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    Yak-130: News

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    Post  RTN Tue May 05, 2020 2:08 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote: Furthermore in Soviet times most nations that received those kind of airplanes never paid soviet union  for them, but got them practically for free.

    Do provide that list.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Tue May 05, 2020 2:26 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote: Furthermore in Soviet times most nations that received those kind of airplanes never paid soviet union  for them, but got them practically for free.

    Do provide that list.

    Maybe you're not smoking any more but you ain't smoking any less.


    I do not smoke and never did, maybe you do and I suggest you do not attack other forum members ....

    Anyway, it is fully off topic, but, as you should know if you followed recent Soviet and Russian foreign policy...Russia wrote off the debt of many nations that bought weapons from soviet union and failed to pay.

    In the last 20 years Russia wrote off 32billions dollar of Cuban debt, 20 billions from various African states, 9.5 billions from Vietnam, a similar amount from  Nord Korea, 11 billions from Mongolia and about 10 billions from Syria


    https://www.indepthnews.net/index.php/the-world/russia/3077-a-glimpse-of-russian-policy-of-writing-off-african-debts


    The aid was primarily through weapon deliveries, African countries owed nearly $20 billion.


    https://www.rbth.com/history/329403-countries-own-russia-money

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/10/russia-writes-off-cuban-debt

    https://www.uawire.org/lavrov-explained-forgiven-debts-to-other-countries

    “A few years ago, we wrote off several billion dollars in loans to African countries that were granted during the Soviet era, which we would never receive because in legal terms, it is very hard to prove the currency rate at which these funds were borrowed,” Lavrov explained.

    Some loans were granted to organizations that fought for independence and were not state actors. In this case, it is impossible to demand payment of the debts, as they were not initially based on any international legal agreements.

    According to estimates of independent experts, Russia has lost $140 billion dollars as a result of this unrecoverable debt.
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    Post  RTN Tue May 05, 2020 6:04 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:maybe you do and I suggest you do not attack other forum members

    Mostly cubans.

    I'm not surprised that you couldn't provide a list of aircraft that the Soviet Union distributed for free around the world. Instead you provided a list of countries whose debt was written off by Russia. Agreed. But that's because those countries borrowed money from Russia to finance their economy and eventually failed to repay. So Russia had to write it off as bad debt.


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    Post  mnztr Tue May 05, 2020 6:54 pm

    Yes the Yak vs MIG21 depends..on the pilot. If the MIG pilot is dumb enough to get into a slow turning fight he might loose. But if he presses his speed, climb and altitude advantages he can always escape and reengage.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Tue May 05, 2020 7:17 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:maybe you do and I suggest you do not attack other forum members

    Mostly cubans.

    I'm not surprised that you couldn't provide a list of aircraft that the Soviet Union distributed for free around the world. Instead you provided a list of countries whose debt was  written off by Russia. Agreed. But that's because those countries borrowed money from Russia to finance their economy and eventually failed to repay. So Russia had to write it off as bad debt.



    In italian we say "ci sei o ci fai?" That means are you stupid (or in this case are you a troll) or are you playing stupid?

    Anyway, all of these countries received military equipment (in many cases also military aircrafts) and never paid for them.


    I do not have time to lose for a troll, but just looking at the list of historical mig21 operators  here

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-21_operators

    You can see that among the countries mentioned above
    Vietnam received hundreds of aircrafts

    Vietnam People's Air Force. The VPAF received the first of its 20 or 30 'MiG-21F-13' fighters in 1965; 30 'MiG-21PFL's, a special variant for Vietnam, were delivered in 1966 (some historians refer to this variant as 'MiG-21PFV' (V = Vietnam), but this is denied by the MiG OKB); either 100 or 110 'MiG-21PFM' were delivered starting in 1968; sixty 'MiG-21MF' were delivered around 1970; several batches of 'MiG-21bis' izdeliye 75B were delivered starting in 1979(...)


    Mongolia received 44 mig 21 between 1977 and 1984,

    Cuba, Syria, North Korea also received many mig 21 (and some of them are still operative), and several African (and south asian) countries also bought (and never paid) mig21 aircraft (I did not include here other african countries thatbought them later second hands from poland or other soviet satellite nations).
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    Post  Isos Tue May 05, 2020 11:54 pm

    USSR gifted lot of countries with huge numbers if hardware. But that wasn't the same situation as today. They were a communist country, benefits were not a goal and the world was bi-polar, by doing so they kept those countries away from US hands.

    Now they can dream about having Migs as a gift, even Serbians had to pay for some modernization in order to receive for free only 6 old mig-29A.
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    Post  Azi Wed May 06, 2020 12:07 am

    Isos wrote:USSR gifted lot of countries with huge numbers if hardware. But that wasn't the same situation as today. They were a communist country, benefits were not a goal and the world was bi-polar, by doing so they kept those countries away from US hands.

    Now they can dream about having Migs as a gift, even Serbians had to pay for some modernization in order to receive for free only 6 old mig-29A.
    Yugoslavia was a socialist country, but not a real friend of USSR Wink They paid for every single piece of equipment ;D
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    Post  Isos Wed May 06, 2020 1:14 am

    I was talking about last year delivery of mig 29. They were given for free but serbia had to pay for their modernization which is not really a modernization.

    Times when fighters were gifted are long gone. Now you pay for everything.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:41 pm

    What Yak-130R's would look like with Kab-100's:
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    Post  Isos Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:14 pm

    I was trying to imagine what a su-34 or a su-25 could look like with those munition for drones. They are pretty good for precision strikes with <1m precision.

    With such precision no need for 100kg warhead.

    They could theorically carry tens of them per pylon.

    Even this yak-130 could carry some 10-15 of them. This kab-100 is a 100kg class bomb but they have smaller ones in the class of 25-50kg.
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    Post  LMFS Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:04 am

    Isos wrote:I was trying to imagine what a su-34 or a su-25 could look like with those munition for drones. They are pretty good for precision strikes with <1m precision.

    With such precision no need for 100kg warhead.

    They could theorically carry tens of them per pylon.

    Even this yak-130 could carry some 10-15 of them. This kab-100 is a 100kg class bomb but they have smaller ones in the class of 25-50kg.

    True, the issue is having the persistence to use dozens of precision bombs on separated targets... those tactical bombers don't really have it, but something like an Okhotnik definitely should...
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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:54 am

    Have to keep in mind that the Yak-130 is a small aircraft so it is difficult to keep scale in perspective...
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    Post  franco Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:49 am

    Flight desk: naval pilots will receive new combat training Yak-130

    The Ministry of Defense plans to conclude a large-scale contract for the supply of training aircraft with a digital control system

    The Yak-130 training aircraft were given the command to take off. Izvestia learned the exclusive details of the contract for the purchase of the latest training and combat vehicles. Until 2027, the Ministry of Defense should receive more than two dozen of them. It is planned that the newly released "one hundred and thirties" will go into service with the Russian Navy. They will train, among other things, pilots of carrier-based aircraft, experts noted. In addition to performing training tasks, the Yak-130 is capable of using weapons, including modern high-precision bombs and missiles.

    Warm-up for deck ships

    The implementation of the contract for the construction of the Yak-130 signed in 2020 has already begun. Based on the schedules for the purchase of components (available to Izvestia), it is planned to be completed in 2027. Sources of Izvestia in the military department said that the question of where to send the newly released combat training aircraft is currently being worked out. It is expected that the novelty will go to the Naval Aviation, where it will be used to train pilots of naval air regiments fighters. True, according to the interlocutors of the publication, the decisions can be changed and the machines will be handed over to the Aerospace Forces.

    In the previous decade, over 110 Yak-130s had already been purchased to complete the training regiments of the Aerospace Forces, which made it possible to fully meet their needs. The naval aviation has not yet updated its fleet with modern combat training aircraft.

    In August last year, the head of the military department, Sergei Shoigu, announced his intention to conclude several large contracts for combat aircraft. According to him, by the end of 2020, the Ministry of Defense planned to purchase 25 Yak-130 and 21 Su-30SM2 fighters. The total value of the two contracts was supposed to exceed 100 billion rubles.

    The price of the aircraft for the Russian Armed Forces has not been announced. In 2019, Vietnam purchased 12 Yak-130s for over $ 350 million.The vehicles are also in service with the Air Forces of Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Myanmar and Laos.

    “The Yak-130 is a transitional version of the aircraft from the simplest training models to full-fledged modern fighters,” military historian Dmitry Boltenkov told Izvestia. - Its cockpit can simulate the behavior of different types of machines: Su-24, Su-30 and others. The Aerospace Forces bought a large batch of Yak-130. Maritime pilots, with their vast fleet of equipment, also need such a "desk" to train pilots faster. Flying over the sea requires special skills, especially at night. If necessary, the Yak-130 can also be used as combat aircraft. They are capable of performing the functions of light attack aircraft and scouts.
    Open architecture

    The two-seat Yak-130 was developed to replace the outdated and worn out training L-39. The key advantage of the new machines is the unique digital control system. In combination with large multifunctional screens and an indicator on the windshield, it allows you to simulate the instruments and even the behavior in the air of several aircraft models at once, both fighters and bombers.

    The equipment makes it possible to train pilots not only to fly 4+ generation aircraft, but also for the latest Su-57 fighters. Two powerful AI-222-25 engines allow practicing maneuvering in any subsonic flight modes.

    More than 110 aircraft have already been purchased under several contracts for the Russian Aerospace Forces. Initially, the aircraft were built at the Sokol Aviation Plant in Nizhny Novgorod. Then their serial production was transferred to the Irkutsk Aviation Plant. There they organized production of up to 20 units per year.

    Russia originally developed the aircraft jointly with Italy. It was planned that he would be actively supplied abroad. Therefore, the Yak-130 was immediately designed according to the principle of open architecture. It can be adapted to use both Russian and foreign ammunition, and can also be easily upgraded.

    Light stormtrooper

    In 2019, the head of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), Yuri Slyusar, said that the company was already creating a version of a deep modernization of the Yak-130, which would turn it into a predominantly combat aircraft. According to him, training opportunities will also be expanded, which will make it easier to adapt the machine to a specific customer and region of use.

    Aiming and navigation equipment already allows you to practice on the Yak-130 not only aerobatics, but all types of combat missions. At nine points of suspension, the aircraft can lift up to 3 tons of conventional or guided munitions. It was tested, among other things, with four 500-kilogram KAB-500Kr corrected bombs under the wing.

    The aircraft can also use modern R-73 air-to-air missiles with infrared homing heads. This makes it possible to practice the elements of close combat and shooting at air targets in practice.

    The impressive combat load made it possible for some states, including Belarus, to use the Yak-130 as an affordable strike aircraft. Their pilots train not only to attack ground targets, but also to break through enemy air defenses. At the annual Aviadarts competitions, Belarusian crews successfully compete with Russian Su-25 and Su-25SM pilots.

    In the version being developed by the UAC, the light attack aircraft Yak-130 will receive an expanded set of weapons. The aircraft has already been tested with a laser rangefinder-designator, which is necessary for the use of some types of "smart" bombs. It was also reported that a new radar station and an optical-electronic sighting and navigation complex were being created specifically for him.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:38 pm

    In the cockpit of the Yak-130 combat training aircraft
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