Russian special military operation in Ukraine #25

thegopnik wrote:5,937 russian soldiers have died in war. Condolences.

That is much below what was expected.
Traffic accidents were 16+k in 2020 ...

I understand your fears homie. If my nation defending itself from regime change and balkanization I would fight whether the world cared or not. It is scary but your country needs you and in this case Russia is morally in the right. You can either flee and know you abandoned your countrymen and nation when it all needed you or go and be brave. Frankly if you are thinking of dipping out it is probably for the best. In scriptures God Almighty had a pretty simple set of parameters for soldiers. If they were just married or bought property that year and had not enjoyed their fruits or got their wife pregnant then they could be excused from conflict. Likewise if someone was a coward they could likewise be excused from combat. Frankly it 8s better for a smaller army with greater morale than a large army of those distracted or afraid.

God bless you flamming python. All other ruskies here. It is scary but your country truly does need you. My nation has been hijacked by godless traitors and it needs to face its sins or recieve a reckoning. If my country ever calls me to service involving this conflict I certainly wont support it in any way. We are in the wrong. I'm sorry what my country has done to your country. We need to oust our corrupt politicians. I pray the midterms turn out well.

As a rule I never take official numbers at face value, but the RU MoD data has consistently been far more realistic than the bonkers stuff UA puts out.

Shoigu's stated ~6k KIA on RU side and ~60k on UAs side does reflect the 1:10 relationship I assumed long ago.

That however excludes LDNR, RG, Wagner etc, who actually have carried out most of the fighting in several sectors. I would wager that total allied KIAs are around 15k all in all.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:As a rule I never take official numbers at face value, but the RU MoD data has consistently been far more realistic than the bonkers stuff UA puts out.

Shoigu's stated ~6k KIA on RU side and ~60k on UAs side does reflect the 1:10 relationship I assumed long ago.

That however excludes LDNR, RG, Wagner etc, who actually have carried out most of the fighting in several sectors. I would wager that total allied KIAs are around 15k all in all.

15 to 20 thousand killed most likely, but many more Ukronazis.

Apparently, Shoigu said this: 300k reservists will be mobilized, but this is not a one-time thing.

But what does the latter part of the sentance mean? Perhaps in Russian language it was clearer.
Does it mean "300k is the first part of mobilization but there may be more later, so 300k is not a one time thing"?
Or does it mean "300k can't be mobilized at once, so it will happen in several batches, so that's why 300k is not a one-time thing but several occurences over time which will accumulate to 300k" ?

Scorpius wrote:I can express in other words what I heard today:

2. Taking into account the announced ~6000 losses since the beginning of the military operation, the mobilization of 300,000 additional personnel means that in the next 6 months we can expect another ~ 18,000 killed Russian citizens in the war.

There is absolutely no way that 18k Russians will be killed in the next 6 months, it is not WWII style war anymore.

BTW, the latest research done by the two universities on Stars and Stripes shows that about 24 veterans killed themselves every day in USA(8760 per year), have you seen any American members on this forum ever worried about it?

kvs wrote:

Russian forces have not been doing most of the fighting.   The losses among the Donbass militia are much higher but
are not cited.   Anyway, the combined losses are much less than for Kiev.

They can't be much higher bro, as they don't have the numbers needed.
Stated losses are about 4k in the republican militia ranks, which is actually high if we consider that they have some 40-50k men in arms.
Not sure if the national guard is added to this, but that would still make some +/-10-12k KIA ratio, for half a year of highly intense and technically advanced conflict. That brings the ratios to 1:10+ at the moment, and I suppose the spread will only get higher, as it has already been since May.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:As a rule I never take official numbers at face value, but the RU MoD data has consistently been far more realistic than the bonkers stuff UA puts out.
Shoigu's stated ~6k KIA on RU side and ~60k on UAs side does reflect the 1:10 relationship I assumed long ago.
That however excludes LDNR, RG, Wagner etc, who actually have carried out most of the fighting in several sectors. I would wager that total allied KIAs are around 15k all in all.

The number is obviously higher for the Ukrs. It is not a coincidence that the western sources were floating around 200k a while ago. Sure that was bullshit at that stage, but we had more reports from the Ukro side that they hit 100k a long time ago.
Only now, there is constantly whining around the TG about how they have lost "10k" in Charkov only.
Cherson is much worse than that, and we still have an assault in Donbas going - that brings me the conclusion that only in September they hit a 25k KIA, and counting. We can double the numbers Shoigu gave without even blinking.

sepheronx wrote:Well Python, good luck.

If you are called up, I got a list of items I need you to grab for me while you are sent to the frontlines.  Don't worry, I will send ya the money one way or another.

Why don't you just send me some money now, so that I can hire myself some hookers and have a good time? M'kay?

flamming_python wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Well Python, good luck.

If you are called up, I got a list of items I need you to grab for me while you are sent to the frontlines.  Don't worry, I will send ya the money one way or another.

Why don't you just send me some money now, so that I can hire myself some hookers and have a good time? M'kay?

That would be pushing you to make nasty things

How does mobilization work in terms of organization? Will new units (divisions, armies) be raised?

TMA1 wrote:

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Bytheway has anyway seen Gaz lately? Or is he already on route to Wellington Airport?

Bless you all!

Unlike you, I do not hold allegiance to the geopolitics and policies of globohomo. I am a patriot to what is left of the American republic. You and fellow antichrist bootlickers and haters of nation states can **** off. You have been exposed as a tool of wickedness. You are serving the transnational elites. You are a patriot to no people or nation. As a nationalist I will support those resisting the unipolar, godless dinosaur that has all but destroyed my once God blessed nation.

Man, was that cringe. You sound like Alex Jones - who bytheway was big buddies with A. Dugin and interviewed him not 1 but 4 times on Russian soil. I hope I don't have to spell out the consequences for you.

If you only knew about yer boii VVP.. Who do you think put him in the Kremlin in the first place? As usual all the lines run straight up to good old Heinz Kissinger through his best buddy former KGB chief Yevgeniy Primakov - two men the shills here prefer not to talk about. One can guess why.

If you think Russia is against the NWO you are not only mistaken, you are plain dumb. Does any news about the Russian break neck speed developments about Digital IDs, CBDCs, facial recognition patterns in public transportation, a shift to insect based protein and all of the other pillars of TGR ever reach this godforsaken board?

Not to mention his stance on Covid1984 - which was not to far south of Justine Trudeau's?

Jesus.

Just take the plane and put your money where your mouth it.

But don't forget to Google 'WEF multipolarity' first. I'll give you the first two hits right here

Russian Defense Minister clarifies that partial mobilization is limited to those who
• have served in the army;
• have a military occupational specialty;
• have combat experience.

People who are currently on conscription are not subject to mobilization. Additionally, university students would not be mobilized under any circumstances.

mnrck wrote:Defence Minister Shoigu Breaks Down Military Mobilization

300,000 reservists will be called up - roughly 1% of the mobilisation resource available
70 military and 200+ civilian satellites, entire NATO alliance, working in the interests of Kiev
Ukraine mobilised nearly 300,000 people - but has lost almost half its army
Def Min says Russia has lost 5,937 personnel since start of operation
Conscription will not impact students - only those within reserve army or with required expertise or experience

BREAKING @RT_India_official

LMFS wrote:

Well you seem to be making a huge drama out of a partial mobilization. Do you have special military abilities?

I'm not acting out a drama-I'm voicing my concerns based on an analysis of the data available to me. I'm trying to look a little further than tomorrow. I point out potentially dangerous trends that can lead to an extremely negative scenario of events.
Nothing to do with drama, you know.

I am not sure all the grandiose military events some are forecasting will materialize, as said economy is priority number one and Russia is not going to lose their head and mobilize the whole population all of a sudden. The military is about to receive the responsibility of guaranteeing security in new territories that are under attack by the nazis and they need more staff, simple as that. The West will try to force Russia to escalate more and more, but they don't really have the means to do that safely for them

Intel Slava Z
Over the past three weeks, more than 7,000 Ukrainian military, 970 pieces of equipment, including 208 tanks, have been destroyed during a special operation - Shoigu

Scorpius wrote:

LMFS wrote:

Well you seem to be making a huge drama out of a partial mobilization. Do you have special military abilities?

I'm not acting out a drama-I'm voicing my concerns based on an analysis of the data available to me. I'm trying to look a little further than tomorrow. I point out potentially dangerous trends that can lead to an extremely negative scenario of events.
Nothing to do with drama, you know.

War IS an extremely dangerous trend and an extremely negative scenario. Right up there with famine, pestilence and disease.

But lose a war and your troubles won't stop there. Ask the Libyans how they lived during Qaddafi and after him.

mnrck wrote:Russian Defense Minister clarifies that partial mobilization is limited to those who
• have served in the army;
• have a military occupational specialty;
• have combat experience.

People who are currently on conscription are not subject to mobilization. Additionally, university students would not be mobilized under any circumstances.

mnrck wrote:Defence Minister Shoigu Breaks Down Military Mobilization

300,000 reservists will be called up - roughly 1% of the mobilisation resource available
70 military and 200+ civilian satellites, entire NATO alliance, working in the interests of Kiev
Ukraine mobilised nearly 300,000 people - but has lost almost half its army
Def Min says Russia has lost 5,937 personnel since start of operation
Conscription will not impact students - only those within reserve army or with required expertise or experience

BREAKING @RT_India_official

Seems he's saying either has a specialty, or has combat experience. But prior service seems to be a firm requirement.

I heard of an entire workshop at a factory getting call-up notices already though. Apparently those notices arrive the previous night. Could be bullshit. But a friend said she knew about the mobilization orders last night as well.

ASB Military News
Summarization of statements of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation

All attempts of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Nikolaev-Kryvyi Rih direction have been stopped.
The Izyum-Balakleyskaya grouping has been transferred to the Donbass to strengthen the strike capabilities of the Russian troops.
Over the past 3 weeks, over 7,000 Ukrainian militants, 970 pieces of equipment, including 208 tanks, have been destroyed during the special operation.
The NATO bloc continues to move towards the Russian borders.

Vladimir Putin from January 1, 2023 instructed to increase the number of the Russian Armed Forces by 137,000 servicemen, who will equip the new military formations.
The time has come to put into practice the experience gained during the annual strategic exercises
The RF Armed Forces will continue the special military operation until the goals are fully achieved.
The combat strength of the Russian Airborne Forces will be increased.

ASB Military News
Mobilization in the Russian Federation begins today. Only men with military experience/training are liable for service.

“All means of destruction, including nuclear ones, will be used in case of a threat to the territorial integrity of Russia, this is not a bluff. The peaceful solution did not suit the West. After reaching certain compromises, Kyiv was actually given a direct order to disrupt all agreements.” - Putin


“The government of the Russian Federation must immediately solve the problems of financial support for the defense industry in order to increase the production of weapons,” - Putin


“The legal status of volunteers and militiamen of Donbass should be the same as that of regular Russian military personnel” - Putin

"Issues of supply and maintenance of the People's Militia and volunteer units of Donbass must be resolved immediately and provided at the highest level." - Putin

Def Min says Russia has lost 5,937 personnel since start of operation

So that tracking done by the BBC and Russian pro-western activists looks fairly accurate (6200-6400) if Rosgvardia are included.

Good . Surge in numbers and forces may be needed from time to time . Once progress is made , then they can be scaled back . If it was me , I would send a third of this force , through Belorussia ( together with some of their forces ) to close border with Poland , supply them through that territory , without having to send land Army , all the way through Ukraine to the West . This will by itself stop arms supply from NAZTO . Then two thirds of this force to LDPR , to finally liberate it . I would later launch a marine landing in Odessa to liberate that territory . Now is also the time to send special units into towns and cities , to go house to house and hunt NAZI filth .