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    Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Austin on Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:18 pm

    Nice Interview

    MIC deputy chairman Oleg Bochkarev on the development of the defense industry in terms of sanctions

    http://lenta.ru/articles/2014/08/18/bochkarev/
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:01 am

    ^^^Thanks, will +1 when I have the opportunity.



    BTW, new secure communication system 'P-430' with apparently no analogues. Here's some key points:

    - Extreme ECM resistance with unique anti-jamming modes

    - VHF band, Satellite navigation (GLONASS/GPS)

    - 1,500 km range

    - Can be mounted on a wide range of wheeled (Typhoon, Tigr, Boomerang) and Tracked  vehicles (Kurganets, Armata, probably even Vityaz ATV).

    - Functionality from modularity, different communication set up for different purposes, while still maintaining high commonality.

    - Successfully passed state tests, most likely will be inducted.


    Holding DIC has developed a new range of secure communications for the Army
    Which has no analogues in Russian system presented at "Oboronekspo 2014»



    The exhibition "Oboronekspo 2014" instrument-United Corporation (DIC) has demonstrated a new complex of the P-430, consisting of field pomehozashchishchennyh multidirectional digital microwave radios. The complex, which has no analogues in Russia, developed by the group "Constellation".

    The unique system is designed for all levels of management of the armed forces and is able to operate reliably under enemy electronic countermeasures. The complex provides the deployment of networks and communication lines of up to 1,500 km with an interval of 40-50 km. P-430 can be mounted on an armored car and the base of the wheeled and tracked chassis, as well as stationary objects communication.

    "The uniqueness of the complex is provided by full-time job in the anti-jamming modes - unlike analog and digital radio stations, - said the director of the Department of Joint instrument-making corporation Alexander Kalinin. - Here is the whole set of tools applied exploration and immunity and provide results that are either not fully implemented in the other stations, or do they lack. "

    Within each relay station are satellite navigation (GLONASS, GPS), VHF radio service communications, as well as night-vision goggles. The complex P-430 has enhanced functionality and features through the use of new methods of encoding the signals, simultaneous dual-band frequencies, the use of anti-jamming modes and the use of rapidly deployable antenna support.

    Composition of communications equipment may vary depending on the functional purpose station. Base - Front channeling, power supply system, life support system, navigation system - in all versions is the same type.

    "This construction principle allows to increase the degree of commonality of products gives you the opportunity to complete a station on the basis of a set of necessary blocks" - says chief designer Ivan Malyshev.

    According to the designer, the complex has successfully passed the state tests, which resulted in the conclusion that this is the only real-life military domestic noise-free complex.

    P-430 system soon may become the basic equipment including digital noise-relay communication for all branches of the armed forces and law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation.


    http://rostec.ru/news/4514303

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    Post  Austin on Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:46 am

    Interview Andrei Zverev, General Director of JSC "Russian electronics"  ( In Russian use Translator )

    Development of the Russian military electronics

    http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/arsenal/1381752-echo/

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Austin on Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:56 pm

    JANES

    Russian MoD to acquire large batch of GAZ-3344 ATVs

    Russia 'to double' size of airborne forces
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Mike E on Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:11 pm

    - Sweet! Those are some cool "ATVs"...
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    Post  Austin on Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:42 pm

    More details on new Man Portable Willow SAM


    New portable air defense missile system "Willow" began to enter the Russian Army




    MOSCOW, August 22. (ARMS-TASS). In the Russian army began to enter a new portable air defense systems (MANPADS), "Willow". About this ARMS-TASS reported today in Kolomna Research and Production Corporation "KBM" (MSC), which was created by the new weapons.
    According to the representative of MSC, in the moment, "Willow" is already armed Airborne Division and motorized infantry brigade of the Eastern District.


    On their tactical and technical characteristics of the complex 9K333 "Willow" is superior to all existing in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation MANPADS: 9K310 "Igla-1" 9K38 "Igla" 9K338 "Igla-S", as well as their foreign counterparts - the American "Stinger unit -1 'and Chinese QW-2.


    As explained in the company-developer of the complex, "Willow" - a new generation MANPADS, improved performance is based on the use of a fundamentally new trehspektralnoy homing (for "Needle-S" - dvuhspektralnaya) and a new instrument compartment. Had increased the sensitivity of the GOS increased its immunity. As a result, significantly expanded the affected area goals and increased efficiency of the complex at long range.


    One of the main advantages of "Willow" - high probability of defeat maloizluchayuschih targets like cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, said the representative of MSC. These are the flying objects that are difficult to detect, but even more difficult to bring down.


    "In combat effectiveness in the world is set equal to" recruit ", - said the representative of MSC.


    The composition of MANPADS "Willow" includes: 9M336 missile, trigger 9P521, ground radar interrogator "- another's" 1L229V, mobile checkpoint 9V861, compact radar detector 1L122, 9S931 planning module, the module exploration and management 9S932-1, portable control module 9S933 fire (in the brigade included), built-in mounting kit 9S933-1 (on the division included) set automation gunners 9S935, training aids.


    Significantly improved quality, reliability complex, simplify maintenance. There is no need to conduct periodic checks of the troops with cooling GOS nitrogen. This made it possible to abandon the additional equipment, storage of nitrogen, save manpower.


    At the same time maintain a high continuity with previous MANPADS of the combat operation, operation, maintenance and training.


    Kolomenskoye MSC entered into a long-term contract with the Ministry of Defense for the supply of "Willow" and launched a full-scale production of the new MANPADS.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Cpt Caz on Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:25 am

    76th Division, correct? Interesting that in these photos none of them are wearing ballistic vests
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:05 pm

    Aren't those load bearing vests ballistic?


    And:


    As explained in the company-developer of the complex, "Willow" - a new generation MANPADS, improved performance is based on the use of a fundamentally new trehspektralnoy homing (for "Needle-S" - dvuhspektralnaya) and a new instrument compartment.

    "fundamentally new three spectrum homing (seeker)."

    "for "Needle-S" - Dual Spectrum (Seeker)"


    Significantly improved quality, reliability complex, simplify maintenance. There is no need to conduct periodic checks of the troops with cooling GOS nitrogen. This made it possible to abandon the additional equipment, storage of nitrogen, save manpower.

    The fact that it no longer uses nitrogen cooling and is a three band sensor suggests that Verba (Willow) uses an uncooled QWIP thermal sensor which will make it simpler to maintain and operate and with a longer sensor/detection range.

    As mentioned above this is critical for UAVs which often have a small IR signature to begin with and are more difficult to engage because they tend to fly high and are tough to spot/detect/lock.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Cpt Caz on Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:58 pm

    GarryB wrote:Aren't those load bearing vests ballistic?

    No, load bearing equipment doesn't offer ballistic protection, which is why usually its worn over a ballistic vest.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Austin on Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:32 pm

    GarryB wrote:Aren't those load bearing vests ballistic?


    And:


    As explained in the company-developer of the complex, "Willow" - a new generation MANPADS, improved performance is based on the use of a fundamentally new trehspektralnoy homing (for "Needle-S" - dvuhspektralnaya) and a new instrument compartment.

    "fundamentally new three spectrum homing (seeker)."

    "for "Needle-S" - Dual Spectrum (Seeker)"


    Significantly improved quality, reliability complex, simplify maintenance. There is no need to conduct periodic checks of the troops with cooling GOS nitrogen. This made it possible to abandon the additional equipment, storage of nitrogen, save manpower.

    The fact that it no longer uses nitrogen cooling and is a three band sensor suggests that Verba (Willow) uses an uncooled QWIP thermal sensor which will make it simpler to maintain and operate and with a longer sensor/detection range.

    As mentioned above this is critical for UAVs which often have a small IR signature to begin with and are more difficult to engage because they tend to fly high and are tough to spot/detect/lock.

    Thanks Garry for clarifying.

    So you mean Verba Seeker is based on QWIP or the targetting sensor of verba is of QWIP of Thermal Type.

    I suspect even the current Igla-S is deadly , I spoke in a defence exhibition to Russian contigent on Igla-S and he mentioned that it was not a digital system and hence not reprogramable on field and cannot deal with newer CM system.

    Verba I would assume is full digital system

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  acatomic on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:52 pm

    I need a little bit of help in clearifing something

    GarryB wrote:


    Significantly improved quality, reliability complex, simplify maintenance. There is no need to conduct periodic checks of the troops with cooling GOS nitrogen. This made it possible to abandon the additional equipment, storage of nitrogen, save manpower.

    The fact that it no longer uses nitrogen cooling and is a three band sensor suggests that Verba (Willow) uses an uncooled QWIP thermal sensor which will make it simpler to maintain and operate and with a longer sensor/detection range.

    As mentioned above this is critical for UAVs which often have a small IR signature to begin with and are more difficult to engage because they tend to fly high and are tough to spot/detect/lock.

    What about this:

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:The missile furthest from the camera, in the first picture, and the one to the left, in the second picture, is claimed to be part of Verba (9K333).

    9M336 is claimed to be the designation for one of the missiles used by Verba.




    On the second picture we have Igla-1, Igla, Igla-S and soposedly Verba. If that's not Verba (on the left) what is it then?

    Thanks.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Regular on Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:16 am

    Cpt Caz wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Aren't those load bearing vests ballistic?

    No, load bearing equipment doesn't offer ballistic protection, which is why usually its worn over a ballistic vest.
    Whats the name for the vest? I thought it does have inserts?
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:33 am

    No, load bearing equipment doesn't offer ballistic protection, which is why usually its worn over a ballistic vest.

    Of course standard load bearing equipment does not offer ballistic protection, but this is one of the new Russian uniforms isn't it? Doesn't that integrate all sorts of things together including trauma plates in load bearing harnesses etc etc?


    So you mean Verba Seeker is based on QWIP or the targetting sensor of verba is of QWIP of Thermal Type.

    The targeting sensor and the seeker on Verba are the same thing, and yes, based on the article posted, yes I think it uses a QWIP type thermal sensor.

    I suspect even the current Igla-S is deadly , I spoke in a defence exhibition to Russian contigent on Igla-S and he mentioned that it was not a digital system and hence not reprogramable on field and cannot deal with newer CM system.

    Many of the targets it will be used against like UCAVs and light aircraft will not have sophisticated self defence capability... in fact in an anti cruise missile capability the target might not even know it is under attack till the missile hits it.

    Verba I would assume is full digital system

    I would assume so too.

    On the second picture we have Igla-1, Igla, Igla-S and soposedly Verba. If that's not Verba (on the left) what is it then?

    With the pointed nose the one on the right is definitely Igla-1, but the one on the far left is clearly not Verba.

    This is supposed to be Verba:

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Cpt Caz on Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:39 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    Of course standard load bearing equipment does not offer ballistic protection, but this is one of the new Russian uniforms isn't it? Doesn't that integrate all sorts of things together including trauma plates in load bearing harnesses etc etc?

    Actually, taking a second look at the photos, it looks like they might indeed be wearing plates, but the newest Russian vests without any add-ons are so low-profile that its honestly hard to tell.  dunno
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:46 pm

    Cpt Caz wrote:
    GarryB wrote:

    Of course standard load bearing equipment does not offer ballistic protection, but this is one of the new Russian uniforms isn't it? Doesn't that integrate all sorts of things together including trauma plates in load bearing harnesses etc etc?

    Actually, taking a second look at the photos, it looks like they might indeed be wearing plates, but the newest Russian vests without any add-ons are so low-profile that its honestly hard to tell.  dunno

    BTW I think I've seen your username on MP.net, the one with the Spike Spiegel/Cowboy Bebop avatar?
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Cpt Caz on Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:57 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    BTW I think I've seen your username on MP.net, the one with the Spike Spiegel/Cowboy Bebop avatar?

    Yep, that's me. Smile You have an account there?

    About 100 arms samples to be tested at Kapustin Yar range in 2015: http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/746514
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:35 am

    Cpt Caz wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    BTW I think I've seen your username on MP.net, the one with the Spike Spiegel/Cowboy Bebop avatar?

    Yep, that's me. Smile You have an account there?

    About 100 arms samples to be tested at Kapustin Yar range in 2015: http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/746514

    Thankfully not, I only lurk there...the amount of censorship on MP.net is astounding, in stark contrast on the russiadefence forum, it's incredibly difficult to get banned. I've seen members on this forum, members of the sinodefense forum, the Pakistani defense forum defense.pk, and other members of other defense forums say that MP.net moderators abuse their powers like no one else, and they attempt to censor any and all Anti-NATO/US rhetoric...I'm American, who's step-father served guard duty on NATO Missile bases in Europe, to attempt to censor all criticism of the Pentagon/NATO is totally unacceptable.
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    Post  Cpt Caz on Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:57 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Thankfully not, I only lurk there...the amount of censorship on MP.net is astounding, in stark contrast on the russiadefence forum, it's incredibly difficult to get banned. I've seen members on this forum, members of the sinodefense forum, the Pakistani defense forum defense.pk, and other members of other defense forums say that MP.net moderators abuse their powers like no one else, and they attempt to censor any and all Anti-NATO/US rhetoric...I'm American, who's step-father served guard duty on NATO Missile bases in Europe, to attempt to censor all criticism of the Pentagon/NATO is totally unacceptable.

    Yeah, the mods there can be pretty heavy handed at times, and I noticed they often have more patience for some of the more "established" members, giving them what basically amounts to a slap on the wrist for offenses that would probably get a newbie permabanned. Haven't noticed any similar behavior from the mods here, so that's a good thing. Smile

    Still though, there's few places as good for sharing content on the Russian armed forces as the Russian Photos thread. That thread is the reason I joined and pretty much the only reason I continue to post there.


    48 new vehicles from Kurganmashzavod will participate in the 2015 Victory Day parade: http://vpk.name/news/116310_48_kurganskih_boevyih_mashin_gotovyat_na_parad_pobedyi_v_moskvu.html

    - 24 Kurganets-25 (12 APC variant and 12 IFV variant)

    - 12 BMD-4M

    - 12 BTR-MDM


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:22 am

    Cpt Caz wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Thankfully not, I only lurk there...the amount of censorship on MP.net is astounding, in stark contrast on the russiadefence forum, it's incredibly difficult to get banned. I've seen members on this forum, members of the sinodefense forum, the Pakistani defense forum defense.pk, and other members of other defense forums say that MP.net moderators abuse their powers like no one else, and they attempt to censor any and all Anti-NATO/US rhetoric...I'm American, who's step-father served guard duty on NATO Missile bases in Europe, to attempt to censor all criticism of the Pentagon/NATO is totally unacceptable.

    Yeah, the mods there can be pretty heavy handed at times, and I noticed they often have more patience for some of the more "established" members, giving them what basically amounts to a slap on the wrist for offenses that would probably get a newbie permabanned. Haven't noticed any similar behavior from the mods here, so that's a good thing. Smile

    Still though, there's few places as good for sharing content on the Russian armed forces as the Russian Photos thread. That thread is the reason I joined and pretty much the only reason I continue to post there.


    48 new vehicles from Kurganmashzavod will participate in the 2015 Victory Day parade: http://vpk.name/news/116310_48_kurganskih_boevyih_mashin_gotovyat_na_parad_pobedyi_v_moskvu.html

    - 24 Kurganets-25 (12 APC variant and 12 IFV variant)

    - 12 BMD-4M

    - 12 BTR-MDM

    Established members like C. Puffs, the guy with M-1 Abrams avatar? I've seen the guy troll Russian photos thread and nothing happened to him, a prima faci case of MP.net favoritism towards Amerikkka Stronkkk trolls.

    BTW 24 Kurganets is nice!


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Austin on Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:02 pm

    Russia’s arms program to enhance security forces’ combat capability — Putin

    http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/748940


    MOSCOW, September 10. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia’s new armaments program for 2016-2025 is a special-purpose mechanism designed to enhance the combat capability of its Armed Forces, President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.
    Russia began drafting the program in 2013. “It will be the fifth largest state program of the sort in the past 20 years,” the president said.

    The program will also help to overcome the crisis in the Russian defence industry and spur its growth, he added.

    Putin said large amounts of money had been invested in the program, signifying an almost 10-fold increase from 2.5 trillion roubles ($67 billion) in 2001-2010 to over 20 trillion roubles ($540 billion) in 2011-2020. And an additional 3 billion roubles ($81 million) have been earmarked specifically for the development of the defense industry.

    Such concentration of resources was necessary in order to rearm the Army and the Navy within a short period of time, upgrade defense enterprises and make up for the setbacks suffered in the previous years when the defence industry was struggling to survive.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Viktor on Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:39 pm

    Optronic and 360° AESA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkmTXJqnw1g


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:11 am

    Viktor wrote:Optronic and 360° AESA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkmTXJqnw1g



    Nice although Russia was technically late to the AESA party (thanks to the Yelstin-90's) but with all things said and done post-2016 Russia may very well have more AESA arrays in active service (throughout all military branches) than any other major military power especially considering that the Armata platform will have AESA X-Band radar. Victory Day Parade 2015 will be very interesting to say the least!
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:41 am

    At least AESA technology is now mature...

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