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    Prigozhin mutiny thread

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    Post  Isos Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:39 pm

    The guy is now in Belarus with an army stronger than Lukachenko's army.

    Maybe the coup will be there. Or he jeeps Lukachenko calm because it is not the great love with Putin those last years.
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    Post  DerWolf Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:48 pm

    The comander of Wagner made quite a intrigue speech yesterday.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:41 am

    Isos wrote:The guy is now in Belarus with an army stronger than Lukachenko's army.

    Maybe the coup will be there. Or he jeeps Lukachenko calm because it is not the great love with Putin those last years.

    Andrey Kartopolov is an influential member of the Duma, he is the Russian Duma Defense Committee chair

    Basically he is a western military district officer who is high up, what he says is influential and he would not say something without being sure

    He said on Solovyov live, that Wagner is in Belarus to capture the suwalki gap, should conflict erupt with NATO

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    The camp is located near the village of Tsel, in the  Osipovichesky district of Belarus.  This is also the base location of a Belarusian regular army unit, the 465th Tactical Ballistic Missile Brigade where Russian Iskander missiles are also located with combined Belarusian and Russian security

    It's very serious that Wagner is stationed at the same site where Iskander nuclear missiles are stationed

    All of the Wagner fighters are the ones who signed contracts with the Ministry of Defense - about 30,000 have signed contracts, and they are moving throughout Belarus in large numbers

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    Post  lyle6 Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:11 am

    Oh my god, he's actually doing it. He's really doing it.

    Prigozhin's going...

    Nuclear:


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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:37 am


    He said on Solovyov live, that Wagner is in Belarus to capture the suwalki gap, should conflict erupt with NATO

    He might be anti Putin but I am sure the troops of Wagner would like to get the chance to deal with the HATO countries that have been supplying weapons and money to the nazis they were killing...

    Wagner being based near nuclear weapons means nothing other than they offer a bit of protection if any enemy decided to use the conflict in the Ukraine to try to attack these weapons in Belarus... like they did with attacking airfields that had strategic bombers based in... which led to Russia stopping complying with the new start treaty in terms of US inspections to find targets for Nazi terrorists.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:37 am


    So one of Grain Silo in Odessa not taken out ? Live and let live ? You would think so , if you were a Ukrainian farmer with a voice in politics , but not if you were 007 , James Bond . Then you would live and let die ! As I suspect is , what will happen . Yet another proof of the nature of this war . But we shall see . So Russia decided not to Nuke the Nazi madmen firing cluster munitions ? Only reply in kind. Pistols at dawn , at ten paces . Russia will reply by using a greater number of it's own cluster munitions . I hope with a 100% dud rate ! Poor quality of Russian Arms .
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:42 am

    Are you on drugs?

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    Post  nomadski Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:59 am

    Yes drunk . Why , are you not ?


    And another thing I have in common with Pirigozin , we were both born in 1961 . Long before you were born . LOL .



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NR0UmZcf89E&pp=ygUQTGl2ZSBhbmQgbGV0IGRpZQ%3D%3D


    https://historydaily.org/drunks-debates-ancient-persia
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    Post  Hole Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:56 am

    https://sonar21.com/dogs-squirrels-the-west-and-prigozhin/

    Johnson: My view is that Prigozhin is a dandified squirrel with the sole mission of getting NATO and the rest of the morons in the West to chase him around the tree. By focusing almost exclusively on this sneaky, crafty little bastard, the NATO forces are not looking at the real threats posed by the rest of the Russian Army.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:26 pm


    Yes Johnson the Piglet face , the question for them is : Are they ( killer ) Squirrels or not ?


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q7U2aVUAqPI&pp=ygUXa2lsbGVyIHNxdWlycmVsIGNhcnRvb24%3D


    LOL .
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    Post  Sujoy Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:29 pm

    Pakistan to supply 200 containers of Chinese designed 122mm rockets to Ukraine via Poland's ports.

    British defence ministry is paying for this deal.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:44 pm

    So one of Grain Silo in Odessa not taken out ?

    Russia agreed to the grain deal because they benefit from it if the west honours its side of the bargain. They have given the west 60 or 90 days to start delivering on everything they promised and if they do then Russia will return to the deal... unlikely for the west to do that if Russia destroys the ports and grain infrastructure.

    I don't think the west will do it any way but Russia can say to the Global south that even after the deal expired and we extended it twice they didn't hold up their end of the bargain and now we give them more time and they don't so it is clear they are the problem and not us.

    The west got Russia to sign it in the first place because Russia would benefit if the west held up its end of the bargain... but it had no intention to do so... just like Minsk it was temporary so they could smuggle shit into the Ukraine and also mount attacks on Crimea from the Black Sea... they didn't think the war would take this long.

    It was the same with the agreement with Iran... they never expected it to last long enough for the restrictions of trade were taken off and Iran could buy anything it wanted so they broke the deal and put the sanctions back on.

    Johnson: My view is that Prigozhin is a dandified squirrel with the sole mission of getting NATO and the rest of the morons in the West to chase him around the tree. By focusing almost exclusively on this sneaky, crafty little bastard, the NATO forces are not looking at the real threats posed by the rest of the Russian Army.

    First of all Johnson is a dick, but secondly even if he was right Russia doesn't need to distract the west from how powerful the Russian Army is because the west doesn't understand because it believes its own propaganda.

    Pakistan to supply 200 containers of Chinese designed 122mm rockets to Ukraine via Poland's ports.

    Just more target practise...

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    Post  nomadski Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:51 pm

    "....The European ground squirrel could be confused with the speckled ground squirrel which occurs in Poland (Lublin Voivodeship), Romania, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, but that species has dark brown fur spotted with white and a thin tail and lives in areas with coarser vegetation.[5]....."


    Uhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ground_squirrel
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:36 pm

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    The latest picture of the Wagner camp at the 465th Tactical Missile Brigade Base of Belarus with nuclear iskander

    🇷🇺🇧🇾 The Wagner PMC camp near Osipovichi is expanding every day.

    At the moment, at least 10,000 fighters have been deployed or will be redeployed to the territory of the Republic of Belarus.

    The entire contingent of 30,000+ which signed contracts with the MOD seem to be moved here

    Judging by Putins comments that NATO is looking at using Poles and Lithuanians, Wagner will be needed in Suwalki direction

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:31 pm

    So Prigozhin's surfaced, he's been attending the Russia-Africa summit in St. Petersburg today
    No need to remind anyone that Putin is chairing the same event.



    Was just a short exile for Mr. Prigozhin it seems, much to the confusion of dumbfounded Ukrainian commentators among others. All's fair, even steven, just water under the bridge Razz

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