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    Russian Military Uniforms and Clothing

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    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:01 am

    [quote="flamming_python"]
    Mr.Kalishnikov47 wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/18085/
    Anyway dude, if you actually ever wore this uniform - you would quickly realise that the pattern would be very far down the priority list on things to improve Smile

    That bad huh?

    EDIT: Or did you just mean the camo pattern works really well?
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:21 am

    hahahahaha TR1... that is certainly a flaming something... Smile

    I have very poor skills regarding uniform patterns but this stuff looks a little German to me.

    Not that that is a bad thing... if it works then use it...
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:28 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://reibert.info/forum/picture.php?albumid=2415&pictureid=264980

    Python this is you right?

    :p

    LOL now why would you go and say something like that, TR1? Smile
    Guy even looks strangely familiar for some reason. Christ.

    This is me in my 'dembel' costume by the way:
    https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img341/7987/29997110150897099100613.jpg

    As you can see I skipped on all the pimpin'; most that I wanted to do is get myself a white leather belt, but in the end I didn't even get around to that. I was awarded a certificate/diploma for my service, which gave me the right to buy and wear a badge commemorating 30 years of my unit on my parade uniform. I didn't even get that - which is something I ended up regretting later on. Could have come home as a decorated war hero, after all Very Happy

    I just focussed on the essentials; making sure that my rank slides, chevrons and unit patches were sown on or secured perfectly and at exactly the right angles, and steam-ironing and cleaning my coat and uniform to oblivion. Think I made enough of an impression, although mind you - for those lads that served 2-3 years back in the day, I think that they should be afforded the right to wear whatever the hell they want on their last day without any criticism and laughter.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:42 pm

    Mr.Kalishnikov47 wrote:That bad huh?

    EDIT: Or did you just mean the camo pattern works really well?

    I mostly meant that it's just that bad Smile

    The camo itself works well enough from my experience. I hid behind behind a rock, and another time lay down between some bushes in an otherwise fairly open view and no-one saw me for shit. But then the same is pretty much true with the Flora pattern too; main thing is just to keep still.

    But the actual camo pattern, is simply spoilt by the poor material used. Give it a few good washes, and it will fade considerably. If you ever spill diesel fuel on your uniform like I did, and then have to give it a thorough, hard scrub over the space of the next two hours - well then you can forget about your little brown and black squares and what not - it will fade into a roughly homogenous green paste and then you can kiss your 'advanced' digital patterns goodbye. Conversely, if you don't wash it at all, the uniform, pretty damn quickly, becomes blackened, oily, and even slightly reflective. A reflective uniform - yeah great.

    Anyway though - to be honest the camo characteristics of an army uniform barely even matter; at least in the Russian army. What matters is everything else - the vast majority of your time is not spent running around a field or hiding in the bushes, it's shoveling snow, performing some manual labour somewhere, sowing shut all the tears at the seems caused by shoddy quality, or doing physical exercise while having to worry about a new hole ripping open, etc...
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    Post  TR1 Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:58 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    TR1 wrote:http://reibert.info/forum/picture.php?albumid=2415&pictureid=264980

    Python this is you right?

    :p

    LOL now why would you go and say something like that, TR1? Smile
    Guy even looks strangely familiar for some reason. Christ.

    This is me in my 'dembel' costume by the way:
    https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img341/7987/29997110150897099100613.jpg

    As you can see I skipped on all the pimpin'; most that I wanted to do is get myself a white leather belt, but in the end I didn't even get around to that. I was awarded a certificate/diploma for my service, which gave me the right to buy and wear a badge commemorating 30 years of my unit on my parade uniform. I didn't even get that - which is something I ended up regretting later on. Could have come home as a decorated war hero, after all Very Happy

    I just focussed on the essentials; making sure that my rank slides, chevrons and unit patches were sown on or secured perfectly and at exactly the right angles, and steam-ironing and cleaning my coat and uniform to oblivion. Think I made enough of an impression, although mind you - for those lads that served 2-3 years back in the day, I think that they should be afforded the right to wear whatever the hell they want on their last day without any criticism and laughter.

    Haha, I had to post that when I saw it.

    Nice photos Python, you are a true non smiling Russian. Very Happy
    How was your service all in all anyways- you were in for 1 year right?
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:24 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    TR1 wrote:http://reibert.info/forum/picture.php?albumid=2415&pictureid=264980

    Python this is you right?

    :p

    LOL now why would you go and say something like that, TR1? Smile
    Guy even looks strangely familiar for some reason. Christ.

    This is me in my 'dembel' costume by the way:
    https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img341/7987/29997110150897099100613.jpg

    As you can see I skipped on all the pimpin'; most that I wanted to do is get myself a white leather belt, but in the end I didn't even get around to that. I was awarded a certificate/diploma for my service, which gave me the right to buy and wear a badge commemorating 30 years of my unit on my parade uniform. I didn't even get that - which is something I ended up regretting later on. Could have come home as a decorated war hero, after all Very Happy

    I just focussed on the essentials; making sure that my rank slides, chevrons and unit patches were sown on or secured perfectly and at exactly the right angles, and steam-ironing and cleaning my coat and uniform to oblivion. Think I made enough of an impression, although mind you - for those lads that served 2-3 years back in the day, I think that they should be afforded the right to wear whatever the hell they want on their last day without any criticism and laughter.

    Haha, I had to post that when I saw it.

    It's a shame you're not on mp.net anymore. If you were, you wouldn't have missed things like this Very Happy

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    Nice photos Python, you are a true non smiling Russian. Very Happy


    Don't mind me, I'm just getting my war face on Smile I got an even meaner one involving a bayonet knife too

    How was your service all in all anyways- you were in for 1 year right?
    Yep 1 year. I don't know what to tell you. Mostly it's just a matter of going there to find out for yourself. I will try to tell you for example; that it's mostly just a big, big load of nothing, but I suspect that only if you find yourself in the military one day will you fully understand what I mean Very Happy
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    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:42 am

    Do any of you know which pattern this is?

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    Also, I've been seeing this question pop up a lot lately on other sites and nobody ever seems to give a real answer.

    What are the advantages the Russian green digital pattern has over normal OD green? Because it seems that if you back up a
    couple of steps then the camo just looks plain green.

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    I have to say I agree with the people asking, the pixels on that uniform are way too small. Then again it may appear to simply look green from a distance do to the resolution of the pictures, I don't know. Either way I kind of wish they would have stuck with Flora, or maybe switched to a more effective looking pattern like SURPAT, or that desert digital uniform who's name I keep forgetting.


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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:19 am

    It is my understanding that the idea behind digital camo is to appear to be noise on a night vision device to make the soldiers outline more difficult to determine. Even if you can see the soldier sometimes it is useful if their outline is hard to spot because you don't just have to see the soldier, you have to identify them as a soldier and an enemy soldier to. A person without camo with a clear defined outline means you can estimate distance and determine the direction of travel (if the target is moving) more accurately.

    I remember reading a post about modern camouflage with a demonstration set of photos that showed through night vision equipment some patterns were very effective, while others were useless.
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    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:31 am

    The only problem is that the pixels on the Russian uniform are much too small, and from any distance appear to be one solid color, which means it isn't really breaking up the silhouette of the person wearing it, or at least not any more than any other OD green uniform.

    As far as it's effectiveness against night vision equipment, awhile back I saw pictures of it through a night vision scope compared to a normal flora uniform. I will admit it was harder to spot.
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:11 pm

    Mr.Kalishnikov47 wrote:Russian Military Uniforms and Clothing - Page 2 0_849810

    Soldier on the right is wearing a cap from the new digi uniform we're discussing. That's all I can tell you.

    Mr.Kalishnikov47 wrote:The only problem is that the pixels on the Russian uniform are much too small, and from any distance appear to be one solid color, which means it isn't really breaking up the silhouette of the person wearing it, or at least not any more than any other OD green uniform.

    It's fine, it just looks like that in the photos that's all (and when its faded to shit too).
    Of course I haven't seen any other digi camos in real life, so I can't really give a fair comparison.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:45 am

    The only problem is that the pixels on the Russian uniform are much too small, and from any distance appear to be one solid color,

    Is that actually a problem?

    I mean up close you can see subtle shades and colours in an individual tree but as you move further back the different shades tend to merge into a common colour... isn't that what distance normally does?

    Through magnifying optics you see the detail and it blends in, and from a distance you can't see the small details of the uniform or the back ground and they all merge into... well... hard to see.

    BTW I found some photos:

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    This is called old uniform to the left in normal light.

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    This is called old uniform to the left in UV light. (3rd and above gen II sights can see in UV and IR frequencies)

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    This is called new uniform to the left in night vision view.
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    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:29 am

    Okay, I see both of your points, thank you for the information.

    I think the unknown pattern may actually be a variant of the Russian Palma Spring pattern, which apparently dates back to the mid 40's.

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    Here's a different version of the same pattern (Which I might add looks completely awesome).

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    Might be my new favorite camouflage pattern.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:37 am

    Part of the issue with the Russian and Soviet uniforms is that they really do have 4 distinct seasons, and much of the time just one pattern wont cut it.

    The vast geography means it would be practically impossible to get away with one standard camouflage for all.

    The practical problems of production and distribution mean that soldiers wear what they are given which might not be ideal for one local at that particular time of the year.

    Also uniforms wear out at different rates and when you need new trousers if it came down to a choice of a different pattern and the correct size or the same pattern but several sizes too big or too small then I would go with the wrong pattern. Mechanised infantry will rarely blend into the background and the important thing is to break up the shape rather than look exactly like a tree.

    I actually remember seeing a photo of a Spanish NATO exercise of this big open field with all these small bushes and the commander basically said that before his unit arrived there were no bushes so all the enemy needed to do was shoot at all the bushes because otherwise it was flat and open country... well it made me laugh... Smile
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    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:08 pm

    New field uniforms for the Russian army.

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    I personally think they should have selected a new camouflage while they were at it, but the uniform itself is definitely a nice improvement.





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    Post  SWAT Pointman Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:47 pm

    Not a camo expert, but I guess digital camo is what is considered most effective camo this day and age it seems. I prefer the look of just olive green BDU, but you have to kind of disregard what looks good and go with what's effective instead.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:26 pm

    ...go with what's effective instead.

    That is key.
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    Post  Zivo Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:48 am

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    Poor guys, they're being put on display. Signs and all Laughing
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    Post  ricky123 Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:55 am

    i would like to see india army get such stuff .poor souls nobody cares about them ..the gov spends billions on modern stuff but the basic things for the infantry is neglected ..
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    Post  Shadåw Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:19 pm

    Found this is Ria novsti`s photo-gallery, its about the new uniforms as well including some details.


    Russia Unveils New Army Field Uniform

    Starting with early 2013, 70,000 new uniform sets will be issued to soldiers, hopefully these unfiforms will not kill the soldiers in the cold like the "fashion unifoms" :<
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:11 pm

    Uniforms look good. And I like the modularity. Hopefully the production quality doesn't let everything down.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:52 pm

    For the new uniform, I wonder what 'forma no. 3' will look like?

    'forma no. 3' is what you wear normally indoors or outdoors in the summer; i.e. trousers, tunic, belt, head-ware.
    Whereas 'forma no. 5' for instance is full winter-clothing, with the coat on.

    So basically, what will the normal indoor dress wear of the uniform look like? I guess there is one picture there that corresponds.
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:22 pm

    This video prompted me to start this thread about Russian military boots.



    Some time ago, I compiled a list of Russian companies that produce military style boots. Most of them produce both for the military as well as for civilians.
    I would like to share my list with you all.
    My list is probably not complete. If you know of other companies, please add them.
    Comments, discussions and opinions are welcome.

    1. FARADEI: The most important one. The are featured in the above video. They make up to 3 million pairs per year.
    www.faradei.ru

    2. ALPINIST: www.alpine1988.ru

    3. FABRIKA OBUVI: www.obuv22.narod.ru

    4. SPETSOBUV: www.c-obuv.ru

    5. IVSPETSOBUV: www.spec37.ru and www.specobuv37.ru

    6. IVANOVOSPESOBUV: http://footwear37.ru/

    7. OBUVSPETS: www.obuvspec.ru

    8. NEBEL: http://nevel-obuv.narod.ru/

    9. DONOBUV: http://www.donobuv.ru/

    10. KRASNAYA ZVEZDA: http://zvezda-kimry.ru/

    11. MSTERSKAYA: http://www.msteraobuv.ru/

    12. KOSTROMSKAYA: http://www.kosfo.ru/

    13. BALTSTEP: http://baltstep.ru/

    14. ARSENAL-ALLIANCE: http://www.mazzali.ru/

    15. AMALGAMA: http://amalgama1992.ru/index.html

    16: BIZON: http://www.fabrikabizon.ru/

    17: ELITE: http://www.eso.spb.ru/

    18: PROFESSIONAL: http://www.proshoes.ru/

    I must also add the following two companies from Belarus.

    1. GARSING: http://www.garsing.ru/

    2. BUTEX: http://www.byteks.ru/
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    Post  Firebird Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:45 pm

    Interesting. I will take a look. Anyone know good sources of Russian arctic camo jackets?
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    I compiled a list of Russian manufacturers for Army/Police/Paramilitary/Hunting/Fishing/Outdoor equipment/clothes makers.
    The list below is by no means complete. Please add entries that you know.
    Enjoy shopping for your winter jacket, camouflage clothes, backpack etc.

    Outdoor clothes/backpacks/tents and other equipment
    1. www.novatour.ru
    2. www.bask.ru
    3. www.redfox.ru
    4. www.splav.ru
    5. www.equip.ru
    6. www.taegnik.com
    7. http://pk-99.ru/
    8. http://outdoor.spb.ru/
    9. http://ekipirovka.ru/
    10. http://www.sivera.ru/
    11. http://tramp-sport.ru/
    12. http://www.uviswear.ru/
    13. http://www.kronawear.ru/
    14. http://www.stayer.su/
    15. http://www.belykamen-prom.ru/
    16. http://www.normal.ru/
    17. http://www.five-stars.ru/
    18. http://areal-outdoor.ru/
    19. http://alom-dar.ru/
    20. http://www.sapsan5.ru/index.html
    21. http://www.superzont.ru/
    22. http://www.forest-kzn.ru/
    23. http://chayka.ruprom.net/product_list
    24. http://pri-val.ru/
     
    Military/Police/ MVD/FSB/Security/Paramilitary style clothes/equipment
    1. http://pokrov.ru/
    2. http://www.okrug.ru/
    3. http://formeks.ru/
    4. http://formeks.ru/
    5. http://magellanufa.ru/
    6. http://ana.spb.ru/
    7. http://www.modox.ru/
    8. http://plm-ltd.ru/
    9. http://sshf.narod.ru/about.htm
    10. http://www.bvr-ivanovo.ru/
    11. http://www.tetratex.ru/
    12. http://kedr-tk.ru/
    13. http://www.daric.ru/
    14. http://deltan.ru/index.html
    15. http://kmf.gk43.ru/#work
    16. http://www.npo-sm.ru/index.php
    17. http://www.cosmo-tex.ru/
    18. http://sso-mil.ru/
    19. http://www.sp-snab.ru/about/
    20. http://rab-odejda.ru/
    21. http://www.rfcorsa.ru/?page=214
    22. http://ballard.ru/
    23. http://t-moda.ru/OAO-Proizvodstv28.php
    24. http://zao-aleksandr.ru/index.html
    25. http://www.mpozr.ru/
    26. http://www.formamvd.ru/component/vmcchk,1/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,28/
    27. http://www.stich.su/
    28. http://tactic-9.ru/

    Hunting/Fishing equipment & clothes makers
    1. http://www.holster-ltd.ru/
    2. http://www.hsn.ru/
    3. http://firmavostok.ru/
    4. http://www.rox.ru/
    5. http://www.taget-hunt.ru/
    6. http://www.tundraspb.ru/
    7. http://www.passat-ohota.ru/
    8. http://rossoriginal.ru/
    9. http://www.roshunter.su/
    10. http://www.roshunter.su/
    11. http://www.roshunter.ru/
    12. http://www.bhf-plus.ru/
    13. http://www.oley.ru/
    14. http://www.babek.su/
    15. http://www.nitex.ru/
    16. http://www.odegdakmf.ru/
    17. http://www.ddd-ohota.ru/
    18. http://www.festspb.ru/
    19. http://www.nova-tex.ru/
    20. http://www.rang21.ru/
    21. http://krastekstil.ru/
    22. http://vk.com/public39245283
    23. http://omega-ohota.ru/
    24. http://www.erten.ru/
    25. http://www.pfvektor.com/
    26. http://www.yukon99.ru/
    27. http://ibobrov.com/
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