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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:29 pm

    Austin wrote:Thanks , Janes says the 57 mm Gun turret is front engine

    Here is a picture of Derivatsiya showing its rear-engined configuration.

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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:21 pm

    More BMP-3s for Russian Army

    In 2015, "Kurgan" concluded with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation long-term contract for delivery in 2015-2017 military units of the Russian army of more than 200 BMP-3.

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  George1 on Mon May 30, 2016 3:18 pm

    Media: infantry fighting vehicles will be strengthened with the "Baikal"

    MOSCOW, May 30 -. RIA News Corporation "Uralvagonzavod" and JSC "Central Research Institute" Petrel "intend to install on infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3, a new 57-mm automatic remotely operated artillery module AU-220M" Baikal ", writes the newspaper" Izvestia ".

    BMP complex facilities that will significantly expand the capabilities of combat vehicles, as of today there are no armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, which are able to withstand the shot, "Baikal" in the world, the newspaper notes.

    Multifunctional complex equally effectively resists both ground targets and the means of air attacks.

    "Baikal" is able to carry up to 120 rounds per minute at a maximum range of 12 kilometers. Ammunition complex make armor-piercing, high-explosive shells and guided missiles.

    BMP-3 was adopted by the Soviet Army in 1987, after which the machine repeatedly modernized.

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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  franco on Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:18 am

    Over 200 BMP-3's to supplied up to end of 2017. A brigade takes 120 so expect this order is for 240 units or 2 brigades.

    http://tass.com/defense/819772
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:56 am

    Overhaul of BMP-3 mastered at OJSC "Kurganmashzavod"

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2515086.html


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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:31 am

    How the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles are being manufactured at Kurganmashzavod OJSC

    Perhaps the most famous production, manufactured today by the Kurgan Machine Building Plant (KMZ), is the infantry fighting vehicle BMP-3.

    Designed at the Special Design Bureau (KSBM), KMZ BMP under the designation "Object 688" (the subject "Fable") has been developed since 1978. In 1980, the Tula Instrument Design Bureau (KBP) and the Special Design Bureau of the KMZ jointly proposed a new powerful 2K23 armament complex for this machine, combining a 30mm automatic 2A72 gun and a 100mm cannon launcher 2A70. Tests of the prototype BMP "Object 688M" with this complex of weapons began in 1982, and since 1985, state and military tests of this machine, which received the designation of BMP-3, were conducted. In May 1987, BMP-3 was officially adopted. Since the end of 1987, KMZ has started serial production of BMP-3 in parallel with BMP-2, although due to prolonged refinement of the machine it was carried out at a slow pace. By 1994, the Defense Ministry was supplied only 339 serial BMP-3 (some of them were presented in our previous report). Then the production of BMP-3 for the Russian Army resumed in 2004, and it is still under way. In addition, BMP-3 is actively exported.

    Our blog was able to see firsthand the production of this remarkable machine, the production of which is directed to the strength of almost 6000 workers of CMP. We are not lazy and thank the press service of KKU Concern Tractor Plants, the KMZ team and the Special Machine-Building Design Bureau.

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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:04 am

    Current activity of JSC "Special Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering"

    In view of the failure of the BMP-1 armament complex, based on the low-power 73mm 2A28 Thunder gun, in 1972, work began on the creation of a new infantry fighting vehicle with new weapons. As competing options, machines armed with a 30-mm automatic cannon 2A42 and a 73-mm long-barreled gun Zarnitsa were considered, and SKB KMZ and OKB ChTZ were presented versions of both types of cars. As a result, a version of SKB KMZ with a 30-mm gun was selected (Object 675). In 1978, this machine passed military tests, and then in April 1980 it was put into serial production at the CMP under the designation BMP-2.

    We have already told about the history of the BMP-3 that replaced it, so let's see what KSBM is doing at the moment.


    Developed by the JSC "Special Machine Building Design Bureau" (SKBM, Kurgan), a prospective infantry fighting vehicle "Dragoon", which is the further development of BMP-3. In the BMP reconfiguration was carried out, the engine was placed in front, which made it possible to make a free access to the stern



    One of the first prototypes of an armored personnel carrier BTR-MDM, whose range is 20000km


    The combat vehicle BMD-4M with combat compartment from BMP-3 instead of "Bakhchi", also called BMD-4M2. In the fighting compartment there was an additional sight-device guidance commander (PPN-K)


    Another promising subject for the extension of the BMP-3 life cycle is the BT-3F armored personnel carrier. It was originally developed in the interests of Indonesia, which seeks to replace its obsolete armored personnel carriers BTR-50P. The customer is ready to take several hundred cars. Also the interest to BT-3F is shown by the Russian Defense Ministry.


    The option of upgrading the BMP-3 within the framework of the R & D framework "Carcas-2" - emphasis is in favor of increasing the security (c) of bmpd


    Another version of the upgraded BMP-3 with a digital fire control system


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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  0nillie0 on Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:43 pm

    tipex12 wrote:
    Russia unveils new armoured fighting vehicle with 57mm gun



    From the media thread, with thanks to tipex12.

    Al tough its early days for this turret design, i quite like the road they appear to going down with this. The electro-optics for the gunner look like they well be integrated next the actual cannon, in a similar fashion to the RWS seen on the Kurganets/T-15. The design looks really compact. Cant wait to see more of this in the future.

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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  franco on Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:38 am

    VOLGOGRAD, April 26 - RIA Novosti . The Russian Defense Ministry plans to buy a batch of new BT-3F armored personnel carriers from the Volgograd Tractor Plant for trial operation, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said today as part of a working visit to defense enterprises in Volgograd.

    "The practice of initiative works is welcomed by the Ministry of Defense, but there is a rule: any technique, made in an initiative manner, must meet our requirements." We are not present in the process of creating initiative equipment, but only at the stage of its pilot operation. Tests, and by results we will draw conclusions.We have a specialized institute, it conducts tests, "Borisov said.

    Now the armament of the Russian army consists of MT-LB armored vehicles, which were manufactured in Ukraine. The BT-3F armored personnel carrier was designed to replace Ukrainian armored cars.
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  0nillie0 on Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:07 pm

    franco wrote:VOLGOGRAD, April 26 - RIA Novosti . The Russian Defense Ministry plans to buy a batch of new BT-3F armored personnel carriers from the Volgograd Tractor Plant for trial operation, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said today as part of a working visit to defense enterprises in Volgograd.

    "The practice of initiative works is welcomed by the Ministry of Defense, but there is a rule: any technique, made in an initiative manner, must meet our requirements." We are not present in the process of creating initiative equipment, but only at the stage of its pilot operation. Tests, and by results we will draw conclusions.We have a specialized institute, it conducts tests, "Borisov said.

    Now the armament of the Russian army consists of MT-LB armored vehicles, which were manufactured in Ukraine. The BT-3F armored personnel carrier was designed to replace Ukrainian armored cars.

    I thought the BT-3F was designed as an alternative for the BTR-80/82 for naval infantry units, giving them a vehicle with increased mobility and protection for coastal assaults?

    As a potential future "replacement" for MT-LB, i think it would be beneficial for the overall design to be changed to a front mounted engine next to the driver seat, allowing the crew to exit the vehicle from a hydraulic ramp at the rear of the vehicle. The crew compartment could be slightly larger, providing more comfort during transportation. The MT-LB has room for 11. In the adjusted configuration the BT-3F should still have enough room in the back for 12 dismounts and the vehicle commander with his operating station. Off course this would mean sacrificing the front machine-gun operators.

    Also, these modifications may be too drastic to remain cost effective for mass production. It requires a rather more extended modification of the basic bmp-3 chassis, as well as a change in doctrine.
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:36 am

    I doubt they will spend too much money on an MTLB replacement when the Kurganets is front engined and could easily be built without a turret as a basis for an MTLB replacement.


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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  George1 on Mon May 29, 2017 1:56 am

    The Russian Army receives BMP-3 with thermal imagers

    According to Dmitry Lemeshko's article "Qualitative breakthrough: the Russian Army received BMP-3 with thermal imagers" published on the web-resource "Bulletin of Mordovia", the Russian Army began to receive new BMP-3s, which have improved tactical and technical characteristics. These infantry fighting vehicles, apparently, have at last been equipped with the latest domestic sights of the PNDD B03S03 "Sodema" with a thermal imaging channel.



    As previously reported by the "Bulletin of Mordovia," the multi-channel complex "Sodema" is designed and manufactured by the Vologda Optical-Mechanical Plant. This sight guarantees "high accuracy of weapon guidance and reduction of target destruction time".

    Installed at the BMP "Sodema" replaces immediately two sightings of the gunner-operator: "SOZH-M" and "Viasna-K" of Belarusian production.

    The Sodema sight is designed to monitor the battlefield, detect and identify targets, measure the range to the target, and guide guided ammunition. It provides targeted fire from the armament complex at any time of the day, including in conditions of insufficient visibility.

    "Sodema" has an independent stabilization of the field of view in two planes, equipped with a day-sighting and thermal imaging channel, an integrated laser range finder and a guided missile guidance channel.

    The main technical characteristics of the Sodema sight:

    Type: combined, day-night (thermal imaging), periscopic, with independent stabilization of the field of view in two planes, with built-in range finder, guided guidance channel

    There is a daily sighting channel

    Range of target identification, m, not less than 5500

    Magnification, x 2.5 and 12

    Field of view, degrees 4 and 20

    Thermal imaging channel:

    Target detection range of tank type, m, not less than 3000

    Wavelength, μm 8 - 12

    Field of view: wide, degree 9

    This BMP-3 has a day and night surveillance device for the commander of TKN-AI. However, in the photo the laser projector for active-impulse illumination is covered with a tarpaulin.

    In addition to the training part in the Voronezh region, new infantry fighting vehicles entered the district training center of the Western Military District, stationed in the Vladimir region. About this in late April, the press service of the district reported.

    It is about ten units of BMP-3. On new combat vehicles, the instructors of the OTC will train the cadets in driving and shooting. Training will last for six months in the following specialties: commander, mechanic-driver, gunner-operator.

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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  0nillie0 on Mon May 29, 2017 11:51 am

    So BMP-3 will receive same gunner sight as BMD-4M.
    This is a logical modernization move. Al tough VESNA-K is not a bad sight, the lack of thermal could be problematic in some combat situations.
    Seems like they are wasting no time upgrading what they already have.

    Any idea on what percentage of the BMP-3 inventory is planned to receive this upgrade, and in what time frame? If i understand correctly, it will also replace the larger SOZH gunner sight which has been installed on a rather limited amount of vehicles? I have not seen many pictures of in service BMP-3's with SOZH tbh.

    I think we will see full scale retrofitting start next year following the completion of the training cycle.
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  Book. on Wed May 31, 2017 2:21 pm

    Vologda Optical and Mechanical Plant: Содема-Sodema
    Here: http://www.kurganmash.ru/machines/bmp3u/fire_power/sodema/

    Day Site: 5500, m
    Zoom: x2.5 to 12
    Target Recognition Tank: 3000, m
    Wavelength: 8-12 Micron


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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  AttilaA on Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:41 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:So BMP-3 will receive same gunner sight as BMD-4M.
    This is a logical modernization move. Al tough VESNA-K is not a bad sight, the lack of thermal could be problematic in some combat situations.
    Seems like they are wasting no time upgrading what they already have.

    Any idea on what percentage of the BMP-3 inventory is planned to receive this upgrade, and in what time frame? If i understand correctly, it will also replace the larger SOZH gunner sight which has been installed on a rather limited amount of vehicles? I have not seen many pictures of in service BMP-3's with SOZH tbh.

    I think we will see full scale retrofitting start next year following the completion of the training cycle.

    Vesna-K is a thermal sight. The mentioned B03S03 gunner's sight combines the day and thermal channels in one single sight, that's probably what is meant with "replacing Sozh-M and Vesna-K". Also Sozh-M and Vesna-K are developed & produced by Belarusian Peleng, while B03S03 is developed by a Russian firm.

    Russian Army BMP-3s were never equipped with Vesna-K in first place, but only with Sozh-M. Sozh-M lacks a thermal imager.

    Sozh-M and Vesna-K sights are installed next to each other, see the Azerbaijani BMP-3s (photo below). Note the larger size of sight housing.



    Russian BMP-3 with Sozh-M for comparison.



    (Source: http://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Rehearsal-in-Alabino-05April2017/i-wnHg9Vh/A )
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  0nillie0 on Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:49 pm

    AttilaA wrote:
    0nillie0 wrote:So BMP-3 will receive same gunner sight as BMD-4M.
    This is a logical modernization move. Al tough VESNA-K is not a bad sight, the lack of thermal could be problematic in some combat situations.
    Seems like they are wasting no time upgrading what they already have.

    Any idea on what percentage of the BMP-3 inventory is planned to receive this upgrade, and in what time frame? If i understand correctly, it will also replace the larger SOZH gunner sight which has been installed on a rather limited amount of vehicles? I have not seen many pictures of in service BMP-3's with SOZH tbh.

    I think we will see full scale retrofitting start next year following the completion of the training cycle.

    Vesna-K is a thermal sight. The mentioned B03S03 gunner's sight combines the day and thermal channels in one single sight, that's probably what is meant with "replacing Sozh-M and Vesna-K". Also Sozh-M and Vesna-K are developed & produced by Belarusian Peleng, while B03S03 is developed by a Russian firm.

    Russian Army BMP-3s were never equipped with Vesna-K in first place, but only with Sozh-M. Sozh-M lacks a thermal imager.

    Sozh-M and Vesna-K sights are installed next to each other, see the Azerbaijani BMP-3s (photo below). Note the larger size of sight housing.
    (Source: http://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Rehearsal-in-Alabino-05April2017/i-wnHg9Vh/A )

    Thanks for the clarification.

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    BMP-3 IFVs in the Russian Western Military District

    Post  BAC080777 on Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:22 pm

    I have found various statements, on what formations within the 1st tank Army (specifically the 4th armored division and the 6th tank brigade) have recieved BMP-3 IFVs. As I have found in research through the internet, the only unit within the Western Military District that has BMP-3s, is the 27th independent brigade.
    All other BMP-3 units are part of the Southern Military District.

    Can anyone verify this, or give feedback? unshaven

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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  George1 on Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:44 pm

    BAC080777 wrote:I have found various statements, on what formations within the 1st tank Army (specifically the 4th armored division and the 6th tank brigade) have recieved BMP-3 IFVs.  As I have found in research through the internet, the only unit within the Western Military District that has BMP-3s, is the 27th independent brigade.
    All other BMP-3 units are part of the Southern Military District.

    Can anyone verify this, or give feedback?  unshaven

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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  franco on Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:07 am

    There are another 2 brigades worth of BMP-3 under order and being delivered. Believe the 27th Brigades BMP-3's are now with the 4th Tank Division.
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  franco on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:47 pm

    The 4th Military Base in South Ossetia will be the next unit to be equipped with the BMP-3 by the end of 2017.
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    Re: BMP-3 in Russian Army

    Post  franco on Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:33 pm

    The last of the present order for BMP-3 (200 plus) has just been delivered. Not aware of any further orders announced.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12153342@egNews
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:54 am

    franco wrote:The last of the present order for BMP-3 (200 plus) has just been delivered. Not aware of any further orders announced.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12153342@egNews

    What about the upgraded variants that were recently shown?

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