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    Strategic Rocket Forces (RVSN): Discussion & News

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    Post  pavi Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:00 pm

    Do you have any source that missile fired at March was Sarmat and launch was failure? Sources that I've seen was in MSM trying to downplay russians success in several fronts of the war. Every time when russians are advancing, Putin have a cancer, missiles are running out, ammunition is low and casualties are enormous. If I hear or see credible evidence from Russia, not from "unnamed" sources from pentagram, I can take these claims seriously.

    You obviously don't understand, that such missile tests are scheduled months prior and quite a lot preparations must be done  starting from manufacturing a very complex missile. Second launch , confirmed to be Sarmat, happened a couple a weeks ago and was successful. Why would they risk to build second missile ready, if results of the first test is not known and failure mechanism is not studied and things re-engineered and fixed? Please, enlighten me?

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    Post  franco Fri May 19, 2023 12:46 pm


    The Bologovskaya Missile Division will complete re-equipment with new missile systems this year. This was stated by the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces Sergei Karakaev at a meeting of the military council of the Strategic Missile Forces, where the results of the winter period of training were summed up.

    “Re-equipment of the Bologovsky missile formation (Tver region) will be completed before the end of the year,” he stressed.

    Karakaev added that the Kozelskaya, Yasnenskaya and Uzhurskaya missile divisions are also being re-equipped with new equipment. The commander of the Strategic Missile Forces noted that in the first half of the year, the Strategic Missile Forces conducted more than 200 tactical training events.

    Earlier it was reported that the re-equipment of the Bologovskaya division with the Yars mobile ground missile system has been underway since 2016.

    PC-24 "Yars" is a Russian strategic missile system with a mobile and silo-based solid-propellant intercontinental ballistic missile with a multiple reentry vehicle.

    "Yars" can be placed on mobile mobile launchers or in well-protected underground mines. The missiles are equipped with multi-unit maneuvering nuclear warheads.

    Each block has its own guidance system and can overcome any missile defense system. Mobile complexes can move along dirt roads. The launch weight of the rocket is 50 tons.

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/20235191117-CO8hV.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui&_x_tr_hist=true

    NOTE:
    - Bologovskaya is the last unit converting to the mobile Yars ICBM
    - Kozelskaya is converting to silo based Yars ICBM
    - Yasnenskaya is converting to Avangard system
    - Uzhurskaya is starting to convert to the Sarmat ICBM

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    Post  lancelot Fri May 19, 2023 1:47 pm

    IIRC all the mobile ICBMs were supposed to complete upgrade to Yars this year. So this is confirmation of that.
    From what I get the Topol-M was replaced with Yars and the Topol was replaced with Yars-S.
    Yars and Yars-S are basically modernized MIRVed versions of those missiles.

    It will take longer to finish conversion of the silo based Topol-M launchers to Yars.

    As for Sarmat, while the first stage seems to work just fine, they seem to be having trouble with the last stage of the launcher. So I doubt it will enter service any time soon. It is quite likely there will be issues. It is supposed to replace the R-36 which used to be made in Ukraine. Makeyev still retains experience in the liquid SLBMs however. So I guess it is just a matter of scaling them up. The R-36 first stage engines were always designed in Russia by Energomash I think. But design of the second stage engine and all engine production used to be in Ukraine.

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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:21 pm

    SS-25 Topol missiles to be retired in 2023

    The Strategic Rocket Forces appear to be set to complete the retirement of SS-25 Topol-M mobile missiles. According to the account of the 22 July 2023 meeting of the RVSN military council, the rearmament of the Bologoye division (Vypolzovo in START) will be completed by the end of 2023. The 7th Guards Missile Division in Bologoye was the last SS-25 Topol division.

    Topol-based command missiles in Yur'ya have also been replaced by Yars-based Signal-M missiles.

    The same account reports that the rearmament of the divisions in Kozelsk (silo Yars), Yasnyy/Dombarovskyy (Avangard), and Uzhur (Sarmat) will continue.

    https://russianforces.org/blog/2023/07/ss-25_topol_missiles_to_be_ret.shtml

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:04 pm

    What are the chances that they will keep the R36M2's and refurbish them in addition to introducing the Sarmat in order to increase missile numbers?
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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:56 pm

    My guess: each Sarmat will replace one R-36M2.
    After all are replaced it´s a political decision to produce more.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:01 pm

    After all are replaced it´s a political decision to produce more. wrote:

    The question is how many additional silos do they have after the R-36M2? Russia had about 52 R-36M2. The advantage is that Sarmat has partly already ready silo infrastructure after the R-36M2. Russia had a lot of silos left by the R-36MUTTTH. The question is what condition they are in, etc.

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    Post  franco Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:36 pm

    A reminder that the R36M2 is being replaced by both the Avangard (Yasnyy) and Sarmat (Uzhur) plus with all good things there is a shelf life. Also this replacement is going to take up to 10 years. Expect the rockets will be utilized in launching satellites.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:50 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:What are the chances that they will keep the R36M2's and refurbish them in addition to introducing the Sarmat in order to increase missile numbers?

    I suspect they will refurbish the withdrawn R-36M2's as space launchers in a similar as the Dnepr vehicle. This time however it will be an all-Russian project with no Ukrainian components.

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:21 pm

    Or put 8,8 tons of explosvies on top and use a few on some dudes around Kiev and Lviv. attack

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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:12 am

    If it is only going on such a short trip they could probably double the payload...

    But at the speeds it will be reentering using explosives is a bit of a waste... the west assures us that DU is safe so how about 8 tons of DU material on Lviv?

    Use an air burst charge that explodes about 5km up in the air so the material gets scattered around the place nice and wide.

    Then we will hear about what a WMD DU really is...
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    Post  franco Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:58 pm

    In the Orenburg region, on the eve of Rocket Forces Day, work was completed to re-equip the Yasnensky formation of the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) of the Russian Federation with the Avangard missile system. On December 16, the Russian Ministry of Defense presented a video of how this happens.

    An intercontinental ballistic missile is loaded into a silo launcher using a special transport and loading unit. The most complex technological operations last several hours. The infrastructure of the position area is ready for the deployment of the next missile regiment on combat duty, including facilities for preparing duty shifts, combat duty and personnel rest.

    As the ministry clarified, the Avangard missile system with a hypersonic unit will effectively complement the weapons systems of the Strategic Missile Forces, and will also expand the capabilities of the missile force group.

    The day before, Izvestia showed how in the Bologovsky formation of the Strategic Missile Forces in the Tver region there was a ceremony for the entry into combat duty of the next missile regiment, rearmed with the Yars mobile ground missile system.

    In October, another regiment with the Avangard silo-based missile system took up combat duty in the Orenburg region

    https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1621485/2023-12-16/mo-pokazalo-perevooruzhenie-iasnenskogo-soedineniia-rvsn-na-raketnyi-kompleks-avangard?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  franco Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:18 pm


    MOSCOW, January 2 – RIA Novosti. The Strategic Missile Forces (Strategic Missile Forces) have completed the re-equipment of their mobile group from Topol mobile ground-based missile systems to the latest Yars, the Ministry of Defense reported.

    “The re-equipment of the mobile group of the Strategic Missile Forces has been completed by re-equipping the last missile regiment of the Bologovsky missile formation in the Tver region from the Topol PGRK to the Yars,” the statement said.

    As the department noted, the mobile group still includes regiments armed with the modern Topol-M mobile complex with sufficient operational life.
    Topol-M is a strategic missile system developed in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The silo-based version was put into service in 2000.
    It is clarified that the re-equipment of these formations is planned to begin after 2025.

    "Yars" (RS-24) is a mobile and silo-based solid-fuel intercontinental ballistic missile with a multiple warhead. Its caliber is 1.86 meters, length - 17.8 meters, launch weight - 46 tons. The declared payload is 1250 kilograms.

    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20240102/voyska-1919499990.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    NOTE: There are 2 regiments of Topol-M mobile launchers (18 ICBM) and 6 regiments of Topol-M silo launchers (60 ICBM)

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    Post  Hole Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:34 pm

    Topol-M is a strategic missile system developed in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
    Topol was put into service in the 1980s.
    Topol-M at the end of the 1990s.
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    Post  Arrow Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:37 pm

    Topol-M at the end of the 1990s. wrote:

    Not completely. Topol-M was developed as a Universal missile in the late 1980s. In the 1990s it was Russified to Topol M.

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