Western propaganda

Wikipedia is spewing more anti Russian propaganda shit again. This time the Russian government is Exclusively labelled as a form of "Authoritarian System"  




Meanwhile, other countries that is obviously Authoritarian has NO mention of such term in their own respective pages.  

Saudi Arabia


North Korea



This is clear proof that western operated so-called "INDEPENDENT" institutions/organizations cannot be trusted no matter how hard they advertise/claim themselves to be impartial in the work that they do.

And didn't Russia planned on setting up their own alternative to Wikipedia several years ago? Whatever happened to that project? NATO will not hesitate to use all tools at their disposal to smear Russia whenever opportunity presents itself. Enough is enough. Russia needs to hit back and build a formidable force in the information space.

Did you see CoD: Modern Warfare?

They managed to turn the Highway of Death into a Russian atrocity. They also portray Jihadsts as good guys.

I am not buying the game at least not in the near future.

I just want to know is the protests in Hong Kong really about democracy or is the West engaging in subversive tactics? Their was an NBA executive that tweeted his support for the Hong Kong protesters and China was upset about it.  What is the truth?

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/18661007/hong-kong-protest-2019-china-extradition

http://www.unz.com/avltchek/western-media-portrays-hong-kong-hooligans-as-heroes-but-are-they/

http://www.unz.com/article/hands-off-hong-kong-the-cry-that-seldom-is-heard/

I heard that China wanted the NBA to fire this executive but the NBA said no.  What is shocking is that Twitter is banned in China so nobody knows about his tweet.  I support the NBA on this as the Chinese government has no reason to tell the NBA that Daryl Morey should be fired for something he said in the US.  It is not like he was over there saying it; moreover, nobody has twitter over in China so his tweet is unknown.  

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/daryl-morey-tweet-nba-china/index.html


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/10/17/china-wanted-daryl-morey-fired-nba-adam-silver-refused/4014011002/

andalusia wrote:I just want to know is the protests in Hong Kong really about democracy or is the West engaging in subversive tactics? Their was an NBA executive that tweeted his support for the Hong Kong protesters and China was upset about it.  What is the truth?

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/18661007/hong-kong-protest-2019-china-extradition

http://www.unz.com/avltchek/western-media-portrays-hong-kong-hooligans-as-heroes-but-are-they/

http://www.unz.com/article/hands-off-hong-kong-the-cry-that-seldom-is-heard/

I heard that China wanted the NBA to fire this executive but the NBA said no.  What is shocking is that Twitter is banned in China so nobody knows about his tweet.  I support the NBA on this as the Chinese government has no reason to tell the NBA that Daryl Morey should be fired for something he said in the US.  It is not like he was over there saying it; moreover, nobody has twitter over in China so his tweet is unknown.  

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/daryl-morey-tweet-nba-china/index.html


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/10/17/china-wanted-daryl-morey-fired-nba-adam-silver-refused/4014011002/

They want Chinese money, but they also want to be disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do. You cant just go to your boss expecting a pay check and maintaining your job position while being constantly disrespectful and disobedient. Easy solution: leave the Chinese market, this way they can keep their moral stance without compromising their beliefs. You cant have it both ways.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

andalusia wrote:I just want to know is the protests in Hong Kong really about democracy or is the West engaging in subversive tactics? Their was an NBA executive that tweeted his support for the Hong Kong protesters and China was upset about it.  What is the truth?

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/18661007/hong-kong-protest-2019-china-extradition

http://www.unz.com/avltchek/western-media-portrays-hong-kong-hooligans-as-heroes-but-are-they/

http://www.unz.com/article/hands-off-hong-kong-the-cry-that-seldom-is-heard/

I heard that China wanted the NBA to fire this executive but the NBA said no.  What is shocking is that Twitter is banned in China so nobody knows about his tweet.  I support the NBA on this as the Chinese government has no reason to tell the NBA that Daryl Morey should be fired for something he said in the US.  It is not like he was over there saying it; moreover, nobody has twitter over in China so his tweet is unknown.  

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/daryl-morey-tweet-nba-china/index.html


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/10/17/china-wanted-daryl-morey-fired-nba-adam-silver-refused/4014011002/

They want Chinese money, but they also want to be disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do. You cant just go to your boss expecting a pay check and maintaining your job position while being constantly disrespectful and disobedient. Easy solution: leave the Chinese market, this way they can keep their moral stance without compromising their beliefs. You cant have it both ways.

Explain to me what the NBA is doing in being disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do?

Did you see CoD: Modern Warfare?

They managed to turn the Highway of Death into a Russian atrocity. They also portray Jihadsts as good guys.

I am not buying the game at least not in the near future.

Good example of America's use of its soft/ cultural power for political ends. Both Russia and China needs to make their own domestic alternatives to American cultural products such as TV shows, Computer games, Films, Sports, etc.

And as for not buying the game in the near future, why not just get a Pirated copy? That way Activision will not get even a single dime from your hard earned money.

Explain to me what the NBA is doing in being disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do?

Voicing support for Hong kong Rioters/ Separatists is a BIG NO. NBA officials and players needs to STAY AWAY from political topics. Again, this is an example of America's use of its soft power to interfere with other country's domestic affairs. NBA and Blizzard are being used against China while COD: MW is being used against Russia. Both countries needs to develop their own alternatives to everything American and then promote it to other countries to counter American soft power influence across the world. They should be doing this RIGHT NOW and not tomorrow.

The Chinese already make very good TV shows but very crappy video games. Their TV series and movies are msotly for domestic market too.

Russia did make several highly acclaimed video games but they don't touch sensitive topics.

Explain to me what the NBA is doing in being disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do?

OK, how about this... some Russian officials start telling the US police to stop shooting black people because black lives do matter... and if they don't stop funding regime change and coloured revolutions around the world that Russia might start funding undesirable groups in the US directly.

The show ponies in Hong Kong rose up in protest because Hong Kong was introducing extradition laws to China... they already have extradition agreements with the US and you can bet they only go one way... are you understanding this?

So it is democratic and free for the US to extradite a citizen of Hong Kong to the US... which the US does all the time in political cases like Assange and that Russian pilot, and various people they have accused of hacking, but it is not OK to have a similar agreement with China because China is evil and will abuse and misuse such a law... you know... like America does all the time...

Yeah, HK protests are completely spontaneous and not funded directly by the US or George Soros...

BTW you probably get regular updates about these riots in Hong Kong... do you get any coverage from any other riots like France whose yellow jacket riots have gone on for over a year, or the riots in Spain? ...riots happening everywhere but only time for HK riots... right... that is not biased.

BTW Twitter has an office in Hong Kong and is only banned on mainland China... but surely your tell the truth reveal the whole picture tell all sides of the story western media already mentioned that...

GarryB wrote:

Explain to me what the NBA is doing in being disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do?

OK, how about this... some Russian officials start telling the US police to stop shooting black people because black lives do matter... and if they don't stop funding regime change and coloured revolutions around the world that Russia might start funding undesirable groups in the US directly.

The show ponies in Hong Kong rose up in protest because Hong Kong was introducing extradition laws to China... they already have extradition agreements with the US and you can bet they only go one way... are you understanding this?

So it is democratic and free for the US to extradite a citizen of Hong Kong to the US... which the US does all the time in political cases like Assange and that Russian pilot, and various people they have accused of hacking, but it is not OK to have a similar agreement with China because China is evil and will abuse and misuse such a law... you know... like America does all the time...

Yeah, HK protests are completely spontaneous and not funded directly by the US or George Soros...

BTW you probably get regular updates about these riots in Hong Kong... do you get any coverage from any other riots like France whose yellow jacket riots have gone on for over a year, or the riots in Spain?   ...riots happening everywhere but only time for HK riots... right... that is not biased.

BTW Twitter has an office in Hong Kong and is only banned on mainland China... but surely your tell the truth reveal the whole picture tell all sides of the story western media already mentioned that...  

But the NBA is a private business and are not apart of the US government so the analogy with Russian officials is flawed. I strongly agree with you about US hypocrisy regarding Extradition treaties.

A Reuters "journalist" illegally entered hospital rooms for Russia forces to attempt to create fake news about Putin's
"private army". The Russian veterans organization has demanded the "journalist" be prosecuted for the various
laws she broke and that Reuters have its accreditation suspended. I fully agree. No coddling of information
terrorists.

I find it strange that Russian law still treats hospitals like public parks. There should be a basic law on trespass.
You can actually trespass in public buildings if your actions are malicious. This should be a catch-all law that includes
protestors standing in doorways and on the sidewalk a few feet from the building.

But the NBA is a private business and are not apart of the US government so the analogy with Russian officials is flawed. I strongly agree with you about US hypocrisy regarding Extradition treaties.

Wikileaks is a private business... will that protect Julian Assange? Not a part of any government... he was a hero when the secrets being released were about Russia and China and other countries that were not the US... one US official on US TV said that the US has special forces and Black Ops people and they should just kill him.

Owners of Facebook etc dragged in front of congress to explain policies regarding the last US election.

The Funny thing is that they are being very American about it... the Coca Cola company will make all sorts of demands regarding how its stock is presented in a shop that is privately owned... whether that shop gives in to that pressure is largely up to that shop.

How much is China worth to the NBA in terms of income and sales... if very little then they most likely will claim free speach and all that bullshit that doesn't even exist any more. If... however they have long term plans to start selling products in that market with 1.5 billion consumers with spending money looking for American crap to buy then that guy might lose his job.

People these days lose jobs for less... a racist joke from the 1990s, or an inappropriate image posted or cartoon forwarded... why would he think he can support criminal activity and nothing happen to him?

Idiot.

Youtube is working hard to SILENCE users who are not in line with America's narratives.




This is probably the technique Youtube admins are using that is why RT's subscriber base is lower than the West's propaganda mouthpiece channels.











I am going to repeat this again, and Russia's national security council needs to hear this. Create Alternatives to American soft power institutions like Youtube, Facebook, Google etc and make significant efforts to PROMOTE its use not just in Russia but across the world to pose a challenge to American cultural influence.

People here might say, but Russia already have Yandex (vs Google), VK (vs Facebook), but how much is its share in the global social media market? it is still dwarfed by both Google and Facebook, so what needs to happen? Russia needs to promote and expand these companies to rival its American counterparts with the aim of taking over America's global customer base.

I have a friend in Russia, I have been chatting with her for a couple of years now, She is a smart and patriotic citizen of Russia. But recently, when I last talked to her, she gave me her INSTAGRAM account. The key point here is INSTAGRAM, another American soft power tool that aims to influence (though subliminal means) its global audience to align their views and beliefs with American narratives. Again, Russia needs to challenge Instagram with its own domestic alternative and with a similar aim of propagating their own (Russia's) narratives. This step is the only way to erode American covert influence operations and increase positive public perception of Russia in around the world.


Meanwhile: BBC is busy making Propaganda BULLSHlT in an effort to create animosity between Russia and China.

Why Chinese farmers have crossed border into Russia's Far East

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50185006

The British can try and play their centuries long games of divide and conquer, but they will fail. Russia and China are just too cultured
and mature to be led around by the nose by some two bit country with delusions of grandeur. Some arrogance is actually healthy
since it counteracts credulity. The UK has nothing to offer either China or Russia to get them to follow it around like some puppy.

First of all, I don't bother with crap like instagram or facebook or those other american based services, but if I did... any alternative would have to be in English for me to consider it.

The Russian equivalent to youtube I have tried but all the videos and talk is in Russian so I go back to Youtube.

Schizophrenic drivel from western media about Ukraine winning against Russia in the Nord Stream II "battle".
First they compare the supposed 3% dependence of Ukraine's GDP on oil and gas transit to Russia's 40% federal
and 20% total (real numbers are 36% and 17% as of 2017, but every year the fraction of oil and gas in Russia's
GDP has been shrinking, so the real number is approaching 15%). In other words, Ukraine supposedly could
care less about NS II. Since Gazprom now has to scramble to make a deal with Banderastan (formerly known
as Ukraine) due to the various delaying tactics by EU members and Washington, supposedly the Kiev regime wins.

But it is the western media itself that routinely bleats about "Russia trying to cause economic damage to Ukraine"
with NS II. So which is it? Is Banderastan sensitive to the loss of oil and gas transit fees or is it not? You can't
have it both ways.

Russia doesn't have to scramble to get a new deal with the Ukraine.

If there is no deal in place when the existing one expires then the gas stops.

If europe can't get enough gas via existing pipelines then that is their fault for blocking Russian efforts to create new pipes.

Russia has LNG if they want to buy that or they can buy from the US... both of which will be both rather more expensive and take time because it is not like you have it on tap and can just turn a switch and it flows through existing pipes.

If they want their gas through Ukrainian pipes then they need to pay extra for it because those pipes are old and are not maintained properly and gas often gets stolen when gas goes that way.

Russia tried to create alternatives but europe impeded those solutions so the cost is increased energy prices...

NATO is trying to set up Russian language media sources in the Baltic states to "counter Russian propaganda".   They talk
about engaging the Russian minority in the Baltics for constructive participation in the political process.

Stand back and marvel at this Orwellian BS.   It is the regimes of those Baltic states that has imposed apartheid on the
Russian minorities, deprived them of citizenship rights and language rights.    They have been subjected to work discrimination
and basically ethnic cleansing.   But not all of them have been driven out and this is particularly painful for Latvia where
they account for a substantial part of the economy.   Now these Baltic f*cks and their NATO overlords have the gall to
claim to want the Russian minorities to "participate".   Get f*cked.

Americans are crying that the S-400 is out-competing their Patriot trash. They screech that Russia is "forcing" the S-400 on
other countries. In fact, big bad Russia by selling the S-400 is preventing the USA from existing as as normal country, that
is, preventing from doing whatever the f*ck it pleases. Really? Go and hump a log, retards.

So we see how much Americans really believe in the free market and competition.

They hate free market competition, and most of the bribes by big business is to change laws to suit their companies and penalise their economic rivals.

Money does not go in to R&D... it goes into politicians pockets... all the new US uber weapons don't seem to work properly.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mapping-chinas-global-debt-serfdom-ification

Oh my, China is lending other countries money. The horror.



Funny, I don't recall the concern for the NATO west acting as the loan shark to the developing world. Westerners are
in no position to moralize about Chinese loans. As it stands now, they are a better option for the developing world
and this explains why the western loan sharks are worried.

Funny. As far as I know Amiland ows China arount 2 Trill. Maybe even more when you include company and consumer debt. But... no data available!

Hole wrote:Funny. As far as I know Amiland ows China arount 2 Trill. Maybe even more when you include company and consumer debt. But... no data available!

The map is a piece of propaganda that tries to make it look like China is a neo-colonial power. Actual colonial power media sources
bitching about Chinese loans to the developing world...thick and rich hypocrisy.

As of May of this year, US debt to China is 1.11T dollars. 27% of its total Bond holdings.

That makes it much better. Just 1,1 Trill.

kvs wrote:

Hole wrote:Funny. As far as I know Amiland ows China arount 2 Trill. Maybe even more when you include company and consumer debt. But... no data available!

The map is a piece of propaganda that tries to make it look like China is a neo-colonial power.   Actual colonial power media sources
bitching about Chinese loans to the developing world...thick and rich hypocrisy.

And they say nothing about the different principles governing while lending from the West vs East

It seems like pure eruption of envy for the lost markets East ow has is and West would like to have.