Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

Someone joked that they are being paid by the hour

Tell me it was a British person... the Russian Navy would love that irony...

Russia is so far ahead in the Arctic that that ship isn´t such a high priority.
The 2 ships for the coast guard will propably be build much faster than this one.

A few years ago the BBC made a documentary about "evil Russkies doing bad things in the Arctic" and the "battle for the Arctic between evil Russkies
and western saints", moving along a norwegian scientific expedition... on board a rented russian icebreaker. 

The main reason I think a british person claiming the Russian MIC is on a go slow is because the Russian Navy had its first experience of international travel with a chap called Thaddeus Von Bellingshausen (sorry for spelling). These days he would be called a Baltic explorer but then he was Russian and was really the first Russian sailor to sail around the place. He was the first human being to spot the antarctic ice shelf though he didn't realise what it was at that time.

For his first voyage he was given the job of writing the manual for Russian sailors to sail outside Russian waters and one of the first major notes he made was when he arrived in great britain for repairs he noted that it is important to pay for the jobs being done rather than paying for an hourly rate because paying for an hourly rate meant the locals went on a go slow to earn as much money for the job as they possibly could.

Paying for a job instead of an hourly rate was ingrained into the Russian Navy on its first decent round the world trip by the money grabbing British.

IVAN PAPANIN is ready. It is getting demagnetized.
Photo from today:


NIKOLAI ZUBOV is 40% complete. Hull is almost complete and diesels installed.
This photo is 3 months old:

IVAN PAPANIN photographed today.
The last scaffolding around the mast has been removed and more degaussing cables have been placed.

Fully wrapped.

Today:

Another useless garbage and again wasted money.
And again, there is no anti-submarine component and no air defense system.
Is a country with a little less than 150 million inhabitants able to build a navy or not. It seems not.
It is not the SMO's problem at all, but the SMO is just an excuse for the complete incompetence of Russian shipbuilding.


It is better for the Russians to remain silent until they reach the level of launching one frigate and one SSGN submarine in one year, as well as commissioning one frigate and one SSGN submarine in the same year. Shame, fucking shame.
Until then, they only deserved to be laughed at and until then they don't have a navy.

Compare it with similar ships being operated by Canada (Harry DeWolf class) or Norway (Svalbard class). This is much more well equipped.

I would also prefer if it had better air defense. But this is meant to operate in the Arctic in the first place. The threat environment is totally different.

Can be equipped with Tor at the back.

Second unit for the Coast Guard laid down in Vuborg shipyard.
Name is Dzhezhinsky.

So, we have now:

- 2 units for the Navy: Ivan Papanin and Nikolai Zubov
- 2 units for the Coast Guard: Purga and Dzerzhinsky

That 2nd image doesn't appear to be a Pr 23550? Too many design differences...

Maybe an early artists conception?

Having a lack of anti sub in the artic makes sense to a point, however why it has no dedicated AD is a real weird thing, Its not a small ship, it should have AD always present.

One plane can pretty much **** up its day.

I know people will go "it has two ciws" but ciws are the very very last ditch effort, you do not want to rely on those

ALAMO wrote:It is a COSTAL GUARD ship, you hopeless case.
With ice-breaking cap on pair with your pathetic entire fleet of 60 y/o crap.
And can carry Calibres
It is like beating a 12 y/o.
Why do you even consider opening your mouth, if you do have not a second chance of standing?!?

It is an 8k ton ship when fully loaded that isn't a small ship by any means, the better question is what are you such a twit?

It will not be protected 24/7 by coastal assists and with only two ciws it's a sitting duck.

If it was a small Corvette sure but this isn't a small Corvette this is a ship with larger tonnage then a frigate

It is a patrol boat that manages fisheries and border issues, having two gatling guns and a main deck gun and probably MANPADS is plenty.

Check the weapons equipment of these ship's opponents in Canada and Norway. They are even worse armed.
The US doesn't even have an equivalent since they suck at building icebreakers.

@Seig Heil

Compare it to any medium to large OPV's and Coast Guard ships around the world and see what you get.

Currently the largest US Coast Guard ship is the Healy icebreaker - at 16 000 tons and it has no armament whatsoever
The next gen US icebreaker Polar-2 will have a 22 000 ton displacement armed with 2x30mm guns and some M2 HMG's.

Why do you even consider opening your mouth, if you do have not a second chance of standing?!?

Masochism

The next gen US icebreaker Polar-2

Will cost more as the Lider class.