Russian special military operation in Ukraine #8

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates

1) There can be no compromise on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and will not be - President Zelensky

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates

1) There can be no compromise on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and will not be - President Zelensky

2) Governor of Belgorod region confirmed "incident with explosions" at Krasnyi Oktabr village near Belgorod

Russian media: 4 servicemen wounded as result of projectile hit in Belgorod region

3) U.S. believes any movement of Russian forces from around Kyiv is a 'redeployment, not a withdrawal', world should be prepared for continued major offensives on other areas in Ukraine, U.S. official says

4) Peace talks in Istanbul: in exchange for its neutrality, Ukraine wants security guarantees analogues to NATO's article 5 – if attacked, it has a right to demand consultations, and if diplomacy fails, signees of the agreement must provide military aid and "even close the sky"

5) Russian boat pictured today at Antonivsky bridge near Kherson

d_taddei2 wrote:4) Peace talks in Istanbul: in exchange for its neutrality, Ukraine wants security guarantees analogues to NATO's article 5 – if attacked, it has a right to demand consultations, and if diplomacy fails, signees of the agreement must provide military aid and "even close the sky"

miketheterrible wrote:See, Ukraine isn't even trying.

They wont negotiate any peace deal.  They just get more and more stupid demands.

Big_Gazza wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates

1) There can be no compromise on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and will not be - President Zelensky

4) Peace talks in Istanbul: in exchange for its neutrality, Ukraine wants security guarantees analogues to NATO's article 5 – if attacked, it has a right to demand consultations, and if diplomacy fails, signees of the agreement must provide military aid and "even close the sky"

So its confirmed.  The negotiations are going absolutely nowhere and the Ukrop are intent on prolonging their agonies right until the bitter end.

So much for the Chicken Littles fretting and loosing feathers over the idea of Russia "softening its stance".....  

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates

1) There can be no compromise on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and will not be - President Zelensky

4) Peace talks in Istanbul: in exchange for its neutrality, Ukraine wants security guarantees analogues to NATO's article 5 – if attacked, it has a right to demand consultations, and if diplomacy fails, signees of the agreement must provide military aid and "even close the sky"

So its confirmed.  The negotiations are going absolutely nowhere and the Ukrop are intent on prolonging their agonies right until the bitter end.

So much for the Chicken Littles fretting and loosing feathers over the idea of Russia "softening its stance".....  

Thanks to Zelensky, Ukropi will now have to attempt to remove Kadyrov's 'kabob' from the back of their throats !

Arkanghelsk wrote: CIA analyst Larry Johnson suggested that the Russian encirclement of Kyiv over the past three weeks was intended to tie up significant Ukrainian resources so that Russia could conduct large-scale operations in the east and south.  Problem solved.

In his opinion, the remaining groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass and Kharkiv will become the next object of Russian efforts.  Eliminating them is the next task.

Sliver of truth from the Americans, well they must analyze soberly even for a moment to allow their puppets to get a bearing on what happens next

kvs wrote:

Krepost wrote:Wait.... Shoigu said they will concentrate on the Donbass....
The action will happen on another front: Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev or somewhere else.

The LDNR front is the priority.   All the other targets will open up after the regime army is destroyed here.  

I think Kharkov is the second highest priority after the LDNR front.  

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

PS there is this guy on Twitter, "Armchair Warlord" who's been reviewing the OSINT loss-tracker "Onyx" in several long threads and discovered a lot of dubious attributions.

In his latest, he said that out of some 60+ "confirmed" RU BMP-2 losses, only 12 seem to be actually reliably confirmed.

Krepost wrote:

I short:
- Damage is not as bad as portrayed by journalists and reporters (who sensationalize and dramatize everything).
- Only certain areas will need extensive repairs.
- Most damaged buildings are repairable as there is hardly any structural damage - just replace the windows, clean the sooth and a few other chores and people can move back in.
- Unlike Grozny, there is no need to completely build a new city - just lots of repairs to do.

Peace talks in Istanbul: in exchange for its neutrality, Ukraine wants security guarantees analogues to NATO's article 5 – if attacked, it has a right to demand consultations, and if diplomacy fails, signees of the agreement must provide military aid and "even close the sky" wrote:

Krepost wrote:Wait.... Shoigu said they will concentrate on the Donbass....
The action will happen on another front: Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev or somewhere else.