Russian Navy: Status and News #6

Not to mention the fact that a decent naval gun in that calibre with fully automated loading is your best bet to mount a swarm attack on an enemy force... even just with one turret with perhaps two guns you could fire probably two dozen shells on different trajectories that would allow them to all arrive on target almost together, so the target might have to engage dozens of targets at once with each shell guided and packing a 50-60kg plus payload of HE and metal fragments... a normal 203mm round is 100-120kgs so if even half of that is fuel and a ramjet motor and guidance systems, you still have 50-60kgs for the payload.

It could use airbrakes for steering or some sort of engine thrust vectoring for the ramjet to aim and manouver... you could have one round that is simply solid all the way through... they could hit it with multiple SAMs and not destroy it with fragments of a proximity fused SAM.

Russkie are in the process of a drastic increase of armed forces financing, only because of the size increase. We talk about 30% hike, while Shoigu was saying something about 50% budget increase.
I wouldn't be worried too much about the project financing liquidity, honestly.

What positive trends are you writing about, gentleman ? Well, since November 2007 (Steregushchiy was commissioned), the Russians managed to put into service only 7 corvettes of project 20380 and one of project 20385.

Well, I see that from a different perspective bro.
Russkie are doing as much as they can to further lower the need of having a navy anyway.
But sure they will have one, and sure it will be 3rd naval force on the planet. Maybe 2nd, as Murica will collapse and a civil war will be carried out there - who knows, imagine I am a dreamer

The task they had was how to avoid multiple mistakes made in tsarists and commie times - a huge fleet that was separated and could have been just overwhelmed one by one at theatres distanced by 10kkm.

They did. They bloody did.

A whole Russian coastline is perfectly safe, with multiple land based AShMs brigades.
Russian airforce can create a denial zone 2000 km offshore. Not a single ship will survive there.

Objectively, they are doing extravaganza now.

The new ships take a lot of testing because they are multipurpose multifunction vessels that can be used in an enormous range of roles.

Previous gen Corvettes were anti sub or anti ship but not both and none could attack land based targets with long range cruise missiles...

Submarines are very useful and effective during war time and for sneaky recon during peace time, but you need a decent surface fleet to protect your commerce with the world... submarines would be totally useless in such a role and would start wars.

If UK or US or French military ships are stopping Russian trading ships and searching them and seizing them for carrying something they have decided is contraband or for breaking western sanctions WTF is a sub going to do about it?

Sinking those western ships would be an act of war and there is not much else a sub could do other that monitor and report what is happening.

Even a Corvette can approach and warn western ships away from Russian flagged vessels and also fire a few harmless warning shots with its guns if needed.

Submarines are needed but surface ships are more useful in peace time... which is the period of which Russia wants to grow and develop and trade with the world.

To ALAMO...

Bro, nothing of what I wrote is critical, but to write that everything is ideal also makes no sense.
Frankly, I am indifferent to frigates and they will never have the importance that 885M submarines have.. Frigates are important but submarines are even more important..
Cheers to you bro thumbsup

Naah, it is not a critical/ideal ratio issue.
Only the real needs.
I do get the message that you are a fleet lover

So, it's right to criticise what still doesn't work but don't just became all Doomers.

There are two factors for consideration.
The first one is how Russia is going to carry out its trade whatsoever. Second is how they are supposed to use a navy other than presenting the banner, and why.
For years now, Russkie are determined to redirect maximal amount of trade to its internal space. NSR is being expanded at an insane rate, and that applies to infrastructure, fleet, navy, and army. "Infrastructure" is a euphemism because we talk not only about ned ports, railways, and airports - but assisting satellites, retranslation systems, communication, and optic fiber cables pulled along the entire northern RF border.
BAM railway is expanded at insane rate, it will gain some triple the capacity.
An alternative railway is being constructed up in the north, a project that even the Soviet Union was forced to cease facing the environmental conditions.
New Caspian N-S transportation corridor will be finally constructed.
Very soon, we will face a reality, when all tradable goods from/to Europe will have an alternative to travel double the distance, or being supplied by routes that Russia controls.
And all of that will work at minimal naval presence only. Entire NSR and railway corridors will be fully controlled and covered by Russia, while N-S Caspian route will be carried at standard, commercial regulations. The area is already covered by Iranian and Indian navy, so there will be hardly a need of Russian expanded presence there.
The other factor leads to a conclusion, that Russian Navy has only one serious, strategic goal - it is securing the strategic submarine's operational potential. It can be executed with minimal expenses, as the weapon systems those carry can operate globally without even leaving the bay.
As I said, I have no doubts that the WMF will be the third navy on the planet, but hardly can explain that in practical meaning.

Actually those solid state batteries they were working on that are heat resistant that allows very high voltage fast charging would be very useful for subs allowing them to charge very very quickly without the risk of overheating and destroying the batteries.