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    Viktor

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    Re: Russian ΙΑDS Command and Control Systems

    Post  Viktor on Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:36 pm

    Well this settles all ... the vehicle in question is highly modernized PU12M7  build specialy with UAV/UCAV in mind



    Due to the wide spread of the UAV task was to deal with them. Therefore, serial battery command post control group PU12M7 combat vehicles "Strela-10", ZSU-23, "Tunguska", "Thor", MANPADS was decided to adapt to deal with the UAV and its work in this new capacity

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    Re: Russian ΙΑDS Command and Control Systems

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:49 pm

    Viktor wrote:Well this settles all ... the vehicle in question is highly modernized PU12M7  build specialy with UAV/UCAV in mind



    Due to the wide spread of the UAV task was to deal with them. Therefore, serial battery command post control group PU12M7 combat vehicles "Strela-10", ZSU-23, "Tunguska", "Thor", MANPADS was decided to adapt to deal with the UAV and its work in this new capacity

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    Looks interesting, but in all likeness that version of the complex probably won't be built, however the version of the complex built on the Boomerang, Kurganets, Typhoon, and Armata vehicle platforms will probably be built in serious numbers!  Very Happy
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    Re: Russian ΙΑDS Command and Control Systems

    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:43 pm

    Actually the old BTR design should stay in production for some time and it will likely be lighter than boomerang (12-14 tons vs 25+ for boomerang).

    This would likely make it cheaper to operate and heavier armour might not be that much use for such a vehicle.

    If it is operated as separate units attached to brigades and divisions when needed then vehicle chassis commonality might not be so critical.

    Interesting looking vehicle.


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    Re: Russian ΙΑDS Command and Control Systems

    Post  Viktor on Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:25 pm

    Acacia being offered for export is a powerful weapon to any army in the world as we are talking about mighty command post.

    CMO introduced a system of command and control "Acacia-E" at Airshow China 2014 exhibition
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    Distributed AD network...?

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:24 am

    This thread is not really about Russia, I really did not know where to post it, there are no subforums for general military discussion.

    I am not an AD expert and I wonder - is it possible to create an air defence network that is decentralized so much that it is not possible to render it useless by destroying just a few key assets? During the Gulf War the entire Iraqi AD system was virtually decapitated during the 1st day of the operation and the critical part was a raid of a handful of AH-64s .
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    Re: Russian ΙΑDS Command and Control Systems

    Post  Viktor on Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:58 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:This thread is not really about Russia, I really did not know where to post it, there are no subforums for general military discussion.

    I am not an AD expert and I wonder - is it possible to create an air defence network that is decentralized so much that it is not possible to render it useless by destroying just a few key assets? During the Gulf War the entire Iraqi AD system was virtually decapitated during the 1st day of the operation and the critical part was a raid of a handful of AH-64s .

    Yes it is possible. Problem with Iraq was that its AD netwoork was to oriented towards Iran and not the planned vectors of US invasion. Furthermore it was centralized with

    5 fixed command posts with known locations and once you bombard those the whole netwoork ceased to exist. That was a French Kari AD netwoork with higly limited capability.

    Russian made AD netwoorks are organized in a manner that even if some of the key AD aspects are destroyed the netwoork itself recalibrates to a next most optimum solution

    momentarely and keeps on firing Very Happy

    Here is an example of Russian Army PVO command post integration (all mobile).

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    Russia will receive three Polyana-D4M1 command and control systems in November

    Post  Benya on Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:43 pm

    Nice thumbsup


    Russia will receive three Polyana-D4M1 command and control systems in November

    Russia’s Defense Ministry will receive three Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade automated command and control systems in November, CEO of the Radio Plant in Penza in the Volga area Oleg Ratnikov said.


    The Polyana-D4M1 ACCS
    (Credit: Rosoboronexport)

    The Radio Plant is the producer of the Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade Automated Command and Control System (ACCS).

    "Two Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade automated command and control systems have been manufactured by the plant, accepted by the Defense Ministry and dispatched to units," Ratnikov said on the single military hardware acceptance day.

    "The third system has been produced and then accepted by Defense Ministry representatives. The system is planned to be dispatched on November 3, 2016," he added.

    According to the CEO, the system is designed for effective command and control of an air defense missile brigade or a composite air defense force operating the S-300 (NATO reporting name: SA-10 Grumble) and Buk (SA-17 Grizzly) surface-to-air missile systems.

    "The system can simultaneously track up to 255 aerial targets at a visibility distance of 6,000 kilometers (3,728 miles)," Ratnikov said.

    The 9S52M1 Polyana-D4M1 air defence brigade (mixed grouping) automated command and control system is designed to provide automated control of separate air defence missile systems, and their ombinations, making up air defence grouping, with the S-300, Buk, Tor AD missile systems and Tunguska gun-missile systems, via relevant command and control posts.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/october_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/russia_will_receive_three_polyana-d4m1_command_and_control_systems_in_november_72710161.html
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    The Polyana-D4M1 ACCS

    Post  Viktor on Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:43 pm

    Benya wrote:Nice thumbsup


    Russia will receive three Polyana-D4M1 command and control systems in November

    Russia’s Defense Ministry will receive three Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade automated command and control systems in November, CEO of the Radio Plant in Penza in the Volga area Oleg Ratnikov said.


    The Polyana-D4M1 ACCS
    (Credit: Rosoboronexport)

    The Radio Plant is the producer of the Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade Automated Command and Control System (ACCS).

    "Two Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade automated command and control systems have been manufactured by the plant, accepted by the Defense Ministry and dispatched to units," Ratnikov said on the single military hardware acceptance day.

    "The third system has been produced and then accepted by Defense Ministry representatives. The system is planned to be dispatched on November 3, 2016," he added.

    According to the CEO, the system is designed for effective command and control of an air defense missile brigade or a composite air defense force operating the S-300 (NATO reporting name: SA-10 Grumble) and Buk (SA-17 Grizzly) surface-to-air missile systems.

    "The system can simultaneously track up to 255 aerial targets at a visibility distance of 6,000 kilometers (3,728 miles)," Ratnikov said.

    The 9S52M1 Polyana-D4M1 air defence brigade (mixed grouping) automated command and control system is designed to provide automated control of separate air defence missile systems, and their ombinations, making up air defence grouping, with the S-300, Buk, Tor AD missile systems and Tunguska gun-missile systems, via relevant command and control posts.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/october_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/russia_will_receive_three_polyana-d4m1_command_and_control_systems_in_november_72710161.html


    Its a Brigade lvl command post (basically it is a Baikal-M under the hood and thats great) - as was earlier said that 3 new S-300V3 brigades have entered service.

    Its interesting to note that Algerians have bought Akacija command posts.

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    Αirborne Command Post

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:20 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    Benya wrote:Nice thumbsup


    Russia will receive three Polyana-D4M1 command and control systems in November

    Russia’s Defense Ministry will receive three Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade automated command and control systems in November, CEO of the Radio Plant in Penza in the Volga area Oleg Ratnikov said.


    The Polyana-D4M1 ACCS
    (Credit: Rosoboronexport)

    The Radio Plant is the producer of the Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade Automated Command and Control System (ACCS).

    "Two Polyana-D4M1 air defense missile brigade automated command and control systems have been manufactured by the plant, accepted by the Defense Ministry and dispatched to units," Ratnikov said on the single military hardware acceptance day.

    "The third system has been produced and then accepted by Defense Ministry representatives. The system is planned to be dispatched on November 3, 2016," he added.

    According to the CEO, the system is designed for effective command and control of an air defense missile brigade or a composite air defense force operating the S-300 (NATO reporting name: SA-10 Grumble) and Buk (SA-17 Grizzly) surface-to-air missile systems.

    "The system can simultaneously track up to 255 aerial targets at a visibility distance of 6,000 kilometers (3,728 miles)," Ratnikov said.

    The 9S52M1 Polyana-D4M1 air defence brigade (mixed grouping) automated command and control system is designed to provide automated control of separate air defence missile systems, and their ombinations, making up air defence grouping, with the S-300, Buk, Tor AD missile systems and Tunguska gun-missile systems, via relevant command and control posts.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/october_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/russia_will_receive_three_polyana-d4m1_command_and_control_systems_in_november_72710161.html


    Its a Brigade lvl command post (basically it is a Baikal-M under the hood and thats great) - as was earlier said that 3 new S-300V3 brigades have entered service.

    Its interesting to note that Algerians have bought Akacija command posts.


    They seem to have formed one of these Air Defense Command and Control units per each Ground Forces Combined Arms Armies. They don't control other units, until they are assigned, to cover the Air Zone that the CAA is operating in. Would expect that the PVO Air Defense Divisions (formerly brigades) would also have the same or similar Command and Control units.

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