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    Post  Hole on Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:46 pm

    The Yak-141 had an R79-300 engine.
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    Post  LMFS on Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:27 pm

    Hole wrote:The Yak-141 had an R79-300 engine.
    Yeah, the gas generator should be based on the R79-300 but this is apparently a high bypass ratio engine for transport planes... do not find anything related to this new version on the web, apart from that news dunno
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    Post  Hole on Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:27 am

    Because it is new? Wink
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    Post  LMFS on Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:52 am

    Hole wrote:Because it is new? Wink
    Yeah, that may make sense Laughing
    Normally there are announcements that a new engine is going to be developed, or that a certain manufacturer is working on some prototype, rather than a new engine even with name appearing out of the blue, but we will see. It would be great to have one option for re-engining of the An-124, this new engine would be the right size.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:37 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    Hole wrote:The Yak-141 had an R79-300 engine.
    Yeah, the gas generator should be based on the R79-300 but this is apparently a high bypass ratio engine for transport planes... do not find anything related to this new version on the web, apart from that news dunno

    BTW Р179В-300  or if you prefer R179V-300 was offered as one of contenders for PAK FA, lot to AL-41F, heh MiG again fucked up with ALF for years to come.


    As an alternative to the AL-41F, the R179-300 engine was designed with a 20 ton capacity developed by the Moscow-based Aviamotor Scientific-Technical Complex Soyuz. This engine was the development of the R-79V-300 engine designed for the Yak-141 supersonic fighter The R179-300 engine allowed a specific thrust level of 0.085. According to the information of the Soyuz ATC, the technical level of this engine corresponded to the 4+ generation, and the fifth air force chose the AL-41F for binding to the board. with italos that it can be quickly brought to airworthiness.


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    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:56 pm

    More about the trip of the Minister of Defense of Russia to aviation plants in Irkutsk and Kazan

    The newspaper Kommersant in the article by Alexandra Djordjevic and Ivan Safronov "Military Aviation promised a quick fix. Sergei Shoigu checked how things are going with the repair of the aircraft" reports on the results of the trip of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu on January 30, 2019 to aircraft factories in Irkutsk and Kazan

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    On Wednesday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu inspected two aircraft factories in Irkutsk and Kazan at once, familiarizing himself with the production capacities of enterprises, and then held a meeting on maintaining the operability of equipment operated in aerospace forces. As it became known to “Kommersant”, the most difficult situation was in the long-range and military transport aviation, where the serviceability of aircraft was at the level of 60%. Aircraft manufacturers expect to improve the situation in the near future. According to Kommersant’s data, in 2019 they plan to transfer eight Il-76MD-90A transport vehicles to the military, and by 2021 the first of ten contracted serial strategic missile-carriers Tu-160M2.

    Sergei Shoigu flew to Irkutsk from Krasnoyarsk: on the eve he visited the Krasmash factory, which produces liquid intercontinental ballistic missiles (see “Kommersant” on January 30). In Irkutsk, representatives of the aviation industry, who had examined the workshops of the Irkutsk Aviation Plant (IAP) with it, were already waiting for him. The military delegation was shown a modernized Su-30SM fighter: since 2012, more than a hundred aircraft of this type have been delivered to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and naval aviation.

    According to "Kommersant", in the state program of armament for the years 2018-2027 is the supply of at least 60 such aircraft.

    Mr. Shoigu also inspected the fighters, which are made to the order of the member countries of the Collective Security Treaty Organization. Most of the Su-30SM were acquired by the armed forces of Kazakhstan - 12 aircraft are already on the 604th air base of the country’s air force in Taldykorgan, 12 more are planned to be delivered in 2019-2020. In total, according to unofficial information, the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan plans to acquire up to 36 Su-30SM aircraft. In the same year, it is planned to deliver the first batch of four Su-30SM for the Ministry of Defense of Belarus: they will replace the outdated MiG-29.

    The plant said that the modernization of the Su-30SM, which is being carried out in conjunction with the Sukhoi Design Bureau, means increasing the combat capabilities of the vehicles: the range of detection and identification of air targets will increase, new high-precision means of hitting targets will appear at a greater distance. According to Andrei Balchugov, head of the assembly and testing facility at IAZ, one of the main goals in 2019, in addition to the timely delivery of machines to customers, will be the modernization of Su-30 aircraft, import substitution and overhaul of machines. “At the moment we are finishing work on the complete replacement of imports and are switching to our Russian counterparts,” he said. According to "Kommersant", it is, in particular, the replacement of individual elements of the onboard equipment of the Su-30SM, produced by the French company Thales. “Completion for us is not a new business, there are no big difficulties, just time, that's all,” said Mr. Balchugov. “But our factory has never been engaged in overhaul, but since we manufacture airplanes, we can repair them more correctly here.”

    He was examined by the Minister and the production of Yak-130 combat training aircraft: about a hundred of these machines are used in training centers of the Ministry of Defense, and several dozen more will be purchased in the coming years. IAZ does not experience a shortage of orders for this car: in recent years Bangladesh, Myanmar, Belarus and even Laos have acquired the Yak-130 (in December 2018, four such machines were delivered there). According to Kommersant’s information, Uzbekistan is also interested in the Yak-130, but negotiations are at an early stage. In the process of bypassing the workshops, Mr. Shoigu asked the aircraft manufacturers to pay special attention to maintaining the life cycle of combat and especially combat aviation, explaining that with the need to annually release more than 1,300 young pilots from educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense.

    After Irkutsk, the plane of Mr. Shoigu flew to Kazan, where he was met not only by the aircraft manufacturers, but also by the President of Tatarstan Rustam Minnikhanov. Kazan Aircraft Manufacturing Plant (KAZ) is engaged in the repair and modernization of strategic aviation aircraft (for example, the Tu-95 and Tu-160), and also recreates the production of the Tu-160M2 missile carriers. Opening the meeting on ensuring the serviceability of the VKS equipment, the minister said that the first such serial bomber (there were ten of them in total) should go to the troops in 2021. “Work on the reproduction of the Tu-160M ​​in a new look is carried out in accordance with the schedule,” he added.

    According to "Kommersant", in the closed part of the meeting were raised topics related to the creation and operation of long-range aircraft and military transport aircraft, as there and there the serviceability of the equipment is about 60% (which is the lowest figure).

    And if long-range aviation made most of the decisions (the same KAZ should have already delivered four Tu-160M2s to the troops by 2023), then the situation in the military transport aviation is more complicated. This is due to the fact that the intensity of the operation of equipment has increased (a large number of exercises with the transfer of people and equipment over long distances, the ongoing campaign in Syria), and the programs for the creation and modernization of aircraft are shifted to the right. At the same time, according to Kommersant’s data, aircraft manufacturers will have to hand over eight IL-76MD-90A transport vehicles (in the guise of the Ministry of Defense) to the military this year and carry out the first flight of the IL-112V light transport vehicle in February (it is planned to replace the existing ones An-24 and An-26).

    The helicopters of the Kazan helicopter plant Mi-38T (the first car flew in 2018) and the Mi-8MTV-5 (since 2011, 130 such helicopters were delivered) were also delivered to the territory of KAZ. According to “Kommersant”, this demonstration was held at the request of Mr. Minnikhanov, anxiously related to the loading of republican capacities. According to Kommersant, 14 Mi-8MTV-5s will be delivered to the troops in 2019, and about 20 units in 2020. In 2019, the military also expects to receive two Mi-38Ts.

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    Post  eehnie on Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:01 am

    George1 wrote:Sergei Shoigu flew to Irkutsk from Krasnoyarsk: on the eve he visited the Krasmash factory, which produces liquid intercontinental ballistic missiles (see “Kommersant” on January 30). In Irkutsk, representatives of the aviation industry, who had examined the workshops of the Irkutsk Aviation Plant (IAP) with it, were already waiting for him. The military delegation was shown a modernized Su-30SM fighter: since 2012, more than a hundred aircraft of this type have been delivered to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and naval aviation.

    According to "Kommersant", in the state program of armament for the years 2018-2027 is the supply of at least 60 such aircraft.

    Mr. Shoigu also inspected the fighters, which are made to the order of the member countries of the Collective Security Treaty Organization. Most of the Su-30SM were acquired by the armed forces of Kazakhstan - 12 aircraft are already on the 604th air base of the country’s air force in Taldykorgan, 12 more are planned to be delivered in 2019-2020. In total, according to unofficial information, the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan plans to acquire up to 36 Su-30SM aircraft. In the same year, it is planned to deliver the first batch of four Su-30SM for the Ministry of Defense of Belarus: they will replace the outdated MiG-29.

    The plant said that the modernization of the Su-30SM, which is being carried out in conjunction with the Sukhoi Design Bureau, means increasing the combat capabilities of the vehicles: the range of detection and identification of air targets will increase, new high-precision means of hitting targets will appear at a greater distance. According to Andrei Balchugov, head of the assembly and testing facility at IAZ, one of the main goals in 2019, in addition to the timely delivery of machines to customers, will be the modernization of Su-30 aircraft, import substitution and overhaul of machines. “At the moment we are finishing work on the complete replacement of imports and are switching to our Russian counterparts,” he said. According to "Kommersant", it is, in particular, the replacement of individual elements of the onboard equipment of the Su-30SM, produced by the French company Thales. “Completion for us is not a new business, there are no big difficulties, just time, that's all,” said Mr. Balchugov. “But our factory has never been engaged in overhaul, but since we manufacture airplanes, we can repair them more correctly here.”

    The new contract seems for modernization of existing units, not for the procurement of new units of this variant.

    Right for Russia at this point.


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    Post  ult on Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:30 pm

    eehnie wrote:

    The new contract seems for modernization of existing units, not for the procurement of new units of this variant.

    Right for Russia at this point.


    No, it is not. Stop assuming things.
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    Post  eehnie on Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:14 pm

    ult wrote:
    eehnie wrote:

    The new contract seems for modernization of existing units, not for the procurement of new units of this variant.

    Right for Russia at this point.


    No, it is not. Stop assuming things.

    The time will say it more clearly if you are not reading it now clear enough.

    Then, do not make drama.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:22 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    ult wrote:
    eehnie wrote:

    The new contract seems for modernization of existing units, not for the procurement of new units of this variant.

    Right for Russia at this point.


    No, it is not. Stop assuming things.

    The time will say it more clearly if you are not reading it now clear enough.

    Then, do not make drama.

    You may have to re-read it yourself.

    he is talking about replacement of french parts on existing jets. Not the modernization of the Su-30SM. Modernization of the Su-30SM has more to do with various Russian instruments that needed some adjustments like the Bars-R radar.
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    Post  AMCXXL on Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:00 pm

    ult wrote:
    eehnie wrote:

    The new contract seems for modernization of existing units, not for the procurement of new units of this variant.

    Right for Russia at this point.


    No, it is not. Stop assuming things.


    The "more than 60" spected below the SAP 2018-2027 are new airplanes for complete the replacement of soviet airplanes (Su-24M/MR , Su-27UB...)
    This new airplanes will include the improvements of standard SM-1 , probably since 2020


    The "modernization" of existing units is other thing

    For he moment , the Su.30SM are brand new airplanes, the older ones have six years old and the newest only a few months, therefore , there is no hurry to "modernize" them

    It has been announced that the existing Su-30SM will achieve the SM-1 standard when going through scheduled conventional maintenance / repairs
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    Post  eehnie on Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:15 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    eehnie wrote:The time will say it more clearly if you are not reading it now clear enough.

    Then, do not make drama.

    You may have to re-read it yourself.

    he is talking about replacement of french parts on existing jets.  Not the modernization of the Su-30SM.  Modernization of the Su-30SM has more to do with various Russian instruments that needed some adjustments like the Bars-R radar.

    I re-bolded more clearly the key parts.

    But more important still, the key missing word in these articles is sign
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:33 pm

    Sounds to me like they are eliminating foreign components, which may be an upgrade... it is certainly a critical and important thing to be doing.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:39 am

    Interview of the vice-president of the UAC on military-technical cooperation Ilya Tarasenko


    The Interfax news agency published a rather interesting interview with Ilya Tarasenko, vice president of United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) for military-technical cooperation (MTC), dedicated to the upcoming opening of AeroIndia-2019 aerospace exhibition in Bangaloy (India).

    Does the project of the fifth-generation Russian-Indian fighter have a future, is it worth expecting the appearance of the Su-57 in the foreign market and what Russia is offering to defeat the MiG-35 in the tender for 110 light fighters told Ekaterina Maltseva, Vice-President UAC on MTC Ilya Tarasenko.

    - Ilya Sergeevich, next week AeroIndia-2019 will open in Bangalore - what will the UAC show at this exhibition, which planes cause the greatest interest among partners?

    - UAC will present one of the largest exhibition stands at the AeroIndia exhibition: our key projects in all segments will be presented at it. Today, our Indian partners are showing interest in combat fighters MiG-35, Il-76 and Il-112 transport aircraft, as well as our civilian products, in particular the Il-114 aircraft, which we also present at this exhibition. We note a certain interest in our unique Be-200 amphibian.

    - Any negotiations already scheduled?

    - We are planning to meet with our long-time partners from the government, the Ministry of Defense and the Indian Air Force, during which we will consider a number of issues relating to the status of our joint projects. Meetings with colleagues from other countries in the Asia-Pacific region are also planned.

    - Will you discuss the tender for 110 light fighters, in which the MiG-35 is involved? What stage is the negotiation now?

    - In April 2018, the Indian Ministry of Defense placed RFI (request for information - IF) for the supply of more than 100 aircraft for the Indian Air Force as part of the MMRCA 2.0 tender. In response to a request from the tender committee, an official document was sent from Rosoboronexport for the supply of MiG-35 multifunctional aviation complexes.

    At the moment, our colleagues are evaluating all the proposals we have submitted. In 2019, negotiations between the Russian and Indian sides will continue, including as part of the participation of the MiG corporation in the AeroIndia-2019 exhibition.

    - What proposal does Russia come up with - is it also about after-sales service, pilot training, localization of production, technology transfer? Do you plan to somehow modify the MiG-35 to the wishes of the customer?

    - Since the first tender of the MMRCA, the MiG-35 multipurpose aviation complex has changed dramatically to fully comply with the requirements of the Indian Air Force. At the same time, we are ready not only to supply ready-made aircraft, but also to transfer the necessary technologies and documentation to partner enterprises for the production of these fighters in India.

    In accordance with modern international standards, UAC provides comprehensive services in the field of after-sales service. The new PPO model implies a transition from the provision of scattered services, the provision of specific spare parts to the provision of standardized indicators of the final result: the level of serviceability of the systems, the level of operational reliability of the material part, the total cost of ownership of the weapons and military equipment for the customer, as well as average downtime.

    UAC provides licensed after-sales service for aircraft produced. The modular approach embodied in the software programs allows you to take into account the needs of the customer when drafting the contract.

    In addition, for the implementation of service, we are ready to fully use the customer's infrastructure. This contributes to the creation of new jobs and the involvement of the population in the real economy.

    - What other countries are negotiating the supply of the MiG-35?

    - Today, MiG aircraft complexes are operated in more than 50 countries around the world. We are promoting the export of a deeply modernized M / M2 aviation complex in the M / M2 version, and we are also working to promote the MiG-35. There is interest in these aircraft from the countries of the operators of the MiG-29 in Southeast Asia, the Middle East and Latin America.

    - Are new contracts being discussed with Myanmar, for example, on the MiG-29 or the combat training Yak-130? When can a contract be signed for the supply of six Su-30 fighters, the purchase agreement of which was reached during Shoigu's visit last January?

    - We do not comment on our negotiations and pre-contract work. However, it can be said that Myanmar is one of the long-time buyers of Russian weapons and military equipment. We intend to maintain this relationship format in the future.

    - Indian media reported about dissatisfaction with the operation of the ship's MiG-29K - allegedly the command of the Navy intends to abandon their use because of claims to the glider, engine, electronic systems of the aircraft, as well as due to problems with their maintenance and repair. Have you received such negative reviews?


    - The planes are actively exploited by the Indian Navy, and so far we have not received any official requests from our colleagues in this language. During operation, any equipment requires service, repair, support - this is the workflow that we decide as part of the after-sales service of our equipment and the supply of necessary components for it.

    Today we are working closely with the Indian industry to achieve the best results in the after-sales service of Russian-made aircraft. UAC will act as the only contractual center in terms of providing after-sales service for Russian aircraft abroad. This will be one of our main strategic objectives at the AeroIndia-2019 air show, aimed at further strengthening the partnership with India.

    - Can Russia and India still return to the joint development of a fifth generation FGFA fighter?


    - Since the adoption of the first decisions and the signing of agreements, much time has passed, but Russia is still open for cooperation with India on this program.

    - Are there any plans to bring the fifth-generation Russian fighter Su-57 to the external market?


    - There is. As I said earlier, we are open for cooperation on this project on mutually beneficial terms.

    - What is the total portfolio of export orders of UAC now?


    - We do not disclose these figures, since the disclosure of information on the portfolio of export orders is the prerogative of the state intermediary, Rosoboronexport. Nevertheless, we can say that UAC enterprises are ready to fulfill all their obligations in terms of delivery and maintenance of our aircraft equipment in a quality and timely manner.

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    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:50 pm

    The court charged 371 million rubles from Aviakor in favor of the Russian Ministry of Defense


    As reported by the RIA Novosti news agency on February 25, 2019, the Moscow Arbitration Court, at the suit of the Russian Ministry of Defense, collected more than 371 million rubles from the Aviakor plant in Samara, which is part of the Russian Machines corporation of the Basel holding, Oleg Deripaska, follows from the published resolution section court decisions.

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    The last An-140-100 transport and passenger aircraft built for the Russian Aviation Corporation Aviakor-Aviation Plant under a contract in 2011 (registration number RA-41260, serial number 14А010, commissioned on November 28, 2014). Chkalovsky, 2018 (c) Ruslan Borovik / russianplanes.net (link)

    The capital arbitration satisfied the claim partially: the Defense Ministry demanded to recover from the defendant more than 928 million rubles - about 153 million fine under the state contract of May 11, 2011 for the supply of nine An-140 aircraft and about 776% for using the advance as a commercial loan. The court of first instance charged only interest, and then in the amount of only more than 371 million rubles. Other details are not reported yet. Aviakor is engaged in the overhaul of the Tu-154, maintenance of the Tu-154, Tu-95MS, An-140, An-74, supply components for various aircraft.

    The Ministry of Defense and Aviakor are conducting another trial under this contract. The defense department in a lawsuit filed a year ago, demanded to terminate the contract and recover from the aircraft factory an unearned advance payment in the amount of 2.2 billion rubles. The Moscow Arbitration in September fully satisfied the claims. At the same time, the court rejected the counterclaim, in which Aviakor also demanded to terminate the state contract and recover more than 435 million rubles of debt from the customer.

    The court records say that under the terms of the contract, the aircraft factory was to produce and deliver nine An-140 aircraft to the customer in 2011–2013, three aircraft a year. The agency transferred the company more than 4.5 billion rubles to fulfill the contract, but the Ministry of Defense received four aircraft worth over 2.3 billion rubles under the contract. The difference the claimant demanded to return.

    The defendant did not admit the claim, citing the circumstances of force majeure, expressed in the establishment in March 2014 of Ukraine, which supplied components, and the EU sanctions against Russia. In addition, Aviakor stated in court that the aircraft were delivered in the amount of 3.2 billion rubles, and the period for the fulfillment of its obligations was set unreasonably short.

    The Moscow Arbitration, however, rejected the respondent’s arguments, indicating in the decision that the circumstances of force majeure had already occurred beyond the time limit for the execution of the contract, and the contractor agreed with the deadlines when it was concluded. In December, the Ninth Arbitration Court of Appeal changed the decision of the lower instance, reducing the amount of recovery to 1.3 billion rubles. The court agreed with the arguments of the respondent that the understated cost of aircraft production was included in the contract.

    From the side of bmpd, we recall that from 2009 to 2013, the Ministry of Defense of Russia contracted five An-140-100 aircraft at Aviacor-Aviation Plant OJSC, including 11 for the Air Force and four for Naval Aviation Navy. The lead aircraft for the Air Force (VKS) of Russia under a separate contract dated December 2009 was commissioned in 2011, all four aircraft for the Navy under two separate contracts (2001 for one aircraft and 2013 for three aircraft) were built from 2012 to 2016.

    However, the implementation of the largest contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense of May 11, 2011 for nine An-140-100 aircraft for the Air Force (VKS) of Russia was inhibited from the very beginning. According to the contract, Aviakor had to deliver three An-140-100 airplanes per year from 2011 to 2013, then the plant achieved a revision of the schedule, promising to deliver six aircraft in 2012 and three in 2013. In fact, the company under this contract built only four aircraft, having handed over one plane in 2012, two - in 2013, and one - in 2014, on which the implementation of the contract ceased. Thus, nine An-140-100 aircraft were built at the plant for the Ministry of Defense (including four for the Navy).

    Back in June 2014, the Arbitration Court of the Samara Region satisfied the claim of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to the Aviakor plant in October 2013 for disrupting the supply of An-140-100 aircraft for 30 million rubles, although initially the size of the claims was 218.7 million rubles. The amount was reduced, since Aviakor in court proved that the failure to perform the contract was the fault of both parties and the requirements of the Ministry of Defense were exaggerated. However, then during 2014, the Ministry of Defense filed three more lawsuits against Aviakor for a total of 1.5418 billion rubles, all on the same issues of non-fulfillment of the contract for the An-140-100. The plant was partially justified by the disruption of the supply of components from Ukraine.

    The fate of another order is still unknown.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:38 am

    George1 wrote:

    The court charged 371 million rubles from Aviakor in favor of the Russian Ministry of Defense

       (...)
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    do you believe the company (Aviakor in Samara) can be nationalized and added to the UAC?
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:52 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

    do you believe the company (Aviakor in Samara) can be nationalized and added to the UAC?

    why would it be beneficial for Rostec ? you can "suck" specialists without dead company?
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:12 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

    do you believe the company (Aviakor in Samara) can be nationalized and added to the UAC?

    why would it be beneficial for Rostec ? you can "suck" specialists without dead company?
    Well, the plants has experience in building passenger aircrafts like the An-140 (50 passengers turboprop) and the Tu154 (old commercial jet) and also in Tu-95 modernisation. In addition, they produce parts for aircrafts assebled elsewhere.

    Since Russia wants to increase the amount of aircraft produced in the country they could easily put there some additional production lines (e.g) for the Il-276, relieving some of the work from Aviastar in Ulyanovsk, that will then be able to concentrate more on the bigger planes like the Il-76, Il-106 and Slon. Also, in case needed, they could open there a second production line for the Il-114 (now produced at Mig factory near Moscow , or for the Il-112V (VASO in Voronezh).

    Also this would maintain highly qualified aviation professional jobs in Samara.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:37 am


    BTW Р179В-300 or if you prefer R179V-300 was offered as one of contenders for PAK FA, lot to AL-41F, heh MiG again fucked up with ALF for years to come.

    In the Russian Arms catalogue of 2004 it mentioned a variant of the R179 with a 22 ton thrust rating... but it is a very wide and large engine... I really think the PAK FA would not be as slim or as stealthy if it had two of those in it and even with the 44 tons of combined thrust I think the extra drag would have limited top speed performance...

    It might have made the weapon bays deeper however and added a lot of internal volume for extra stuff I guess.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    BTW Р179В-300  or if you prefer R179V-300 was offered as one of contenders for PAK FA, lot to AL-41F, heh MiG again fucked up with ALF for years to come.

    In the Russian Arms catalogue of 2004 it mentioned a variant of the R179 with a 22 ton thrust rating... but it is a very wide and large engine... I really think the PAK FA would not be as slim or as stealthy if it had two of those in it and even with the 44 tons of combined thrust I think the extra drag would have limited top speed performance...

    It might have made the weapon bays deeper however and added a lot of internal volume for extra stuff I guess.

    How about one with 2 NK-32-2's, a Su-34 successor call it Su-62/64 "The Big Caboose"! Twisted Evil
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:49 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

    do you believe the company (Aviakor in Samara) can be nationalized and added to the UAC?

    why would it be beneficial for Rostec ? you can "suck" specialists without dead company?
    Well, the plants has experience in building passenger aircrafts like the An-140 (50 passengers turboprop) and the Tu154 (old commercial jet) and also in Tu-95 modernisation. In addition, they produce parts for aircrafts assebled elsewhere.

    Since Russia wants to increase the amount of aircraft produced in the country they could easily put there some additional production lines (e.g) for the Il-276, relieving some of the work from Aviastar in Ulyanovsk, that will then be able to concentrate more on the bigger planes like the Il-76, Il-106 and Slon. Also, in case needed, they could open there a second production line for the Il-114 (now produced at Mig factory near Moscow , or for the Il-112V (VASO in Voronezh).

    Also this would maintain highly qualified aviation professional jobs in Samara.

    Btw, are there any news about option of reopening the Saratov aircraft plant or to build a new plant in Saratov?


    Rostec was considering the possibility a couple of years ago.

    There, among the other, the passenger aircraft Yak-42 and the vertical take off aircraft Yak-38 were built.


    Unfortunately the criminal management bankrupted and sold the company area. A mall was built where part of the factory was and I believe residential complexes were the company airport were..
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:36 am

    How about one with 2 NK-32-2's, a Su-34 successor call it Su-62/64 "The Big Caboose"!

    With 2 x NK-32-2s it sounds more like a successor to the Backfire... which would also be fine... Smile

    They tried an S-60 to replace the Backfire but they clearly didn't bite...
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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:45 pm

    Interview of Yury Pustovgarov, Managing Director of Kazan Helicopter Plant JSC


    Tatarstan resource "BUSINESS Online" under the heading "Yuri Pustovgarov:" Why did the KHP leadership kill the plant's economy? There is still no answer ”published another interesting interview with the managing director of Kazan Helicopter Plant JSC (KHP, part of the Russian Helicopters JSC Yury Pustovgarov about the situation at the enterprise and its prospects.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3557594.html


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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:04 pm

    George1 wrote:

    Interview of Yury Pustovgarov, Managing Director of Kazan Helicopter Plant JSC



    Tatarstan resource "BUSINESS Online" under the heading "Yuri Pustovgarov:" Why did the KHP leadership kill the plant's economy? There is still no answer ”published another interesting interview with the managing director of Kazan Helicopter Plant JSC (KHP, part of the Russian Helicopters JSC Yury Pustovgarov about the situation at the enterprise and its prospects.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3557594.html



    Sounds like they are turning things around for the company. They admit the loss was investments into non existing contracts with India. But the good news is that Rostec is keeping an eye on their asset as important as this and head management is being proactive.
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    Post  dino00 on Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:28 pm

    Russia will not conduct the MAKS in 2019

    His place in the list of exhibitions took the International Naval Salon in St. Petersburg


    MOSCOW, March 15. / TASS /. Russia will not hold the traditional International Aviation and Space Salon (MAKS) in 2019. The corresponding order was published on the official Internet portal of legal information.

    In accordance with the document, in the list of international exhibitions of military products to be held in the country in 2019, the MAKS took the place of the International Naval Salon "MVMS-2019", which will be held in July in St. Petersburg.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6221871

    Suspect hope its a misunderstanding

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