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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:07 am

    As TR-1 said, they are keeping one for testing, and they have two more they are thinking about what to do with, whether they convert them to cruise missile carriers, or use them for research, or other purposes.

    BTW they are actually Akula class subs... it is unfortunate that NATO calls SSNs of the Shuka class Akula.


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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  Firebird on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:36 am

    I wonder how much it would cost to build 3 Typhoons today?
    Its interesting that miltary agreements mean the trashing of machines that could be used for conventional and not just nuclear conflict. I'm thinking thge Tu-160s the Ukraine was paid to destroy. Or the 3 Typhoons that have gone already. Arguably the half built Ulyanovsk that the Ukraine was encouraged by the US to scrap.

    Why is it that agreements never call for 5 or 6 Nimitz to be chopped in half?
    Rant over..! How successful could a Typhoon be as a forward ABM base? I also remember Russian designs for a small submarine that could fly out of the water. Perhaps a Typhoon could be a mothership for that?

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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:33 pm

    Two Project 941 nuclear ballistic missiles submarines, "Severstal" and "Arkhangelsk" will be scrapped

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:02 am

    Shame they couldn't be turned into museums with all the secret bits removed... and of course all the nuke bits removed.

    It reportedly had 3-4 libraries and open places for sitting a reading including aviarys with real birds flying around, and at least 3 swimming pools for the crew to relax when they were not on duty.

    No hot racking either... you got your own bed that you didn't have to share with two other people like you do on some US subs.


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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:22 am

    GarryB wrote:Shame they couldn't be turned into museums with all the secret bits removed... and of course all the nuke bits removed.

    It reportedly had 3-4 libraries and open places for sitting a reading including aviarys with real birds flying around, and at least 3 swimming pools for the crew to relax when they were not on duty.

    No hot racking either... you got your own bed that you didn't have to share with two other people like you do on some US subs.

    Agreed. At least one should be preserved and retained, as the class deserves to live on as the largest submarine ever built. Practically speaking, it should be the Dmitry Donskoi as (I assume) it would be the best preserved of its class?

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    Post  collegeboy16 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:07 pm

    damn, what a waste. Sad

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    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:00 am

    World's Largest Sub Leaves Port for Arctic War Games

    The Russian nuclear-powered strategic submarine Dmitry Donskoy, touted as the largest submersible vehicle in the world, has reportedly entered the White Sea, where it is due to take part in anti-submarine drills.

    A source in the Russian Northern Fleet said on Friday that the Russian Akula class nuclear ballistic missile submarine Dmitry Donskoy has left its base in the city of Severodvinsk, entering the White Sea, where it will take part in anti-submarine war games, according to the website flot.com.

    Taking part in the drills are, among other vehicles, the anti-submarine ships Onega and Naryan-Mar.

    Dmitry Donskoy's previous mission in the White Sea lasted three weeks and wrapped up on July 16, 2015.

    The vessel, named after the Grand Duke of Moscow Dmitry Donskoy, measures 172 meters in length and has a crew of 160, making it the world's largest submarine.

    In 2002, the twenty launchers for the R-39 ballistic missiles the submarine originally carried were replaced with launchers for the most advanced submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) to date, the RSM-56 Bulava. The past few years have seen a spate of successful Bulava launches from the Dmitry Donskoy.

    Although she was built in 1980 as a third generation submarine, the Dmitry Donskoy is now referred to as a fourth generation submarine due to her extensive modifications.

    Apart from its twenty Bulava SLBMs, the submarine is equipped with six 533mm torpedo tubes and eight Igla (Needle) anti-aircraft missile systems. The vehicle is capable of staying at sea without surfacing for about 180 days.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150904/1026590302/russia-world-submarine-drills-white-sea.html#ixzz3kpTk0fSH


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    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:01 am

    So it is a training submarine now??


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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  Militarov on Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:59 am

    "The world’s largest submarine, the Dmitri Donskoy (TK-208), Nato-coded Typhoon, has set sail for the Mediterranean and is destined for the Syrian coast, DEBKAfile reports exclusively from its military and intelligence sources. Aboard the sub are 20 Bulava (NATO-code SS-N-30) intercontinental ballistic missiles with an estimated up to 200 nuclear warheads. Each missile, with a reported range of 10,000km, carries 6-10 MIRV nuclear warheads. The Russian sub set sail from its northern base on Sept. 4, escorted by two anti-sub warfare ships. Their arrival at destination in 10 days time will top up the new Russian military deployment in Syria. President Vladimir Putin’s introduction of a nuclear force opposite Syrian shores builds up what first looked like an operation to fortify Assad’s regime in Damascus into a military expedition capable of an air and sea confrontation with US forces in the Middle East."

    Source for silly news: http://www.debka.com/article/24873/Russian-submarine-with-20-ICBMs-and-200-nuclear-warheads-is-sailing-to-Syria

    Debkafile is worse each day i swear, they even claim its armed with 20 Bulavas, meanwhile only 1 launcher has been converted to accomodate Bulava for testing. Who are these people that write this crap. Even if TK208 is going towards Syrian waters from what i am aware its now used as training submarine, so it will participate in that naval exercise near coast of Syria that is already being annoynced.

    Funniest part: "DEBKAfile reports exclusively from its military and intelligence sources.", right.

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:12 pm

    Militarov wrote:"The world’s largest submarine, the Dmitri Donskoy (TK-208), Nato-coded Typhoon, has set sail for the Mediterranean and is destined for the Syrian coast, DEBKAfile reports exclusively from its military and intelligence sources. Aboard the sub are 20 Bulava (NATO-code SS-N-30) intercontinental ballistic missiles with an estimated up to 200 nuclear warheads. Each missile, with a reported range of 10,000km, carries 6-10 MIRV nuclear warheads. The Russian sub set sail from its northern base on Sept. 4, escorted by two anti-sub warfare ships. Their arrival at destination in 10 days time will top up the new Russian military deployment in Syria. President Vladimir Putin’s introduction of a nuclear force opposite Syrian shores builds up what first looked like an operation to fortify Assad’s regime in Damascus into a military expedition capable of an air and sea confrontation with US forces in the Middle East."

    Source for silly news: http://www.debka.com/article/24873/Russian-submarine-with-20-ICBMs-and-200-nuclear-warheads-is-sailing-to-Syria

    Debkafile is worse each day i swear, they even claim its armed with 20 Bulavas, meanwhile only 1 launcher has been converted to accomodate Bulava for testing. Who are these people that write this crap. Even if TK208 is going towards Syrian waters from what i am aware its now used as training submarine, so it will participate in that naval exercise near coast of Syria that is already being annoynced.

    Funniest part: "DEBKAfile reports exclusively from its military and intelligence sources.", right.

    To make this article even more pathetic, they have posted a picture of a Schuka-B SSN and labeled it as the TK-208.... Twisted Evil

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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  Militarov on Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:58 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"The world’s largest submarine, the Dmitri Donskoy (TK-208), Nato-coded Typhoon, has set sail for the Mediterranean and is destined for the Syrian coast, DEBKAfile reports exclusively from its military and intelligence sources. Aboard the sub are 20 Bulava (NATO-code SS-N-30) intercontinental ballistic missiles with an estimated up to 200 nuclear warheads. Each missile, with a reported range of 10,000km, carries 6-10 MIRV nuclear warheads. The Russian sub set sail from its northern base on Sept. 4, escorted by two anti-sub warfare ships. Their arrival at destination in 10 days time will top up the new Russian military deployment in Syria. President Vladimir Putin’s introduction of a nuclear force opposite Syrian shores builds up what first looked like an operation to fortify Assad’s regime in Damascus into a military expedition capable of an air and sea confrontation with US forces in the Middle East."

    Source for silly news: http://www.debka.com/article/24873/Russian-submarine-with-20-ICBMs-and-200-nuclear-warheads-is-sailing-to-Syria

    Debkafile is worse each day i swear, they even claim its armed with 20 Bulavas, meanwhile only 1 launcher has been converted to accomodate Bulava for testing. Who are these people that write this crap. Even if TK208 is going towards Syrian waters from what i am aware its now used as training submarine, so it will participate in that naval exercise near coast of Syria that is already being annoynced.

    Funniest part: "DEBKAfile reports exclusively from its military and intelligence sources.", right.

    To make this article even more pathetic, they have posted a picture of a Schuka-B SSN and labeled it as the TK-208....  Twisted Evil
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    I didnt even notice that one lol, image so small Very Happy

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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:18 am

    TK-17 Arkhangelsk is to be disarmed by having her missile tube covers removed and her missile tubes filled.

    https://www.rt.com/news/335300-russia-disarms-nuclear-sub/

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    Re: Typhoon class SSBNs future:

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:09 am

    After seeing the performance of Kalibr and Klub in Syria I would think removing the SS-N-20 tubes and replacing them with two layers of 30 UKSK launchers would be a good idea... one platform that you could send to deliver a serious blow to any enemy state from an unexpected direction... 60 x 8 would be 420 ready to launch weapons that could include land attack cruise missiles, and supersonic anti ship missiles and of course anti sub torpedo ballistic delivery rockets... not to mention the near future hypersonic cruise missiles.


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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:34 am

    GarryB wrote:After seeing the performance of Kalibr and Klub in Syria I would think removing the SS-N-20 tubes and replacing them with two layers of 30 UKSK launchers would be a good idea... one platform that you could send to deliver a serious blow to any enemy state from an unexpected direction... 60 x 8 would be 420 ready to launch weapons that could include land attack cruise missiles, and supersonic anti ship missiles and of course anti sub torpedo ballistic delivery rockets... not to mention the near future hypersonic cruise missiles.

    Agree 100% russia The prospect is salivating , though I'd hate to consider the cost of a conversion. It's probably cheaper to build a new boat...

    Note sure that UKSK launcher is the appropriate launcher subsystem however, given that this is a submarine application, and each bin apparently holds 4 missiles. Any idea what designation is given to the VLS in the Yasen class?

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    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:40 pm

    "A decision has now been made to recycle the Severstal and the Arkhangelsk at the Zvezdochka plant in Severodvinsk [Arkhangelsk Region]," the source said.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160318/1036517212/akula-class-nuke-subs.html#ixzz43GWXdzpN


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