2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

magnumcromagnon wrote:

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Viktor wrote:Yup, another confirmation.

Defense Ministry: "Coalition-SV" will receive a new precision-guided munitions

Self-propelled artillery installation "Coalition-SV" has no analogues in the world. It is designed to defeat enemy personnel, its military equipment and fortifications. "Coalition-SV" is equipped with an autonomous power supply unit, the means to ensure a comfortable living crew, satellite navigation systems, secure communication and data communication and efficient information display system for the crew. Installation is capable of hitting targets at a distance of 70 kilometers.

Shhhhh, don't tell the resident primadonna (the guy who likes to insult everyone in every thread) about this...he'll have your tar and feathered for speaking this. According to him it's impossible to have artillery that can reach 70 km, even though the South African's and their G6 spg's have had artillery rounds capable of hitting 67 km for quite some time. The psuedo-intellectual will tell you it's impossible...then proceed to scream, yell, and insult like a child lol!

Remember, anything good is propaganda.

Anything bad is true but overstated.

And according to him Russia's military mismanaged more money than the US's military (which mismanaged over $8 trillion), even though that's a mathematical impossibility considering the difference in defense spending between the two countries over a 20 year time period. Of course when actually pressed for a source to back up his claim, he always went silent.

And he will always know better than us, because he has been to Russia. And no one else has.

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Viktor wrote:Yup, another confirmation.

Defense Ministry: "Coalition-SV" will receive a new precision-guided munitions

Self-propelled artillery installation "Coalition-SV" has no analogues in the world. It is designed to defeat enemy personnel, its military equipment and fortifications. "Coalition-SV" is equipped with an autonomous power supply unit, the means to ensure a comfortable living crew, satellite navigation systems, secure communication and data communication and efficient information display system for the crew. Installation is capable of hitting targets at a distance of 70 kilometers.

Shhhhh, don't tell the resident primadonna (the guy who likes to insult everyone in every thread) about this...he'll have your tar and feathered for speaking this. According to him it's impossible to have artillery that can reach 70 km, even though the South African's and their G6 spg's have had artillery rounds capable of hitting 67 km for quite some time. The psuedo-intellectual will tell you it's impossible...then proceed to scream, yell, and insult like a child lol!

Remember, anything good is propaganda.

Anything bad is true but overstated.

And according to him Russia's military mismanaged more money than the US's military (which mismanaged over $8 trillion), even though that's a mathematical impossibility considering the difference in defense spending between the two countries over a 20 year time period. Of course when actually pressed for a source to back up his claim, he always went silent.

And he will always know better than us, because he has been to Russia. And no one else has.

Werewolf wrote:

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Viktor wrote:Yup, another confirmation.

Defense Ministry: "Coalition-SV" will receive a new precision-guided munitions

Self-propelled artillery installation "Coalition-SV" has no analogues in the world. It is designed to defeat enemy personnel, its military equipment and fortifications. "Coalition-SV" is equipped with an autonomous power supply unit, the means to ensure a comfortable living crew, satellite navigation systems, secure communication and data communication and efficient information display system for the crew. Installation is capable of hitting targets at a distance of 70 kilometers.

Shhhhh, don't tell the resident primadonna (the guy who likes to insult everyone in every thread) about this...he'll have your tar and feathered for speaking this. According to him it's impossible to have artillery that can reach 70 km, even though the South African's and their G6 spg's have had artillery rounds capable of hitting 67 km for quite some time. The psuedo-intellectual will tell you it's impossible...then proceed to scream, yell, and insult like a child lol!

Remember, anything good is propaganda.

Anything bad is true but overstated.

And according to him Russia's military mismanaged more money than the US's military (which mismanaged over $8 trillion), even though that's a mathematical impossibility considering the difference in defense spending between the two countries over a 20 year time period. Of course when actually pressed for a source to back up his claim, he always went silent.

And he will always know better than us, because he has been to Russia. And no one else has.

How dare you...I'm offended, laughing is for paid Putin agents and propagandists who probably advocates persecuting gays! Unlike our friends the Saudi's, who never persecute gays, women, religious and ethno-religious minorities who are all treated equally, in our beloved Saudi secular democracy which opposes extremist ideology, which is why we in the West never criticize their human rights record...

collegeboy16 wrote:god, ive been using google translate for slavrunes when i shouldve been using yandex translate instead.

Quite clearly you can't put content of a two liter bottle (Russian) in a half of a pint glass (English) while the contrary is quite easy.
So a translator based on a sinthetic i.e. old indo-european language have no problem handling standard european ones, less even an almost totally analytic language like english has become, while the contrary is a pain in the butt.

Good side by side photos. The crew is giving a good reference for hull height of T-90, 2S19 and 2S35









from here https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/said-aminov/album/466834/view/2276194

So it can shoot at a range of 70 kms? Impressive... I guess the projectile has to be something rocket assisted? Or is it just that much more initial muzzle velocity?

Rate of "Coalition" have increased by half

Rate of latest self-propelled artillery systems "Coalition-SV" increased by half compared with earlier counterparts, said RSN Chief of Missile Forces and Artillery of Russian Land Forces, Major-General Michael Matveevsky.
Compared with existing systems rate increased by 1.5 times. This allows us to perform fire missions in real time. For a minute or two may make a fire attack and leave the position said General Matveevsky.

http://www.rg.ru/2015/05/18/sau-site-anons.html

Serial production in 2016

Developer: serial deliveries "Coalition-SV" will begin in 2016

The thing is Navies need a 152mm or 155m gun to hit at ranges of 100 miles or more. However, to do that the projectiles will need a lot of propellant. This extra propellant will reduce the room for sufficient explosives.

This is why me think the 152 mm/ 155mm naval gun is still work in progress.

Why do they need a gun to hit targets at 100 miles?

No matter what the range the smaller the calibre the smaller the shell... going for a 203mm gun actually makes it easier to get better range... not harder.

The biggest problem with guided projectiles is that they can be jammed.

So some sort of home on jam capability might be useful?

Will appreciate if you can elaborate on this development.

Based on comments about achieving 70km with Coalition in 152mm calibre, with the use of new propellants, a very long barrel, and EM assistance.

The shock and the weight of the 203mm will strain the ship.

A 15,000 ton plus cruiser should have no problems at all operating a 203mm gun mount... water is excellent for absorbing recoil...

Alexandr1233211 wrote:
>XXI century
>Hand loading
>Hand eject
>Trigger by rope
>Cleaning barrel after every shot like it is XIX cannon
Holy shit. This is USSR 50-x technology, maybe, but not modern high-quality weaponary.

bring back crusader!!!

Crusader was a complete and utter failure... They need the PzH.

Viktor wrote:Serial production in 2016        

Developer: serial deliveries "Coalition-SV" will begin in 2016

Read the other day that 12 had been delivered this year for the Parade and then testing and training.

GarryB wrote:
If an enemy enters your territory and runs out of ammo they could simply pick up a local weapon and ammo...

Indeed.. but they will not have the training how accurately fire with new weapon..so if they are in the middle of a war ,there will be no time to train.. how the aim works.. how to clean it..  Thats the whole point of training soldiers again and again and gain in one specific weapon.. for maintainance and better use of it.  

But if the enemy capture ammo storage depot.. without weapons , that is completely different to the one they use.. then it will be useless for them..  Thats the whole point GarryB of Russia using
different caliber than NATO . Is not because they cannot officially use the one NATO use.. but because is far better to use munition that is not compatible with NATO hardware. If NATO capture tank ammo.. it will be useless with the Caliber the guns of their tanks .. same with their rifles.
But they cannot "simply pick" an enemy tank and do what you want.. if there is NONE TANK to pick up or no Rifle to pickup and all they got was ammo but from a different caliber of the one they need. .. it will be useless. This is very simple 101 tactics.

Armata T-14 operation also ,seems will not be easy to pick up either by any foreigner and start using it without training.. According to their own developers takes years to train in armata ,and this have its positive side ,that far outweights the disadvantages.. means the enemy will never be able to use your best weapons against you in short time.. and in case of Armata maybe never..if require password to start the engine or special tricks...that only trainned Russian soldiers in that  tank knows.  Russia latest rifles ammo ,tank ammo and artillery ammo ,use different caliber than NATO ,not by coincidence. but is done by design. To make it less
easier for potential adversaries to re-supply using your own ammo or military hardware.
Fortunately also Russia will not get rid of their older tanks like T-90 and T-75.. until they build enough Armatas to replace their soviet hardware.

Developer: Tests of "Coalition-SV" are going according to plan

New ACS exceeds not only domestic predecessors, but also "a number of indicators," German PzH 2000, said Advisor to General Director of Corporation "Uralvagonzavod" Alexander Romanovsky

MOSCOW, November 19. / TASS /. Tests self-propelled artillery "Coalition-SV" are on schedule, with no gaps, said Nov. 19 general director of TASS Advisor Corporation "Uralvagonzavod", which developed a fighting machine, Alexander Romanovsky.

"According to the" Coalition-SV "tests go as planned, worked out a timetable for testing ... We have everything goes according to the approved schedule, no delays," - a spokesman said.

He did not specify when it is planned to complete the test. "According to the content and the time of their termination need to ask the customer," - said Romanovsky.

According to him, the new Russian howitzer is superior not only domestic predecessors, but - "a number of indicators" - German PzH 2000 that military experts are often called the best self-propelled guns in the world. By what criteria were compared fighting vehicles, Romanovsky did not elaborate. Meanwhile, earlier in the Defense Ministry stated that "Coalition-SV" superior PzH 2000 2.5-3 times, also explaining about what exactly the parameters in question.

Romanovsky said that "Uralvagonzavod" continues to overhaul and modernization of existing artillery systems, and to develop promising technology. So, he said, deeply modernized self-propelled howitzer "MSTA-SM" has acquired a completely new quality in terms of both shooting accuracy and comfort of the crew.

Advisor to the head of the "Uralvagonzavod" is convinced that the emergence of shock drones and other means does not reduce the role of the artillery. "We artillery have the opportunity to work at any time, in any place, in any weather, at any theater of war. Today, the combat capabilities of artillery increased significantly, especially in distance, accuracy and agility. And if you talk straight, not least its advantage - it is cheap, as the artillery - the cheapest way to fire damage today, "- said the agency.

"Coalition-SV" with a gun caliber 152 mm was presented to the public at the Victory Parade in Moscow on May 9, along with other examples of promising Russian armored vehicles - on platforms "Armata", "Bumergang", "Kurganets." Earlier it was reported that the mass artillery unit will go to the army since 2019.

There's some new information on 2S35, for me at least;

T-14 can send targeting directly to the 2S35, which can then, obviously, fire at the requested target. Some sites are also claiming it has sat communication systems.

"Russia’s Burevestnik Research Institute, part of Uralvagonzavod weapons manufacturer, is developing a wheeled and a tracked version of the Koalitsiya-SV 152mm self-propelled artillery system under the same time schedule, the Uralvagonzavod press office told TASS. "The work on the wheeled version is proceeding under the same time schedule for the tracked version of the self-propelled artillery system," the press office said.

According to the press office, the preliminary trials of the prototypes are currently under way. "The general customer will make a decision on accepting the Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled artillery system for operation after the state trials of the prototypes are completed and the documentation is assigned the O1 lettertype," the press office said. "A decision on the volumes of its serial production and purchase will be made within the same period," the press office added. Several Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled artillery systems were unveiled at the Victory Day Parade in Moscow on May 9, 2015 together with other advanced Russian-made armored vehicles. Deputy Chairman of the Russian Military and Industrial Commission Board Oleg Bochkaryov said earlier the Russian Armed Forces would start to receive Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled artillery systems in 2019.

The Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled artillery system is expected to fire new 152mm separate loading projectiles. The system has a remote-controlled combat module with a 12.7mm machine gun mounted on top of its turret and 902B Tucha smoke dischargers on its sides.



The version of the 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled artillery system unveiled in May 2015 was mounted on the T-72/90 tank chassis. However, the system is expected to be installed on the Armata platform. Upgraded projectiles extend the Koalitsiya-SV system’s firing range up to 70 kilometers (43.5 miles) Unlike its foreign analogs, the Koalitsiya-SV system has a bigger ammunition load. All actions of the system’s crew members are shown on displays of the single control unit. The pneumatic loading mechanism enhances the Koalitsiya-SV system’s firing rate. The system can select a projectile type and deliver fire automatically. In 2013, a project of wheeled self-propelled howitzer using the same turret and armament as the Koalitsiya-SV was presented during the Russia Expo Arms defense exhibition. A drawing of the project was unveiled, showing an 8x8 KamAz truck chassis fitted with a turret and armed with one 152mm cannon. According, KamAZ spokesman Oleg Afanasyev, the new howitzer will be based on the four-axle KamAZ-6560 truck. The new howitzer will reportedly be fully automatic, meaning that the crew will remain in the armoured cab for the loading and firing sequence."

Source: http://www.armyrecognition.com/november_2015_global_defense_security_news_uk/russia_to_develop_a_new_wheeled_version_of_koalitsiya-sv_152mm_self-propelled_howitzer_tass_12211152.html

it is similar to the American M-109A6, or is it the A9? Both seems to have the same electronic, but from their own origins. The most newest is the computerized C3I-System in connection with GPS/GLONASS. And also the newest smart ammunition is part of it.

ult wrote:

Nice!

ult wrote:

Seems like suspension and other components regarding stability and dampening are dealing with recoil alot better than they used to on MSTA-S.