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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:05 am

    The Russian Army is introducing new technology management battle

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    http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=237875&p=7&sort=1&cid=1

    11.08.2009
    "Rosoboronexport", which is part of goskorporatsiyu "Rostehnologii actively promotes the world market for advanced control systems forces.

    It is Pogonovo Voronej were tested under a uniform system of military tactical bridge. Tests have shown - the combat capabilities of military units through new technologies could increase by 2-3 times, and the execution of some regulations to reduce the forty-fold.

    "I say 40 times, of course, about the time. But it is crucial for the general commander. Today is so moving target, that if you have time to hit for some time, this is your result, your superior," - explains the importance of the time on the field bout Vadim Potapov, deputy director general of NPC "Concern" Constellation. "

    "According to the radio or regular radio old time taken to park the team or battle orders from the brigade commander to the commander of military units amounts to tens of minutes, - said the representative of the group, Vladimir Fedorov. - Now, with the use of automated management tools, the unit of seconds to tens of seconds."

    Develops and implements new technologies in the management of the troops "Concern" Constellation. "There are 16 of the radio-electronic industry. They pose as separate elements, as well as automated systems that combine intelligence, management, and defeat.

    "What is a telecommunications system, telecommunications system? - Asked Vadim Potapov, and he himself is responsible, - This is actually the vessels, which runs the blood. Krov - is information. Today resource comparable to combat resource. In other words, almost one byte of information - this is one shell. It is not a simple byte of information that is relevant and reliable at the moment. "

    These satellite communication and navigation, with the unmanned aerial vehicles and operational intelligence are reflected in the computer analysis. It creates a common data picture of the battlefield.

    "There are 12 subsystems: the command headquarters, intelligence, artillery, electronic warfare, rear, tehobespecheniya, engineering troops, but all linked to horizontal single telecommunications platform - create an image of the modern management system forces Vadim Potapov. - All work on the general commander of presentation of information, an information resource, which is required for a decision. "

    The development of the system is useful not only to commanders and rank and file. This allows you to master modern technologies, which can be used to "citizen." In systems using modern digital radio 5-th generation.

    "This is one of the VHF radio band the fifth generation - represents one of the development of the group, Vladimir Fedorov. - First of all, the radio noise. It is implemented treatment program frequency. That is, the frequency varies with speed up to a hundred jumps per second, which provides the complexity of its interception.

    Now parts of the Moscow Military District has started pilot operation of the system. Trained three motorized company and battalion, tank, artillery units and air defense battalion.

    "In 2010, will be invited to some info-communication solutions in the form of IP telephony, which will reach the soldiers, - says Vadim Potapov immediate plans. - This will allow, as a concept treats the president to go to a single soldier. Dial the number and call."

    Developers create a telecommunications-based and systems for most types of military forces. For example, a group-gun anti-aircraft missile complex "Pantsir-P."

    Experts believe the introduction of new technologies in the management of tactical level will allow the forces of the Russian army greatly enhance combat capability.

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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:13 pm

    Russia and Europe will cooperate in the development of communications for Russia and foreign armies
    02.09.2009

    Moscow. August 31. Interfax-AVN - "Concern" Constellation "and the company Thales intend to cooperate in the development and establishment of management systems and communications to the tactical level in order to meet the needs of the armed forces of different customers around the world, the press office of Thales.

    "For the constellation of this collaboration is an excellent opportunity to launch several new solutions to meet the growing needs of the advanced features on the battlefield," - said General Director of "Concern" Constellation "Yuri Sidorov, whose words are contained in the message.

    In turn, manager of communications company Thales Pierre Suslenshi added that: "This cooperation reflects the strategy Thales to work with local centers and facilitate the transfer of know-how and technologies of Russia.

    Under the agreement, "Constellation" and Thales will combine our most advanced technology for the realization of integrated solutions for communications and control systems for vehicles, weapons systems produced in Russia and command posts for Russia's market and for export customers. Specific activities will be determined by the end of 2009.

    "Constellation" and Thales plan to offer a number of solutions for integrating communications systems tactical-level of Thales and tactical-level management systems developed by the Constellation. These solutions provide a full range of modern services, including secure and simultaneous transmission of voice and data, continuous operation of IP and knowledge of the tactical situation in real time. Integration of advanced equipment and communications systems will provide seamless connectivity and high level of protection on the battlefield, at every level of command and staff vehicles for the divisions to the level of the front line.

    "Concern" Constellation "- a leading company in its industry, is the leader of Russia's market and comprises 16 plants throughout Russia, with the number of employed about 20 thousand people. The main task of the group is the development, production and maintenance, modernization, repair and recycling of single system of command and control and weapons at the tactical level, hardware and software for automation, control and communications, electronic countermeasures terrestrial radio communications, including for export. foreign consumers of products of JSC "Concern" Constellation "serve customers in 12 countries.

    The company Thales is an international leader in the manufacture of electronic systems for international markets for defense, aerospace and security industry. During 2008, profit reached 12.7 billion euros. The company Thales operates 68 000 people in 50 countries.

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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:01 pm

    The General Staff has identified satisfactory majority of Russia's army brigades

    26/05/2009

    The results of the comprehensive inspection of military units and formations of Russia's army in 2008 / 09 academic year revealed neboegotovnost most teams "new image". On this November 10 "Newspaper" (GZT.RU).

    Thus, the "average" the General Staff estimated over 60 per cent of the brigades, "good" was every third compound, a rating of "unsatisfactory" had four teams. On the "excellent" were rated four operating units - the ships of the fleet.

    What specific ships were rated "excellent", without specifying, however it is known that this surface ships of rank 1 (the class of frigates and above) and submarines, all components of a little over 4 per cent of the total tonnage of ships. 55 percent of the ships of rank 1 and nuclear submarines have been estimated at "well".

    Ships of rank 1 and submarines are estimated as separate combat units, as they are equated with the brigade or division. This aircraft belonging to the squadron and the shelves are not evaluated separately. Therefore, in particular, despite successfully conducted a flight of strategic bombers in Venezuela, "excellent" the Air Force could not be obtained due to shortcomings in other areas, for example, poor quality of search and rescue support.

    Rated "good" were 26 divisions of all kinds and types of troops, including the Strategic Rocket Forces (RVSN), the Air Force and combat employment centers, which is about half of the available military forces in Russia.

    "Satisfactory" received 23 divisions, representing 47 percent of the total, 105 teams (over 60 per cent) and 97 separate regiments (50 percent). In general, it is more than half of the army and navy.

    On the "unsatisfactory" (which means the inability to conduct military operation) were assessed 4 brigades, including motorized Siberian and North-Caucasian military districts.

    Testing took place during the month in all the Armed Forces and ended on October 30. Its participants were the officers of the General Staff and the Commission of command of military districts and fleets.

    Ratings are the requirements to meet specific combat tasks in time. For example, for air defense systems is the time of detection of the target before the issuance of launchers coordinates for its destruction. For artillery and rocket forces one of the criteria for evaluating training is the accuracy of target engagement.

    As explained by the source in the General Staff, test results are unlikely to cause for dismissal, but the conduct of re-certification in the compounds is possible.

    According to the plan of the Ministry of Defense, the first stage of military reform should be completed Dec. 1, 2009, after which the armed forces should be switching over to 100-percent alert.

    In general, the reform provides for a range of measures to improve the combat readiness of the Armed Forces.

    In particular, the increase in fighting strength of the army by 2012, reduction of command posts and 150 thousand, as well as reducing the number of military units.

    In addition, the changes also affect the system of coordination control warheads, which implies the formation of constituencies on the basis of operational-strategic commands, which in case of mobilization must comply with all factions of forces in the area.

    Results after the transition to the "new look" in the army will remain 172 units and formations. In the Air Force of 340 units will remain 180, while in the Navy 123 parts of 240. Strategic Rocket Forces will reduce from 12 to 8 parts. Space Forces and the landing will reduce from 7 to 6 and from 6 to 5 units.

    http://lenta.ru/news/2009/11/10/army/

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    Appointments in Russia's MD

    Post  Farhad Gulemov on Mon May 24, 2010 7:09 pm

    I have just come across the info that the 58th Army has a new commander: Major-General Andrei Valerievich Kartopolov:

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/career/news/2010/05/07/1010498

    I could find absolutely no info on this guy, not even a short bio. Considering that he is now in charge of aguably the most critial Army of the Russian armed forces, it would be very interesting to know more about this appointment.

    Does anybody have any info at all on this guy and his career?

    Thanks in advance,

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Wed May 26, 2010 8:43 pm

    Farhad Gulemov wrote:I have just come across the info that the 58th Army has a new commander: Major-General Andrei Valerievich Kartopolov:

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/career/news/2010/05/07/1010498

    I could find absolutely no info on this guy, not even a short bio. Considering that he is now in charge of aguably the most critial Army of the Russian armed forces, it would be very interesting to know more about this appointment.

    Does anybody have any info at all on this guy and his career?


    Thanks in advance,

    FG


    All is unknown! The Ministry has a way to hide things*.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Farhad Gulemov on Wed May 26, 2010 11:25 pm

    Russian Patriot wrote:

    All is unknown! The Ministry has a way to hide things*.

    They sure do, but I wonder why nobody else seems to be curious about this. Тhe other weird appointment is for Lt-Gen. Alexander Galkin as C-in-C of the North Caucasus MD. The best I can tell this guy has no combat experience either (see here).

    I just wonder what the rationale for these appointments is confused

    In the meantime, there is an interesting experiment happening in this MD. The Russian Army has created an experimental reconaissance brigade (source here)

    The 58th Army and the NCMD seem to me as the most interesting ones to follow, at least to me, yet it appears that hardly anybody else is paying attention.

    weird...

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:46 pm


    Russia's first deputy defense minister discharged

    RIA Novosti

    18:50 22/06/2010 MOSCOW, June 22 (RIA Novosti) - In a shakeup at the Russian Defense Ministry, Col. Gen. Alexander Kolmakov has been dismissed as first deputy defense minister, the Kremlin press service said on Tuesday.

    He was replaced by former deputy minister Vladimir Popovkin in charge of arms procurement.

    Kolmakov, 55, could have served for another five years until reaching the mandatory retirement age of 60 but President Dmitry Medvedev refused to grant him an extension and discharged him from service.

    Addressing Popovkin, Medvedev, who is commander in chief of the Russian Armed Forces, said he was sure that Russia "will be able to carry out the state arms program that is currently being finalized."

    He said it was critical to modernize, upgrade and re-outfit the military "and lay the groundwork for the development of the Armed Forces through 2020 and even 2030."

    He said the new first deputy defense minister should pay special attention to suppliers "who sometimes make mischief," referring to overpricing their products.

    Medvedev said earlier on Tuesday he had appointed Lt. Gen. Sergei Karakayev as the new commander of the Strategic Missile Forces.

    Karakayev, former SMF chief of staff, replaces Col. Gen. Andrei Shvaichenko.

    Medvedev offered no reason for the dismissal of Shvaichenko, who had served in his position for less than a year (since August 2009), but said the SMF must at all times be "in full combat readiness and able to perform missions assigned to them."

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2010/russia-100622-rianovosti03.htm

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:34 am

    If Popovkin has been promoted than we know T-95 will never see the light of day.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:47 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:If Popovkin has been promoted than we know T-95 will never see the light of day.

    Thats true ! Can you sticky this Vlad?

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:05 pm


    Russian President appoints new deputy defense minister

    RIA Novosti

    11:50 06/08/2010 MOSCOW, August 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has appointed ex-deputy head of the Federal Tax Service Tatyana Shevtsova to the post of deputy defense minister, the Kremlin said on Friday.

    Shevtsova, 41, has worked for the Russian tax authorities since 1991 and served as the deputy head of the Federal Tax service from 2004.

    In May, the Defense Ministry appointed Shevtsova and another ex-deputy of the Federal Tax Service, Nadezhda Sinikova, to the ministry counsel.

    The current Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov served as Federal Tax Service head until 2007.


    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2010/russia-100806-rianovosti03.htm

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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:11 pm

    Medvedev demands more domestic telecoms equipment for Russian army

    RIA Novosti

    16:06 01/10/2010 GORKI (Moscow region), October 1 (RIA Novosti) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called on Friday for domestic production of telecommunications equipment for the security forces to be stepped up.

    "Currently, we buy this kind of equipment from nearly 40 foreign firms," Medvedev said at a Security Council meeting.

    "Sometimes we can't dispense with it [foreign technology] ... but we should make the best use of our capabilities in the area of [telecoms] equipment and software," he said.

    All analog telecommunications within the country's Armed Forces should be replaced by digital technologies, Medvedev said.

    National security can only be ensured with the help of up-to-date telecommunications, he added.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2010/russia-101001-rianovosti01.htm

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:47 am

    Excellent.

    Good infrastructure will improve growth.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Austin on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:17 am

    Medvedev urges creation of mobile communications for special services

    President Dmitry Medvedev has set Russia's security agencies the task of creating a reliable modern system for confidential mobile communications, the secretary of the Russian Security Council said Friday.

    "We will work on this, and I hope such communications will appear soon: we have already done some groundwork," Nikolai Patrushev told journalists after a Security Council meeting.

    Patrushev explained that he meant mobile phones on which confidential conversations could be held from any point on the Earth.

    "And the talk cannot be intercepted," said Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, who delivered a report at the meeting.

    Patrushev said currently available systems are too bulky.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Andy_Wiz on Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:54 pm

    A bright future for 57-mm is envisioned in KB "Burevestnik" based at Nizhny Novgorod. While not exactly a breakthrough development, as it is essentially a shortened barrel of famous S-60 gun means it does not retain the brillliant ballistic qualities of its predecessor. Some suggest that it might be innovative in terms of feeding mechanism and seems the main R&D efforts are concetrated on getting bigger rate of fire and to speed-up changing ammo casettes while not overcrowding module and vehicle ammo station with highly explosive rounds.. The system is only slightly related to the 57-mm battle compartment tested for PT-76B in late 90-s. Other innovations must be in area of remotely controlled fuses of the projectiles, PGMs although I still expect better gun ballistics for naval version in the future as well as considerably higher rate of fire (similar to BAE Systems Mk 110 57 mm gun of the LCS).


    The Navy version seems to be ready for tests.

    The feeding mechanism in its current stage consists of folllowing-
    Automated ammo rack for 20rounds that are ready for immediate fire:

    b)it is supplied with behind the turret mechanised storage for 100 rounds that reloads the rack in 10-15s. Additionaly you can choose which type of ammo to reload first in the rack.


    Module is autonomus which means it may eventually be installed on the broad range of vehicles:


    Some additional thoughts here(in Russian):
    http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/14202.html#cutid1







    This is also interesting proposition - joint chassis E-300 not directly related to future platforms, but allows a commonality of T-72B, T-90 related vehicles to be sufficiently risen.



    Here is babelfish translation of this article: http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/xlopotov_8/0rea_2009.htm

    A real sensation of the Ural weapons Salon «RUSSIAN EXPO ARMS 2009" has become a new universal chassis from OAO Uraltransmash. The appearance of this machine are interested in many experts, although most of the media have not noticed it at all. In these days of the exhibition was working delegation of the Defense Ministry. Judging by how long the experts acquainted with the layout of a new unified chassis, this development deserves special attention.

    "This layout was presented to the public for the first time. At the moment it is one of our major developments. This chassis to unify with the main battle tank Russian T-90 ", - said General Director of Uraltransmash" Yuri Comrat.

    Manufacturer's designation of a new car - "E300". According to the deputy chief designer, head of SKB-Transmash special JSC Uraltransmash "Komarov, Vladimir Fedorovich, E300 - is their initiative only development. Action in all senses. Both on the idea and funding. Their appearance a new chassis immediately aroused great interest, both in military and military-industrial circles. "I just tell you my feelings, they can certainly not be true, but I have a feeling it happened that both the military and among the industrialists such an easy panic rose, because before a General Discussion, papers are different. Papers can be describing whatever you want them. And we have a really built machine that runs, you can touch, kick, next to another car place "- said in an interview with Vladimir Fedorovich. The reason for such "silent panic" is simple - the suspension and "BuK" and "Tunguska" exhausted themselves to the possibility of further growth of the load. The same situation with his family for "URALTRANSMASH" chassis ACS "Acacia" and "MSTA". There are always applied to support roller relatively small diameter and a small carrying capacity of the chassis, which in turn imposes limitations on the growth of the mass of vehicles and payloads, respectively. At the same time, the use of heavy armored vehicles as universal as inappropriate. This option is offered Nizhny Tagil UKBTM is justified to create a unified line on the chassis front edge of the combat vehicles - tanks, BMPT, TBTR, CBT, LMC, BREM, BIS, other heavy engineering vehicles and machinery support. However, the heavy tank chassis with protection level, and therefore the mass, it is absolutely not required for the SAU, SAM and the various crank, radar installations. World trends at the same time require unification of all park military vehicles. How to reconcile these contradictions? Exit Ural Designer found in the application of a single unified platform.

    As conceived by Chief Designer - CSC chief Valery Alexandrovich and lead engineer on the car Dmitry Malyshev (can not but rejoice that the engineering staff, we started getting younger - Dimitri just 26 years) using a light body chassis on a single, unified platform with tanks having a high bearing characteristics, makes it possible to carry up to 25-28 tons of payload at a total machine weight to 50 tons.

    To compare:

    weapon «BUK-М1
    chassis GM-596
    chassis weight, kg 24000
    total weight, kg 35500
    maximum cargo load, kg 11500

    weapon «Tunguska-М1»
    chassis GM-5975
    chassis weight, kg 23800
    total weight, kg 36000
    maximum cargo load, kg 11500

    weapon «TOR-М1»
    chassis GM-5955
    chassis weight, kg 27000
    total weight, kg 37000
    maximum cargo load, kg 11500

    chassis «future E-300»
    chassis weight, kg 24500
    total weight, kg 50000
    maximum cargo load, kg 28000


    That's why as a basic machine for the platform has been selected T-90S tanks. Of course, depending on the type and type of loading body will change. Simply by virtue of the functional features of the set of possible states of load it can not be the same, but the body after all - it's not a problem! The main thing - it is a platform. Decision must be made that suspension will be precisely this. It can serve as a basis not only for the installation of 155-mm long-range howitzer M-388 (developer of "plant number 9), but also for other military vehicles. Such as the control point air defense radars, launchers of anti-aircraft missiles, tracked mine layers, and others. However, in the case of ACS, it is not applicable tank blade dampers. For ACS and SAM launchers, they must be controlled and at least dual-mode. For this reason, blade dampers T-90 tank have been replaced by telescopic. Another technical problem transmashevtsam ahead in adapting his chassis under the Buk. There probably need to introduce some additional control system, because "beech" in certain modes need a rigid fixation of the case. This matter is currently in the study.

    MTO E300 chassis is identical MTO MBT T-90A, and depending on the expected loads can be accomplished with a front or rear. Tysyachesilny turbocharged four-stroke diesel engine V-92S2 production CTZ provides a new chassis power density from 20 to 35 hp / ton, depending on the final weight machines, and accelerates it to 65 km / h.

    Transmission and automatic gear shift is also borrowed from the T-90A. Ease of management in addition to automatic transmission is the wheel. As explained by VF Komarov: "With the wheel, we just serve an administration-speed manual transmission, but it is very reliable!" Certainly the use of a manual transmission, OPF unlike locus and GOPA may seem modern and obsolete solution. But do not forget that the Russian military machine is distinguished from competitors in the first place great reliability and maintainability. In some cases a conservative approach to design gives the best results. As a good example in this regard it is worth recalling the history of the introduction of automatic GMT ESM-350m production SESM - French subsidiary of German company RENK on the Polish Tank PT-91M. It is because of problems with this transmission and logistics in general, the performance of the contract for the supply of these machines, Malaysia dragged on for 1,5 years and is in jeopardy. Moreover, the parameters of the reliability of logistics, these machines, according to Russian GOST simply would not survive the trials and were found to be unfit for use. But ESM-350m - is RENK! The world simply does not have a single manufacturer who could compete on equal terms with RENKom in this area. Of Russian industry in its present stage of development is better just hush up. In Russia, only one or two companies in a position to exercise that precision is required in the manufacture of GMT. Oils and other fluids have such a quality that, as encapsulated in the hydraulic system without prior training very quickly clog filters, and then everything just dies. Hydraulic leak due to one or other reasons is not only dangerous for the mobility, and catastrophic. But we are talking primarily about fighting machine that will most likely be exposed to enemy fire. And finally, it is worth recalling the low efficiency of GMT, the natural effect of the very principles of its work. Ukrainian KMDB developed and is now heavily advertised hydraulic transmission GOP-900 is designed for use in hydro-mechanical transmissions of heavy tracked vehicles weighing up to 60 tons of supposedly unbeatable efficiency. Perhaps this is so. However, its level of industrial development and implementation is at the level close to zero values. That's when Ukraine will be able to make this the GOP on an industrial scale and sells it to the mass production of combat vehicles, it is only in this case, you should pay attention to their advertising promises. Another important factor is also the cost of GMT. For example, the cost of the same ESM-350m exceed the total cost of some variants of the modernization package offered UKBTM for the T-72M1. A further drag on the issues of operation and repair: neither Russia nor the country - the traditional buyers of our defense products (Middle East, North Africa and Asia) do not have databases for quality repair and maintenance of such things.

    The ideology of the creation of combat vehicles Ural designers can not use raw, unreliable and untreated solutions. GMT, the GOP - it is certainly beautiful, it's certainly advanced technical solutions, but again, underneath all this must be a genuine production base!

    At the same time, however, as opposed to a healthy conservatism in the transmission of the chassis E300 is equipped with the latest set of digital avionics production Chelyabinsk "Electric." Thanks to digital technology reduced the number of control units and inter-block connections, resulting in the mass of the cable bundle has been cut 15 times. The driver has at his disposal zhidkokrstallichesky display, compact and convenient control panel, implemented the mapping information on an additional panel placed in the middle of steering column controls. Jobs of the crew on this prototype equipped with standard seating, but on request, they can easily be replaced with chairs extra comfort. Provides the installation of the equipment for air conditioning and maintenance of the microclimate, as the placement of the crew and for cooling electronic equipment.

    According to experts, the use of a single platform to optimize production, introduce a system of integrated services, service and repair. Correctness of embedded designers Ural ideas at this time is confirmed in practice - on the Indian armed forces defense now goes SAM «Akash» which as a platform base chassis used T-72 tank. This platform in a complex «Akash» a launcher, machine control panels and radar with phased array. Interestingly, the original designs of the Indian developers of this complex, as a base was to be used BMP chassis, but it is having low bearing capacity could not bear the load and the base of the T-72 has fallen here just in time. Given the massive rearmament of Indian Army on the MBT T-90S, suggestions uraltransmashevtsev on his new chassis more than appropriate. E300 chassis paves the way to the region and Russia's new self-propelled guns and SAM. Unfortunately, if in terms of design and technological solutions to problems at the moment are not available, in terms of further technical policy of the ROC and the prospects of procurement issues have mass. This clash of interests between industrial groups, personal ambition, but mainly all depends on the reluctance of high rank ordering departments to take responsibility. Exactly the same thing, but in terms of prospects for tank development and expressed the new CEO of OAO Scientific Production Corporation Uralvagonzavod Oleg Sienko: "There are people who do not want to take responsibility!". However, we hope that the state's interests outweigh the petty squabbles and tip the scales in the right direction.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:30 am

    Wow, lots of new info... thanks for posting.

    The parameters of payload and useful volume in the present, this machine is the only modern alternative to the widespread among the troops landing gear MT-LB, but in mobility and cross-protection it greatly exceeds it.

    That is impressive because the MT-LB seems to be preferred to the BMP for cross country mobility, especially in deep snow or mud. If this vehicle has even better mobility then it is a very impressive machine. (especially with extra armour protection).

    And T-95 seems to have remained only legit next gen tank to be continued(not anymore as there will be new proposals for 2015).

    I have been told it is its weight that is the problem (55 tons makes it too heavy to be mobile enough).
    I have seen a plastic model of a proposed tank from the 1980s with an external main gun and it has a 30mm cannon too. Perhaps this talk of including radar is not just for self defence.
    I have heard also sorts of stories about an outer layer of ERA that can be remote fired from inside the vehicle based on MMW radar data of incoming rounds to get max standoff protection, but adding a 30mm cannon could allow engagements of aerial targets as well.
    I guess we will find out eventually.

    A bright future for 57-mm is envisioned in KB "Burevestnik" based at Nizhny Novgorod. While not exactly a breakthrough development, as it is essentially a shortened barrel of famous S-60 gun means it does not retain the brillliant ballistic qualities of its predecessor.

    Especially with laser guided shells for use against UAVs and aircraft

    Regarding the E300 chassis I think that it will make a good basis for the heavy brigades for both the main tank (T-90) and the heavy IFV and other heavy vehicles they will probably use in their heavy brigades.

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:41 am

    The reason the Americans dealt with Iraqi forces so effectively in desert storm was because they had much better C4IR.

    Knowing where you are and where the enemy is is what C4IR is all about.
    The better your tactical information the better the plans are.
    In combat things change, so if you are able to learn of those changes and are able to issue new commands and change tactics the more effective a force will be.

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    Post  Andy_Wiz on Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:17 pm

    GarryB wrote:Wow, lots of new info... thanks for posting.

    That is impressive because the MT-LB seems to be preferred to the BMP for cross country mobility, especially in deep snow or mud. If this vehicle has even better mobility then it is a very impressive machine. (especially with extra armour protection).

    Hello,

    I think what it means is that its average speed is higher(which is likely so), may be it has vehicle information and control system that makes the driving and turning more swift and easy for the rookies, as well as reduces fuel consumption by eliminating wasteful engine modes and helps engine acceleration, response etc.
    The cross-terrain mobility of MT-LB esp. in winter time, at mountain, mud and other extreme locations, is where it is undefeated. So I also doubt they could beat MT-LB in that department, esp if '502TB' it somewhat related to BMP-3. Not counting out that this is advertisment material.
    But you see they were testing it almost 8 years now and still no info apart from this muddy video...



    I have been told it is its weight that is the problem (55 tons makes it too heavy to be mobile enough).
    I have seen a plastic model of a proposed tank from the 1980s with an external main gun and it has a 30mm cannon too. Perhaps this talk of including radar is not just for self defence.
    I have heard also sorts of stories about an outer layer of ERA that can be remote fired from inside the vehicle based on MMW radar data of incoming rounds to get max standoff protection, but adding a 30mm cannon could allow engagements of aerial targets as well.
    I guess we will find out eventually.

    As for 30mm gun it is almost 100% that it was there.
    Radar MMW system is also what I heard. Though I heard it as one of channels for gunner(Gunner would have a merged images from different channels for.ex 3rd gen thermal images, several optical channels and radar in one big screen(15"-17"), not separated like Predators have Wink)
    As for ERA it was confirmed that it is netiher Kontakt-5 nor Relikt so your version is not impossible. I heard that obj.'195' has not only removable ERA but the armor plates are also modular(i.e.removable)a feature that was partly implemented on Merkava mk.4, although the obj.195 hull is more like a framework, where you put armor plates like lego pieces. Some basic-supporting plates, side armor are non removable of course..

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:31 am

    But you see they were testing it almost 8 years now and still no info apart from this muddy video...

    As long as existing stuff is exporting there is no hurry to reveal next gen stuff just yet.

    As for 30mm gun it is almost 100% that it was there.
    Radar MMW system is also what I heard. Though I heard it as one of channels for gunner(Gunner would have a merged images from different channels for.ex 3rd gen thermal images, several optical channels and radar in one big screen(15"-17"), not separated like Predators have Wink)

    I have read that the vehicle was literally designed for a 24/7 war and that all 3 crew positions at the front of the vehicle include controls to perform all roles in the vehicle so that crew can swap between roles of gunner and driver and commander without changing seats. For normal operations (ie driving to and from positions or sitting in wait the vehicle is operated by a driver and commander while the gunner rests. In direct combat all three work, but there is a rest schedule to allow the tank to remain operational 24/7 like a sub.)
    Regarding the MMW radar... that is a bit like the radar they fit to heavy weapons like towed anti tank guns and support weapons like the Plamya and the Kord for detecting moving groups of people up to 2km away. The radar is called FARA-1.

    I had also heard the engine is a gas turbine but they have gone for electric drive which means the turbine can be run to generate electricity which makes it much more efficient than in the T-80U.

    As for ERA it was confirmed that it is netiher Kontakt-5 nor Relikt so your version is not impossible.

    In a sense it is a logical next step from ARENA really.

    I also wish those guys all the best, as range of 57mm as well as target seeker makes it extremely valuable esp. when you need to hit UAV, or HARM, JASSM type munitions, the shrapnell from 57mm may do just fine. I think it is the naval system that may be pushed through for export customer first, than make its way to Russian Navy and Army eventually. Anyway hope to see this on trials soon. (altough it is my speculation, that 57mm AA system is to be deployed for Navy first)

    With the US working on small swarm UCAVs that operate in large numbers I think a vehicle with 100 rounds of 57mm guided shells might be just the solution both in terms of rate of fire and ready to use ammo. The only other viable solutions apart from dumb guns which would be quite inefficient (the swarm are hardly likely to bunch up in nice target swarms so a single 50 round burst of 30mm shells will kill a few of them) might be lasers, but the problem of rate of fire and of course number of shots possible become an issue.
    Of course laser guided shells don't have to be used against aircraft... you could use it to get a HE shell in a window at 6km too.

    As a naval round it has potential for dealing with anti ship missiles too.

    plus probably to some extent light and medium brigades may find 120mm howitzers useful.

    More a howitzer/mortar really.

    Regarding the Hosta, thanks for that info... I had seen a prototype before but thought it was a one off with no future.

    I guess it is cheap because of the available chassis and spares.

    Another signal that Ainet ideology is eagerly sought in Army is appearance of tank missiles with HE/shrapnel effect. They are 9m119F, 9m199F1. They were first shown at 'Technologies in Engineering 2010' expo this year.

    I have read that the tank fired missiles were limited in service use for many reasons, including the fact that they have a special use... ie hitting enemy tanks at long range. Enemy tanks at shorter range are better engaged with other ammo types.
    Another reason for not carrying all missiles however was also cost in that the missiles were said to be something like 3 times the cost of KONKURs and 5 times the cost of METIS-M.
    I guess if they want HE and Frag armed models the cost has either gone down or it will reduce ammo expenditure to a degree that makes the extra cost per round viable.
    Of course the cost of making them has probably gone down with time too.

    And I hope that the new shell with better frontal fragmentation performance gets into service as the standard 125mm shell.
    It would be useful for use against a country with a large amount of manpower...

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    Post  medo on Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:11 pm

    Will russian army now start buying instead of older version of T-90 and BMP-3 newer version T-90M and BMP-3M with thermal imagers in FCS? This will be a very big improvement for BMP-3, which could work in the same capabilities day and night.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:21 pm

    Who the hell knows. It is all in limbo now with no orders for armour in 2011.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:34 am

    Well they have spent money on production facilities for the thermal sights, I would expect the intention is for installing these in armour.
    Of course with no communication about their plans it might not matter much if it has all been worked out.

    If the military has made all its decisions about its plans for the next 5 years but doesn't tell its MIC then its MIC will lose millions of dollars a year maintaining a capacity they don't need and the result is that when the Military is ready to order large numbers of armour they will find there is no production capacity left for tanks... but a lot of capacity to make trains if you want them... Sad

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    Post  medo on Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:47 am

    I doubt they won't buy any new tank or armor in 2011, when the money is given. Maybe there are negotiations behind the scene about versions ans prices.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:45 am

    Or with my cynical hat on... which I will call Vlad the Cynical Hat (No offense meant Smile )

    I might say that production of Thermal sights is not at a rate yet that could equip new vehicles and upgrade existing vehicles and equip export vehicles so there will be no new vehicles made and perhaps later on we will be told that 100 tanks will be upgraded per year for the next 2 years and then they will ramp it up to 500 per year plus 100 new tanks and then by 2015 it will be 500 tanks per year getting upgrades and 250 new tanks and it will stay at that till they have enough new and upgraded tanks. (ie about 2,000 and about 6,000 respectively).

    The problem is that there is no point in upgrading the tanks till you have decided on the upgrade for the T-90, which was cancelled.
    This means that any upgrade of older models will be to the standard they have now... which means they have what they call an unsatisfactory tank and they are spending money upgrading obsolete to unsatisfactory!!!
    Even worse all this time the factory is sitting idle costing money in power and heating and even just keeping the place secure from theft and vandals...

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    Post  Serbia Forever 2 on Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:11 am

    The Russian army is to spend 300 billion rubles ($10 billion) in a drive to digitize its communications systems by 2012, the chief of the Russian General Staff Nikolai Makarov said on Tuesday.

    "It is necessary to have a technical base for resolving military tasks. It is communication that must be turned digital. We are currently working on it. We should resolve these tasks by 2012," Gen. Makarov said.

    One of the General Staff's main projects is a new tactical infantry control system.

    "A large sum of money, about 300 billion rubles ($10 billion) has been allocated to this," Makarov said, adding that the army's digital communication program is part of the Defense Ministry's draft arms procurement program up until 2020.

    MOSCOW, December 14 (RIA Novosti)


    Good to see the Russian army improving its communications, always seemed to be a weaker part of the Russiam militaty.


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    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:56 am

    Not just the Russian forces.

    I remember reading reports from Desert Storm from British soldiers complaining that their radios were from the early 1970s and were rubbish.

    I agree, this is good news.

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