Russian Ground Forces: News #3

Svinets is 3BM46 and is from the 90s. It is 546mm long.

Svinets-1/2 3BM59/60 and are from the 00s. They are around 750mm long and usable with new autoloaders on very last tank upgrades like t-80BVM or t-90M which were put in service just recently.

I doubt they bought any big stock of the old Svinets which has almost the same specs as the older Lekalo 3BM44M. The new tanks are for sure geting svinets-1/2.

Isos wrote:Svinets-1/2 3BM59/60 and are from the 00s. They are around 750mm long and usable with new autoloaders on very last tank upgrades like t-80BVM or t-90M which were put in service just recently.

I thought that the T-90 and 72B3 had the improved autoloader?

The-thing-next-door wrote:

Isos wrote:Svinets-1/2 3BM59/60 and are from the 00s. They are around 750mm long and usable with new autoloaders on very last tank upgrades like t-80BVM or t-90M which were put in service just recently.

I thought that the T-90 and 72B3 had the improved autoloader?

I think only t-72B3 and t-90M. Former t-72 certainly not and first generation t-90 can't use Svinets-1/2.

T-72B3 started service in 2013 and is also getting svinets-1/2.

GarryB wrote:

Former t-72 certainly not and first generation t-90 can't use Svinets-1/2.

So all the new upgraded T-72s and all the upgraded T-90s will be able to use them... and of course all the upgraded T-80s.

So effectively all the upgraded vehicles and all the new vehicles will be able to use the new ammo...

They ARE using them since all the new tanks are already in service.

So the production exists which was the original question.

MOSCOW, September 12. /TASS/. More than 240 modern and modernized T-72B3M, T-80BVM and T-90M "Breakthrough" tanks will be received by the Ground Forces of the Russian army this year. This was reported to journalists in the Russian Defense Ministry.

"This year, more than 240 modern and modernized T-72B3M, T-80BVM and T-90M "Breakthrough" tanks are being delivered to the military units of the Ground Forces, " the military department said.

The ministry stressed that at the current stage of development, the tank fleet is updated annually.

"The enterprises of the military-industrial complex supply the units of the Ground Forces with modern samples of armored vehicles that have successfully proven themselves during operation in various climatic zones," the Defense Ministry noted.

Today, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation celebrate a professional holiday for the 75th time - the Day of the Tankman, which is one of the most significant in the Land Forces. The holiday was established by the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of 1946 to commemorate the merits of armored and mechanized troops in the defeat of the Nazi invaders during the Great Patriotic War, as well as the merits of tank builders in equipping the Armed Forces of the country with armored vehicles.

Tank formations, having great firepower, reliable armor protection and high maneuverability, still remain the main striking force of the Ground Forces. Solemn events dedicated to the Day of the Tankman will be held in all tank formations and military units.

NOTE: from previous releases 93 T-72B3M, 82 T-80BVM and 65 T-90M. In addition 20 T-14 are due to arrive this year. Plus no mention of how many tanks the Naval Coastal troops are receiving. From reports and sightings there is a new battalion of T-72B3M's in the Crimea and others to the Kaliningrad (most likely another battalion).

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/12364041?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=smm_social_share

They are not dumb at any point.
This is an answer to the question, how much is Europe in general afraid of "evil Russkies".
We don't give a shit, no sane European beliefs in the EU-Russia war.
Germans pushed the storage of Leo2 forward to the east, because why should they pay for keeping them on the depots, while they could earn a good bunch of euros putting them in Poland's, Hungary, or Bulgaria's hands?
Why don't earn money for phobias?

Frankly speaking, the only thing that amazes is the numbers that Russia is capable of fielding on a yearly basis.
And that is not only because of the cost of that - it is quite obvious that Russian expenditures are far more reasonable and cost-effective than western countries, yet US ...
The real deal is the fact, that they are the only country on the planet capable to make the tanks in hundreds. That requires an extensive industrial output, very good logistics, and a real good management.
Take a look and compare that to the programs running in other countries.
In the UK, they will upgrade half of the tanks Russkies put into operation each year ... till 2040
How many tanks can Lima scrapyard refurbish? 30 a year? Seriously, no idea, it was a bankrupt barn only 3 years ago.

A few random pics from Zapad-21

lancelot wrote:HATO should be sweating pervasively at this but they seem remarkably calm. Sometimes I wonder how dumb HATO leaders are.

Germany barely moved with taking some Leopard 2 tanks out of mothballs and running them through an upgrade program.
Both the USA and France/Germany finally are working on next generation tank designs at a snail's pace.

They believe:
T-72B3Ms and T-80BVMs are hopelessly obsolete and that they can't fire APFSDS that can penetrate M1A2 or leopard 2A6 armor

They believe Russia will never be able to afford more than a few dozen T-14s and they drank their own Kool aid about the T-14 being cancelled
NATO believes Russian ground forces are a trifle to deal with because NATO is guaranteed to achieve complete air superiority.


Pretty retarded

Even though NATO expanded from 16 to 30 nations after the Cold War ended it lost almost all capability to sustain any kind of conventional war against Russia. Russia on the other hand certainly has the capability to defend itself against any conventional attack from the NATO countries.

Even if NATO can somehow manage to attain air superiority during the initial strike, I doubt that those combat aircraft would have the luxury of operating from too many airbases again.

Hole wrote:


A few random pics from Zapad-21

Why do russians remove the sideskirts of their T-72s both during training and combat?

limb wrote:
Why do russians remove the sideskirts of their T-72s both during training and combat?

There are plenty of pictures where they have the side skirts on during exercises, but they do remove them sometimes as it makes maintenance on the suspension and tracks a lot easier. They would normally keep them on during combat as it offers a bit more protection.

Light tactical vechile "Sarmat-2" during "Zapad-2021" at the Mulino training ground

Zemledelie remote mining engineering vehicle at the Zapad-2021 exercise

The conditional enemy at the Zapad-2021 exercises is marked with white lines. Such lines were used by the Ukrainian army in the Donbass

Russian_Patriot_ wrote:The conditional enemy at the Zapad-2021 exercises is marked with white lines. Such lines were used by the Ukrainian army in the Donbass
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/20/34/63/61/img_2267.jpg

Condition of vehicles also resembles the Ukrainian army

It's the paint only.
I get just the same feeling.
Those things look burned down.
But that may be desired

Foreign observers during the main stage of the Zapad-2021 exercise

Specialists of the armored weapons storage base of the Eastern Military District have restored a Soviet tractor and crane made on the basis of the legendary T-34 tank. Cars have joined the exposition of the museum of the military unit in Arsenyev – you can see them only on open days, during a free visit to the territory.

Random photos from Zapad-2021