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franco wrote:Cyberspec wrote:franco wrote:The last of the present order for BMP-3 (200 plus) has just been delivered. Not aware of any further orders announced.
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12153342@egNews
What about the upgraded variants that were recently shown?
This order is an updated version over the previous orders plus there is an upgrade program in place... how many not sure.
George1 wrote:franco wrote:Cyberspec wrote:franco wrote:The last of the present order for BMP-3 (200 plus) has just been delivered. Not aware of any further orders announced.
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12153342@egNews
What about the upgraded variants that were recently shown?
This order is an updated version over the previous orders plus there is an upgrade program in place... how many not sure.
so how many BMP-3s we have now in Russian Army?
franco wrote:In-depth look at the BMP-3 produced and users:
https://altyn73.livejournal.com/2018/05/27/
d_taddei2 wrote:We all know about the 57mm AA gun development mounted on the bmp-3 but is there plans to mount the 57mm gun on bmp-3 in role of AFV? I've seen articles on BTR-80 version with 57mm gun.
In theory as long as a gun can elevate high enough it could engage aircraft and of course an dedicated anti air system like tunguska can lower it's guns to engage ground targets.flamming_python wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:We all know about the 57mm AA gun development mounted on the bmp-3 but is there plans to mount the 57mm gun on bmp-3 in role of AFV? I've seen articles on BTR-80 version with 57mm gun.
My understanding is that the 57mm guns are designed for dual anti-air and ground use anyway.
on some forums some where surprised at iraq buying such mostly down usa influence and buying of usa weapons. but I remember reading an article when UAE were deciding on a AFV they invited various companies with various vehicles to be tested on desert climates and they were put through their paces. and although Bradley vehicles on paper looked good having TOW and good armour they proved not to be very reliable. The bmp-3 was chosen not because it's was cheaper and had a multitude of weapons including atgw capabilities but because it coped better in the desert climate. so its no surprise that iraq chose it having similar climate. Kuwait also have it and Saudi rumoured to be interested although it's gone quiet on it.0nillie0 wrote:Not really in "Russian Army" but....
BMP-3 supposedly for Iraqi Army :
The vehicle seems largely based on the BMP-3M upgrade showcased at Kubinka in 2015.
If features the upgraded gunner sight complex sodema (as per BMP-3M for Russian Army) and "Schürzen armor" on the sides, rather than the addon modules seen on Russian vehicles.
Additional features are cage armor on the turret, and the commander sighting complex is upgraded with PL-1-01 laser beamer to replace the IR searchlight
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d_taddei2 wrote:In theory as long as a gun can elevate high enough it could engage aircraft and of course an dedicated anti air system like tunguska can lower it's guns to engage ground targets.flamming_python wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:We all know about the 57mm AA gun development mounted on the bmp-3 but is there plans to mount the 57mm gun on bmp-3 in role of AFV? I've seen articles on BTR-80 version with 57mm gun.
My understanding is that the 57mm guns are designed for dual anti-air and ground use anyway.
The new AA 57mm gun system is a dedicated air defence weapon that can target ground targets. and the AU-220M Baikal RCWS turret has been mentioned on btr -80 and bmp-3 nothing concrete yet. and having a dedicated 57mm turret for AFV use would likely have kornet attached to it. AA system would likely have some sort of radar attached. The btr-82 30mm gun is a dedicated ground attack turret but in theory could engage a helicopter.
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We all know about the 57mm AA gun development mounted on the bmp-3 but is there plans to mount the 57mm gun on bmp-3 in role of AFV? I've seen articles on BTR-80 version with 57mm gun.
In theory as long as a gun can elevate high enough it could engage aircraft
The btr-82 30mm gun is a dedicated ground attack turret but in theory could engage a helicopter.
The bmp-3 was chosen not because it's was cheaper and had a multitude of weapons including atgw capabilities but because it coped better in the desert climate. so its no surprise that iraq chose it having similar climate. Kuwait also have it and Saudi rumoured to be interested although it's gone quiet on it.
Wasn't the idea behind the 57mm AA capability to have some sort of radar vehicle feeding data to the AFVs?
Don't remember exactly.
Fitting a dedicated radar on each AFV could get expensive.
All new vehicles are fitted with datalink systems. In case of need air defence vehicles or radar systems organic to the unit will transmit data to AICV´s to guide their weapons in air defence mode.
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Ok thanks I have to admit I watch first video fully and second video I watched snippets must have missed it. but still no bastion lolGarryB wrote:In the second video they fired 100mm and 30mm rounds at an old BTR...
20 minutes and 20 seconds for the 30mm cannon (before that they fire at a cardboard AFV shape with 30mm), and about 20 minutes 50 seconds for a 100mm shot at the same BTR target... then they hit a stack of wood with the 100mm round...
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