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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:25 pm

    Manov wrote:lol, ok sorry, i didnt know the kind of issues the 35 had. It was just a question, minding all the advanced fighters in the region that can threat the ru base there.
    flanker got some 35illness it seems
    Must be the number 35 is the problem. Think Su-35 and F-35, both suffering from problems with too many made before sorting the design out.

    The Russians at least seem to have learnt the lesson with the limited number of T-50 made before full production is committed.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  franco on Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:31 pm

    George1 wrote:Ηere is also the article of bmpd.livejournal for the new contract of 48-50 Su-35s. http://bmpd.livejournal.com
    It also says:

    1. 2 first Su-35s for contract of 24 with China will be delivered at the end of this year
    2. There are negotiations, not contract yet for the supply of 12x Su-35s to Indonesia
    3. The first contract for the supply of 48 vehicles of this type was signed in 2009 and fully implemented in 2015.

    franco can we confirm the last one?

    No we can't, but I suspect they were completed. I also suspect that those completed last have been exchanged with those completed prior at Lipetsk and Akhtubinsk for the first units to be brought back and up to standard. And when that is done, there will be enough (12) to fit a squadron out. Millerovo was due next. Also a question why the last 10 Su-30SM's weren't released. Maybe Millerovo is not ready or crews not all trained.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:18 pm


    If they are ordering 50 more now, does that mean that they sorted out the problems or are they still learning on the job?

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  franco on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:19 pm

    And what do I know.....

    Two Su-35s in the coming days entered service in the Primorsky Territory Regiment, reported January 11 the chief of the press service of the Eastern Military District, Colonel Alexander Gordeyev. "The pilots were retrained for new combat aircraft based on the aircraft of the district in the Khabarovsk region. Today, engineers and technicians is preparing new aircrafts for flights to Primorsky Krai from Komsomolsk-on-Amur," - he said. According to Gordeyev, after the signing of the necessary documents and performance validation flights, which are scheduled for this week, both fighters will fly in Primorye. Su-35S - Single fighter generation "4 ++", equipped with an onboard radar with a phased antenna array, as well as engines with thrust vector control. Advanced Glider with reinforced structure provides the fighter resource in 30 years. It is expected that the aircraft will replace the Su-27. In late December last year, it was reported that the latest Su-35s for the first time step up combat duty on air defense located in the Khabarovsk Territory.


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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  franco on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:21 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    If they are ordering 50 more now, does that mean that they sorted out the problems or are they still learning on the job?

    They certified them for operational duty at the end of November so suspect most or the major bugs have been ironed out.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Militarov on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:47 pm

    franco wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    If they are ordering 50 more now, does that mean that they sorted out the problems or are they still learning on the job?

    They certified them for operational duty at the end of November so suspect most or the major bugs have been ironed out.

    Took alot more time than i expected tbh. I was hoping that official acceptance to service would be somewhere in early 2015.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Militarov on Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:00 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    Berkut wrote:Sorry if i was terse, it is just that people seem to have a rosy picture of aviation in general, there are always many underlining engineering issues that needs to be solved with any reasonably new type. And Su-35S in particular is way too "raw" at the moment to be a "spearhead" in abroad missions.
    I'm curious to hear in what areas is the Su-35S still too raw in with it being finally put into combat service? Is the problem in the number of combat ready Su-35S fighters available then?

    It shouldn't be that much of a problem for the operational Su-35S to do an easy task like escort the VKS bombers from Russia. I see that it doesn't make sense to deploy the Su-35S over the Su-30SM when the Su-30SM almost measures up in air superiority aspects but provides more flexibility if stationed in Syria. But the USAF sent a few F-22s to hit ground targets in Syria (USAF returned them quickly after Russia entered the fray) even though the F-22 wasn't even meant for that role when it was envisioned for the ATF competition. Eventually, it may be better for the Su-35S and their pilots to get some combat experience just like the F-22, especially when countries will exhaust all available diplomatic options before entering a war where air superiority is needed to be established.

    From what i managed to pick from some reports they had issues with what we like here to call "data fusion" and weapon integration. First one i understand, Russians are still catching up in that field. When its about pure mechanical issues that forced them to be sent back to Knaapo i am not really sure.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  franco on Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:20 pm

    First Su-35S's arrive in Primorsky.
    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160115/1033168114/su-35-fighter-jet.html

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  franco on Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:36 am

    This comes off as a little confusing but we will have to see how it works out;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1682557.html

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:55 am

    franco wrote:This comes off as a little confusing but we will have to see how it works out;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1682557.html

    it seems these 2 Su-35Ss are previous built and they simply transferred there these days.


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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  franco on Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:07 am

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:This comes off as a little confusing but we will have to see how it works out;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1682557.html

    it seems these 2 Su-35Ss are previous built and they simply transferred there these days.

    From the Komsomolsk Regiment, when if their claim that the order was completed if true, there are 12 unassigned aircraft out there. Possibility is that some of the earliest completed aircraft need retrofitting.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Ivan the Colorado on Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:09 am

    News about China's Su-35s: http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2588456

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:07 pm

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:News about China's Su-35s: http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2588456
    In English

    MOSCOW, January 15. /TASS/. Russia will start supplying Su-35 fighter jets to China in the 4th quarter of 2016, a military-diplomatic source told TASS on Friday. "Supplies of fighter jets will start in the 4th quarter of this year. For now, everything goes according to plan," the source said.

    It was reported earlier that Russia and China signed a contract on delivering 24 Su-35 fighter jets worth at least $2 billion to Beijing. According to a source in the sphere of military-technical cooperation, the contract will be fulfilled in three years.

    Russia’s United Instrument Manufacturing Corporation told TASS that the production of modernized communication systems S-108 for Su-35 jets has already started.


    More: http://tass.ru/en/defense/849791

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  medo on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:26 pm



    Interesting picture of new Su-35S with wingtip jamming pods.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Berkut on Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:50 pm

    Well well well. Looks like i am eating my words re Su-35S and Syria. Appears 4 of them are being deployed to Syria;

    http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1221403.html#1221403

    Shocking turn of events tbh. These frames are 2015 production and were handed over in October so they are as new as it comes more or less.

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    Post  Neutrality on Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:08 pm

    Berkut wrote:Well well well. Looks like i am eating my words re Su-35S and Syria. Appears 4 of them are being deployed to Syria;

    http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1221403.html#1221403

    Shocking turn of events tbh. These frames are 2015 production and were handed over in October so they are as new as it comes more or less.

    What would be a reliable way of checking whether or not those birds are flying in Syrian air space? Geo-tagging through EXIF perhaps?

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:51 pm

    Berkut wrote:Well well well. Looks like i am eating my words re Su-35S and Syria. Appears 4 of them are being deployed to Syria;

    http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1221403.html#1221403

    Shocking turn of events tbh. These frames are 2015 production and were handed over in October so they are as new as it comes more or less.

    Don't worry man, you still good, it's still 4 hand picked 35's and it looks more like a massive ad flight than anything else.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Militarov on Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:52 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Berkut wrote:Well well well. Looks like i am eating my words re Su-35S and Syria. Appears 4 of them are being deployed to Syria;

    http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1221403.html#1221403

    Shocking turn of events tbh. These frames are 2015 production and were handed over in October so they are as new as it comes more or less.

    Don't worry man, you still good, it's still 4 hand picked 35's and it looks more like a massive ad flight than anything else.

    They just want to see how operating cycles go and whats the availability rates and stuff like that in field. Those 4 are just lab rats Smile

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  medo on Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:24 pm

    Nice to see, that they all have wingtip ECM pods. I hope they will equip all Su-30SM in Syria with them too. We will see, if they will be armed with R-77-1 missiles as they have AKU-170 adapters.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  AK-Rex on Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:04 pm

    RuAF Su-35S fighters deployed to Syria are armed with RVV-SD / AA-12 air-to-air missiles!



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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  mack8 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:14 pm

    Nice to see the R-77-1 being confirmed in service (not to mention the Su-35 armed to the teeth).
    A longer video:

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    Post  nemrod on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:56 pm

    mack8 wrote:Nice to see the R-77-1 being confirmed in service (not to mention the Su-35 armed to the teeth).
    A longer video:
    Thx Very Happy
    I wish to see SU-35 hunting, and downing F-22. But courageous US decided to stop any US bombings, after Russia built up S-400, increase the SU-30 SM number. US seem to realize that they are not immunized against Russia's hardware. What a pity! I wished to see some F-22's wreckages on syrian's ground.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Isos on Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:21 pm

    nemrod wrote:
    mack8 wrote:Nice to see the R-77-1 being confirmed in service (not to mention the Su-35 armed to the teeth).
    A longer video:
    Thx Very Happy
    I wish to see SU-35 hunting, and downing F-22. But courageous US decided to stop any US bombings, after Russia built up S-400, increase the SU-30 SM number. US seem to realize that they are not immunized against Russia's hardware. What a pity! I wished to see some F-22's wreckages on syrian's ground.

    I would prefer to see some Typhoon's wreckages on Syrian's ground. I hate them. They always think that they are a great nation like US, China or Russia.

    http://theaviationist.com/2015/08/08/have-indian-su-30s-really-dominated-raf-typhoons-in-aerial-combat-with-a-12-0-scoreline-most-probably-not/
    (Read just Indian's part, the excuses about Typhoon are patethic) Twisted Evil

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:30 am

    2 more Su-35S delivered today

    http://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12078197@egNews


    So in total 42 birds till now?


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