I have read that foreign units have been invited to participate to the next Victory Day parade in Moscow.
Does anybody have the exact list of the units which we will march on that day?
GarryB wrote:The Russian army and the Soviet army before it are largely a conscript army.
They tried having contract soldiers but there were lots of problems and instead of moving towards an all contract soldier base it seems they will retain a conscript army for a while yet.
Recently they have been buying new equipment and improving conditions... for instance a private company will be paid to do things like cooking and laundry etc... things the conscripts had to do before that didn't really train them to be soldiers, but it is just the beginning of a change that wont happen over night.
They also increase pay levels as well which should also improve conditions too, but there are problems to be solved.
When called to invade far off lands for power and prestige I would never send a conscript army, but in conflicts defending Russia I am not in doubt that most if not all Russian soldiers will do their utmost to fight off an invader.
So are you referring that Russian army yet isn't prepared for US like
global wars. I mean US has more army outside the America than in
The word Conscript is very disturbing literally. Can a conscript operate a tank or an S-300 battery?
Conscripts generally never work out well. IMO it's best to make it voluntary as then you have the most willing people to whom you can most easily shape to your military ideals in your army, rather than a bunch of scared kids.
The Israeli Army is actually an exception to the rule that conscripts never work well :v
1 ) The fundamental problem with T-90 or any T series tank is the loose ammo in the crew compartment , if there is a penetration of turret the molten fragment will hit the loose ammo and will cause secondary explosion in the turret but before that the crew could also die from fragments ?
2 ) Western Tank barring Abrams carry ammo in turret but they are place in ammo containers which makes them safer then carrying loose ammo in the turret.
But there is still the fundamental problem of ammo close to crew which can explode for many reasons and kill the crew
3 ) So the option is to isolate it from crew and put it in rear turret bustle , though turret bustle is not as heavy armoured but it isolated crew from ammo , if the ammo explodes the crew may still be safe as they are located in heavy armour.
4 ) T-90AM will still have the problem of ammo close to crew because even though loose ammo moves to turret bustle , there is still ammo below the crew compartment though protected by heavy armour , but the crew still sits above it.
The point is that most tank crew have flak jackets and helmets that will stop fragments so unless the penetration goes through a crew member then for most penetrations they should actually be OK.
The issue is when a KE or HEAT round hits the turret there is first and foremost a tremendous shock effect , it is possible the shock effect would disorient the crew or worst could blow the ammo , that is inspite of the fact it has kelvar spall.
If there is penetration the molten fragments from armour and ke would fly in many direction in the crew compartment killing the crew instantly in most direction , the jet could still continue and hit a loose ammo or ammo in a canister and could cause explosion.
I have my own reservations over flak jackets and helmets being of any use incase of penetration , if he is lucky he would get out from burn wounds of spall , toxic gas and a shock effect that would take time to recover.
GarryB wrote:The penetration of the crew compartment will obviously make the crew compartment uncomfortable, but unless hit by fragments or inhaling metal in a hot gas state it is not going to kill.
To blow the ammo it needs to come into contact with the ammo and if the ammo is in an armoured area under the floor the penetration would need to be near vertical to penetrate the armoured ammo compartments... so no, it wont blow the ammo.
Then why do we hear about penetrations of Challanger tanks where the Driver just loses a foot but the rest of the crew is fine?
Why do we hear about penetrations of Abrams from the side where one crew man is injured and the rest are fine?
A penetrator... and it might surprise you but HEAT penetrators actually work like APFSDS penetrators at the speeds and energies involved... everything is treated like a liquid, because at above a km per second that is how armour reacts to penetrations of solids (APFSDS at 1.5-2km/s) and much higher speed liquids (HEAT rounds with liquid metal beams of material at 4-5km/s).
Very simply both are designed to penetrate armour and if they both spread out and killed everything inside it wouldn't have been concentrated enough to penetrate the armour in the first place.
The only time everyone dies in an armoured vehicle is when ammo and fuel is ignited and there is an internal explosion.
And it might well happen , the crew might inhale toxic fumes and the shock from hit might disorient him , the kevlar spall might break and fly around and kill.
In case of T-90A ,T-72 or earlier T series ammo is loose in crew compartment and it might blow at it hits it , with T-90AM it will be much safer as there is no loose ammo.
From what I understand Abrams were never penetrated till date and Challenger had one penetration but do you have any stastics ?
From what I understand the KE penetrators would could more over all destruction compared to HEAT that would blow a hole and kill any one inside if its in its path.
Thats a valid argument but even if their concentrate their force at one spot , these molten metal would still fly inside the tank and not outside as they try to penetrate , if the molten mentals do fly and crew end up in their path it would injure them badly.
Or the explosive blow up due to direct hit from fragements or due to shock.
njb1 wrote:Not seen anything in the 'plan' for ground forces on buying / developing the improved AK200 assault rifle - or am I missing some thing?
Ak-200 is not a major system that would come under "plan" like a ssbn , it would be part of future soldier system and eventually after clearing all trial it would be inducted without much fanfare