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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:05 am

    The Russian Army is introducing new technology management battle

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    http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=237875&p=7&sort=1&cid=1

    11.08.2009
    "Rosoboronexport", which is part of goskorporatsiyu "Rostehnologii actively promotes the world market for advanced control systems forces.

    It is Pogonovo Voronej were tested under a uniform system of military tactical bridge. Tests have shown - the combat capabilities of military units through new technologies could increase by 2-3 times, and the execution of some regulations to reduce the forty-fold.

    "I say 40 times, of course, about the time. But it is crucial for the general commander. Today is so moving target, that if you have time to hit for some time, this is your result, your superior," - explains the importance of the time on the field bout Vadim Potapov, deputy director general of NPC "Concern" Constellation. "

    "According to the radio or regular radio old time taken to park the team or battle orders from the brigade commander to the commander of military units amounts to tens of minutes, - said the representative of the group, Vladimir Fedorov. - Now, with the use of automated management tools, the unit of seconds to tens of seconds."

    Develops and implements new technologies in the management of the troops "Concern" Constellation. "There are 16 of the radio-electronic industry. They pose as separate elements, as well as automated systems that combine intelligence, management, and defeat.

    "What is a telecommunications system, telecommunications system? - Asked Vadim Potapov, and he himself is responsible, - This is actually the vessels, which runs the blood. Krov - is information. Today resource comparable to combat resource. In other words, almost one byte of information - this is one shell. It is not a simple byte of information that is relevant and reliable at the moment. "

    These satellite communication and navigation, with the unmanned aerial vehicles and operational intelligence are reflected in the computer analysis. It creates a common data picture of the battlefield.

    "There are 12 subsystems: the command headquarters, intelligence, artillery, electronic warfare, rear, tehobespecheniya, engineering troops, but all linked to horizontal single telecommunications platform - create an image of the modern management system forces Vadim Potapov. - All work on the general commander of presentation of information, an information resource, which is required for a decision. "

    The development of the system is useful not only to commanders and rank and file. This allows you to master modern technologies, which can be used to "citizen." In systems using modern digital radio 5-th generation.

    "This is one of the VHF radio band the fifth generation - represents one of the development of the group, Vladimir Fedorov. - First of all, the radio noise. It is implemented treatment program frequency. That is, the frequency varies with speed up to a hundred jumps per second, which provides the complexity of its interception.

    Now parts of the Moscow Military District has started pilot operation of the system. Trained three motorized company and battalion, tank, artillery units and air defense battalion.

    "In 2010, will be invited to some info-communication solutions in the form of IP telephony, which will reach the soldiers, - says Vadim Potapov immediate plans. - This will allow, as a concept treats the president to go to a single soldier. Dial the number and call."

    Developers create a telecommunications-based and systems for most types of military forces. For example, a group-gun anti-aircraft missile complex "Pantsir-P."

    Experts believe the introduction of new technologies in the management of tactical level will allow the forces of the Russian army greatly enhance combat capability.
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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:13 pm

    Russia and Europe will cooperate in the development of communications for Russia and foreign armies
    02.09.2009

    Moscow. August 31. Interfax-AVN - "Concern" Constellation "and the company Thales intend to cooperate in the development and establishment of management systems and communications to the tactical level in order to meet the needs of the armed forces of different customers around the world, the press office of Thales.

    "For the constellation of this collaboration is an excellent opportunity to launch several new solutions to meet the growing needs of the advanced features on the battlefield," - said General Director of "Concern" Constellation "Yuri Sidorov, whose words are contained in the message.

    In turn, manager of communications company Thales Pierre Suslenshi added that: "This cooperation reflects the strategy Thales to work with local centers and facilitate the transfer of know-how and technologies of Russia.

    Under the agreement, "Constellation" and Thales will combine our most advanced technology for the realization of integrated solutions for communications and control systems for vehicles, weapons systems produced in Russia and command posts for Russia's market and for export customers. Specific activities will be determined by the end of 2009.

    "Constellation" and Thales plan to offer a number of solutions for integrating communications systems tactical-level of Thales and tactical-level management systems developed by the Constellation. These solutions provide a full range of modern services, including secure and simultaneous transmission of voice and data, continuous operation of IP and knowledge of the tactical situation in real time. Integration of advanced equipment and communications systems will provide seamless connectivity and high level of protection on the battlefield, at every level of command and staff vehicles for the divisions to the level of the front line.

    "Concern" Constellation "- a leading company in its industry, is the leader of Russia's market and comprises 16 plants throughout Russia, with the number of employed about 20 thousand people. The main task of the group is the development, production and maintenance, modernization, repair and recycling of single system of command and control and weapons at the tactical level, hardware and software for automation, control and communications, electronic countermeasures terrestrial radio communications, including for export. foreign consumers of products of JSC "Concern" Constellation "serve customers in 12 countries.

    The company Thales is an international leader in the manufacture of electronic systems for international markets for defense, aerospace and security industry. During 2008, profit reached 12.7 billion euros. The company Thales operates 68 000 people in 50 countries.

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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:11 pm

    Medvedev demands more domestic telecoms equipment for Russian army

    RIA Novosti

    16:06 01/10/2010 GORKI (Moscow region), October 1 (RIA Novosti) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called on Friday for domestic production of telecommunications equipment for the security forces to be stepped up.

    "Currently, we buy this kind of equipment from nearly 40 foreign firms," Medvedev said at a Security Council meeting.

    "Sometimes we can't dispense with it [foreign technology] ... but we should make the best use of our capabilities in the area of [telecoms] equipment and software," he said.

    All analog telecommunications within the country's Armed Forces should be replaced by digital technologies, Medvedev said.

    National security can only be ensured with the help of up-to-date telecommunications, he added.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2010/russia-101001-rianovosti01.htm
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:47 am

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Austin on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:17 am

    Medvedev urges creation of mobile communications for special services

    President Dmitry Medvedev has set Russia's security agencies the task of creating a reliable modern system for confidential mobile communications, the secretary of the Russian Security Council said Friday.

    "We will work on this, and I hope such communications will appear soon: we have already done some groundwork," Nikolai Patrushev told journalists after a Security Council meeting.

    Patrushev explained that he meant mobile phones on which confidential conversations could be held from any point on the Earth.

    "And the talk cannot be intercepted," said Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, who delivered a report at the meeting.

    Patrushev said currently available systems are too bulky.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Andy_Wiz on Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:54 pm

    A bright future for 57-mm is envisioned in KB "Burevestnik" based at Nizhny Novgorod. While not exactly a breakthrough development, as it is essentially a shortened barrel of famous S-60 gun means it does not retain the brillliant ballistic qualities of its predecessor. Some suggest that it might be innovative in terms of feeding mechanism and seems the main R&D efforts are concetrated on getting bigger rate of fire and to speed-up changing ammo casettes while not overcrowding module and vehicle ammo station with highly explosive rounds.. The system is only slightly related to the 57-mm battle compartment tested for PT-76B in late 90-s. Other innovations must be in area of remotely controlled fuses of the projectiles, PGMs although I still expect better gun ballistics for naval version in the future as well as considerably higher rate of fire (similar to BAE Systems Mk 110 57 mm gun of the LCS).


    The Navy version seems to be ready for tests.

    The feeding mechanism in its current stage consists of folllowing-
    Automated ammo rack for 20rounds that are ready for immediate fire:

    b)it is supplied with behind the turret mechanised storage for 100 rounds that reloads the rack in 10-15s. Additionaly you can choose which type of ammo to reload first in the rack.


    Module is autonomus which means it may eventually be installed on the broad range of vehicles:


    Some additional thoughts here(in Russian):
    http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/14202.html#cutid1







    This is also interesting proposition - joint chassis E-300 not directly related to future platforms, but allows a commonality of T-72B, T-90 related vehicles to be sufficiently risen.



    Here is babelfish translation of this article: http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/xlopotov_8/0rea_2009.htm

    A real sensation of the Ural weapons Salon «RUSSIAN EXPO ARMS 2009" has become a new universal chassis from OAO Uraltransmash. The appearance of this machine are interested in many experts, although most of the media have not noticed it at all. In these days of the exhibition was working delegation of the Defense Ministry. Judging by how long the experts acquainted with the layout of a new unified chassis, this development deserves special attention.

    "This layout was presented to the public for the first time. At the moment it is one of our major developments. This chassis to unify with the main battle tank Russian T-90 ", - said General Director of Uraltransmash" Yuri Comrat.

    Manufacturer's designation of a new car - "E300". According to the deputy chief designer, head of SKB-Transmash special JSC Uraltransmash "Komarov, Vladimir Fedorovich, E300 - is their initiative only development. Action in all senses. Both on the idea and funding. Their appearance a new chassis immediately aroused great interest, both in military and military-industrial circles. "I just tell you my feelings, they can certainly not be true, but I have a feeling it happened that both the military and among the industrialists such an easy panic rose, because before a General Discussion, papers are different. Papers can be describing whatever you want them. And we have a really built machine that runs, you can touch, kick, next to another car place "- said in an interview with Vladimir Fedorovich. The reason for such "silent panic" is simple - the suspension and "BuK" and "Tunguska" exhausted themselves to the possibility of further growth of the load. The same situation with his family for "URALTRANSMASH" chassis ACS "Acacia" and "MSTA". There are always applied to support roller relatively small diameter and a small carrying capacity of the chassis, which in turn imposes limitations on the growth of the mass of vehicles and payloads, respectively. At the same time, the use of heavy armored vehicles as universal as inappropriate. This option is offered Nizhny Tagil UKBTM is justified to create a unified line on the chassis front edge of the combat vehicles - tanks, BMPT, TBTR, CBT, LMC, BREM, BIS, other heavy engineering vehicles and machinery support. However, the heavy tank chassis with protection level, and therefore the mass, it is absolutely not required for the SAU, SAM and the various crank, radar installations. World trends at the same time require unification of all park military vehicles. How to reconcile these contradictions? Exit Ural Designer found in the application of a single unified platform.

    As conceived by Chief Designer - CSC chief Valery Alexandrovich and lead engineer on the car Dmitry Malyshev (can not but rejoice that the engineering staff, we started getting younger - Dimitri just 26 years) using a light body chassis on a single, unified platform with tanks having a high bearing characteristics, makes it possible to carry up to 25-28 tons of payload at a total machine weight to 50 tons.

    To compare:

    weapon «BUK-М1
    chassis GM-596
    chassis weight, kg 24000
    total weight, kg 35500
    maximum cargo load, kg 11500

    weapon «Tunguska-М1»
    chassis GM-5975
    chassis weight, kg 23800
    total weight, kg 36000
    maximum cargo load, kg 11500

    weapon «TOR-М1»
    chassis GM-5955
    chassis weight, kg 27000
    total weight, kg 37000
    maximum cargo load, kg 11500

    chassis «future E-300»
    chassis weight, kg 24500
    total weight, kg 50000
    maximum cargo load, kg 28000


    That's why as a basic machine for the platform has been selected T-90S tanks. Of course, depending on the type and type of loading body will change. Simply by virtue of the functional features of the set of possible states of load it can not be the same, but the body after all - it's not a problem! The main thing - it is a platform. Decision must be made that suspension will be precisely this. It can serve as a basis not only for the installation of 155-mm long-range howitzer M-388 (developer of "plant number 9), but also for other military vehicles. Such as the control point air defense radars, launchers of anti-aircraft missiles, tracked mine layers, and others. However, in the case of ACS, it is not applicable tank blade dampers. For ACS and SAM launchers, they must be controlled and at least dual-mode. For this reason, blade dampers T-90 tank have been replaced by telescopic. Another technical problem transmashevtsam ahead in adapting his chassis under the Buk. There probably need to introduce some additional control system, because "beech" in certain modes need a rigid fixation of the case. This matter is currently in the study.

    MTO E300 chassis is identical MTO MBT T-90A, and depending on the expected loads can be accomplished with a front or rear. Tysyachesilny turbocharged four-stroke diesel engine V-92S2 production CTZ provides a new chassis power density from 20 to 35 hp / ton, depending on the final weight machines, and accelerates it to 65 km / h.

    Transmission and automatic gear shift is also borrowed from the T-90A. Ease of management in addition to automatic transmission is the wheel. As explained by VF Komarov: "With the wheel, we just serve an administration-speed manual transmission, but it is very reliable!" Certainly the use of a manual transmission, OPF unlike locus and GOPA may seem modern and obsolete solution. But do not forget that the Russian military machine is distinguished from competitors in the first place great reliability and maintainability. In some cases a conservative approach to design gives the best results. As a good example in this regard it is worth recalling the history of the introduction of automatic GMT ESM-350m production SESM - French subsidiary of German company RENK on the Polish Tank PT-91M. It is because of problems with this transmission and logistics in general, the performance of the contract for the supply of these machines, Malaysia dragged on for 1,5 years and is in jeopardy. Moreover, the parameters of the reliability of logistics, these machines, according to Russian GOST simply would not survive the trials and were found to be unfit for use. But ESM-350m - is RENK! The world simply does not have a single manufacturer who could compete on equal terms with RENKom in this area. Of Russian industry in its present stage of development is better just hush up. In Russia, only one or two companies in a position to exercise that precision is required in the manufacture of GMT. Oils and other fluids have such a quality that, as encapsulated in the hydraulic system without prior training very quickly clog filters, and then everything just dies. Hydraulic leak due to one or other reasons is not only dangerous for the mobility, and catastrophic. But we are talking primarily about fighting machine that will most likely be exposed to enemy fire. And finally, it is worth recalling the low efficiency of GMT, the natural effect of the very principles of its work. Ukrainian KMDB developed and is now heavily advertised hydraulic transmission GOP-900 is designed for use in hydro-mechanical transmissions of heavy tracked vehicles weighing up to 60 tons of supposedly unbeatable efficiency. Perhaps this is so. However, its level of industrial development and implementation is at the level close to zero values. That's when Ukraine will be able to make this the GOP on an industrial scale and sells it to the mass production of combat vehicles, it is only in this case, you should pay attention to their advertising promises. Another important factor is also the cost of GMT. For example, the cost of the same ESM-350m exceed the total cost of some variants of the modernization package offered UKBTM for the T-72M1. A further drag on the issues of operation and repair: neither Russia nor the country - the traditional buyers of our defense products (Middle East, North Africa and Asia) do not have databases for quality repair and maintenance of such things.

    The ideology of the creation of combat vehicles Ural designers can not use raw, unreliable and untreated solutions. GMT, the GOP - it is certainly beautiful, it's certainly advanced technical solutions, but again, underneath all this must be a genuine production base!

    At the same time, however, as opposed to a healthy conservatism in the transmission of the chassis E300 is equipped with the latest set of digital avionics production Chelyabinsk "Electric." Thanks to digital technology reduced the number of control units and inter-block connections, resulting in the mass of the cable bundle has been cut 15 times. The driver has at his disposal zhidkokrstallichesky display, compact and convenient control panel, implemented the mapping information on an additional panel placed in the middle of steering column controls. Jobs of the crew on this prototype equipped with standard seating, but on request, they can easily be replaced with chairs extra comfort. Provides the installation of the equipment for air conditioning and maintenance of the microclimate, as the placement of the crew and for cooling electronic equipment.

    According to experts, the use of a single platform to optimize production, introduce a system of integrated services, service and repair. Correctness of embedded designers Ural ideas at this time is confirmed in practice - on the Indian armed forces defense now goes SAM «Akash» which as a platform base chassis used T-72 tank. This platform in a complex «Akash» a launcher, machine control panels and radar with phased array. Interestingly, the original designs of the Indian developers of this complex, as a base was to be used BMP chassis, but it is having low bearing capacity could not bear the load and the base of the T-72 has fallen here just in time. Given the massive rearmament of Indian Army on the MBT T-90S, suggestions uraltransmashevtsev on his new chassis more than appropriate. E300 chassis paves the way to the region and Russia's new self-propelled guns and SAM. Unfortunately, if in terms of design and technological solutions to problems at the moment are not available, in terms of further technical policy of the ROC and the prospects of procurement issues have mass. This clash of interests between industrial groups, personal ambition, but mainly all depends on the reluctance of high rank ordering departments to take responsibility. Exactly the same thing, but in terms of prospects for tank development and expressed the new CEO of OAO Scientific Production Corporation Uralvagonzavod Oleg Sienko: "There are people who do not want to take responsibility!". However, we hope that the state's interests outweigh the petty squabbles and tip the scales in the right direction.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:30 am

    Wow, lots of new info... thanks for posting.

    A bright future for 57-mm is envisioned in KB "Burevestnik" based at Nizhny Novgorod. While not exactly a breakthrough development, as it is essentially a shortened barrel of famous S-60 gun means it does not retain the brillliant ballistic qualities of its predecessor.

    Especially with laser guided shells for use against UAVs and aircraft

    Regarding the E300 chassis I think that it will make a good basis for the heavy brigades for both the main tank (T-90) and the heavy IFV and other heavy vehicles they will probably use in their heavy brigades.
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    T-90 MBT: News

    Post  medo on Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:11 pm

    Will russian army now start buying instead of older version of T-90 and BMP-3 newer version T-90M and BMP-3M with thermal imagers in FCS? This will be a very big improvement for BMP-3, which could work in the same capabilities day and night.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:21 pm

    Who the hell knows. It is all in limbo now with no orders for armour in 2011.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:34 am

    Well they have spent money on production facilities for the thermal sights, I would expect the intention is for installing these in armour.
    Of course with no communication about their plans it might not matter much if it has all been worked out.

    If the military has made all its decisions about its plans for the next 5 years but doesn't tell its MIC then its MIC will lose millions of dollars a year maintaining a capacity they don't need and the result is that when the Military is ready to order large numbers of armour they will find there is no production capacity left for tanks... but a lot of capacity to make trains if you want them... Sad
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  medo on Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:47 am

    I doubt they won't buy any new tank or armor in 2011, when the money is given. Maybe there are negotiations behind the scene about versions ans prices.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:45 am

    Or with my cynical hat on... which I will call Vlad the Cynical Hat (No offense meant Smile )

    I might say that production of Thermal sights is not at a rate yet that could equip new vehicles and upgrade existing vehicles and equip export vehicles so there will be no new vehicles made and perhaps later on we will be told that 100 tanks will be upgraded per year for the next 2 years and then they will ramp it up to 500 per year plus 100 new tanks and then by 2015 it will be 500 tanks per year getting upgrades and 250 new tanks and it will stay at that till they have enough new and upgraded tanks. (ie about 2,000 and about 6,000 respectively).

    The problem is that there is no point in upgrading the tanks till you have decided on the upgrade for the T-90, which was cancelled.
    This means that any upgrade of older models will be to the standard they have now... which means they have what they call an unsatisfactory tank and they are spending money upgrading obsolete to unsatisfactory!!!
    Even worse all this time the factory is sitting idle costing money in power and heating and even just keeping the place secure from theft and vandals...
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Serbia Forever 2 on Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:11 am

    The Russian army is to spend 300 billion rubles ($10 billion) in a drive to digitize its communications systems by 2012, the chief of the Russian General Staff Nikolai Makarov said on Tuesday.

    "It is necessary to have a technical base for resolving military tasks. It is communication that must be turned digital. We are currently working on it. We should resolve these tasks by 2012," Gen. Makarov said.

    One of the General Staff's main projects is a new tactical infantry control system.

    "A large sum of money, about 300 billion rubles ($10 billion) has been allocated to this," Makarov said, adding that the army's digital communication program is part of the Defense Ministry's draft arms procurement program up until 2020.

    MOSCOW, December 14 (RIA Novosti)


    Good to see the Russian army improving its communications, always seemed to be a weaker part of the Russiam militaty.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:56 am

    Not just the Russian forces.

    I remember reading reports from Desert Storm from British soldiers complaining that their radios were from the early 1970s and were rubbish.

    I agree, this is good news.
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    Russia's armed forces to spend $10 bln to go digital by 2012 - General Staff Chief

    Post  Russian Patriot on Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:12 am

    Russia's armed forces to spend $10 bln to go digital by 2012 - General Staff Chief

    RIA Novosti

    11:25 14/12/2010 MOSCOW, December 14 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian armed forces are to spend $10 billion on new digital communications by 2012, the chief of the Russian General Staff said on Tuesday.

    "It is necessary to have a technical base for resolving military tasks. It is communication that must be turned digital. We are currently working on it. We should resolve these tasks by 2012," Gen. Makarov said.

    One of the General Staff's main projects is a new tactical control system.

    "A large sum of money, about 300 billion rubles ($10 billion) has been allocated to this," Makarov said, adding that the armed forces digital communication program is part of the Defense Ministry's draft arms procurement program up until 2020.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2010/russia-101214-rianovosti02.htm
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:41 am

    Modern digital communications will enable much higher bandwidths and much higher data rates for Russian military C4IR equipment.

    This will likely make communications much much better but also lead to reduced radio device size as well.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  medo on Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:46 pm

    Now is 2011 and as I know money and Gosoboronzakaz for this year are accepted and signed. Anything known how many and what type of tanks and other armored vehicles Russian army will get this year? Anything more known if project of BMPT will go on and if they will be bought for army?
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:50 am

    As far As I know the BMPT has been rejected by the customer (Russian Army) and so because it is a developed product I would expect minor further development and a lot of testing and then an export push to try to get foreign funding.

    It could find a niche market for roles it wasn't designed for... in peace keeping operations it has the armament of a modern IFV but the armour of a tank so for peacekeeping operations or peacemaking operations it might be useful INSTEAD of a tank.

    Obviously it would not be ideal as a replacement for an IFV because it doesn't carry troops.

    The use of the vehicle instead of a tank in my opinion would warrant a replacement of the armament to the BMP-3M armament or perhaps even a 100mm rifled gun and a 57mm gun in place of the 30mm cannon. With a decent high velocity armour piercing 57mm round the only uses for the 100mm tube launched missiles would be enemy tanks. Even Helos could be engaged with laser guided 57mm shells probably to longer range than tube launched ATGMs can reach... especially if the gun is elevated and the round takes a lofted trajectory diving down on the target helo for speed... the max ballistic range of the 57mm round is something like 12km so 8-10km range should be reasonable for moving targets like helos.

    According to the title of this thread they wont get any tanks this year, though BTR-82s might start entering service. I haven't heard anything that suggests otherwise.

    BTW nice vid Austin Smile It is nice to see credit given where it is due. Further upgrades with new comms and battle management systems and the new turret rear autoloader should make it even better and safer for the crews.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Austin on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:06 am

    Interview with Ground Forces Chief

    http://www.redstar.ru/2011/02/22_02/2_02.html

    - What are the features of state defense contracts this year in respect of equipping the Army? What modern armaments arrive in units and Army in 2011-2012?

    The main feature of the state defense order this year is to move from the repair and modernization of the fleet AMSE to purchase only new, modern designs for the complete equipping of formations and military units of ground forces.

    Primarily provided to purchase advanced digital communications and automated control systems, such as ACS antiaircraft missile brigade (mixed group), Air Defense Forces "Polana D4M1", a new integrated station automation tactical control of army air defense, and others.

    In addition, the air defense troops the Army will have upgraded the S-300V4, Buk-M2 and Buk-M3, anti-aircraft missile systems, short-range Tor-M2U (M), portable anti-aircraft missile complexes "Igla-S" and "Willow".

    Extend equipment and units of missile troops and artillery operational-tactical missile Iskander-M ", the new multiple launch rocket systems, self-propelled guns" Host "and" Nona-SVK ", anti-tank missile system Chrysanthemum-S and guns" Octopus -SD.

    From armored vehicles provided procurement of armored personnel carriers BTR-new modification 82a, modern tank recovery vehicle BREM-K BTR-80 BREM-L based on the BMP-3, special armored vehicles carrying capacity up to 2,5 tons (Iveco, "Tiger," "Wolf"), as well as new truck KAMAZ family Mustang.

    Thus, the CBR defense troops will receive heavy flamethrower system TOS-1A rocket infantry flame-throwers increased range and power of thermobaric gear RPO PDM-A and aerial radiation survey complexes WRC.

    A corps of engineers - the newest station complex purification and desalination of water for road base chassis KAMAZ (SD-10 / 5), universal travel machine (UDM) and other effective means of engineering armament.

    All these purchases will contribute greatly to improving the combat capabilities of units and formations of ground forces. So we will change and evolve, so that in modern conditions play a crucial role in ensuring Russia's military security.

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    Post  Austin on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:16 am

    The Willow is the 'Verba" missile.

    Any idea what these systems are ?

    self-propelled guns" Host "and" Nona-SVK ", anti-tank missile system Chrysanthemum-S and guns" Octopus -SD.
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    Post  IronsightSniper on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:47 am

    The Khrizantema (Chrysanthemum-S) or AT-15 if you like NATO designations.

    The Nona-SVK.

    The Octopus-SD (known as the Sprut.)

    No idea what the "Host" is.

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    Post  Austin on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:51 am

    Found few of my answers

    SPG Host ---> Did not find yet
    Nona-SVK --->http://warfare.ru/?linkid=1563&catid=240
    anti-tank missile system Chrysanthemum-S ---> http://warfare.ru/?linkid=1580&catid=261
    Octopus-SD ---> http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2379.html

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    Post  Austin on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:52 am

    Oh I was also researching and found the answer , just as you did , Thanks

    Even I could not find what Host is , the problem is google translation does not do much justice .....must study russian language.

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    Russia's ground forces weaponry

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:34 am

    IronsightSniper wrote:

    No idea what the "Host" is.

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%A134
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    This is well worth a read in my opinion.

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:16 am

    This is well worth a read in my opinion.


    Postnikov on the Army and OPK (Part I)

    Ground Troops CINC, General-Colonel Aleksandr Postnikov really stirred up the hornet’s nest on Tuesday.  
    Russia’s defense sector – its OPK or oboronki – feeling offended recently, is abuzz about his comments.  

    Postnikov told a session of the Federation Council’s Defense and Security Committee:
    “Those models of weapons that industry produces, including armor, artillery and infantry weapons, don’t correspond to NATO’s or even China’s models in their characteristics.”
    The military hadn’t criticized the domestic OPK’s heavy armor and artillery systems to this point.
    Insulting Russian tanks is the particular point here.  According to Newsru.com, Postnikov apparently called the much-praised, newest T-90 in actuality just the 17th modification of the Soviet T-72.  And, at the current cost of 118 million rubles per tank, he suggested:
    “It would be simpler for us to buy three ‘Leopards’ [German tanks] for this money.”

    Newsru.com counters that Rosoboroneksport is proud of the T-90, its sales, and continued interest abroad, but admits it is weak against third generation ATGMs, modern sub-munitions, and “top attack” weapons.  
    The news outlet also notes that the Russian Defense Ministry has eschewed procurement of the T-95 and BMPT.

    In its editorial entitled “Import Generals,” Vedomosti takes Postnikov to task, saying it’s not sure whether he means new or used Leopards, but the German tanks probably come in at $7.5 million a piece at least, against the T-90 at $4 million [i.e. only part of one Leopard for 118 million rubles].  And, says Vedomosti, comparing Russian tanks to Chinese ones is lamer still on Postnikov’s part.

    According to the business daily, these criticisms of Russian armaments usually come with calls to buy the same systems abroad.  But the 2008 war with Georgia showed Russia’s deficiencies lay in soldier systems, comms, recce, C2, and some types of infantry weapons rather than in armor.  When Russia doesn’t make something like Mistral or it has inferior technology like UAVs, it’s understandable to buy foreign, but when it’s something like armor, it raises a lot of issues, according to Vedomosti.  Uralvagonzavod certainly needs tank orders.  The idea of large-scale foreign purchases is utopian, says Mikhail Barabanov.  The paper believes thoughts of buying Leopard tanks and Mistral mean Russia’s generalitet has plans beyond local wars.

    BFM.ru says Postnikov put the Ground Troops’ modern arms and equipment at only 12 percent of its inventory at present with, again, the goal of 70 percent in 2020.  At the end of this year, the army will get its first brigade complement of the newest automated C2 (ASU) system [i.e. presumably YeSU TZ]:
     “In November of this year, we plan to conduct research on the newest  ASU and hand down our verdict.”

    According to BFM.ru, he said NATO and China already have analogous systems:

     “But for us it is still the future.”

    Nezavisimaya gazeta focused on Postnikov’s comments on Ground Troops brigades.  He said he now has 70, but plans for 109 by 2020, including “future type” brigades:
    “There will be 42 brigades of the future type, in all there will be 47 military formations of the future type, including military bases abroad which will be built on the same principle.”

    The Glavkom didn’t say how the new brigades will be different from the old.

    Parsing what he’s talking about is a little tough.  At the end of 2008, the army talked about having 39 combined arms, 21 missile and artillery, 12 signal, 7 air defense, and 2 EW brigades for a total of 81, rather than Postnikov’s current 70.  One might guess a dozen arms storage bases in Siberia and the Far East could be fleshed out into maneuver brigades.  But where does the manpower come from?  Maybe some of the 70,000 officers cut and now being returned to the ranks by Defense Minister Serdyukov.

    Postnikov elaborated some on heavy, medium, and light brigades.  Heavy will have tanks and tracked armor.  

    NG concludes there won’t be a new tank.  Tanks in storage will get new electronics and Arena active defense systems.  According to Postnikov, medium brigades will get [among other things?]  the Bumerang amphibious BTR now in development.  This, says NG, is the first time anyone’s heard Bumerang.  But if it isn’t successfully developed or produced in sufficient numbers by 2020, the army will just buy armored vehicles abroad since there’s already ample precedent for this.

    Light brigades will have vehicles like the Tigr or the Italian LMV (Lynx), licensed production of which could begin in Russia this year.  One special Arctic brigade will be created at Pechenga.

    Several media outlets quoted Postnikov to the effect that there’s no plan to change 1-year conscription, but he noted:
    “In the transition to one year military service, military men received only a headache.”
    There’s lots more reaction to Postnikov’s statements, but it’s too much for one day.

    http://russiandefpolicy.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/postnikov-on-the-army-and-opk-part-i/

    I think future parts of this will make interesting reading too.I definitely agree that the problems the Russian Army faces today would not be solved with Leopards... or Leclercs for that matter.

    The purpose of the T-90 upgrade is to change the basic design to minimise the effects of its main deficiencies to a single unified standard that can be applied to existing T-90s and T-72BMs in reasonable conditions and then get them into service as a standard tank with good protection and fire power but also good optics and C2.
    Having one engine type and one Comms system etc etc will optimise purchasing, and also simplify training and maintainence with spares pools made smaller in range of types of components kept on hand and of course support training simplified as well.
    As mentioned in the article above... the Georgian conflict revealed problems with comms, recon, command and control, and in the case of MANPADS IFF.
    Better communications and C2 should help deal with the IFF problem with aircraft... and of course the problem goes both ways in the issue of identifying ground targets for the aircraft as well as part of the issue with recon.
    Buying Leopards would not solve any of this.

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