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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:41 pm

    George1 wrote:The NATO multinational force grouping in Poland and the Baltics

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    This map is very incomplete for Poland as there is now a U.S. Army armored brigade stationed at Drawsko Pomorskie and Zagan in the western Poland since January of 2017, and there is some USAF unit(s) stationed at the Lask Air Base in central Poland since 2012.

    Have no idea why these units have not been included.

    Perhaps because they are not "multi-national"?
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:49 pm



    The U.S. military presence in Poland is actually even greater than what I mentioned above.


    Map of the U.S. and NATO Military Presence in Poland.


    http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wojska-nato-i-usa-w-polsce-infografika/w3rtmlr


    It is in Polish, but you might still understand some of it.
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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:05 pm

    Gear still pouring into Rotterdam from the US, likely on its way to the east. It certainly won't stay in the Low Countries.

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    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:19 am

    NATO Launches Massive, 20,000-Strong Exercise in Eastern Europe Citing 'Russian Threat'


    Meanwhile the German daily Die Welt reports that NATO is preparing to deploy a 30,000-strong reserve force, plus hundreds of warplanes and vessels for quick deployment ostensibly on fears of Russia invasion

    A massive U.S.-led military war drill with more than 18,000 soldiers from 19 NATO member states, has begun across Poland and the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    The U.S. Army Europe said Monday that Saber Strike 18 exercise has commenced, and "brings full-scale battle simulations for the service members involved to enhance their real-world military occupations and deployment logistics strategies.

    The war drill will take place in the Baltic states from June 03-15 as “a demonstration of the commitment and solidarity of the Alliance" at a time when Russia’s military is "increasingly threatening NATO members."

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    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/nato-launches-massive-20000-strong-exercise-eastern-europe-citing-russian-threat/ri23714
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    Post  Airbornewolf on Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:10 am

    George1 wrote:

    NATO Launches Massive, 20,000-Strong Exercise in Eastern Europe Citing 'Russian Threat'



    Meanwhile the German daily Die Welt reports that NATO is preparing to deploy a 30,000-strong reserve force, plus hundreds of warplanes and vessels for quick deployment ostensibly on fears of Russia invasion

    A massive U.S.-led military war drill with more than 18,000 soldiers from 19 NATO member states, has begun across Poland and the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    The U.S. Army Europe said Monday that Saber Strike 18 exercise has commenced, and "brings full-scale battle simulations for the service members involved to enhance their real-world military occupations and deployment logistics strategies.

    The war drill will take place in the Baltic states from June 03-15 as “a demonstration of the commitment and solidarity of the Alliance" at a time when Russia’s military is "increasingly threatening NATO members."

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    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/nato-launches-massive-20000-strong-exercise-eastern-europe-citing-russian-threat/ri23714

    From what i heard the only war the NATO forces where fighting where with the local population and going-out establishments. Americans urinating on local monuments, throwing fights. Even some Dutch troops where send home after "disturbances" and "violating the no-drink protocol" and where discharged from service.

    These exercises are getting rediculous shows of pure window dressing for the media. Rarely anything works as it should and logistical structure behind the exercise almost does not excist. if something gets broken and they require spare parts, first thing they get told if is "oh well, just drag it down to the train depot and it will be shipped back when the exercise is over".

    American Hardware is not doing any better, they just painted the vehicles with fresh paint so it looks good after it came back from other warzones. Meanwhile it crews rightfully so complain that most vehicles themselves need some serious overhaul to get them suitable for combat. ranging from electical failures, mechanical wear and tear and likely faults in armor after enduring expose to the elements for long periods of time and weapon impacts during deployments.

    Every time i read the headlines here in the West of "NATO exercise to show Russia our Teeth" and hearing what really the sorry state is of the forces participating in them. i just shake my head and hope the Russians know and get a good laugh out of it.
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    Post  andalusia on Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:31 pm

    I was watching a show called GPS on CNN and it was saying that Eastern European countries like Poland, Romania and a few Baltic State countries I think either Estonia or Lithuania are increasing their military budget and doing military exercises in response to Russia. This program cited that Russia doing military exercises near the border and that such exercises always followed a land grab such as in Georgia and Ukraine. I want to know is this propaganda and what is the truth. It painted Russia and Putin in a negative light and that the US should support these countries.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:07 pm






    In Poland there is no money for the disabled and handicap people and their families, or for the homeless, but there is always money for Ukrainians and the U.S. military (recently the Polish government actually offered to pay for stationing of the U.S. troops in Poland, by comparison in the much richer  U.K., Italy, Germany, and other countries in Europe it is the U.S. military that pays a rent for using the bases in these countries).


    The Polish military is rabble, like the whole country, you need connections to join it, there is no longer conscription. It is not what you know, but who you know. Lots of physically strong people get rejected, but many weaklings are accepted because they have connections. Similar with the Polish Police.


    Poland has an extremely low civilian gun ownership rate, one of the lowest in the world. Many people in Poland do not like that, they would like to legally obtain guns, but the government is not doing anything about it. If someone decides to invade Poland, Poles will have nothing to defend themselves with. Also, the German-Ukrainian mafia "Civic Platform" government sold out at very low prices all the "untouchable" reserves of armaments during 2010-2015.


    They tried to create a "Territorial Defence" recently, but apparently its creation is currently suspended.


    So this sorts of sums up Poland.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:52 am

    The Polish Navy in full force on the exercises "Anakonda 2018" off the coast of the Kaliningrad region

    The major NATO military exercises Anakonda-2018 begin in Poland on Wednesday, November 15, 2018. For the Polish armed forces, they will become the largest maneuvers in 2018. The stated goal of the exercises is the integration of national and allied command structures and troops to achieve the ability to conduct a strategic defensive operation in the face of conventional and hybrid threats. Their peculiarity is the working out of the interaction of military authorities with civilian bodies and individual elements of NATO command structures.

    According to official information, about 12,500 troops will take part in the exercises in Poland, about 5,000 more will take part in Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia and in the Baltic Sea. The total number of soldiers stationed in the training area will be about 100 thousand. 5 thousand units of various equipment, 45 ships, 150 planes and helicopters will be involved. The training arena will be the military sites of Poland and the Baltic countries, international airspace and the Baltic Sea. For the first time in history, Anakonda exercises will be held in Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. The main phase of the exercise will be divided into two phases: LIVEX - the exercise of the troops on November 7-16, and the CPX - command and staff exercises from November 26 to December 6. The transfer and concentration of troops to participate in the exercises began in September.

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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:09 am

    Lithuania is first Baltic nation to sign US defense-cooperation pact

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/04/03/lithuania-is-first-baltic-nation-to-sign-us-defense-cooperation-pact/
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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:01 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809pE_zYp5M

    NATO imperialists are issuing ultimatums to Russia about the Azov Sea.

    These are the same hypocrites that recognized the Albanian land grab of Serbia's Kosovo i Metohija and who ignore the Russian
    ethnic majority referendum to re-store their independence in Crimea.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:08 pm

    BTW, the NATO threats are a violation of international law. Even if Ukraine still controlled Crimea, the Azov Sea is not international
    waters and both Russia and Ukraine can veto the presence of 3rd party ships in the Kerch Strait and in the Azov Sea.

    Also, Russia is not stopping Ukrainian ships from going through the Kerch Strait. So what "freedom of navigation" is NATO going
    to impose?

    Ukraine has still not released the cargo ship Nord which it illegally seized. NATO clearly supports piracy.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:44 pm

    kvs wrote: 

    Ukraine has still not released the cargo ship Nord which it illegally seized.    NATO clearly supports piracy.

    A point that is forgotten when the US demands that the Russians release the UkieN ships.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:04 pm

    Nothing will happen. None of their ships are capable of traversing the waters of Azov sea through Kerch due to their large displacement. So instead, they will board with Ukrainian vessels but so long as they are having their papers and were given permission they will go through (and US will use it as propaganda anyway). BUT, if they do not, they will be blocked from entering anyway and US will cry foul instead. But in the end, nothing will happen. US will just use this as an excuse for more anti russian hysteria. But they know they cant do anything cause Russian assets in the region outweigh nato's as well, not everyone in NATO is quite on the same page either.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:43 pm

    Estonia is now a Russian majority country. Time to vote or to fight !
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:41 am

    I was watching a show called GPS on CNN and it was saying that Eastern European countries like Poland, Romania and a few Baltic State countries I think either Estonia or Lithuania are increasing their military budget and doing military exercises in response to Russia.

    In response to Russia doing what?

    Oh, I forgot... when NATO has training exercises on Russias border in former Soviet republic states that used to be part of the Soviet Union it is to promote peace and stability in the region because obviously it makes sense for Americans to have troops on former Soviet territory right next to Russian territory.

    But when Russia has exercises on the other side of the border that means they are planning an invasion of those baltic states who abuse their own Russian citizens with the freedom to be fined if they speak Russian in public and are not allowed to vote or get government related jobs and are not even allowed a passport unless they pass tests in the native language of the country... can you see such laws being popular in the US?

    No welfare, no vote, no change of government related job unless you can speak the local native american dialect?

    This program cited that Russia doing military exercises near the border and that such exercises always followed a land grab such as in Georgia and Ukraine.

    Amusing, the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia did follow a Russian local exercise and that was possibly a reason they were able to respond so quickly, but I suspect it was Georgian support for the conflict in Chechnia that led to a lot of Russians in the region wanting a bit of revenge that also led to the rapid and relatively effective response. Regarding the Ukraine I am not so sure... the US paid for a coup to overthrow the legal government in Kiev and regions on the border with Russia refused to accept the illegal coup, after which Kiev sent in the troops and artillery and the aircraft to peacefully bomb their civilian population to capitulate and accept them as their government. Russian forces in the Crimea (legally there because of the large Russian naval base in Sevastopol) allowed the Russian forces to keep the peace while a referendum was held to decide what to do... the people chose to leave the Ukraine and join Russia... really nothing at all to do with Russian military exercises within its own border either.

    I want to know is this propaganda and what is the truth. It painted Russia and Putin in a negative light and that the US should support these countries.

    There are large Russian populations within these baltic regions who are generally being abused by their governments. The coup imposed government in the Ukraine supported by the west banned Russian language speaking in the Ukraine and in Ukrainian schools... with fines... imagine a law in Florida that banned cuban and spanish and english and you could only speak the language of the native american tribe from that region...

    They are being bastards and are trying to provoke a conflict... and they expect American blood to be spilt protecting them as they continue to yell abuse at those Russians who dared save them from the Nazis... because these new allies of yours liked the nazis...
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    Post  George1 on Fri May 24, 2019 2:35 pm

    Russia to take counter-measures over US radar deployment in Norway

    Military preparations near the Russian borders cannot be ignored, Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said

    MOSCOW, May 23. /TASS/. Russia reserves the right to take retaliatory measures over the deployment of a US radar in Norway, Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Thursday.

    "It is obvious that military preparations near the borders, be it the Russian or some other’s border, cannot be ignored by our country, like by any other country. We proceed from the fact that retaliatory measures will be taken to ensure our security," the diplomat stressed.

    "The talk is about the US Globus II radar. The radar station is based just 50 km from the border with Russia and is serviced by the military intelligence of Norway," Zakharova said.

    "It is no secret for anyone that the data received is transferred directly to the United States. In April 2016, the press release of the Norwegian armed forces said that the radar station would be upgraded in 2017-2020 to comprise a new radar [Globus III whose construction is currently underway]," the Russian diplomat said.

    Russia regularly raised this issue before the Norwegian side, Zakharova pointed out.

    "Norwegian officials get away from explaining for what purposes the upgraded station will be used. They confine themselves to the statements that the radar system ‘generally is not aimed against Russia," although it is located 50 km from Russia, the diplomat said.

    "There are all grounds to believe that the radar will be tracking precisely the territory of the Russian Federation and will become a part of the US missile shield," the spokeswoman said.

    "It is obvious that the deployment of the US radar in that area is not a purely Norwegian issue. This relates to the general context of keeping stability and predictability in the North," the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman stressed.


    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/1059798
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