2022 Kazakhstan violent unrest

kvs wrote:

Godric wrote:Demands of the Protesters in Kazakhstan

1. Immediate release of all political prisoners
2. Full resignation of president and government
3. Political reforms : Creation of a Provisional Government of reputable and public citizens.
4. Withdrawal from all alliances with Russia

We were told this "democracy movement" is about "rise in fuel prices".  The govt already conceded that demand and revoked those prices. And yet the protests continue.  Point 4 looks like a grand geo-political objective.  big hints of colour revolution.

Well armed and trained protestors.   This is not a hint, this is proof.  

The price of LPG is no basis for any government to resign.  Especially in the face of an armed insurrection involving the murder
of police.  Frothing at the mouth western hypocrites can demand anything they want through their proxies.   Maybe the US
government should have resigned because of January 6, 2021 protests on Capitol Hill.   You know, it actually should have since
Biden won by electoral fraud.   But instead of this being any issue one year later, we have comparisons of the "riot" to 9/11
and Pearl Harbor.  

kvs wrote:Nazarbayev was a traitor to the people of Kazakhstan.  He was a dictator pushing his pro-west agenda on them.
He was a moron as well since playing footsie with the west does not secure power, it exposes you to regime change.
You help the west infiltrate its influence in your country and then they get rid of you to install a more dedicated
bootlick.  

PapaDragon wrote:Margarita Smyonan delivers excellent advice:

Of course we should help. We absolutely should help. But there are several conditions to make -- recognize Crimea (as Russian territory), return the Cyrillic alphabet, (and institute) Russian as a second state language, like in Kyrgyzst

West must stand up to Russia in Kazakhstan, opposition leader says

LONDON — The West must pull Kazakhstan out of Moscow’s orbit or Russian President Vladimir Putin will draw the Central Asian state into “a structure like the Soviet Union,” a former minister who is now a Kazakh opposition leader told Reuters.

Protests  that began as a response to a fuel price rise swelled this week into a broad movement against Nursultan Nazarbayev, who stepped aside as president in 2019 after decades in office but has remained the real power in Kazakhstan.

Mukhtar Ablyazov, a former banker and government minister who is leader of an opposition movement called Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan, said the West needed to enter the fray.

“If not, then Kazakhstan will turn into Belarus and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin will methodically impose his program – the recreation of a structure like the Soviet Union,” Ablyazov told Reuters in Russian from Paris. “The West should tear Kazakhstan away from Russia.”

“Russia has already entered, sent in troops. CSTO is Russia. This is an occupation by Russia,” he said.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/west-must-stand-up-to-russia-in-kazakhstan-opposition-leader-says

kvs wrote:Nazarbayev was a traitor to the people of Kazakhstan.  He was a dictator pushing his pro-west agenda on them.
He was a moron as well since playing footsie with the west does not secure power, it exposes you to regime change.
You help the west infiltrate its influence in your country and then they get rid of you to install a more dedicated
bootlick.  

PhSt wrote:It didn't take that long for the NATzO backed insurrectionists to reveal their true intentions  

West must stand up to Russia in Kazakhstan, opposition leader says

LONDON — The West must pull Kazakhstan out of Moscow’s orbit or Russian President Vladimir Putin will draw the Central Asian state into “a structure like the Soviet Union,” a former minister who is now a Kazakh opposition leader told Reuters.

Protests  that began as a response to a fuel price rise swelled this week into a broad movement against Nursultan Nazarbayev, who stepped aside as president in 2019 after decades in office but has remained the real power in Kazakhstan.

Mukhtar Ablyazov, a former banker and government minister who is leader of an opposition movement called Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan, said the West needed to enter the fray.

“If not, then Kazakhstan will turn into Belarus and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin will methodically impose his program – the recreation of a structure like the Soviet Union,” Ablyazov told Reuters in Russian from Paris. “The West should tear Kazakhstan away from Russia.”

“Russia has already entered, sent in troops. CSTO is Russia. This is an occupation by Russia,” he said.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/west-must-stand-up-to-russia-in-kazakhstan-opposition-leader-says

The crucial internal power struggle angle in Kazakhstan is now graphically clear.

Nazarbayev, his daughters and their families all left the country.

That's the end of the "multi-vector" foreign policy.

Tokayev is asserting control - and thanked Russia and China.

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479416878284091394

The CSTO peacekeeping team in Kazakhstan is headed by an ultra seasoned pro: commander of the Russian Airborne Forces Andrei Serdyukov.

Russia will NOT engage in any combat: the CSTO mission is to stabilize/ protect strategic facilities.

The rest is NATOstan clownish noise.

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479421317728423938

Erdoganistan media is going bonkers.

Russia is "occupying" Kazakhstan; it's an imperialist force; and is trying to prevent Turkey's attempt to create an anti-Russian alliance of Turkic nations.

Looks like their beheading assets screwed up.

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479422717187272705

magnumcromagnon wrote:This is the reason why Pepe Escobar is one of the few 'real' journalist left!

The crucial internal power struggle angle in Kazakhstan is now graphically clear.

Nazarbayev, his daughters and their families all left the country.

That's the end of the "multi-vector" foreign policy.

Tokayev is asserting control - and thanked Russia and China.

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479416878284091394

The CSTO peacekeeping team in Kazakhstan is headed by an ultra seasoned pro: commander of the Russian Airborne Forces Andrei Serdyukov.

Russia will NOT engage in any combat: the CSTO mission is to stabilize/ protect strategic facilities.

The rest is NATOstan clownish noise.

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479421317728423938

Erdoganistan media is going bonkers.

Russia is "occupying" Kazakhstan; it's an imperialist force; and is trying to prevent Turkey's attempt to create an anti-Russian alliance of Turkic nations.

Looks like their beheading assets screwed up.

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479422717187272705

kvs wrote:Turkey was 100% involved.  Pan-turkic delusions are extreme and they can't help themselves.

When I look at a Turk from Turkey I do not see too much similarity to a Kazakh from Kazakhstan.   The Turkic aspect
is tangential.   Bulgarians speak a Slavic language but are not Slavs.   Kazakhs are not Turks.

PhSt wrote:It didn't take that long for the NATzO backed insurrectionists to reveal their true intentions  

West must stand up to Russia in Kazakhstan, opposition leader says

LONDON — The West must pull Kazakhstan out of Moscow’s orbit or Russian President Vladimir Putin will draw the Central Asian state into “a structure like the Soviet Union,” a former minister who is now a Kazakh opposition leader told Reuters.

Protests  that began as a response to a fuel price rise swelled this week into a broad movement against Nursultan Nazarbayev, who stepped aside as president in 2019 after decades in office but has remained the real power in Kazakhstan.

Mukhtar Ablyazov, a former banker and government minister who is leader of an opposition movement called Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan, said the West needed to enter the fray.

“If not, then Kazakhstan will turn into Belarus and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin will methodically impose his program – the recreation of a structure like the Soviet Union,” Ablyazov told Reuters in Russian from Paris. “The West should tear Kazakhstan away from Russia.”

“Russia has already entered, sent in troops. CSTO is Russia. This is an occupation by Russia,” he said.

ALAMO wrote:

kvs wrote:Turkey was 100% involved.  Pan-turkic delusions are extreme and they can't help themselves.

When I look at a Turk from Turkey I do not see too much similarity to a Kazakh from Kazakhstan.   The Turkic aspect
is tangential.   Bulgarians speak a Slavic language but are not Slavs.   Kazakhs are not Turks.

... but on the other hand, Tokayev included the Turk govt in his thanksgiving list, just after the Russia and China ...

kvs wrote:

There is an oligarch clan war in Kazakhstan.   The airport was seized with the help of people inside the government.
The "protestors" were armed with sniper rifles and followed an urban warfare attack pattern.  

Also, Nazarbayev and most of his immediate family have fled to Russia.  

Kazkahstan is like Ukraine and the other limitrophe states of the former USSR.   They have a bunch of opportunist maggots,
oligarchs, who are very eager to sell their "countries" down the river.   This is easy pickings for Washington since it has those
precious dollars that all of these maggots crave so much.

Hole wrote:
It took the russian armed forces less then 24 hours to assemble a multi-national (sort of) force and bring them in. Nice comparison to the almighty ( ) NATO and their not so rapid forces.