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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Berkut on Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:46 pm

    Well, it depends how you count it but no, these are 47'th and 48'th serial frames and thus are completing the first contract. (they are red 21 and 22)

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  medo on Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:42 pm

    So this mean they equip 1 full squadron of Su-35S in Vladivostok. One squadron more and the second Su-35 regiment will be created.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:18 am

    RuAF to get 10 Su-35Ss in 2016 Oct-Nov

    https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/697864057248997376


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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:52 am

    Didnt Russia order an aditional 50? If so, 10 sounds off, no?  Or did they reduce production to also meet a Chinese and potential other customer demand?

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:56 am

    sepheronx wrote:Didnt Russia order an aditional 50? If so, 10 sounds off, no?  Or did they reduce production to also meet a Chinese and potential other customer demand?

    We never got real confirmation on that new order of 50 tho. But it might be the case that 10 will be delivered per year 2016, 17, 18, 19, 20... 5x10. Just a wild guess.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:03 am

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Didnt Russia order an aditional 50? If so, 10 sounds off, no?  Or did they reduce production to also meet a Chinese and potential other customer demand?

    We never got real confirmation on that new order of 50 tho. But it might be the case that 10 will be delivered per year 2016, 17, 18, 19, 20... 5x10. Just a wild guess.
    Makes sense.  The 10 they get this year would be dead giveaway since first contract is complete.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:12 am

    sepheronx wrote:Didnt Russia order an aditional 50? If so, 10 sounds off, no?  Or did they reduce production to also meet a Chinese and potential other customer demand?

    Yes. These 10 will be the first Su-35S that will be delivered in 2016 of that order (because we still wait the first order to be concluded)


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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Berkut on Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:36 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Didnt Russia order an aditional 50? If so, 10 sounds off, no?  Or did they reduce production to also meet a Chinese and potential other customer demand?

    ...

    And you expected them to get all 50 in 2016? Of course it is 10 per year.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:52 am

    Berkut wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Didnt Russia order an aditional 50? If so, 10 sounds off, no?  Or did they reduce production to also meet a Chinese and potential other customer demand?

    ...

    And you expected them to get all 50 in 2016? Of course it is 10 per year.
    Might I suggest rereading what I said? Never said that all 50 this year, quote me where I said that.  I figured though they could pump out a little more than 10.  But then I figured they will opt for other customers as well.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Berkut on Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:16 pm

    > Link specifically said 10 frames this year. 10 frames this year and 4 next years is not news.

    > You asked "why 10 and not 50" suggesting you expected to magically have 50 Su-35S' to be delivered this year or assumed that only 10 are ordered in follow up contract... None of which makes sense in any way.

    So yeah...

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:29 pm

    Berkut wrote:> Link specifically said 10 frames this year. 10 frames this year and 4 next years is not news.

    > You asked "why 10 and not 50" suggesting you expected to magically have 50 Su-35S' to be delivered this year or assumed that only 10 are ordered in follow up contract... None of which makes sense in any way.

    So yeah...
    Re read it again:
    "Didnt Russia order an aditional 50? If so, 10 sounds off, no?  Or did they reduce production to also meet a Chinese and potential other customer demand?"


    I guess I can see where it sounds like that but that isnt what I meant.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  mack8 on Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:13 pm

    Su-35 sorties/hours up to 18.02.2016 (translation aproximate)
    Azohen Bei @airforce.ru
    ...(for machines 0217..0220 on 01.28.2016):
    Su-35-2 - 568 h / 296 fly.
    01101 - 283 h / 188 fly.
    01102 - 277 h / 195 fly.
    01103 - 447 h / 225 fly.
    01204 - 564 h / 277 fly.
    01205 - 19 hours / 17 flight.
    01206 - 82 hours / 86 flight.
    01307 - 25 hours / 19 flight.
    01 308 - 79 h / 79 flight.
    01309 - 68 hours / 83 flight.
    01310 - 104 h / 115 fly.
    01411 - 136 h / 121 flight.
    01412 - 139 h / 113 fly.
    01413 - 91 hours / 78 flight.
    01514 - 172 h / 120 fly.
    01515 - 218 h / 123 flight.
    01516 - 270 h / 148 fly.
    01617 - 188 h / 147 fly.
    01618 - 167 h / 152 flight.
    01619 - 159 h / 120 fly.
    01620 - 128 h / 107 fly.
    02001 - 142 h / 104 flight.
    02002 - 154 h / 81 flight.
    02003 - 78 hours / 49 flight.
    02104 - 77 hours / 48 flight.
    02105 - 102 h / 65 flight.
    02106 - 83 hours / 56 flight.
    02207 - 109 h / 67 flight.
    02208 - 115 h / 78 flight.
    02209 - 3 hours / 4 flight.
    02310 - 0 h / 0 of flights.
    02 311 - 38 h / 32 flight.
    02312 - 46 hours / 42 flight.
    02413 - 67 hours / 39 flight.
    02414 - 81 hours / 66 flight.
    02 515 - 29 h / 27 flight.
    02 516 - 33 h / 22 flight.
    02 517 - 29 h / 21 flight.
    02 518 - 25 h / 17 flight.
    02 619 - 19 h / 14 flight.
    02 620 - 23 h / 16 flight.
    03001 - 9 hours / 3 flight.
    03002 - 14 hours / 6 flights.
    03003 - 3 hours / 2 landing.
    03104 - 3 hours / 2 landing.
    03105 - 3 hours / 2 landing.
    03106 - 3 hours / 2 landing.
    03207 - 0 h / 0 landings.
    03208 - 0 h / 0 landings.
    A decision on finalizing the 44 machines (0105..0308) at the end of the 1st phase of the ICG.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:42 pm

    New Su-35S regiment formed in Primorye


    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160301/1382327262.html

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:38 pm



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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  franco on Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:50 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:New Su-35S regiment formed in Primorye


    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160301/1382327262.html

    Unit now has 11 Su-35S's and they have declared the first squadron operational.
    This Regiment is scheduled to be a multi-type Fighter Regiment with a squadron each of Su-35S, Su-30SM and Mig-31BM. It is due to be completely re-equipped by the end of 2016.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Militarov on Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:01 pm

    "The success of Russia at the world war that Syria interested in the new weapons being tested by fire here, including Su-35 fighter. Vietnam is said to want to buy one squadron Su-35, according to the Kommersant newspaper. Financial columnist Kommersant said 28.3 days according to sources from the technical cooperation agency – Russian military (FSMTC), the agency recently has received many requests from Asian and African cacnuoc want to buy aircraft Russia’s new fighter, and the value of these contracts far exceeds the cost of Russian money for the war in Syria.

    FSMTC said in October 12.2015, the Algeria has ordered 12 fighter bomber Su-32 (export version of the Su-34), the minimum price of $ 600 million. Algeria also asked to be assigned 1 Su-35 fighters in Tamanrasset testing grounds for testing the aircraft and its equipment. Kommersant said that Algeria will buy at least 10 Su-35 and this contract at least 850-900 million.“Indonesia, Vietnam and Pakistan are interested in Su-35. Indonesia and Vietnam want to have Su-35 to supplement the Su-30MK2 aircraft fleet was ordered earlier. Jakarta said it would purchase 10 units, Hanoi is also in talks to buy up to 1 Su-35 fleet, “the source told Kommersant from FSMTC. A common fleet to 12 aircraft.

    Both contracts by Vietnam and Indonesia if the gain is worth billions of dollars per contract. Pakistan also ordered six planes Su-35 (worth about $ 500 million) . Not to mention the type of aircraft, other Russian weapons capability expressed through war Syria also attract international customers. That helicopter gunships Mi-28NE, transport aircraft Il-76 for Algeria, Ka-52 for Egypt, and particularly the T-90 is the Gulf countries are interested in following the event rebels Syria used the American TOW missile hit one tank T-90 of Syrian government troops without causing any harm to the increase both!

    Air defense missile system S-400 long-range is also being Saudi Arabia attention. The total value of the contract to buy new weapons, if achieved would be worth 6-7 billion dollars, so a bargain compared to the cost of 33 billion rubles ($ 480 million) that Russia pays for the war in Syria. In summary, after 6 months of the war in Syria, Russia has adopted the tactic of “an arrow down 2 bird”. It is a medium surface combat capability training of soldiers on the battlefield, where powerful demonstration of the new weapon to attract the attention of customers, according to Kommersant quoted a defense official."


    From what i am aware Russians dismissed claims that they negotiated SU35 sales with Pakistan.

    Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/vietnam-will-buy-the-new-russian-su-35-fighter.html

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Berkut on Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:44 pm

    Pakistan has not ordered Su-35S.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Militarov on Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:34 pm

    Berkut wrote:Pakistan has not ordered Su-35S.

    As i said Smile

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:21 am

    Su-35s at the airport Dzemgi in combat duty with missiles RVV-SD

    In the edition of "Military Acceptance" on the TV channel "Star" on April 3, 2016 were shown footage showing the Su-35s from the 23th Fighter Regiment, 303rd Guards Composite Air Division of the 11th Army Air Force and Air Defense of the Eastern Military District at the airport Dzemgi (Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Khabarovsk Territory), carrying on combat duty with suspended latest missiles "air - air" medium-range RVV-SD with active radar homing and located on the wingtips wing container complex productions jamming L-265M10 EW complex "Khibiny-M".

    Recall that the Su-35s from the 23th Fighter Wing at the airport Dzemgi first began to combat duty on air defense on December 25, 2015. The data initially fighters on alert in Dzemgi were armed only with missiles "air - air" of short-range R-73 and RVV-MD, and obsolete missiles R-27T medium-range missiles with infrared guidance system.

    For the first time RVV-SD were observed in four Su-35s, that had been transferred to Syria and to begin to combat duty at the airport Hmeymim since the beginning of February 2016. On the "Syrian" Su-35s for the first time, "lit up" containers and complex productions jamming L-265M10 EW complex "Khibiny-M".

    Based on the new TV show "Stars", Su-35S in Dzemgi on duty are the same basic structure of the suspension arms, as well as the Su-35S on Hmeymim - in the form of six missiles "air - air": two short-range R-73 (or RVV-MD), two medium-range R-27T and the two new medium-range RVV-SD.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Militarov on Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:43 pm



    Soo, some guy in Moldova placed advertisement online that he is selling "Multirole fighter Su-35" with this pic attached Very Happy Price is 85.000 euros Razz

    Source: https://www.facebook.com/Borbeni.Efektivi/

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  Austin on Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:42 pm

    Sorry I dont want to cross link this from other board but rather then copy pasting it thought would do justice linking it

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?134900-Rafale-news-amp-discussion-part-XVI&p=2308685#post2308685

    Rafale Sensor Fusion is Impressive , Thought would ask if Su-35 has any thing similar in Sensor Fusion ?

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    Post  Militarov on Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:02 pm

    Austin wrote:Sorry I dont want to cross link this from other board but rather then copy pasting it thought would do justice linking it

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?134900-Rafale-news-amp-discussion-part-XVI&p=2308685#post2308685

    Rafale Sensor Fusion is Impressive , Thought would ask if Su-35 has any thing similar in Sensor Fusion ?

    To certain extend only i am afraid. Russians are still to master real data fusion that West was very keen on developing last 2 decades. But they are getting better. Data fusion requires very fast data bus and some high end processors, many of them actually, hyper threading is the key. Naturally some high end programming too.

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    Re: Su-35S: News

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:16 pm

    No one actually knows of the data fusion on Su-35 or what computing it has. The Rafale talk sure sounds like marketing, but possibly true.

    @ militerov.
    You must be old. Hyperthreading is terrible compared to multicores. And even then, the Rafale computer would need a DPS cores or a overpowered processor to have the power to translate the data from various sensors in real time. Something Russia makes from at least two companies. Dunno if France does.

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