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    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:57 pm

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:41 pm

    George1 wrote:The NATO multinational force grouping in Poland and the Baltics

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    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2829113.html


    This map is very incomplete for Poland as there is now a U.S. Army armored brigade stationed at Drawsko Pomorskie and Zagan in the western Poland since January of 2017, and there is some USAF unit(s) stationed at the Lask Air Base in central Poland since 2012.

    Have no idea why these units have not been included.

    Perhaps because they are not "multi-national"?
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:49 pm



    The U.S. military presence in Poland is actually even greater than what I mentioned above.


    Map of the U.S. and NATO Military Presence in Poland.


    http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wojska-nato-i-usa-w-polsce-infografika/w3rtmlr


    It is in Polish, but you might still understand some of it.
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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:05 pm

    Gear still pouring into Rotterdam from the US, likely on its way to the east. It certainly won't stay in the Low Countries.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:01 am




    U.S. Military Triples Anti-RPG Weapons on Europe-bound Tanks


    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/04/12/army-triples-abrams-tank-rpg-killing-weapons-bound-for-europe.html


    They are getting ready to fight Russia.


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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:52 am

    Perhaps they want to get involved in the Ukraine... this will be interesting...
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    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:19 am

    NATO Launches Massive, 20,000-Strong Exercise in Eastern Europe Citing 'Russian Threat'


    Meanwhile the German daily Die Welt reports that NATO is preparing to deploy a 30,000-strong reserve force, plus hundreds of warplanes and vessels for quick deployment ostensibly on fears of Russia invasion

    A massive U.S.-led military war drill with more than 18,000 soldiers from 19 NATO member states, has begun across Poland and the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    The U.S. Army Europe said Monday that Saber Strike 18 exercise has commenced, and "brings full-scale battle simulations for the service members involved to enhance their real-world military occupations and deployment logistics strategies.

    The war drill will take place in the Baltic states from June 03-15 as “a demonstration of the commitment and solidarity of the Alliance" at a time when Russia’s military is "increasingly threatening NATO members."

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    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/nato-launches-massive-20000-strong-exercise-eastern-europe-citing-russian-threat/ri23714
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    Post  Airbornewolf on Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:10 am

    George1 wrote:

    NATO Launches Massive, 20,000-Strong Exercise in Eastern Europe Citing 'Russian Threat'



    Meanwhile the German daily Die Welt reports that NATO is preparing to deploy a 30,000-strong reserve force, plus hundreds of warplanes and vessels for quick deployment ostensibly on fears of Russia invasion

    A massive U.S.-led military war drill with more than 18,000 soldiers from 19 NATO member states, has begun across Poland and the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    The U.S. Army Europe said Monday that Saber Strike 18 exercise has commenced, and "brings full-scale battle simulations for the service members involved to enhance their real-world military occupations and deployment logistics strategies.

    The war drill will take place in the Baltic states from June 03-15 as “a demonstration of the commitment and solidarity of the Alliance" at a time when Russia’s military is "increasingly threatening NATO members."

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    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/nato-launches-massive-20000-strong-exercise-eastern-europe-citing-russian-threat/ri23714

    From what i heard the only war the NATO forces where fighting where with the local population and going-out establishments. Americans urinating on local monuments, throwing fights. Even some Dutch troops where send home after "disturbances" and "violating the no-drink protocol" and where discharged from service.

    These exercises are getting rediculous shows of pure window dressing for the media. Rarely anything works as it should and logistical structure behind the exercise almost does not excist. if something gets broken and they require spare parts, first thing they get told if is "oh well, just drag it down to the train depot and it will be shipped back when the exercise is over".

    American Hardware is not doing any better, they just painted the vehicles with fresh paint so it looks good after it came back from other warzones. Meanwhile it crews rightfully so complain that most vehicles themselves need some serious overhaul to get them suitable for combat. ranging from electical failures, mechanical wear and tear and likely faults in armor after enduring expose to the elements for long periods of time and weapon impacts during deployments.

    Every time i read the headlines here in the West of "NATO exercise to show Russia our Teeth" and hearing what really the sorry state is of the forces participating in them. i just shake my head and hope the Russians know and get a good laugh out of it.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:57 pm

    Major accident on German frigate Sachsen

    SM-2 missile failed to leave launcher.
    Bridge, Deck and Launcher burned and sustained damage, fortunately no casualties.

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    Post  andalusia on Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:31 pm

    I was watching a show called GPS on CNN and it was saying that Eastern European countries like Poland, Romania and a few Baltic State countries I think either Estonia or Lithuania are increasing their military budget and doing military exercises in response to Russia. This program cited that Russia doing military exercises near the border and that such exercises always followed a land grab such as in Georgia and Ukraine. I want to know is this propaganda and what is the truth. It painted Russia and Putin in a negative light and that the US should support these countries.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:07 pm






    In Poland there is no money for the disabled and handicap people and their families, or for the homeless, but there is always money for Ukrainians and the U.S. military (recently the Polish government actually offered to pay for stationing of the U.S. troops in Poland, by comparison in the much richer  U.K., Italy, Germany, and other countries in Europe it is the U.S. military that pays a rent for using the bases in these countries).


    The Polish military is rabble, like the whole country, you need connections to join it, there is no longer conscription. It is not what you know, but who you know. Lots of physically strong people get rejected, but many weaklings are accepted because they have connections. Similar with the Polish Police.


    Poland has an extremely low civilian gun ownership rate, one of the lowest in the world. Many people in Poland do not like that, they would like to legally obtain guns, but the government is not doing anything about it. If someone decides to invade Poland, Poles will have nothing to defend themselves with. Also, the German-Ukrainian mafia "Civic Platform" government sold out at very low prices all the "untouchable" reserves of armaments during 2010-2015.


    They tried to create a "Territorial Defence" recently, but apparently its creation is currently suspended.


    So this sorts of sums up Poland.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:52 am

    The Polish Navy in full force on the exercises "Anakonda 2018" off the coast of the Kaliningrad region

    The major NATO military exercises Anakonda-2018 begin in Poland on Wednesday, November 15, 2018. For the Polish armed forces, they will become the largest maneuvers in 2018. The stated goal of the exercises is the integration of national and allied command structures and troops to achieve the ability to conduct a strategic defensive operation in the face of conventional and hybrid threats. Their peculiarity is the working out of the interaction of military authorities with civilian bodies and individual elements of NATO command structures.

    According to official information, about 12,500 troops will take part in the exercises in Poland, about 5,000 more will take part in Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia and in the Baltic Sea. The total number of soldiers stationed in the training area will be about 100 thousand. 5 thousand units of various equipment, 45 ships, 150 planes and helicopters will be involved. The training arena will be the military sites of Poland and the Baltic countries, international airspace and the Baltic Sea. For the first time in history, Anakonda exercises will be held in Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. The main phase of the exercise will be divided into two phases: LIVEX - the exercise of the troops on November 7-16, and the CPX - command and staff exercises from November 26 to December 6. The transfer and concentration of troops to participate in the exercises began in September.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:21 pm



    The US and its NATO minions make much noise about "weapons of mass destruction".   But you can see that they are bloody hypocrites
    since they are attempting to deploy weapons of genocide.    Chemical weapons and even nuclear weapons are limited area devices
    (nobody is deploying continent destroying nuclear weapons).    A bioweapon designed to exterminate a certain gene profile is an
    unlimited area weapon since it is designed to use disease vectoring (i.e. it propagates as far as there are victims).  

    Russia needs to stop dancing with these rotten psychopaths and start deploying enough nukes to achieve 99% destruction of NATO
    via attack on every village, town and city.    I am talking about 100,000s of warheads.    If NATO pulls any sort of "final solution"
    attempt it deserves to be finally solved itself.
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    Post  Isos on Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:20 pm

    Are you aware that Russia has labs developing or officially making research on very dangerous virus(es?) (Not sur if we say viruses in english) that have no treatement.

    Best answer to biological attack is biological attack.

    But such weapon, once released is impossible to stop. That's very well known on both side, that's why they never deployed any chemical weapon.

    An accident with a nuk warhead won't make it explode. An incident with any biological virus will have desastrous consequencies for the planet because people travel everyday and are in contact everywhere.

    If a country is really in danger, treathening of using biological weapons can be more usefull than nuks.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:09 am

    Lithuania is first Baltic nation to sign US defense-cooperation pact

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/04/03/lithuania-is-first-baltic-nation-to-sign-us-defense-cooperation-pact/
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:50 am

    Well the amusing thing is that once released all the Russians need to do is get a victim that has been infected and change the targeting component to target another aspect of the gene... perhaps the jewish portion or the european portions that make up most of the population in the west...

    It would actually be the ideal weapon because Russian people could carry that strain of virus and not be effected but any westerners would be infected and die.

    Well of course imagine if they get it wrong and instead of killing it creates zombies... oh the americans would love that... till they got it and then they would not want it any more... a bit like war... it is interesting to read about and seems heroic and exciting, but it is more about fear and death and unfairness of random death and destruction.
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    Post  kvs on Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:31 am

    What the stellar intellects from the US and NATO are doing is creating new virus strains that will be unleashed on humanity
    and not just Russia. These stellar intellects have the IQ of bacteria themselves. As soon as any bio-engineered virus
    gets into the "wild" it will mutate and come to bite its makers in the ass. But stellar intellects in the west, high on their
    own koolaid, don't want to admit to the existence of a reality beyond their control.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:25 pm

    What they don't appreciate is that they might have these ideas but the structures that keep them in power and wealthy are made up of human beings and not all those human beings are monsters like them. Some have a conscience and a sense of right and wrong, a bit like certain famous whistle blowers that, from inside the organisations they worked in, they revealed the truth... people like Manning, and Snowden.

    Imagine, however if they are not information processors... they are biologists... and they are directly developing these plagues and decide to make an opposite gene attacking plague... in other words the opposite of what is asked for... so instead of wiping out Ruskies... it wipes out everyone else... hilarious... of course by the time we find out it will be too late to appreciate the joke... but well played...
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    Post  par far on Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:48 pm

    Ebola was one of the biological weapons created in these horrible labs and after a little while, it was Russia that found a cure for it and than after that we never heard about Ebola in the west main stream media.

    I think/hope that Russia is developing biological warfare capabilities as well and improving on them because biological warfare is coming. In Israel, they are testing new drugs and other stuff on Palestinians in jail and in India they are testing it on terrorists from Kashmir that are in jail. Maybe Russia can test it on captured Nazis from Ukraine Twisted Evil
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:14 am

    The bulolshit level here is amazing.

    1. Ebola was not created in a lab and no, not russia developed the vaccine. The vaccine ZEBOV was developed by MERCK INC

    All other Ebola vaccines deloped later on were all developed by american and european pharma corporations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_vaccine#rVSV-ZEBOV

    2. No, Ebola is not out of the news. The vaccine is expensive. Poor african countries cant afford it in large numbers. Another factor is, that africans traditions help spread Ebola. The people lack education.

    I noticed alot here spread bullshit without and scources, like Russia developing a Ebola vaccine, which is laughable.



    Such research is not done from states anymore. Its done by pharma corporations. And all those are american, french, british or german. There is not a single russian pharma corporation that plays even in the top 100.

    French Sanofi fo example is an absolute giant and russia by no means has the financial and technological prowess to compete with that.


    That said, each biological weapon consists from two components. The Virus and the Vaccine.

    CRISPR/CAS allows to program a Virus to target specific haplogroups.

    That doesnt mean you have to kill all russians. You ca program it to target speicific haplogroups and they get not killed be sterile or kill a large number of people.

    So what happenes then? In South Africa over 40% have HIV. You can see the devastating effect. The society slowly retreats.

    Something similar can be done in Russia. Its the soft method.

    But who would want that? Russia is a economic dwarf and pretty much isolated. The real target is the middle east and africa. Something must be done to thin the herd there. Thats a simple fact.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:01 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809pE_zYp5M

    NATO imperialists are issuing ultimatums to Russia about the Azov Sea.

    These are the same hypocrites that recognized the Albanian land grab of Serbia's Kosovo i Metohija and who ignore the Russian
    ethnic majority referendum to re-store their independence in Crimea.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:08 pm

    BTW, the NATO threats are a violation of international law. Even if Ukraine still controlled Crimea, the Azov Sea is not international
    waters and both Russia and Ukraine can veto the presence of 3rd party ships in the Kerch Strait and in the Azov Sea.

    Also, Russia is not stopping Ukrainian ships from going through the Kerch Strait. So what "freedom of navigation" is NATO going
    to impose?

    Ukraine has still not released the cargo ship Nord which it illegally seized. NATO clearly supports piracy.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:44 pm

    kvs wrote: 

    Ukraine has still not released the cargo ship Nord which it illegally seized.    NATO clearly supports piracy.

    A point that is forgotten when the US demands that the Russians release the UkieN ships.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:04 pm

    Nothing will happen. None of their ships are capable of traversing the waters of Azov sea through Kerch due to their large displacement. So instead, they will board with Ukrainian vessels but so long as they are having their papers and were given permission they will go through (and US will use it as propaganda anyway). BUT, if they do not, they will be blocked from entering anyway and US will cry foul instead. But in the end, nothing will happen. US will just use this as an excuse for more anti russian hysteria. But they know they cant do anything cause Russian assets in the region outweigh nato's as well, not everyone in NATO is quite on the same page either.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:06 am

    After seeing your face so many times on your posts I finally found the face of the person you reminded me of...

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    And a few corrections... western pharmaceutical companys don't make drugs that cure people any more... it is not profitable... they make treatments... well mostly they make adverts and bribe doctors to proscribe their snake oil even when it is not needed... most governments spend more on developing drugs than most drug companies.

    Some of the best Soviet chemists went to live the comfortable life in the west when the Soviet Union broke down, but I am sure these people working within the US MIC recognise the risk such drugs will present to them and their families and the rabid anti Russian western media will either turn them if they are stupid or make them secretive and sneaky if the are not stupid... not many will be stupid though they obviously believed the american dream BS at some point to go there...

    But you continue with your little bubble of western culture... the pinnacle of US quality leadership last election was Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump... what a choice... I am sure in his second term he will be much nicer to the european allies that all said they could work with Hilary and that Trump was a joke... did they think he was going to forget?

    The sanctions and incompetence of western drug companies looking for treatments instead of cures will lead Russia to develop its own sector further and lead to much better much cheaper much more affordable alternatives for the rest of the world...

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