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    Post  Viktor on Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:30 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    First light transport aircraft L-410 Russian Air Force put on skis
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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:20 pm

    UWCA and Diamond to develop an aircraft for the Russian Ministry of Defense
    Russian Aviaton » Thursday October 2, 2014 11:20 MSK

    Specialists of the joint venture between Diamond Aircraft and Ural Works of Civil Aviation (UWCA, Sverdlovsk Region) will complete the conceptual design of DA-42T aircraft intended for Russian Ministry of Defense, i-Mash reports.

    According to the information policy department of the governor of Sverdlovsk Region, “UWCA won the tender for development of a new aircraft for the Ministry of Defense. Other governmental agencies have also expressed interest in the aircraft, so the state procurement may be expanded in future", - the governor of Sverdlovsk Region, Evgeny Kuivashev, explained.
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    Cooperation between the companies will create about 500 new jobs. Christian Dries, CEO of Diamond Aircraft, said: "I have visited Sverdlovsk Region and UWCA enterprise many times and I think that this region offers ideal conditions for development of production".

    The joint venture between Diamond Aircraft and UWCA was established almost two years ago. At present its backlog stands at 3 billion rubles. In June 2013 UWCA was chosen as the only manufacturer of Diamond aircraft in Russia and CIS Region.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:45 am

    UWCA and Diamond to develop an aircraft for the Russian Ministry of Defense

    Don't know why they would be cooperating with a Canadian company considering how anti Russian the Canadian government seems to be...

    Just looks like an ordinary light twin engine aircraft to me.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:40 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    UWCA and Diamond to develop an aircraft for the Russian Ministry of Defense

    Don't know why they would be cooperating with a Canadian company considering how anti Russian the Canadian government seems to be...

    Just looks like an ordinary light twin engine aircraft to me.

    Doesn't seem like Russian's are learning much lessons.  Maybe they are ignorant or maybe just hoping that they won't get affected by these sanctions business.  But yeah, if I was running a Russian business, the last place I would be looking for JV work would be Canada, US or most of EU.  I would be instead looking at Asia, european countries like Serbia, or Brazil for jv.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:27 pm

    The 16-seat Rysachok aircraft to perform its maiden flight in the first quarter of 2015
    Russian Aviaton » Thursday October 9, 2014 15:30 MSK

    The maiden flight of 16-seat light multi-role Rysachok aircraft is scheduled for the first quarter of 2015, Interfax reports with reference to a source close to the military-industrial sector.

    "At present five Rysachok aircraft are under construction: three of them will feature a 16-seat configuration and the rest two ones – 10-seat configuration. The first 16-seat liner will perform its maiden flight in the first quarter of 2015", - the source said.

    According to him, at first the aircraft will undergo flight development tests and then the certification testing will be started. "Almost all the results of certification tests passed by the 10-seat version of the aircraft will be recognized for testing of 16-seat version as well", - the source added.

    Commenting the information that Russian Ministry of Defense issued a performance specification for the aircraft in spring, he said: "The Ministry did issue the performance specification and now it is being considered by the enterprise, because it will have to use own funds for development of this vehicle. The ministry is not going to finance the project".

    It was reported earlier the Rysachok may be operated from unpaved runways with a soil strength of about 5,5 kg/sq.cm. Russian air forces plan to use Rysachok as a reconnaissance and patrol aircraft. The airliner is powered by М601F engines (Н80 for production vehicles) having a power of 750 (770) h.p. It is able to carry up to 10 passengers (production version will be fitted with 16 seats). Its range is 2000 km; cruise speed varies from 250 to 400 km/h.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:46 am

    Here it says that Rysachok utility aircraft production has been suspended
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    Post  franco on Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:59 pm

    Aerospace Force receives another 4 L-410 UVP's. This makes a total of 15 received so far.
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1424032.html
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    Post  franco on Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:03 pm

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html

    - 35 DA42T twin prop trainers to be purchased for basic air training of Military Transport Aviation air crew
    - MoD interested in another 18 L-410UVP 19-seat STOL to be manufactured in Russia
    - also a updated version of the Israeli Searcher Mk2 assembled in Russia made completely with Russian parts to also be purchased. (There were ~ 30 Searchers complexes or Forpost in Russian purchased, each with Control, Recovery, Maintenance units along with 3 UAV's.)
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    Post  MC-21 on Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:00 pm

    The Ministry of Defense of Russia began purchasing Diamond DA42T aircraft as training
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    As reported on December 25, 2017 by the Department of Information and Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov visited the Urals Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA) in Yekaterinburg on a working visit.


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    The Diamond DA42T aircraft (on-board number "054"), intended for delivery to the Ministry of Defense of Russia, in the shop of JSC "Ural Civil Aviation Plant" (UZGA). Ekaterinburg, December 25, 2017 (with) Alexey Ivanov / TRK "Zvezda"

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    Speaking at a meeting with the company's staff, Yury Borisov said that the Russian Defense Ministry planned from 2019 on further purchases of Vorpost drones, improved taking into account combat experience in Syria and assembled entirely from Russian components.

    "In Syria," Forpost "has proven itself from the very best side. Therefore, we are making plans for the next decade to use these complexes. Naturally, they will undergo modernization, "Yury Borisov explained.

    He thanked the employees of the plant, who were constantly at the airbase of Khmeimim in Syria, where they provided maintenance for unmanned vehicles.

    "The plant supplied about 30 Forpost complexes to the troops, but they were still assembled from imported components. At the request of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the plant has performed work on import substitution and we are discussing plans for ordering a new contract in 2019 with 100% localization. Thus, "Outpost" will be entirely Russian, "- said Yuri Borisov.

    The reconnaissance unmanned fleet "Forpost" includes three aircraft and a ground control station. The weight of one aircraft is 500 kilograms. He is capable of reconnaissance from a height of five kilometers for 16 hours at a distance of up to 400 kilometers.

    Yuri Borisov also said that "the Ministry of Defense has a firm contract for 35 training aircraft that will be used to train cadets of military transport aviation."

    According to him, in 2017, three aircraft were delivered. In 2018, the state joint tests will be completed.

    "In the plans for next year there are already 17 aircraft, and in 2019, another 15. Total will be 35 aircraft delivered," - explained Yuri Borisov.

    He also noted that the Defense Ministry has plans to use the aircraft as a platform in other areas, including as a patrol.

    In addition, the Ministry of Defense of Russia was interested in aircraft L-410.

    "It interests us for use in difficult weather conditions, for landing on water, on snow. We provided a modification of the float and ski, so that it could be used in the interests of including special operations forces, "Yury Borisov said.

    The multi-purpose 19-seat L-410 aircraft is produced at the Ural Civil Aviation Plant in two versions: as a training and transportation vehicle for cargo and passengers.

    Modernization of the aircraft by the plant means, first of all, the replacement of the on-board equipment with the domestic one, the change in landing gear of the chassis is a ski chassis for landing on snow and a float for landing on water. In addition, a landing gear for landing on a soft ground, unprepared platform is being developed.


    The bmpd comment. Thus, we are talking about the beginning of the purchase by the Ministry of Defense of Russia of light two-motor four-seat aircraft Diamond DA42 NG Twin Star, produced by the Austrian company Diamond Aircraft Industries GmbH, to be used as training aircraft for preparation for the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA) cadets of military transport aviation of the Russian Air Force. The DA42 NG airplanes are equipped with Austro Engine AE 300 aviation diesel engines from Austro Engine, owned by the same Diamond Aircraft,

    Recall that the issue of the acquisition by the Ministry of Defense of Russia aircraft Diamond DA42 NG as training was instituted in 2010-2011. In 2013, UZGA received a contract from the Ministry of Defense to create a specialized training version of the DA42 NG, designated DA42T. Earlier it was reported that the assembly of DA42T at UZGA was to begin in 2015, and in 2016 it was planned to achieve their localization of the level of supposedly 100%. However, in fact, the assembly of these machines for the Ministry of Defense was started, as can be seen from the above message, only now.

    UZGA also participates in the development of manned and unmanned observation platforms based on DA42 aircraft (such platforms based on DA42 are widely used all over the world). As it was already reported, in 2016 the Russian FSB purchased two DA42M NG aircraft from the UZGA with additional equipment for use in reconnaissance variant "for provision of state needs". Now the interest to such complexes on the basis of DA42 NG is shown by the Russian Defense Ministry. It should be noted that such aircraft are widely used

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    Post  eehnie on Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:12 pm

    franco wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html

    - 35 DA42T twin prop trainers to be purchased for basic air training of Military Transport Aviation air crew
    - MoD interested in another 18 L-410UVP 19-seat STOL to be manufactured in Russia
    - also a updated version of the Israeli Searcher Mk2 assembled in Russia made completely with Russian parts to also be purchased. (There were ~ 30 Searchers complexes or Forpost in Russian purchased, each with Control, Recovery, Maintenance units along with 3 UAV's.)    

    This is intereting. It refers to some of the weakest contracts of air equipment, and all have the same factory involved.

    The L-410 and the Diamond DA42 are both small auxiliary aircrafts of foreign orignin and low technological level, that make not a difference in the defense of Russia. The Diamond DA42 has still to pass some tests in 2018, where can have some problems, and likely the L-410 will require some tests too. The UAV includes a little more advanced technology, but at this point is surpassed.

    The three are fairly dispensable for Russia. I do not expect these contracts to be completed.

    If there is budget for these contracts with this factory, it is obvious that the problem would be with the products to produce in the factory. Very likely this factory needs a new strong product to make. Maybe some of the most modern UAVs.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:06 pm

    Sorry if this has been mentioned before.
    does anyone know why Russia is purchasing 35 Diamond DA42 Twin Star trainers from Austria? doesn't Russia have anything similar? also the article states purchase of 18 L-410 Czech transport I thought Russia was focused on Russia produced equipment thought this was a bit risky especially all these sanctions being implemented.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html
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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:25 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:Sorry if this has been mentioned before.
    does anyone know why Russia is purchasing 35 Diamond DA42 Twin Star trainers from Austria?  doesn't Russia have anything similar?  also the article states purchase of 18 L-410 Czech transport I thought Russia was focused on Russia produced equipment thought this was a bit risky especially all these sanctions being implemented.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html

    Article says that they were purchased as trainers for military transport aviation cadets
    FSB also purchased 2 DA-42M-NGs fitted with reconnaissance equipment
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    Post  franco on Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:08 am

    Also that they being manufactured in Russia now.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:01 pm

    Is there any plans for a Russian replacement of the highly successful An-2??? The aircraft was successful both military and civilian service. I know some upgrades were done and antonov wanted to produce a similar aircraft but with Russian and ukrainian bad relationship no purchase or sale would be made. An-2 still have plenty of life (younger versions) but won't be in service forever
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    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:31 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:Is there any plans for a Russian replacement of the highly successful An-2??? The aircraft was successful both military and civilian service. I know some upgrades were done and antonov wanted to produce a similar aircraft but with Russian and ukrainian bad relationship no purchase or sale would be made. An-2 still have plenty of life (younger versions) but won't be in service forever

    they presented this at MAKS-2017. TVS-2DTS



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    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:21 am

    George1 wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:Is there any plans for a Russian replacement of the highly successful An-2??? The aircraft was successful both military and civilian service. I know some upgrades were done and antonov wanted to produce a similar aircraft but with Russian and ukrainian bad relationship no purchase or sale would be made. An-2 still have plenty of life (younger versions) but won't be in service forever

    they presented this at MAKS-2017. TVS-2DTS





    I had heard of plans but didn't see anything but isn't this aircraft for a specific civilian role? Or will it be used as military and other roles? Honeywell engine I would imagine russian military would use something russian built engine
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:47 am

    New sanctions pretty much stop all exports from US to Russia, so I suspect unless they have local production then they will really need a Russian engine...

    The An-2 is an amazing plane and this new model seems to be even better... the problem is that they have been showing aircraft to replace the An-2 for 40+ years now and nothing has managed to replace it... normally cost is the issue.

    What would really boost civilian sales would be a military contract to subsidise production and to Russianise it with all Russian engine, prop, and avionics...

    My understanding is the upgrade was done by a Siberian company, so it should handle the cold weather... which is critical.

    I remember reading an article filled with butthurt... it was by a Ukrainian who was upset that the Ukraine didn't make a similar upgrade of their own aircraft to sell on the international market... salty tears...

    He wasn't anti Russian, but he wanted better for the Ukraine, which I can understand.

    From what I have read it is lighter but able to operate at higher weights over greater ranges with heavier payloads...

    I just wish they would adopt a simpler designation... Sib-2 or something.

    In a free market, this would sell very well in Alaska and Canada and many nordic countries as well as Russia.

    It would probably also sell rather well in the Pacific Islands in a float plane model...
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    Post  eehnie on Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:25 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:I had heard of plans but didn't see anything but isn't this aircraft for a specific civilian role? Or will it be used as military and other roles? Honeywell engine I would imagine russian military would use something russian built engine

    The orders of An-2 after 1970 were minimal. The Russian Armed Forces keep like 3 active and 4 reserve aircrafts produced after 1970. The production of An-2 between 1971 and 1991 was almost totally for civilian purposes and export.

    Many designs wanted to be the successor of the An-2, but failed both for military and civil purposes. The concept is outdated.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:38 am

    eehnie wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:I had heard of plans but didn't see anything but isn't this aircraft for a specific civilian role? Or will it be used as military and other roles? Honeywell engine I would imagine russian military would use something russian built engine

    The orders of An-2 after 1970 were minimal. The Russian Armed Forces keep like 3 active and 4 reserve aircrafts produced after 1970. The production of An-2 between 1971 and 1991 was almost totally for civilian purposes and export.

    Many designs wanted to be the successor of the An-2, but failed both for military and civil purposes. The concept is outdated.


    I disagree on the comment on out dated that would totally depend on what you wanted to use it for the An-2 was used in many roles. And not many planes have such a low stalling speed. I remember reading that the soviets use to fly low and slow and troops would jump out into snow drifts (no parachute) this the officer who was being interviewed stated this was only possible without causing injury due to the low stalling speed of around 30mph which is very low he even stated that they could turn the engine off and glide the plane into landing from slow speeds which would reduce noise when landing special forces also has a very short take off and landing distance of about 170m take off and around 200m landing. All pretty impressive if you want to landing special forces or even as a civilian aircraft operating in small rough airfields etc. In fact north Korean doctrine for its special forces was to use many An-2 to deliver troops via parachute and landing they even went to the extent of replacing parts of the plane with wood to reduce radar signature loool. So I believe that they still have role and they could also be used to drop off personnel supplies or paradrop supplies into hard to reach outposts
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    Post  eehnie on Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:40 am

    For military purposes the An-2 has too low service ceiling. 4500m means the aircraft can not fly avoiding manpads.
    In the role of transport aircraft, the An-2 and the current aircrafts of its size cathegory lack the payload necessary to be useful today.
    In the role of airliner aircraft, the An-2 lacks the capacity to make its use profitable today.
    In overall terms this concept is outdated today.

    All it is reflected in the low number of orders of the successors of the An-2 in the last decades.

    Of course the units in service still are used, but in the refered to the Russian Armed Forces very likely are under exhaustion in the mid-term and will not have replacement with aircrafts of its size cathegory. In this aircraft cathegory helicopters dominate.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:39 pm

    eehnie wrote:For military purposes the An-2 has too low service ceiling. 4500m means the aircraft can not fly avoiding manpads.
    In the role of transport aircraft, the An-2 and the current aircrafts of its size cathegory lack the payload necessary to be useful today.
    In the role of airliner aircraft, the An-2 lacks the capacity to make its use profitable today.
    In overall terms this concept is outdated today.

    All it is reflected in the low number of orders of the successors of the An-2 in the last decades.

    Of course the units in service still are used, but in the refered to the Russian Armed Forces very likely are under exhaustion in the mid-term and will not have replacement with aircrafts of its size cathegory. In this aircraft cathegory helicopters dominate.


    Yet again your argument fails to see that it all depends on requirements to say it's ceiling height capacity of payload and passengers. In fact no helicopters such as ansat mi-17 ka-60 can beat upgraded An-2 in range and if you look at what is being touted as replacement no helicopter comes even close. As for ceiling height you wouldn't be flying it within range of manpads unless you're mad. Just like you wouldn't fly an Il-76 within range of enemy air defence.

    But obviously Rostec don't share the same views as you. February this year they stated that the TVS 2DTS a direct replacement for the An-2 has not only been signed off by them but various Russian ministries and Russian helicopter holding company so even they see the need for a replacement. The An-2 long service history proves just how useful it is since 1947. And reason for lack of sales for such newer aircraft is that there hasn't been any serious development of such an aircraft to spur sales in til now. The TVS 2DTS is an all weather all composite aircraft requiring no real runway and has a cruising speed of 350km/h (much faster than cruising speed of q helicopter) carry 3.5tons and a range of 4,500km (greater than any helicopter) the company has stated manufacturing facilities will built by 2019 and 2021-2025 200 are to be built. Yet you believe this sort of aircraft to be useless hmmmmmmm.

    If there's a need to transport troops or supplies in smaller quantities to a rugged area or very small runway over a fairly medium range when a helicopter doesn't have the range and using a il-76 would be a waste of money carrying a smaller payload or a runway to small to handle a il-76 that is exactly where this type of aircraft fits in. And I have no doubt Russian military will purchase some of these parachute training to transport of supplies passengers and medical evac.


    https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-to-launch-manufacturing-of-tvs-2dts-light-aircraft/
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:16 pm

    eehnie wrote:For military purposes the An-2 has too low service ceiling. 4500m means the aircraft can not fly avoiding manpads.
    In the role of transport aircraft, the An-2 and the current aircrafts of its size cathegory lack the payload necessary to be useful today.
    In the role of airliner aircraft, the An-2 lacks the capacity to make its use profitable today.
    In overall terms this concept is outdated today.

    All it is reflected in the low number of orders of the successors of the An-2 in the last decades.

    Of course the units in service still are used, but in the refered to the Russian Armed Forces very likely are under exhaustion in the mid-term and will not have replacement with aircrafts of its size cathegory. In this aircraft cathegory helicopters dominate.

    It is only $1.5m per unit, that is the selling point. There are many countries that cannot afford more but still need this capability.
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    Post  eehnie on Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:19 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    eehnie wrote:For military purposes the An-2 has too low service ceiling. 4500m means the aircraft can not fly avoiding manpads.
    In the role of transport aircraft, the An-2 and the current aircrafts of its size cathegory lack the payload necessary to be useful today.
    In the role of airliner aircraft, the An-2 lacks the capacity to make its use profitable today.
    In overall terms this concept is outdated today.

    All it is reflected in the low number of orders of the successors of the An-2 in the last decades.

    Of course the units in service still are used, but in the refered to the Russian Armed Forces very likely are under exhaustion in the mid-term and will not have replacement with aircrafts of its size cathegory. In this aircraft cathegory helicopters dominate.


    Yet again your argument fails to see that it all depends on requirements to say it's ceiling height capacity of payload and passengers. In fact no helicopters such as ansat mi-17 ka-60 can beat upgraded An-2 in range and if you look at what is being touted as replacement no helicopter comes even close. As for ceiling height you wouldn't be flying it within range of manpads unless you're mad. Just like you wouldn't fly an Il-76 within range of enemy air defence.

    But obviously Rostec don't share the same views as you. February this year they stated that the TVS 2DTS a direct replacement for the An-2 has not only been signed off by them but various Russian ministries and Russian helicopter holding company so even they see the need for a replacement. The An-2 long service history proves just how useful it is since 1947. And reason for lack of sales for such newer aircraft is that there hasn't been any serious development of such an aircraft to spur sales in til now. The TVS 2DTS is an all weather all composite aircraft requiring no real runway and has a cruising speed of 350km/h  (much faster than cruising speed of q helicopter) carry 3.5tons and a range of 4,500km  (greater than any helicopter) the company has stated manufacturing facilities will built by 2019 and 2021-2025 200 are to be built. Yet you believe this sort of aircraft to be useless hmmmmmmm.

    If there's a need to transport troops or supplies in smaller quantities to a rugged area or very small runway over a fairly medium range when a helicopter doesn't have the range and using a il-76 would be a waste of money carrying a smaller payload or a runway to small to handle a il-76 that is exactly where this type of aircraft fits in. And I have no doubt Russian military will purchase some of these parachute training to transport of supplies passengers and medical evac.


    https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-to-launch-manufacturing-of-tvs-2dts-light-aircraft/

    The range of the An-2 like in all the rest of the aircrafts is related to the payload. Longer fly, smaller payload, until a point that is not useful except for the transport of the pilot and little more.

    You may think this new bid is the first bid to create a successor of the An-2. But the list is long, and you can check the success of the previous bids of the last decades:

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t4312p75-russian-transport-aircraft-fleet-vta#189143

    11th cathegory Transport aircraft: T-101/130/210 http://www.airwar.ru/enc/craft/t101.html http://www.airwar.ru/enc/la/t130.html http://www.airwar.ru/enc/la/t210.html
    11th cathegory Transport aircraft: T-207 http://www.airwar.ru/enc/la/t207.html
    11th cathegory Airliner aircraft: M-102 http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aliner/m102.html
    11th cathegory Airliner aircraft: Rysachok http://russianplanes.net/planelist/Technoavia/Rysachyok
    11th cathegory Airliner aircraft: MiG-125 http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aliner/mig125.html
    11th cathegory Transport aircraft: T-115 Niva http://www.airwar.ru/enc/la/t115.html
    11th cathegory Airliner aircraft: T-440 http://www.airwar.ru/enc/la/t440.html

    They are not synonim of success.
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    Post  eehnie on Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:41 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    eehnie wrote:For military purposes the An-2 has too low service ceiling. 4500m means the aircraft can not fly avoiding manpads.
    In the role of transport aircraft, the An-2 and the current aircrafts of its size cathegory lack the payload necessary to be useful today.
    In the role of airliner aircraft, the An-2 lacks the capacity to make its use profitable today.
    In overall terms this concept is outdated today.

    All it is reflected in the low number of orders of the successors of the An-2 in the last decades.

    Of course the units in service still are used, but in the refered to the Russian Armed Forces very likely are under exhaustion in the mid-term and will not have replacement with aircrafts of its size cathegory. In this aircraft cathegory helicopters dominate.

    It is only $1.5m per unit, that is the selling point.  There are many countries that cannot afford more but still need this capability.  

    Taking into account the size of most of the countries, they are not tempted by the opton of longer range with really minimal payload.

    These countries tend to order helicopters. Russia prepared a good range of models to offer in the size cathegories around the size of the An-2:

    Ka-27 + Mi-8 families
    Ka-60/62
    Mi-Ansat
    Ka-226

    All them more successful than the aircrafts of the list of my previous comment, or with better prospect (in the case of the Ka-60/62
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:01 am

    eehnie wrote:

    Taking into account the size of most of the countries, they are not tempted by the opton of longer range with really minimal payload.

    These countries tend to order helicopters. Russia prepared a good range of models to offer in the size cathegories around the size of the An-2:

    Ka-27 + Mi-8 families
    Ka-60/62
    Mi-Ansat
    Ka-226

    All them more successful than the aircrafts of the list of my previous comment, or with better prospect (in the case of the Ka-60/62

    The An-2 stopped production in 2001 with over 18,000 units produced.

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