Project 885: Yasen class

Arrow wrote:Kazan launch Onyx missile.

https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=0&nid=542503&lang=RU

Arrow wrote:Great though this is only the second ship of Project 885. Meanwhile, the US has already introduced 18 Virginia-class ships. Incredible potential difference.

calripson wrote:

Arrow wrote:Great though this is only the second ship of Project 885. Meanwhile, the US has already introduced 18 Virginia-class ships. Incredible potential difference.

And? America has the world's reserve currency, runs multi-trillion dollar fiscal deficits every year, and has $27 trillion in debt as well as a population over twice that of Russia. Russia has to live within its means. They don't have to match America 1:1 in naval capability and never even came close during the days of the USSR. They have to provide a sufficient deterrent force.

calripson wrote:

Arrow wrote:Great though this is only the second ship of Project 885. Meanwhile, the US has already introduced 18 Virginia-class ships. Incredible potential difference.

And? America has the world's reserve currency, runs multi-trillion dollar fiscal deficits every year, and has $27 trillion in debt as well as a population over twice that of Russia. Russia has to live within its means. They don't have to match America 1:1 in naval capability and never even came close during the days of the USSR. They have to provide a sufficient deterrent force.

GarryB wrote:Well that is interesting... forward scouting subs listening for targets and plotting their positions using sonar and transmitting target information to other platforms further away...

In fact they could have rather small submarines dedicated for the purpose with a tiny crew that could be forward deployed with minimal noise signature... and a decent sonar set listening for enemy shipping using computer power to determine which is which.... enemy carrier groups are not quiet and are often moving at speed to get from or to somewhere...

Of course having standard SSNs doing the same thing would be rather useful as well and also rather more flexible and useful for other jobs too.

It is all part of their new net centricity plan which means fighter planes and subs can scout targets that other platforms can engage meaning the fighters don't need to fly everywhere with high drag large and heavy anti ship missiles, but can use sophisticated sensors and equipment to find targets suitable for engaging... and subs can do the same... as well as small surface, subsurface and airborne drones presumably...

GarryB wrote:It is all part of their new net centricity plan which means fighter planes and subs can scout targets that other platforms can engage meaning the fighters don't need to fly everywhere with high drag large and heavy anti ship missiles, but can use sophisticated sensors and equipment to find targets suitable for engaging... and subs can do the same... as well as small surface, subsurface and airborne drones presumably...