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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:34 pm

    Sure, let's see the intersting stuff:

    http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6711/167229822.54/0_c8a4c_ce54b8e4_XXL.jpg

    Forces involved in the check, groups, units, etc.
    Personnel= 160,000
    Helicopters and planes = 130
    Ships= 70
    Armored vehicles and automotive equipment= 12,000

    http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9542/167229822.54/0_c8a4d_7f9ab114_XXL.jpg

    Task of relocating forces:
    30 VTA planes used
    167 flights
    8.5 thousand personnel flown in
    415 units of equipment
    700 tons of supplies

    562 railway cars
    482 units of equipment
    320 tons of supplies

    7 barges used to transport the 64th OMSBR.

    http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9364/167229822.54/0_c8a50_25c7e1b8_XXL.jpg

    Long Range aviation - 12 planes, 11 sorties.
    Fighter aviation - 24 planes, 36 sorties
    Bomber aviation - 18 planes, 28 sorties
    Shturmoviki - 14 planes, 26 sorties
    Transport aviation - 30 planes, 167 sorties
    Army Aviation - 32 helicopters, 72 sorties
    UAVs - 8 airframes, 22 sorties


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    Post  Hachimoto on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:41 pm

    anyone know what kind of mission Su-34 performed in this exercise?
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    Post  Pugnax on Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:05 am

    Wow that turret belongs to what westerners  originally called the T-72M2 (super Dolly Parton) in the early 90s. It was thought to be the most heavily armoured Soviet turret system in existence,how in err we were. I built 5 or 6 1/35th scale  Dragon model kits of this tank and bought into the maskirovka whole heartedly.


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    Post  TR1 on Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:30 am

    Well the T-72B did have the thicker armor than any T-64 variant, and was even thicker (slightly) than T-80B.
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    Post  Flanky on Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:25 pm

    New mineclearing vehicle:
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    Post  TR1 on Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:14 pm

    Wow nice find Flanky.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=inadA-Lx9mE

    If anyone wants some comedy my favorite 8-8-8 related video, the BMPs crushing Georgian Police blockade being a close second.
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:49 am

    TR1 wrote:Wow nice find Flanky.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=inadA-Lx9mE
    lol1 lol1 
    Is this for real?

    Still an open contest between this and the Saakashvilli cowering from imaginary missile incident though. I was giggling about that one for days.
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    Post  TR1 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:11 am

    Yeah Georgian news TV played this as an "intercepted transmission" LOL
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    Post  Viktor on Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:27 pm

    New modular barracks with heating and electricity for up to 50 people

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    many more pictures

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    Post  TR1 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:19 am

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    Post  Viktor on Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:07 pm

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    Post  Austin on Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:37 pm

    Dmitry Rogozin: Russia to invest $ 500 billion in 2020 to euro upgrade its armed forces
    http://www.itar-tass.com/c134/862867.html

    CHISINAU, September 3. / Correspondent. Itar-Tass /. Russia to invest $ 500 billion in 2020 euros in upgrading the armed forces, said Deputy Prime Minister, the special representative of Russian President Dmitry Rogozin on Transnistria speaking at an international conference in Chisinau, dedicated to the discussion of the problems of European integration of Moldova.

    "Russia to invest $ 500 billion in 2020 euros in upgrading its armed forces and $ 100 billion for technical re-equipment of military enterprises," - said Rogozin. However, he stressed that "the agenda for the XXI century Russia is now in the Asia-Pacific region, where there are China and India, and other fast-growing major economies, and the United States."

    "In the European Union this too well aware. This is why we believe that we need to instantly and immediately, without wasting time, to invest in the development of the eastern territories. We will be moving there raketostroitelnuyu and the aviation industry," - said Rogozin. Speaking about the crisis in Syria, he criticized the behavior of the West in the Islamic world.

    "The West is fighting with the Islamic world, like a monkey with a grenade. This is certainly backfire in the long run, because the situation is very complicated. Seeing the Anglo-Saxons saber weapon on the borders of Syria, understand the natural desire of sovereign countries to strengthen their defenses," - said Deputy Prime Minister .
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    Post  Zivo on Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:46 pm

    TR1 wrote:Vitaly delivers some sexy T-72B3 photos:

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    http://77rus.smugmug.com/Military/Tank-Biathlon-2013/i-PgGFgsc/0/O/TankBiathlon2013-09.jpg
    What's with the bizarre ERA placement in front of the commanders hatch?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:24 am

    likely to cover exposed roof area from diving top attack weapons...
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    Post  Zivo on Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:38 pm

    GarryB wrote:likely to cover exposed roof area from diving top attack weapons...
    War isn't a beauty contest, but that just looks sloppy.
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    Post  TR1 on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:51 pm

    I'd imagine it is due to the curvature of the commanders hatch. Does look a bit weird.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:58 am

    War isn't a beauty contest, but that just looks sloppy.
    You need to look carefully at it and have a think about the internal structure before you decide...

    Regarding the top... the gap between the front ERA and the top ERA is irrelevant as that area of armour wont be hit from the front and even if it could be hit a glancing blow the armour is likely thick enough that it is thicker than it is sloped so the penetrator would gouge the surface and not actually penetrate into the vehicle.

    With regard to top attack weapons it looks like there is a gap at the front, but if you think about the structure of the armour the front armour is just armour... there is no internal cavity there that is where the heavy frontal armour it to protect the tank from frontal attacks so there is no point in putting ERA to protect that. The area around the crew hatch needs ERA because that is where the crewman sits.

    Regarding the gap in the frontal armour... ERA is cheap because all pieces are the same shape and size and can be mass produced in enormous numbers. The uneven curve of the frontal armour means there has to be gaps... otherwise you end up with a jigsaw with specific pieces for specific mounting points... which also means different tanks will need different pieces too... the fact is that ERA is only in case you are hit... in other words if APS fails then ERA has a chance and if both fail then the main armour is still there... the front turret is actually the heaviest armoured part of most conventional tanks and the place that probably needs ERA the least... it is top and sides and rear that really need it in fact, though having it everywhere doesn't hurt.
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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:27 am

    Austin wrote:Dmitry Rogozin: Russia to invest $ 500 billion in 2020 to euro upgrade its armed forces
    http://www.itar-tass.com/c134/862867.html

    CHISINAU, September 3. / Correspondent. Itar-Tass /. Russia to invest $ 500 billion in 2020 euros in upgrading the armed forces, said Deputy Prime Minister, the special representative of Russian President Dmitry Rogozin on Transnistria speaking at an international conference in Chisinau, dedicated to the discussion of the problems of European integration of Moldova.

    "Russia to invest $ 500 billion in 2020 euros in upgrading its armed forces and $ 100 billion for technical re-equipment of military enterprises," - said Rogozin. However, he stressed that "the agenda for the XXI century Russia is now in the Asia-Pacific region, where there are China and India, and other fast-growing major economies, and the United States."

    "In the European Union this too well aware. This is why we believe that we need to instantly and immediately, without wasting time, to invest in the development of the eastern territories. We will be moving there raketostroitelnuyu and the aviation industry," - said Rogozin. Speaking about the crisis in Syria, he criticized the behavior of the West in the Islamic world.

    "The West is fighting with the Islamic world, like a monkey with a grenade. This is certainly backfire in the long run, because the situation is very complicated. Seeing the Anglo-Saxons saber weapon on the borders of Syria, understand the natural desire of sovereign countries to strengthen their defenses," - said Deputy Prime Minister .
    As much as people ride Rogozin, the man is right. Military is ever so important, and is a major driving force for Russian.technologies, industrial strength and integrity, as well as the ultimate protection of both Russia and its immediate allies. The west is playing with fire and it is in Russias best interest to build its military strength even more. Good to hear they are moving specific mic facilities to far east. Will help offload development as well as give more in jobs and infrastructure development.

    I hope there will be massive modernization with key allies like kazakhstan and Belarus as they will help keep integrity among the boarders.
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    Post  Viktor on Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:38 pm

    Russian Army Received over 100 Tanks in 2013 - Defense Ministry

    MOSCOW, September 8 (RIA Novosti) - Over 100 modernized tanks have entered service with the Russian armed forces in 2013, the Defense Ministry reported Sunday, when Russia celebrates Tank Crewmen’s Day.

    “The tank forces have received more than 100 modernized tanks this year as part of efforts to implement rearmament plans,” the ministry said in a statement.
    “By 2020, the share of modern armored vehicles in the forces should reach 70 percent,” it said.

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    Post  Mindstorm on Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:24 am


    Wide area anti Visual/IR/Radar aerosol dispenser ТДА-2К successfully tested , for the first time, in masking completely -effectively causing it to disappear from TV ,radar and thermal sensors - and for a a very big military installation (a main airfield with its surrounding area).


    http://vpk-news.ru/news/2250


    http://vpk.name/news/96717_voennyii_aerodrom_sdelali_nevidimyim.html



    This is a major accomplishment because ,up to this time, this kind of wide area/very wide band masking and interference equipment has been mainly utilized (in reason of the long time persistence of the aerosol screen at 100-200 meter altitude) to cover from long range reconnaissance air and space based assets and to defend them against large scale of inertial guided cruise missiles or glide bombs with terminal radar/laser/IR homing ( JASSM,TLAM-IV, JSOW, GBU-24 Paveway, Blu-108 with CBU-97 etc...) Army's Armored and Motorized division in march or long range Air Defense systems repositioning.


    Very good work.


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    Post  Austin on Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:27 pm

    Good New Indeed and Nice find Mindstorm
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:02 pm

    Mindstorm wrote:
    Wide area anti Visual/IR/Radar aerosol dispenser ТДА-2К successfully tested , for the first time, in masking completely -effectively causing it to disappear from TV ,radar and thermal sensors - and for a  a very big military installation (a main airfield with its surrounding area).


    http://vpk-news.ru/news/2250


    http://vpk.name/news/96717_voennyii_aerodrom_sdelali_nevidimyim.html



    This is a major accomplishment because ,up to this time, this kind of wide area/very wide band masking and interference equipment has been mainly utilized (in reason of the long time persistence of the aerosol screen at 100-200 meter altitude) to cover  from long range reconnaissance air and space based assets and to defend them against large scale of inertial guided cruise missiles or glide bombs with terminal radar/laser/IR homing ( JASSM,TLAM-IV, JSOW, GBU-24 Paveway, Blu-108 with CBU-97 etc...) Army's Armored and Motorized division in march or long range Air Defense systems repositioning.


    Very good work.


    All well and good, but what are its health implication (is it poisonous)??
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    Post  Zivo on Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:04 pm

    It would be interesting to see a video of the test.

    All well and good, but what are its health implication (is it poisonous)??
    That's what worries me. Metallic particles in the air are not exactly healthy.
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    Post  Viktor on Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:14 pm

    Zivo wrote:That's what worries me. Metallic particles in the air are not exactly healthy.
    They are much heltier than "JASSM,TLAM-IV, JSOW, GBU-24 Paveway, Blu-108 with CBU-97" Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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    Post  Zivo on Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:40 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    Zivo wrote:That's what worries me. Metallic particles in the air are not exactly healthy.
    They are much heltier than "JASSM,TLAM-IV, JSOW, GBU-24 Paveway, Blu-108 with CBU-97" Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
    I was think about that, but didn't say anything Razz 

    Most military obscurants consist mainly of hexachloroethane, and usually some proprietary materials to give it better concealing properties against a wider spectrum of threats. I'm in no way a chemist, but according to my amateur interpretation of the US Environmental Protection Agency's findings, Hexachloroethane isn't horribly lethal, but it doesn't appear to be a good thing to breathe in on a regular basis. I guess it's also not a good idea to ingest the residue that it forms. Oh, and it's also a carcinogen.

    It would probably be a good idea to have a simple respirator and keep exposed skin covered when in the vicinity of this chemical.

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