly populated Arctic coast.  Having equipment that can engage NATzO guerrillas is rather worthwhile since swatting flies
    with a sledgehammer is inefficient.   Russia's "militarization" of the Arctic is not just to secure shipping, it reflects the reality
    that with a shrinking ice cover (specifically its thickness even in winter) makes NATzO military operations along Russia's soft northern
    border much easier.  

    The above is the only modern option for conventional forces engagement.  If one assumes that the USA can stage a preemptive first
    strike then there is no point for a mass invasion in the first place.  But a successful first strike is a Technicolor (TM) delusion
    which leaves viable only dirty tricks.   This includes colour revolutions, coups, and infiltration of "jihadis" as was done in Syria
    and elsewhere.  Russia needs to be prepared for low grade infiltration warfare and not just epic tank battles.  

    Border control is of paramount importance.

     

    Border guards in Russia have very interesting history. They fought in many conflicts and wars.

    Now they are mostly involved in fighting drug traffickers and islamists and most of the time - they are the same - drug dealer terrorists... Russia does have plenty of border control missions in Caucasus neighbouring countries.

    But when it comes to foreign infiltration, RosGvardija would make life much easier for border guards. They are supposed to work together together and provide muscle.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:09 am

    Russia is a big country... why not all of the above.... Twisted Evil
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    Post  George1 on Mon May 25, 2020 11:51 pm

    Defense firm delivers over 2,000 Tigr armored vehicles to Russian, foreign customers


    A wide range of various remote-controlled combat modules can be mounted on Tigr armored vehicles, according to the developer

    MOSCOW, May 25. /TASS/. Russia’s Military Industrial Company has delivered over 2,000 Tigr armored vehicles to domestic and foreign customers since 2005, company CEO Alexander Krasovitsky told TASS on Monday.

    "Since the serial production of Tigr armored vehicles started at the Arzamas Machine-Building Plant [part of the Military Industrial Company] in 2005, over 2,000 vehicles have been built in various configuration and delivered to Russia and 16 foreign countries," the chief executive said.

    The Tigr family of armored vehicles currently includes the Tigr-M multi-purpose vehicle, the Tigr-M SpN special-purpose vehicle, the Tigr automotive armored chassis and the Tigr special armored vehicle. In addition to ready-made armored vehicles, the Military Industrial Company also delivers the Tigr self-propelled armored chassis for creating wheeled hardware on its basis, Krasovitsky added.

    A wide range of various remote-controlled combat modules can also be mounted on Tigr armored vehicles, the chief executive said.

    "We installed the Israeli combat module with a large-caliber machine-gun, the French station with a 20mm gun and several Russian modules, including those with a 30mm automatic gun. However, only one remote-controlled combat module has been accepted in the Russian Army, specifically, the Arbalet-DM. The Tigr with this module has been officially accepted for its delivery to the Russian Armed Forces and is being delivered to the troops," Krasovitsky said.

    Tigr armored vehicles in hotspots

    Russian-made Tigr armored vehicles have been employed in various hotspots for over ten years, the company’s chief executive said.

    "Throughout all this time, the vehicles’ high performance characteristics have made it possible to successfully carry out a lot of special operations and save hundreds of lives of Russian soldiers and officers," he said.

    There were cases when the Tigr vehicles returned after accomplishing combat assignments with dozens of bullet marks on their armored hull and glass, without halting a single time in the route and bringing back all the personnel alive, Krasovitsky said.

    "Thanks to their high speed characteristics, the enemy never succeeded in hitting Tigr vehicles from grenade launchers," the company’s head added.

    The Tigr armored vehicle has been further improved, taking into account the results of its combat operation, Krasovitsky said.

    "The improvements were based on the analysis of suggestions and wishes of Russian servicemen who employed the vehicle in combat conditions," the chief executive said.

    https://tass.com/defense/1160073

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