LMFS wrote:What kind of work has been ongoing since 2010 for MiG-41 then? 8 years for what exactly?eehnie wrote:This aregument is not serious. If you want to go this way, the work on the replacement of the MiG-25/31 started in the 70s.
Just better to read what the head of MiG said. And to pay attention.
I pay much attention to what high-level executives and officials say, that is the problem when they say things that (apparently) do not make sense. I was not there so have to rely in what has been disclosed, cannot know what the guy was thinking on. What part of these statements should I believe? (Tarasenko @ ARMY 2017):
--> So the preliminary design is almost ready . It will be similar to MiG-31? Or is he meaning that MiG-31 will be substituted progressively?“[The development] is at the stage of finalizing the image of the plane. It will be a gradual transition from MiG-31 to PAK DA,”
--> So their proposal will be similar to MiG-31 but above and beyond in terms of capabilities. Confirmed it will operate in space, faster and longer ranged than MiG-31The plane, however, will not be just a modernization of MiG-31, it will be an entirely new machine, having “the ability to operate in space, new weapons, new speeds, new operational range,” Tarasenko told Zvezda TV channel on Tuesday.
--> MiG is preparing a technical offer to MoD with which they can be ready for series by 2025. Does this proposal include engines that actually exist and can fly to space or Mach 4? Would really love to know those“It will be an entirely new plane, where entirely new technologies to operate in the Arctic zone will be utilized. This plane will safeguard the whole border of our homeland. Later, the project will become unmanned,” TASS quoted Tarasenko as saying.
“We’re shaping our technical offer, so that the customer would make a decision on the need to develop the plane. … According to our internal estimates, we should make it to the serial development in 2025,” Tarasenko told RT.
So, development has not even been approved by MoD , Bondarev said the R&D for the plane would not start before 2019 but we should believe it is going to be ready for commissioning in 2025, is that?
From Slyusar @ARMY 2018
--> So the preliminary design will still go on for some years [the words preliminary design are not mentioned here and more clear statements say the contrary], if I understand correctly. It thought it was almost ready by 2017...- The life cycle of the MiG-31 was nearing completion in the next 10 years he will be replaced by the new fighter-interceptor MiG-41, it is the same PACK of DP. At what stage of implementation is the project?
We are at the stage of research. She will answer all the questions – what the car needs, what is the concept of engagement, what characteristics it must have, what problems to solve which we have scientific and technical potential, allowing these challenges to provide answers. This is a job for a few years.
--> Unclear what the plane will do, this will be the result of the preliminary design- There will be a new glider?
- We are working on a new concept, Yes. And the creation of this aviation system plan to use new technologies and materials.
- Have plans to increase performance in speed, range, ability to work in space?
Everything will be from the tasks to depend on. I will say in space to fly and fly into space.
--> Now we are gone to 2030. [To understand well this part is necessary to take into account that in the case of the combat aircrafts, the prototypes seem ordered by and delivered to the Russian Armed Forces, unlike in the case of the auxiliary aircrafts, where the procedure is different. 2025 can be refered to delivery of the prototype for the first fly, and 2030 to delivery of serial production, like has been more clearly expressed in other cases.] But still irrelevant [relevant, but unclear], since they don't know what they will offer and much less what the MoD will say [this would be absurd].- Assuming optimistic scenario, when you may receive this machine?
- It has to be logically synchronized with the completion of the scheduled resource of the MiG-31. By this time you will need a new car to develop – we are talking about the turn of 2030.
As said, this is the beginning of the preliminary development for the plane. We don't know yet what the plane will do and much less when it will be commissioned. [the parts that are more clearly understandable, marked in green, must not be disturbed by more unclear statements. Also you missed other more clear interviews]
Being serious no-one can expect to have full information of what the UAC achieved this year. It would reach easily the US Secretary of Defense.
Taking into account that you are asking, I marked in red what I think you are understanding wrongly from the quotes. And in green what you maybe understanding correctly. Including also some comment (mine) in blue and between .
Also this article also offers important and clear additional information, bolded in green:
The fifth generation MiG-41 fighter is being created in Russia
In the Russian aircraft corporation "MiG" are going to create a fifth-generation MiG-41, said the company's CEO Ilya Tarasenko.
Photo: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
According to Tarasenko, this project has been conducted for a long time, and soon the aircraft will be presented to the public.
"No, this is not a mythical project, a project for the MiG long-standing, now we are intensively conducting these works under the auspices of the UAC and will soon present them to the public," he said.
Tarasenko stressed that the project is in the stage of experimental and scientific work.
Earlier in an interview with the television company "Star" Tarasenko said that the fifth-generation aircraft will be built on a two-engine scheme .
According to him, the long-range interception aircraft complex will be built using low-visibility technology, will be able to work in near space.