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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:20 pm

    Trump owned Clinton News Network live lol1

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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  nomadski on Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:31 pm

    Looks like we need to prove that Russia was not involved in some actions . Therefore identifiers or markers need to be left during each operation . Only to be revealed if accusation comes up to incriminate . Marker can be DNA or other tangible evidence . Or in case of cyber , an electronic marker . Unknown to them . Revealed if accusation arises . There is no point in hiding activity. If further false flag comes up . Russian government can supply detail to trump. During cold war there was a secure link . A simple wire teletext . In today cyber actions need to be identified clearly . This clarity although a handicap . Is preferred to war .

    Example of new hot line: two electronic devices . Each in white house and Kremlin . Connected by secureline . Start and end operations are time marked and each machine sends code to third machine . In UN . Third party action or false flag ruled out . Any breach of protocol renders system ineffective . However it is interest of sides to adhere .confidence building .

    This not as crazy as it sounds . In syria information shared before operation in hot zone . In case of intelligence operation , information shared after operation . And when false flag come up by cia or mi6 or terrorist .

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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:14 pm

    Trump signs executive order withdrawing US from Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/23/trump-signs-order-withdrawing-u-s-from-trans-pacific-trade-deal/21660877/


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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:05 am

    Hahahahaha...

    The Clintons are shutting down the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), a crucial part of the famous Clinton Foundation....

    I wonder why there has be a sudden drop in contributions to that "charity"...

    "Why would foreign governments suddenly lose interest in the charitable work the Clinton Foundation purported to do?" Geraghty asked rhetorically.

    "They wouldn't, unless the Clinton Foundation and the CGI had existed to give foreign governments and businessmen a way to curry favor with a future president from the beginning," the journalist stressed.

    So donations were buying influence on the US government... but lets focus on Russian hackers supposedly influencing the elections in the US and ignore this blatant corruption...

    Read more here: https://sputniknews.com/politics/201701241049971098-clinton-sponsors-interests/


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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  par far on Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:04 pm

    Please watch this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcd-yvudYSg

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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:20 pm


    A 'Color Revolution' Is Now Underway in the United States

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/color-revolution-under-way-united-states/ri18760

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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  andalusia on Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:56 pm

    I didn't understand why Russians were celebrating when Trump became President of US. Yes Clinton didn't like Russia. Why did you guys think American Foreign policy would change. Do you guys realize that US is an enemy of Russia?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2773831/donald-trump-tough-vladimir-putin-sanctions-russia-gives-back-crimea/

    I was reading a website where the author does not like Russia or China.

    "Why must Russia and China be rivals or enemies?"

    Because they have been for several decades and most likely always will be,at the very least, rivals to West led, or not in recent times, by America.

    These are different cultures with different outlooks on the world than the West.

    These countries have nor ever will never be our friends, you should simply accept it.

    That's not to say we can't co-operate in many ways but they will continue to play a version of the 19th century "Great Game" with the West in their spheres of influence and also as they try to expand those respective spheres.

    We need only look at the recent actions of Putin and Shi Ji Ping.

    They have direct control of their respective nations, for the most part, and how they took advantage of Americas lack of action under Obama is obvious.

    :::: One could say that the actions of the US are bad too.

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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:16 am

    Clinton hates Russia... there would be nothing but cold war with her in power.

    Trump is not Russia friendly but he sees Russia as a huge powerful country that the US has to cooperate with to get things done.

    With Clinton it is America first and crush any rivals to the crown because America is best and no one else can be allowed in the same game.

    With Trump... he sees what all this America first bullshit has actually done to the real people of the US and while he is very rich he clearly recognises that the US can be great without making most Americans slaves to the 1 percent with money.


    He is no robin hood... but at least he will say no to wall street and let more americans have a bite of the pie.

    I don't like Trump much... he has too many about faces for me... but as they say better the devil you know... well Hilary would definitely be bad... Trump just might be...

    I suspect half the people voting for trump supported Sanders and just voted to Trump because they could not bring themselves to vote for hilary.

    Another factor is that the US media ignores over half the US population... they believe their own propaganda and believed Hilary would walk into office... they were wrong and when they were found to be wrong it was Russian hackers or aliens or whatever... they are in total denial because the big business wanted Hilary in power and they are owned by big business... clearly something many Americans do not want... more of the same.


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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  andalusia on Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:30 pm

    GarryB wrote:Clinton hates Russia... there would be nothing but cold war with her in power.

    Trump is not Russia friendly but he sees Russia as a huge powerful country that the US has to cooperate with to get things done.

    With Clinton it is America first and crush any rivals to the crown because America is best and no one else can be allowed in the same game.

    With Trump... he sees what all this America first bullshit has actually done to the real people of the US and while he is very rich he clearly recognises that the US can be great without making most Americans slaves to the 1 percent with money.


    He is no robin hood... but at least he will say no to wall street and let more americans have a bite of the pie.

    I don't like Trump much... he has too many about faces for me... but as they say better the devil you know... well Hilary would definitely be bad... Trump just might be...

    I suspect half the people voting for trump supported Sanders and just voted to Trump because they could not bring themselves to vote for hilary.

    Another factor is that the US media ignores over half the US population... they believe their own propaganda and believed Hilary would walk into office... they were wrong and when they were found to be wrong it was Russian hackers or aliens or whatever... they are in total denial because the big business wanted Hilary in power and they are owned by big business... clearly something many Americans do not want... more of the same.

    Garry B: Some of Trump's early decisions cater to Wall Street; he wants to eliminate regulations on banks that were put in place after the recession in 2008 like the Dodd Frank act.   I wouldn't underestimate him; He could turn out to be bad.  Secretary of Defense Mattis already talked bad about Russia.
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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:16 am

    I am not stupid enough to think a Trump led US would be best buddies with Russia.

    I do think that Trump can work with Russia rather than just oppose Russia on ideology alone.

    US congress would rather make a political opponent look bad rather than pass laws that are good for the American people.

    Hilary is the same... she would rather the US suffered than do anything that might benefit Russia even if it also benefited the US.

    She loves war... makes her think the US is strong.

    When the only path to the white house requires enormous amounts of money to get to the white house you must either be rich or supported by rich people.

    Rich people are not going to let someone get into the white house that would jeopardise their ability to make easy money... the people controlling the system have benefited from that system and don't want any major changes.

    Lobby groups in the US don't target republican or democrat... they bribe both sides... so it really does not matter who gets in... they are all bought before they step into the job.


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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  max steel on Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:59 am

    GarryB wrote:I am not stupid enough to think a Trump led US would be best buddies with Russia.

    I do think that Trump can work with Russia rather than just oppose Russia on ideology alone.



    The good part is that for a conceivable future, no matter the outcome of Trump’s trials and tribulations with America’s ‘deep state’, Moscow and Beijing would have no option but to swim together – to push back at the US until they checkmate American power and bury the American elite’s ‘uni-polar predicament’.
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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  Project Canada on Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:36 pm


    Michael Flynn Leaves Post of Trump's National Security Adviser

    Trump Expects Russia to 'Return Crimea' to Ukraine - White House


    It looks like Russia hating forces in the US are working hard to choke Trump's initiative to mend relations and force him to confront Russia at all costs. I really WISH Putin would come up with or at least ask the best strategists in Russia to formulate a plan to dismantle NATO hegemony over the world's financial system, only a complete economic collapse will throw NATO into chaos along with their military and globalist ambitions. its the only way to save Russia from being harassed everytime they purse their interests.
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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  kvs on Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:06 pm

    Project Canada wrote:
    Michael Flynn Leaves Post of Trump's National Security Adviser

    Trump Expects Russia to 'Return Crimea' to Ukraine - White House


    It looks like Russia hating forces in the US are working hard to choke Trump's initiative to mend relations and force him to confront Russia at all costs. I really WISH Putin would come up with or at least ask the best strategists in Russia to formulate a plan to dismantle NATO hegemony over the world's financial system, only a complete economic collapse will throw NATO into chaos along with their military and globalist ambitions. its the only way to save Russia from being harassed everytime they purse their interests.

    Stupid is, as stupid does. For a moment the US establishment had chance at trying to pry China and Russia apart and win the long game.
    They are now back to their bankrupt, insane delusion that Russia is some banana republic that can be pushed around. The crap about
    Crimea is rich. Does Russia also have to give Sevastopol back even though it was never transferred from Russia to Ukraine by Khruschev?
    This whole shtick of "international recognition" is vapid irrelevance. "Recognition" is not replacement for rights and facts on the ground.
    Some of the biggest hypocrites on Crimea are the UK. They always invoke the will of the population of the Falklands and Gibraltar as
    coming before the territorial aspect. Yet they routinely act as if the ethnic Russian majority in Crimea has no rights and some bogus
    territorial "rights" of Ukraine are paramount. Ukraine never had any rights to Sevastopol and its claims to the rest of Crimea are based on
    the illegal transfer by Khruschev and "recognition" of its "rights" by foreign powers.

    I hope Crimea keeps the riling the west and forcing it to keep sanctions on Russia for decades to come. These sanctions are a godsend
    to Russia.
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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:05 am

    I actually agree... good relations with the west will only increase the strings that the west will try to tie up the Russians with...

    I am sure Putin will return the Crimea to the Ukraine... when the US returns Alaska to Russia, and most of the southern US states to Mexico... and Guantanimo to Cuba for that matter...


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    Post  par far on Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:40 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Project Canada wrote:
    Michael Flynn Leaves Post of Trump's National Security Adviser

    Trump Expects Russia to 'Return Crimea' to Ukraine - White House


    It looks like Russia hating forces in the US are working hard to choke Trump's initiative to mend relations and force him to confront Russia at all costs. I really WISH Putin would come up with or at least ask the best strategists in Russia to formulate a plan to dismantle NATO hegemony over the world's financial system, only a complete economic collapse will throw NATO into chaos along with their military and globalist ambitions. its the only way to save Russia from being harassed everytime they purse their interests.

    Stupid is, as stupid does.   For a moment the US establishment had chance at trying to pry China and Russia apart and win the long game.
    They are now back to their bankrupt, insane delusion that Russia is some banana republic that can be pushed around.   The crap about
    Crimea is rich.   Does Russia also have to give Sevastopol back even though it was never transferred from Russia to Ukraine by Khruschev?
    This whole shtick of "international recognition" is vapid irrelevance.   "Recognition" is not replacement for rights and facts on the ground.
    Some of the biggest hypocrites on Crimea are the UK.   They always invoke the will of the population of the Falklands and Gibraltar as
    coming before the territorial aspect.   Yet they routinely act as if the ethnic Russian majority in Crimea has no rights and some bogus
    territorial "rights" of Ukraine are paramount.  Ukraine never had any rights to Sevastopol and its claims to the rest of Crimea are based on
    the illegal transfer by Khruschev and "recognition" of its "rights" by foreign powers.

    I hope Crimea keeps the riling the west and forcing it to keep sanctions on Russia for decades to come.   These sanctions are a godsend to Russia.

    This is very true, before the sanctions Russia was lazy and just depended on oil and gas. But now Russia has been forced to diversify it's economy and become more self reliant. This will hurt in the short term but will be very very very beneficially in the long term.


    What does everyone think of this article.

    “IT’S OVER FOLKS”: NEOCONS, DEEP STATE HAVE NEUTERED TRUMP PRESIDENCY."

    https://southfront.org/its-over-folks-neocons-deep-state-have-neutered-trump-presidency/



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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  par far on Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:41 pm

    GarryB wrote:I actually agree... good relations with the west will only increase the strings that the west will try to tie up the Russians with...

    I am sure Putin will return the Crimea to the Ukraine... when the US returns Alaska to Russia, and most of the southern US states to Mexico... and Guantanimo to Cuba for that matter...


    Very well said GarryB.


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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:16 am

    par far wrote:
    What does everyone think of this article.

    “IT’S OVER FOLKS”: NEOCONS, DEEP STATE HAVE NEUTERED TRUMP PRESIDENCY."

    https://southfront.org/its-over-folks-neocons-deep-state-have-neutered-trump-presidency/


    The Saker is always spot on. And, unfortunately in this case, he is again right. Oh well, at least I had a very good time seeing Trump scare liberal interventionists and neocons, troll celebrities, say to a CNN journo that he is fake news. It was fun.
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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  auslander on Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:36 am

    I think Saker is being a bit overwhelmed with gloom. It ain't over yet by a long sight. Rally scheduled for Saturday in Melbourne, FL.


    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/15/president-trump-announces-a-rally-in-melbourne-florida-saturday-february-18th-500pm/#more-128687
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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:56 am

    Just because you are president does not mean you can do anything and everything you like.

    There are some things that Trump can change and some things even he wont be able to change.

    First of all he needs to pick his battles and decide what he really wants to change and what he said he would change just to get elected or because it was the opposite of what the opposition was saying.

    I doubt he will be great but the fact that he pisses off the opposition so much is very entertaining.

    At the end of the day the US and most western countries for that matter have pretty much a two party system where one gets in and does their thing or the other gets in either because they win the vote or because they get enough protest votes (ie not voted in... the other party is voted out).

    Most parties are middle of the road these days and not really that much different except in a few key areas. ie more of the same... it has a different label so you can pretend you are trying a different brand but the crap is all made in the same factory from the same shit.

    Anything that might be very different like Sanders or the two candidates that also ran for president never make it to your local store...

    Welcome to democracy... makes 1984 look like a bright vision of the future really.


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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  auslander on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:30 am

    Trump has been up to his little suntanned bellybutton in alligators since before the election. For heaven's sake, the loyal opposition was talking impeachment before he took the oath of office! What is going on now is a coup d'etat against the sitting president of USA and this coup and resistance to same stands a very good chance of turning violent, very violent.

    In theory you are correct, the President does not have dictatorial powers but Obama surely pushed the envelop to the max. As for political parties, there used to be, back when I was young 5 and more decades ago, at least some difference in the two main parties. That can not be said today as a general observation.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:14 pm

    Trump Authorizes Pre-Emptive Somalia Airstrikes in Latest US Military Escalation

    https://sputniknews.com/africa/201703311052170259-somalia-trump-airstrikes-escalation/


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    Post  nomadski on Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:29 pm

    What they say , is different to what they do . Diplomatic overtures aside . Only our countries intelligence services know the extent of their actions . Flexibility of response and caution is important . Getting into bed with them is like trusting in not catching VD from a prostitute . And parting with your money before inspecting the goods . That's what happened in Iran nuclear deal . Dismantling of centrifuges before lifting of sanctions . . And do we learn ? No , we don't . Iranians order yellow cake from the English . And they fail to deliver .

    All that was needed , was a little blood in the water . To distract the economic sharks and break their ranks . Set the economic sector against the military sector . As their actions change , so should our response . But keeping a little blood in the water has disproportionate benefits . The most Iran should trust to buy from the English is perhaps biscuits . Not ( yellow ) cake .

    I have said before . And say again that a world wide anti - NATO alliance of nations needs to form to fight the English ( American ) empire . This must happen and will happen by necessity . Yesterday Libya or Syria or ....today North Korea . Pressure must be applied by all nations simultaneously and in unison against the empire . If they attack Syria then Iran and North Korea and ....Argentine and Spain ...should react at once . Or we will all die at their hands .

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    Re: US Politics & Foreign Policy under D.Trump

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:01 am

    US: the next stop after Syria is Yemen?

    According to the "TTU" bulletin in the publication "Yémen: aide massive de Washington", two years after the outbreak of the war against the Husites, Washington is preparing to provide massive aid to Saudi Arabia, which is waging war in Yemen. The goal is to reduce Iran's influence in the region. This assistance will go in several directions: increasing the supply of weapons, supporting Riyadh with intelligence information and strikes from UAVs, and seizing several strategic points from the Husites.

    The priority is the Port of Hodeidah in the Red Sea. Its seizure will allow it only to cut off the husits ​​from their supply lines, but also to accept the fleet of ships with humanitarian aid, in order to avoid mass starvation that can affect up to 60: the population of Yemen. As usual, the humanitarian aspects explain the military invasion, which has different tasks.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2545866.html


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