Russian special military operation in Ukraine #12

Eugenio Argentina wrote:The forum has already been filled with messages that do not contribute anything.
It would be better not to write anything without having some proof.
Otherwise, it ends up becoming a dump, where some interested in muddying the court with their lies come.

PapaDragon wrote:

zorobabel wrote:...Maybe someone with insight into the Kremlin can explain how 80k Russian soldiers are supposed to defeat 500k Ukrainian soldiers, marines, militia, and civil defense fighters.

Bombs

Lots and lots of bombs

But they need to start using them

littlerabbit wrote:Considering the loss of the BSF flagship, cruiser Moscow, I can only repeat what Michael Caine said in one of his movies: It's a bloody disaster.  


Considering other war/SO developments, it's very slow and pretty sloppy. A lot of sensless actions and manouvres, in my opinion. Of course, I'm not a military man, so it's natural that I don't understand a lot of stuff going on, but still...it doesn't look very good, in my opinion.

Also, what's about the news Shoygu had a heart attack today? Is that another fake or something else?

And WTF with those negotiations and making deals with nazi morons in the middle of the military operation, what kind of political strategy is that?

Frankly, it looks to me like they started with totally wrong tactic/strategy and someone will have to pay for it.

On the other hand, it could be a brilliant strategy, which will give excellent results very soon. I really hope I'm wrong and everything is going on according to a plan.

Sorry about this, guys, but I'm really pissed off right now.  

Arkanghelsk wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Lots of strikes in Kiev, power partially out there

Something huge burning in Zhitomir, looks like another fuel depot

And the Ukrs have set something ablaze in Belgorod too

Looks like phase 2 of the operation has started

Or should I say plan C. As it looks like their plans for the Donbass have been rendered meaningless by the Moskva sinking and Kiev trying to call their bluff about striking Russian territory

Wonder if we'll get a landing in Odessa, new advance on Kiev from Belarus, encirclement of Nikolayev now

**** yeah it's bout time , shame it took all this to get it on

Really hope we didn't lose Moskva for kramatorsk and slavyansk only

We need the whole pie now, zelu head on a platter

limb wrote:Bottom line is that there should be a stalinesque purge of the Russian navy leadership since they're so incompetent to lose their high value cruiser.

**** your anticommunism. This is what happens to the Russian military when it's capitalist.

Firebird wrote:I think people need to calm down about the Moskva.
It seems the storm, a fire and ordnance accident caused the problem.Far far bigger ships than the Moskva sink in merchant navy quite often.

Let alone an old ship thats being worked harder in this environment.

Russia has many other vessels to call upon without having the hassle of the Montreux Convention re Istanbul. It has plenty of modern frigates and corvettes, all very powerful and capable. From the Black Sea Fleet AND the Caspian Flotilla.
It also has land bridges from Kherson and Crimea and Nikolaev for the Odessa area.
Banderastanis would be stupid to move substantial numbers about because of Russia's vast air superiority.

Sadly things happen in war. But thankfully human casualties were pretty low. And there is not a very significant loss. Meanwhile the Banderascum are haemorraging huge losses every day. People need to RELAX!

Arkanghelsk wrote:Bro , Biden gave us a green light the day he said he wasn't going in

Why we wasted time with A and B is beyond me

Regular wrote:I don't understand few things in this operation.

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Why Russia didn't start with a bombing campaign and let their strategic aviation from the leash?

Regular wrote:Russia barely does anything to disrupt Ukrainian mobilization attempts and I believe with 1000+ sorties per day Russia could have ended Ukrainian efforts short. It would be highly demoralizing and even if it would bring destruction, most of it will be in the western parts.

Regular wrote:What was the point of the Northern advance? It was noted many times that they will have to retreat due to troop shortages, not only Strelkov said that.

These things I don't understand and it does look like political decisions rather than what military would want.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Bro , Biden gave us a green light the day he said he wasn't going in

Why we wasted time with A and B is beyond me

limb wrote:
No Russian warships we're lost in the winter war. Let that sink in.

Regular wrote:
What was the point of the Northern advance? It was noted many times that they will have to retreat due to troop shortages, not only Strelkov said that.

zorobabel wrote:
Maybe I have misread the news, but apparently there is some weird condition that only volunteer (contract) soldiers can serve in Ukraine. So of Russia's 1.2 million active soldiers or so, it is gimped to less than 150k..

Azi wrote:

limb wrote:
No Russian warships we're lost in the winter war. Let that sink in.

A russian battleship in a finnish lake? This was a land war!

limb wrote:

Firebird wrote:I think people need to calm down about the Moskva.
It seems the storm, a fire and ordnance accident caused the problem.Far far bigger ships than the Moskva sink in merchant navy quite often.

Let alone an old ship thats being worked harder in this environment.

Russia has many other vessels to call upon without having the hassle of the Montreux Convention re Istanbul. It has plenty of modern frigates and corvettes, all very powerful and capable. From the Black Sea Fleet AND the Caspian Flotilla.
It also has land bridges from Kherson and Crimea and Nikolaev for the Odessa area.
Banderastanis would be stupid to move substantial numbers about because of Russia's vast air superiority.

Sadly things happen in war. But thankfully human casualties were pretty low. And there is not a very significant loss. Meanwhile the Banderascum are haemorraging huge losses every day. People need to RELAX!

No Russian warships we're lost in the winter war. Let that sink in.

Stealthflanker wrote:So i heard BSF commander was arrested. i wonder if that true ?