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Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Cyberspec- Posts : 2904
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Join date : 2011-08-08
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- Post n°26
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
The benefits of a heli-tanker are obvious IMO.
GarryB- Posts : 40710
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- Post n°27
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
It would be cheaper to put a fuel bladder on a 463L pallet and push it out of the back of a C-130 low on the deck near the tanks. If your Team is good you don't even need parachutes on it.
The Russians don't have any C-130s in service...
Besides a helicopter with the lifting capacity of a C-130 can deliver the same payload, though over shorter distances and lower speeds, but with much better accuracy and lower trauma.
The Russians know all about pushing loads out of aircraft with parachutes... they invented airborne forces... and before you say some American officer talked about the potential idea in 1917 talk is cheap. The Russians were dropping 10,000 man forces with equipment by aircraft in the early 1930s. After seeing it the Germans and the US and British Started their own airborne force development programs.
Cyberspec- Posts : 2904
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- Post n°28
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Mi-26TZ at the just finished exercise Centre 2011
Russian Patriot- Posts : 1155
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Russian flight safety authority Rosaviatsia denies it has any plans to temporarily ground the nation’s fleet of Mil Mi-8T helicopters
11:25 26/10/2011
MOSCOW, October 26 (RIA Novosti)
Tags: Mi-17, Mi-8, Rosaviatsia, Moscow, Russia
Russian flight safety authority Rosaviatsia denies it has any plans to temporarily ground the nation’s fleet of Mil Mi-8T helicopters, the watchdog said on Wednesday following media reports that a ban was being considered.
The Mi-8 and its updated variant, the Mi-17, is the most widely produced helicopter in history, and hundreds remain in service throughout the world, particularly in Russia and the former Soviet Republics.
Recent media reports claimed that the Interstate Aviation Committee (MAK), a CIS flight safety authority, had issued a recommendation to the Mil Moscow Helicopter Factory, the design authority for the Mi-8, that the machine should have modifications to protect passengers from parts of the engine which could break up in an accident.
“There is no discussion of a temporary grounding of the Mi-8,” Rosaviatsia said, and declined further comment.
RIA Novosti was unable to obtain comment from MAK, or Mil in Moscow.
The Mi-8 is a utility helicopter often used in passenger transport roles, particularly in Russia’s oil and gas industry and the armed forces.
http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20111026/168125578.html
GarryB- Posts : 40710
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- Post n°30
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
A grounding of Mi-8s would have a similar effect to grounding all Boeings in the East.
Austin- Posts : 7617
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- Post n°31
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Acording to latest AW&ST , Mi-17 is gaining lots of ground due to its sturdiness , reliability ,payload and cost
http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416210762&e=true
http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416210762&e=true
George1- Posts : 18552
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- Post n°32
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Mi-38 ready for serial production 'soon', with certification in 2015
Russian Helicopters' Kazan factory is building a third prototype of a new model, the Mil Mi-38, which fits between the 36-passenger Mi-17 and the 82-passenger heavylift Mi-26.
The aircraft is designed to carry up to 40 passengers with a maximum take-off weight of 15.6t and payload of 6t carried internally or by sling.
Development has been held up by delays to a new Klimov engine, though this will be powering the third prototype, with Pratt & Whitney power having got the first two aircraft flying for evaluation by Russian Helicopters' Mil design bureau in Moscow.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/mi-38-ready-for-serial-production-soon-with-certification-in-2015-371299/
Russian Helicopters' Kazan factory is building a third prototype of a new model, the Mil Mi-38, which fits between the 36-passenger Mi-17 and the 82-passenger heavylift Mi-26.
The aircraft is designed to carry up to 40 passengers with a maximum take-off weight of 15.6t and payload of 6t carried internally or by sling.
Development has been held up by delays to a new Klimov engine, though this will be powering the third prototype, with Pratt & Whitney power having got the first two aircraft flying for evaluation by Russian Helicopters' Mil design bureau in Moscow.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/mi-38-ready-for-serial-production-soon-with-certification-in-2015-371299/
George1- Posts : 18552
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- Post n°33
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
flamming_python- Posts : 9685
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- Post n°34
Tnx but no
It's a nice helo - we just don't need it. And if we can't get the Europeans in on its production and so on, we won't find many other people who need it either. Perhaps in 10 years time or so, if we can find a lot of common components with our other helicopter projects, incorporate more composite and high-tech materials into its design and raise its capabilities to the point where it would offer a significant improvement over the Mi-8 series, at a decent enough value.
GarryB- Posts : 40710
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- Post n°35
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
7 ton external load capacity is better than the 4 ton external load capacity of the Mi-8/-17.
And it is cleared to have an operational ceiling much higher than the Mi-8/-17 series too.
It is a step into higher quality as well as higher performance, though I agree that the Mi-17 is still very useful and is still selling very well.
And it is cleared to have an operational ceiling much higher than the Mi-8/-17 series too.
It is a step into higher quality as well as higher performance, though I agree that the Mi-17 is still very useful and is still selling very well.
Austin- Posts : 7617
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- Post n°36
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
I think Mi-38 is at its beginning of life and Mi-8/17 at the end of its design optimisation , right now it might look like Mi-17 variants are close to Mi-38 parameters but the gap will grow when Mi-38 starts to evolve like Mi-8 did and then Mi-38 will start getting better.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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- Post n°37
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6304/117885493.7/0_95894_edbb3c65_orig
Another new Mi-26 for the MOD.
Another new Mi-26 for the MOD.
George1- Posts : 18552
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- Post n°38
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/17738/
New Mi-26
New Mi-26
Sujoy- Posts : 2426
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- Post n°39
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
VOICE OF RUSSIA
Pentagon to buy 12 more Russian MI-17s
The Pentagon has told the U.S. Congress about its decision to buy 12 additional Mi-17 helicopters from the Russian company "Rosboroneksport" for the Afghan army.
The transaction’s amount is estimated at being worth $218 million.
Earlier this year the Pentagon ordered 12 helicopters from the Russian company.
According to the authorities, the Mi-17 is cheaper than American counterparts and easier to teach Afghan pilots to fly.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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- Post n°40
Mi-8 first flight 50 years ago!
http://www.armstass.su/?page=article&aid=109160&cid=25
50 years ago the Mi-8 first flew!
Hurrah!
50 years ago the Mi-8 first flew!
Hurrah!
TheArmenian- Posts : 1880
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Join date : 2011-09-14
- Post n°41
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
The Magnificant 8: A great review in 2 parts of the Mi-8 by "Wing of Russia"
flamming_python- Posts : 9685
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- Post n°42
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Another legendary design of Russian engineering that has literaly served across generations. Huzzah!
GarryB- Posts : 40710
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- Post n°43
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Awesome workhorse that spawned the Mi-24 family and ultimately the Mi-28 family and also of course the Mi-9, Mi-17, and of course the boat hulled Mi-14 family.
The most produced military helo in the world!
(and thanks for the vids)
The most produced military helo in the world!
(and thanks for the vids)
Dima- Posts : 1222
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- Post n°44
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Thanks for the links guys.
I wish the Mi-38 also have a great future.
I wish the Mi-38 also have a great future.
George1- Posts : 18552
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- Post n°45
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
More helos in grey. I like this color!!
GarryB- Posts : 40710
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- Post n°46
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
It is sobering to see the five blade tail rotor of the Mi-26... as a general rule of thumb about 15% of engine power is diverted to the tail rotor on a conventional helicopter equipped with a tail rotor, so with two 11.5K hp engines that means that just under 3,500hp is going through the tail rotor of the Mi-26... which is more than a very early model Mi-8 has from both engines going through its main rotor!
Cyberspec- Posts : 2904
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- Post n°47
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
The 7th Mi-26 produced in 2012 has flown...there's a few interesting videos also on the below page
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/26432/
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/26432/
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medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°48
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Cyberspec wrote:The 7th Mi-26 produced in 2012 has flown...there's a few interesting videos also on the below page
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/26432/
Good news. Vn ten years they built 20 Mi-26 helicopters for the army.
George1- Posts : 18552
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- Post n°49
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Six new "Terminator" arrived at the airbase the Eastern military district
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201212201045-ibo1.htm
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201212201045-ibo1.htm
Cyberspec- Posts : 2904
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- Post n°50
Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News
Dec 23 - Mi-26 saves Norwegian Sea King (photos on link)
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/422831.html
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There's talk on the Ru Net that Algeria is showing interest in buying 12 x Mi-26T2 helicopters.
This is from June 2012
Russia to show its upgraded Mi-26T2 to Algerian Air Force
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c154/450483.html
And some pics from a recent visit by Algerian paratroops during which they jumped from a Mi-26
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/422831.html
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There's talk on the Ru Net that Algeria is showing interest in buying 12 x Mi-26T2 helicopters.
This is from June 2012
Russia to show its upgraded Mi-26T2 to Algerian Air Force
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c154/450483.html
And some pics from a recent visit by Algerian paratroops during which they jumped from a Mi-26