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    Next Generation Rocket Angara: News

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    Post  Scorpius Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:48 pm

    Okay, guys. In the public domain, there are many photos showing the use of temperature control equipment on the departed "Angara". roscosmos "mistakenly" posted a notification that the upper stage with the load was taken to the "orbit of existence". Фnd you still think it was a mass-dimensional layout? Smile
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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:15 am

    Scorpius wrote:Okay, guys. In the public domain, there are many photos showing the use of temperature control equipment on the departed "Angara". roscosmos "mistakenly" posted a notification that the upper stage with the load was taken to the "orbit of existence". Фnd you still think it was a mass-dimensional layout? Smile

    We are seeing only what our brains can process and not the glorious actuality. sunny
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    Post  GarryB Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:44 am

    Maybe it was a 200 megaton bomb prototype for a Poseidon doomsday drone... a good place to store it... parked in geostationary orbit above the US of A perhaps?

    Perhaps a double weapon with a 1MT precursor charge that is released ahead of the main warhead... they both plummet down on Yellowstone national park... 1MT ground penetrating warhead blows open a big hole in the ground for the 200MT bomb to fall in to and explode to get things going...

    Or they just might not tell us... which is also fine.
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    Post  George1 Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:38 pm

    The Angara-5 rocket will be launched for the first time with a spacecraft on board

    https://en.topwar.ru/180096-raketu-angara-5-vpervye-zapustjat-s-kosmicheskim-apparatom-na-bortu.html

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:26 pm

    During the launch, we put about 2 tons of 420 kilograms into geostationary orbit, but our calculations on the remaining fuel components show that we can put more than the calculated loads on the Angara-A5 from the Plesetsk cosmodrome into geostationary orbit – with a mass of more than 2.5 tons.
    Big interview about the Angara rocket: http://www.khrunichev.ru/main.php?id=3&nid=3832

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    Post  PhSt Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:12 am

    Development of Angara-A3 medium-class rocket possible, but not obvious - Roscosmos

    MOSCOW, March 6. /TASS/. The Angara-A3 medium rocket may be created, Roscosmos Director General Dmitry Rogozin wrote on Facebook on Saturday.

    "As for Angara-A3, its production is possible, but not obvious, as Soyuz-5 with a payload of 17 tonnes is going to appear soon in this (medium) class," Rogozin said.

    In April 2019, Rogozin said at a news conference that Roscosmos had never worked on the Angara-A3 medium-class carrier rocket. It had been previously reported about the Angara-A3 project in Russia. However, on April 1, 2019, Rogozin announced it would not be developed due to the Soyuz-5 launch vehicle project with similar payload capabilities.

    The Angara is a family of next-generation Russian space rockets. It consists of light, medium and heavy carrier rockets with a lifting capacity of up to 37.5 tonnes. The new family of rockets uses environmentally-friendly propellant components. So far, Russia has carried out only two Angara launches, both of them from the Plesetsk spaceport: a light Angara-1.2PP blasted off in July 2014 and its heavy version lifted off in December 2014.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:41 am

    PhSt wrote:Development of Angara-A3 medium-class rocket possible, but not obvious - Roscosmos

    So far, Russia has carried out only two Angara launches, both of them from the Plesetsk spaceport: a light Angara-1.2PP blasted off in July 2014 and its heavy version lifted off in December 2014.

    Wut? Maybe the journalist who wrote this was asleep during the 2nd A-5 test flight in Dec last year? Suspect

    A-3 is superfluous for the time being as Souyuz-5 fills this lift category. Once Soyuz-5 is up and running from Baikonour and Angara is operating out of Vostochny then I expect Roscosmos will re-evaluate the cost/benefit behind A-3. It should be easy enough to adapt A-5 to A-3 config and fly from the Vostochny pad if the demand exists.

    Interestingly, the Angara pad at Plesetsk doesn't seem to be a part of this process as the military doesn't (yet) have much demand for 17T-class launchers. Their payloads seem to be either relatively light birds in LEO or inclined Molniya-style orbits, or the odd heavy geostationary platform or multiple glonass (much less common these days as the constellation is essentially complete). Soyuz-2 currently satisfies most needs, and A-5 will take over from Proton when that wonderful hypergolic monster (Laughing) is finally put out to pastures.

    The Angara project has changed radically since 1992 when the idea was first floated of a new all-Russian rocket to guarantee the ability to launch national seurity payloads from Plesetsk. The Angara pad in the Northern Cosmodrome looks like an oddity until one remembers the background behind its genesis. Its fair to say that 3 launches in 7 years looks shit when taken at face value but its not an accurate reflection of the programs progress, and the low utilisation in these early years will be forgotten once the infrastructure development is done, the serial manufacturing is up & running, and the test programs are complete.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:15 am

    "Angara" on the way to the series

    The successful launch in December gave hope that the intricate history of the Angara family of missiles has finally entered a predictable course. The next, third in a row, flight test of the heavy "Angara-A5" will take place in the coming months, and in total, six launches must be carried out before receiving the go-ahead for mass production. The main customers - the Roscosmos State Corporation and the Russian Ministry of Defense - believe in the new rocket. The fact is that, despite a number of interesting proposals for launch vehicles, the Angara will become a key carrier for the next decade in terms of supporting the most ambitious Russian space projects and regaining leadership in the launch services market.

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    Post  kvs Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:27 am

    That's some flowery language for a Roscosmos piece. You would think that it is all touch and go and that everything is 100% uncertain
    and the Angara is a matter of "faith". This is how maggots infiltrate the information space and corrupt public opinion. Nothing
    about the Angara program and the rocket itself merits such doomsday language.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:42 am

    kvs wrote:That's some flowery language for a Roscosmos piece. You would think that it is all touch and go and that everything is 100% uncertain
    and the Angara is a matter of "faith". ...

    30 years in development

    It's not faith, it's blind fanaticism and crazy luck

    Without 2014 this would still be just in scale model form

    And it's still late

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:52 am

    If Russia didn't have Soyuz and Proton and secure access to pads that fly them both then Angara would have been up and flying in the 00s. But they do, so Angara isn't a great priority and must make do with funds as allocated.

    Thats really all there is to it, despite the Chicken Little nonsense of the haters.

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    Post  nemerson Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:23 am

    The Khrunichev Center manufactures serial Angara-A5 missiles for the Ministry of Defense
    https://ria.ru/20210326/angara-1602909479.html

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    Post  GarryB Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:43 am

    Indeed, when your F-22 is too expensive, and its cheap numbers replacement that was going to teach the world in standardisation and commonality and production efficiency is also too expensive to produce so America is falling back on a fighter plane that was designed based on direct experience from the Vietnam war....

    That is called bad management... the goal of the F-22 was to be the best of the best but the goal of the F-35 was an affordable high tech stealth fighter that could replace all existing fighters in all HATO air forces... so replacing all American and European fighters was the plan and the concept and the tremendously ridiculous plan made it certain it could never be affordable.

    Production plants scattered all over the world to suit the wishes of the purse string holders... don't get the electronics from where they are made now... set up new factories in districts that vote for the senators or whatever that vote on funding for military programmes... they will never cut numbers if it means losing jobs in the places they get voted in... it is the opposite of centralisation and production efficiency... and it was rubber stamped on a jack of all trades plane that everyone was supposed to buy in enormous numbers because it worked on the C-17... they ignored the fact that it was not cut in numbers but they kept getting new planes without having to ask for any to keep production running... which is great for any programme... but for a programme that doesn't need to be cheap but should be affordable, the prices they were paying for C-17 should have told them this was never going to work... but they ignored that because while the train is moving they earn lots of money... and nobody seems to be held accountable... who knows where the money went... nobody is even checking.

    But obviously it is Russian management and Russian corruption that is the problem in this case...

    And you don't understand why we look at the situation they are in and think there are no serious problems here...

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    Post  Scorpius Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:35 pm

    "Angara" for manned launches may be launched from Plesetsk in the future.
    https://tass.ru/kosmos/11279687

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