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    Post  par far Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:09 pm

    President Putin have said it many times that the Russian population has to increase and the Russian government will work very hard to achieve that.

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    Post  Guest Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:42 pm

    par far wrote:President Putin have said it many times that the Russian population has to increase and the Russian government will work very hard to achieve that.


    The Soviet Union had 290 million people
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    Post  owais.usmani Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:59 pm

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:12 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    Vermin is culled so worthy may prosper

    Good Lord Darwin is generous

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:35 pm

    Better one normal individual raised by a mother and father, than 100 single mommy felons working out their psychological
    issues on society. The US is currently sinking in such shit. Something many fail to comprehend.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:45 pm

    We need the raw numbers here, not a tweet.

    The issue is, we need to know the full numbers of: Deaths, births, migrations, etc.

    I figure migration is low due to strict rules and deaths up due to older generation dying off. I doubt much of the coof had a hand.
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:57 pm

    Try to find this news on the Rosstat official web scratch
    https://rosstat.gov.ru/
    Maybe you are more skilled than I ...
    Everything that is aired, is a combination of different data.
    Starting from "660k" from the very first covid case revealed.
    Levada, Moscow Times ... all hands on deck!
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:03 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Try to find this news on the Rosstat official web scratch
    https://rosstat.gov.ru/
    Maybe you are more skilled than I ...
    Everything that is aired, is a combination of different data.
    Starting from "660k" from the very first covid case revealed.
    Levada, Moscow Times ... all hands on deck!

    I would normally go through it myself but I'm on mobile at moment and rather busy to break it down for now. May give it a gander over next weekend though if no one else has done so.
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    Post  Krepost Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:06 pm

    The statistics are from January 2021.
    Old news.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:08 pm

    Krepost wrote:The statistics are from January 2021.
    Old news.

    So AFP news is stating something from a statistic of beginning of last year and stating it as for the whole year?

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    Post  Krepost Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:12 pm

    They will do anything to attack, belittle, criticize and throw as much shit at Russia as possible.
    Including lies, distortion and taking things out of context.
    Nothing new, keep sailing.

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    Post  calripson Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:44 pm

    As I stated before, Covid deaths affect almost entirely people outside their reproductive years and as a result have no long-term impact on population. The key determinants to population are birth rates and net migration.
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:56 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Krepost wrote:The statistics are from January 2021.
    Old news.

    So AFP news is stating something from a statistic of beginning of last year and stating it as for the whole year?


    They do even better dude.
    Starting with the mystery 660k and "beginning of covid" term, that in reality is ... early 2020 for Russia.
    That is 2 fuckin' years now squeezed and presented as a status for 2021.
    The '900k' figure is an own "calculation" made by Echo of Moscow if I saw that correctly.
    Line the points Laughing
    Sure that tons of people died, in the Caucasus that shit exterminated the whole clan structure.
    We had the very first covid strike here about the same time, my wife get that shit in March 2020. And the whole family again a year after, March 2021.
    People were dying everywhere, for Poland it is about 200k excess deaths for 2021.
    So even if true, this is rather an observation than a note to be given to the authorities.

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:56 am

    MOSCOW. Jan 28 (Interfax) - The natural population decrease (deaths outnumbering births) in Russia in stood at 1,042,700 versus 688,700 in 2020 and 317,200 in 2019, according to data released by the Federal Statistics Service (Rosstat) on Friday.

    This is the highest such figure in Russia's recent history (the previous high was recorded in 2000, at 958,500).

    As a result, by January 1, 2022, Russia's population dropped to 145,478,097 from 146,171,015 on January 1, 2021, by 692,918 (this is lower than the natural population decrease due to a partial offset by increased migration). The drop is the biggest since 2003 when the population number fell from 145 million on January 1, 2003, to 144.3 million on January 1, 2004.

    The population number is calculated on the basis of the latest available figures, which do not include the last national census, the results of which will not appear before April, Rosstat said.

    Births in 2021 dropped to 1,402,800 from 1,435,700 in 2020, the lowest since 2002 (when 1,397,000 were born). Births peaked at 1,943,000 in 2014 and have since declined steadily.

    Deaths increased from 2,124,500 in 2020 to 2,445,500 in 2021.

    In Moscow, the constant-population number as of January 1, 2022, stood at 12,632,40. In the Moscow region the figure was 7,765,900; in St. Petersburg, 5,376,700; and in the Leningrad region, 1,907,600.

    NOTE: this must have been the article he was trying to refer to.

    https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/73749/
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:35 pm

    Covid-19 may have something to do with the changes.

    The mortality increased late into 2020 and in 2021. It makes sense that people would put off having children.
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    Post  calripson Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:12 pm

    Women's prime reproductive years are 23-38 in Russia. (Outside of Muslim Republics where births start younger). Corresponds to 1984 - 1999 birthdates. Births fell dramatically from 1990 -1998 in Russia. This is the donut hole right in the middle of the reproductive age demographic. Payments should be made to induce young women to have their first child earlier - before 25 for example, and payments should be increased for women to have an incremental second or third child.

    As I mentioned before, religiosity is the greatest indicator of fertility. It is interesting that the Jewish religion (which is actually a duality of religion and political identification) has found a mechanism to cope with the low fertility rates of secular Jews who tend to be very educated and economically successful relative to other groups. Orthodox religious Jews have very large families - 7.1 children per ultra-Orthodox family versus 1.4 for secular Jews. Many of the Orthodox Jewish kids "leave the faith" and become secular, but enough remain to replenish the population. The Russian orthodox church should mimic this by providing support to families with a large number of kids.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:47 pm

    Not sure that more people is the solution... for anything.
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    Post  calripson Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:55 pm

    GarryB wrote:Not sure that more people is the solution...  for anything.

    From a simple biological reality, if you feel that way, you've already lost.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:11 pm

    kvs wrote:Covid-19 may have something to do with the changes.

    The mortality increased late into 2020 and in 2021. It makes sense that people would put off having children.

    If only there was some way to prevent COVID...

    Some mysterious technology...

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:34 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    kvs wrote:Covid-19 may have something to do with the changes.

    The mortality increased late into 2020 and in 2021.   It makes sense that people would put off having children.

    If only there was some way to prevent COVID...

    Some mysterious technology...


    Idiot genius. Vaccination does not save you if you have a broken immune system which is what people over 60 with metabolic syndrome
    disorders have. All those double vaxxed dying in Canada must be all one big conspiracy to deny the wonders of vaccination.

    As usual we have discussion with no relevant context. You would think from clownasses such as PD that it was people primarily under 50 dying
    in Russia from covid.



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    Post  sundoesntrise Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:07 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    kvs wrote:Covid-19 may have something to do with the changes.

    The mortality increased late into 2020 and in 2021.   It makes sense that people would put off having children.

    If only there was some way to prevent COVID...

    Some mysterious technology...


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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:49 pm

    From a simple biological reality, if you feel that way, you've already lost.

    Lost what?

    Considering at the moment 80% of the worlds population don't have enough and 1% of the population own more than all of the 80 percent combined and don't need anything more... yet still manipulate and scrabble to get more, there are finite resources in this planet and you think more people is the solution?

    When it is legal for a cigarette company to bribe some doctors to say the link between smoking and lung cancer is not certain, when food companies influence diet recommendations to boost sales instead of improve human health, it sounds like you just want more customers.

    The planet earth is the only place in the Universe we know of that we can exist for any length of time and we wonder why species go extinct.. . well we pretend to wonder... as the human population expands and takes up more and more land the natural habitats disappear and you get foxes and monkeys and other animals living in cities because there are no other places for them to live.

    We need to sort out society first before we start expecting it to expand.

    A shift to a new multipolar world means development and growth for more countries... the spread of education and an increase in living standards for a lot more people which should in itself lead to a drop in the numbers of children being born in many regions, but the drop in child and other mortality means the population will level off rather than decline.

    Of course if the US starts some major wars in a tantrum to avoid the inevitable shift in power then the numbers might drop dramatically in some regions.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:35 pm

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    Compare – Churches are being rebuilt/built in Russia, Churches in the west are getting canceled because they are not woke enough and for not rejecting God’s created order. Churches in the west are encouraged to call their “Chirstian brothers and sisters” racists and white supremacist because they voted for Doanld Trump. A few weeks ago, Pastor MacArthur made the comment that he is against religious “freedom” – as am I – and he was lambasted by “Christians”.

    Russians are encouraged to have babies. While citizens in the west are being encouraged to have as many abortions as possible. Russian children are taught History, Math, Biology, Geography, Physics. Western children are taught to hate their heritage, common core math, CRT, and how to select their “pronouns”.

    We have the most perverse, corrupt, malignant, repugnant, despicable, morally dead, soulless, Godless, beings running western governments and I must hate Putin for saying “Russia first”? I just saw my neighbors in Canada getting brutalized by their government for simply saying they want the freedom to make their own medical decisions.

    I don’t recall seeing the Russian government sending its thugs out to trample its citizens with walkers. I don’t recall seeing the Russian government unleash teargas on its citizens for refusing the “elites” digital passports. I don’t see the Russian government calling its citizens nazis, racists, homophobes, islamaphobes, deplorable, white supremacist or terrorists. I did see them arrest several “protestors” for desecrating a church though. I could go on…

    So forgive me for disregarding anything I see or hear from those same western “governments” whose leaders are fully bought and paid for by chyna, when they tell me I should hate Russia and Putin because they demand it. Forgive me when I ignore and completely disregard the moral preening form the very people who just a few weeks ago wanted me dead or in prison because I refuse a medical procedure they DEMAND I undergo, because science…

    “They use Big Tech to censor you, the Deep State to spy on you, the intelligence agencies to frame you, the media to slander you… they rig elections to disenfranchise you…all the while they claim they are the ones defending democracy and justice.
    It’s all a bunch of bullshit. That’s what it is”

    President Trump. February 27, 2022

    Yeah, I should trust, believe and follow those demons.

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    Post  George1 Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:12 am

    The Russian Caucasus is home to a huge number of ethnic groups

    https://www.rbth.com/travel/334935-largest-peoples-caucasus

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    Post  Krepost Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:42 pm

    Surprised you guys missed this in the news:

    The 2021 census revealed that the population of Russia is in excess of 147 million people. That is 1m people more than thought.

    Full details of the census results will be revealed next month.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/146366/

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