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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:25 pm


    Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship Ivan Papanin has been laid down in St. Petersburg thumbsup

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    Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:12 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship Ivan Papanin has been laid down in St. Petersburg thumbsup

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/

    The laying down ceremony happened one day earlier than scheduled.
    Second ship of the project 23550 class will be named: Nikolai Zubov.

    The ships specifications:

    Displacement  : 8500 tons
    Overall length : 110 m  
    Overall width  : 20 m
    Draught         : 6 m

    Maximum speed: 16 knots
    Max ice thickness: 1.5 m
    Autonomy        : 60 days

    Armament       :
    One 76 mm AK176MA main gun
    Two 14.5 mm machine guns
    Hangar for : helicopter and UAVs  
    Hangar for :2 RAPTOR class attack boats or 2 quad containers for KALIBR missiles

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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:41 am

    The head icebreaking patrol ship "Ivan Papanin" project 23550

    April 19, 2017 at the JSC "Admiralteyskie Verfi" (the enterprise is part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) in St. Petersburg, the ceremony of laying the head of the multi functional patrol ship of the ice class "Ivan Papanin" project 23550 (code "Arctic") for the Russian Navy, The serial number is 02460.

    The solemn event was attended by the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Admiral Vladimir Korolev, Deputy General Director of Admiralty Shipyards Andrey Bystrov.

    "Today we are present at a momentous event - the laying of the newest patrol ship of the ice class," Andrei Bystrov addressed the participants of the solemn ceremony. - Admiralty shipyards have always been a platform for the construction of high-tech science-intensive ships of a new type, and today's laying is a clear continuation of this tradition. We have no doubt that the new ship "Ivan Papanin" will be built in contract terms and with high quality. "

    An important event in the history of the Navy and military shipbuilding was named by the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy Admiral Vladimir Korolev: "This is a unique, multi-functional ship that is very necessary for the fleet. This year marks exactly 80 years with the organization of the first drifting station "North Pole", and the construction of a new patrol ship of the ice class will undoubtedly become a new stage in this direction. And we are sure that shipbuilders of the glorified Admiralty shipyards will once again successfully solve all the tasks set. "

    The universal patrol ship of the ice class of the project 23550 Ivan Papanin, designed by the Almaz Central Design Bureau (part of the USC), will combine the functionality of the tug, patrol ship and icebreaker capable of overcoming ice up to 1.5m thick. The project refers to promising developments in the interests of the Navy .

    The contract for the construction of a series of two patrol icebreakers was signed on April 25, 2016, the construction of the main ship began in September 2016. The head patrol ship of the ice class "Ivan Papanin" will be transferred to the Russian Navy after 2020.

    The ship is designed to protect and monitor Arctic water resources; Convoying and towing to the port of detained vessels; Support and support of supply vessels; Participation in rescue operations; Transportation of special cargoes. A new multifunctional vessel is capable of effectively performing tasks in the Arctic zone both independently and as a part of groupings (detachments) of warships, and also to carry out escort functions on Arctic communications. In addition, Ivan Papanin has the necessary weapons for artillery strikes against sea, coastal and air targets.









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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:08 am

    The question remains will Russia build more of this class then two?. I mean if they really wanna hold the most of the artic they will need more then two of these things.
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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:00 pm


    confused

    Look at this. UKSK containers stacked, 4 in total. How does it work anyway?

    Also there seems to be door behind them leading under helipad.


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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:37 am

    I am guessing after the top two have fired their missiles they are jettisoned off the rear and then next two can be fired, or perhaps they empty containers are lifted onto the helo deck while the next ones are fired and when all are fired they are returned to the rear area for transport home and reloading.

    The location of that crane to the side appears to suggest over the side, if it can reach the further away container then it should be able to lift it up and backwards onto the helo deck... it is clearly designed to get containers from along side and presumably return them there when empty.


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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:52 am

    GarryB wrote:I am guessing after the top two have fired their missiles they are jettisoned off the rear and then next two can be fired, or perhaps they empty containers are lifted onto the helo deck while the next ones are fired and when all are fired they are returned to the rear area for transport home and reloading.

    The location of that crane to the side appears to suggest over the side, if it can reach the further away container then it should be able to lift it up and backwards onto the helo deck... it is clearly designed to get containers from along side and presumably return them there when empty.

    I dunno, seems wasteful and slow. Those containers are more complex than they look.

    And there seems to be enough space to just put all 4 next to each other.
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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  hoom on Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:12 am

    The container carrying is probably intended for more than just Kalibr, like for running supplies to Russian Arctic bases -> stacked = more supplies.
    But containerised Kalibr does need more than just 2 containers, I think you need at least one control container.
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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:50 am

    There is a crane on the side, maybe the empty container can be wasted into the ocean.
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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:06 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:There is a crane on the side, maybe the empty container can be wasted into the ocean.

    Still those containers are not really cheap. Dumping them into the ocean is ineffective and slow.

    I think Hoom is right, this is probably supply setup.
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    Re: Project 23550 Arctic patrol ship

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:07 am

    Still those containers are not really cheap. Dumping them into the ocean is ineffective and slow.

    It would also be a shipping hazard... lots of ships lose shipping crates every year in storms and many other ships are damaged running into semi submerged crates...

    I would say loading the top ones with ready to fire missiles and the lower crates with other things... would be odd... are you on an attack/strike mission or a resupply mission?

    I suspect more likely that when used for missile strikes only two crates are carried or more are carried side by side in one layer. When used for supporting operations crates can be stacked to allow more equipment/supplies to be carried.

    Of course all four crates could carry missiles... they might be intended to be layed in the sea to launch missiles on command like a mine, or they could be delivered to a port and taken inland by truck to launch their missiles.

    Or they might just be transport containers... very sneaky.


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