Syrian Civil War: News #4

Siempre_Leal wrote:2 Su-34s or Su-30s over Idlib

Seriously I can't tell the difference when they are in the air

Edit...Opens mouth, puts foot.

Sounds like the gains of the 'moderate ones' in South Aleppo have been reversed

Hezbollah Returns to Southern Aleppo With a Vengeance: Ja’eera, Tal Dadeen, and Tal Al-Bakara Captured
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/hezbollah-returns-to-southern-aleppo-with-a-vengeance-jaeera-tal-dadeen-and-tal-al-bakara-captured/

Now that's more like it....looks like a full Grad battery hitting the muja's at Al-Ghab/Latakia

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http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/israel-main-buyer-isis-oil-report/ri11633
Israel the Main Buyer of ISIS Oil — Report
Multiple reports claim that Israel is the top purchaser of smuggled ISIS oil

Citing multiple sources, the Israeli business press are now reporting that Israel is the main recipient of ISIS oil:

Kurdish and Turkish smugglers are transporting oil from ISIS controlled territory in Syria and Iraq and selling it to Israel, according to several reports in the Arab and Russian media. An estimated 20,000-40,000 barrels of oil are produced daily in ISIS controlled territory generating $1-1.5 million daily profit for the terrorist organization.

The oil is extracted from Dir A-Zur in Syria and two fields in Iraq[size=18pt] and transported to the Kurdish city of Zakhu[/size] in a triangle of land near the borders of Syria, Iraq and Turkey. Israeli and Turkish mediators come to the city and when prices are agreed, the oil is smuggled to the Turkish city of Silop marked as originating from Kurdish regions of Iraq and sold for $15-18 per barrel (WTI and Brent Crude currently sell for $41 and $45 per barrel) to the Israeli mediator, a man in his 50s with dual Greek-Israeli citizenship known as Dr. Farid. He transports the oil via several Turkish ports and then onto other ports, with Israel among the main destinations.


In August, the “Financial Times” reported that Israel obtained 75% of its oil supplies from Iraqi Kurdistan. More than a third of such exports go through the port of Ceyhan, which the FT describe as a “potential gateway for ISIS-smuggled crude.”
It's been well-established that Turkey is a major transportation hub for ISIS oil smuggling operations. But where is the oil sent? Someone has to buy it. The answer, apparently, is: Israel.

Al-Araby published an extensive investigation which lays out in detail how oil is transported from ISIS-controlled wells to Israel via Turkey.


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[size=12pt]Here comes again [size=18pt]Masud Barzani[/size] the regime of the Kurdish IRAQ exposed as medeators and transporters of the Mosul / ISIS oil. The Kurdish city of Zakhu is used as a hub for the transportation and trading the iSIS oil for 15-18 $ per barel. Barzani and the Iraqi Kurds are realy playing with fire..[/size]
[The oil is extracted from Dir A-Zur in Syria and two fields in Iraq and transported to the Kurdish city of Zakhu in a triangle of land near the borders of Syria, Iraq and Turkey. Israeli and Turkish mediators come to the city and when prices are agreed, the oil is smuggled to the Turkish city of Silop marked as originating from Kurdish regions of Iraq and sold for $15-18 per barrel (WTI and Brent Crude currently sell for $41 and $45 per barrel) to the Israeli mediator, a man in his 50s with dual Greek-Israeli citizenship known as Dr. Farid. He transports the oil via several Turkish ports and then onto other ports, with Israel among the main destinations.]

I dont understand why Russia does not fry destroy ,all the communications devices of the terrorist. Without communication the terrorist cannot organize an attack or know if Russia and Syrian army managed to enter through a part of the city..

Im in the believe that the so called counter electronics are way more limited than
advertised. or maybe it is Russia do not want to expose its technology too much for NATO
to see it?

IRAQ will also need to create a safe big corridor for Russian planes traveling from IRAN ,because
Americans will try to close the airpace of IRAQ to Russian planes ,thats the real aim of their troops on the ground. To create a new front against Syria with a safe zone for terrorist inside
IRAQ.

Siempre_Leal wrote:2 Su-34s or Su-30s over Idlib

Seriously I can't tell the difference when they are in the air

Bith, 1 Su-34 and 1 Su-30SM. The one with thiner nose and without ECM pods on the wings is Su-30SM. Su-34 also have bigger tail sting.

Vann7 wrote:

I dont understand why Russia does not fry destroy ,all the communications devices of the terrorist. Without communication the terrorist cannot organize an attack or know if Russia and Syrian army managed to enter through a part of the city..  

Im in the believe that the so called counter electronics are way more limited than
advertised. or maybe it is Russia do not want to expose its technology too much for NATO
to see it?

IRAQ will also need to create a safe big corridor for Russian planes traveling from IRAN ,because
Americans will try to close the airpace of IRAQ to Russian planes ,thats the real aim of their troops on the ground. To create a new front against Syria with a safe zone for terrorist inside
IRAQ.

Russians usually use ESM before using ECM. When you start getting jammed by Russian forces, very soon after, you get hard-killed.

They jammed them during the rescue op for the Su-24 co-pilot.

I think it's a safe bet that they do jam them on the tactical level, but I don't think it's done extensively

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Containment Policy

NATO enters Black Sea with three ships from Canada, Spain, and Portugal.

OminousSpudd wrote:NATO enters Black Sea with three ships from Canada, Spain, and Portugal.

A US Arleigh Burke class destroyer went in a couple of days ago.

OminousSpudd wrote:NATO enters Black Sea with three ships from Canada, Spain, and Portugal.

So what is the purpose of these NATO vessels in the Black Sea?
It's not like they are near Syria.

Provide moral comfort to "U crying"

How Russia is smashing the Turkish game in Syria


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/324563-isis-russia-turkey-syria/

Erk wrote:

OminousSpudd wrote:NATO enters Black Sea with three ships from Canada, Spain, and Portugal.

So what is the purpose of these NATO vessels in the Black Sea?
It's not like they are near Syria.

This is more American arrogance , to provoke Russia ,like saying we are here and
we have an alliance ,and came to threaten your security and to support Turkey.

In reality if a major war start between Russia and Turkey all those plane will leave more faster
than light..and Americans too.. run away for fear of being retaliated for supporting turkey.

They're really bringing the tools this time.

https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/672779469585784833

This is the secular Syria that Obama and its coalition wants to destroy ..
St. Barbara Celebrations in Old Homs , today..





and this is what Obama and NATO wants to see in Syria..



A nation of morons and ignorants ,that do not have any policy and their
entire lives is ruled by a takfiri islamic ruler .  THis is because an educated
society with freedom oppose Tyranny and demand respect for their nation sovereignty.  

US sponsor radical non secular ISlam.. a barbaric society that is slave of its rulers ,this is what attract so many terrorist to Syria because is a really secular nation and Religion is not mixed with politics. and full freedom of religion.  the western powers hates christianity and want it out
of the middle east..This is why Morsi was kicked from Egypt..

PapaDragon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

That is a high calorie baby milk right there!!!  

They're really bringing the tools this time.

https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/672779469585784833

Writers have a name for this:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacrossMissileMassacre

https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/672796235762434048

Tap, tap, boom.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

That is a high calorie baby milk right there!!!  

They're really bringing the tools this time.

https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/672779469585784833

Writers have a name for this:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacrossMissileMassacre

https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/672796235762434048

Tap, tap, boom.

Fatal mistake, second wave has to be done with OFABs

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:



That is a high calorie baby milk right there!!!  

They're really bringing the tools this time.

https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/672779469585784833

Writers have a name for this:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacrossMissileMassacre

https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/672796235762434048

Tap, tap, boom.

Fatal mistake, second wave has to be done with OFABs

Interesting that there is a fire crew there, so can't be in the middle of nowhere. Can't see the point of using water, in an earlier video they were at least using foam, and it worked. Why on earth would they try to save already burnt out trucks.

JohninMK wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:



That is a high calorie baby milk right there!!!  

They're really bringing the tools this time.

https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/672779469585784833

Writers have a name for this:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacrossMissileMassacre

https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/672796235762434048

Tap, tap, boom.

Fatal mistake, second wave has to be done with OFABs

Interesting that there is a fire crew there, so can't be in the middle of nowhere. Can't see the point of using water, in an earlier video they were at least using foam, and it worked. Why on earth would they try to save already burnt out trucks.

You never know, maybe they had firetruck escorting column, i its done here in military sometimes when sensitive fluids are being transported. And well...water wont help you much aganist blazing fuels, especially not gasoline. When its about why are they trying to save them...weeell....id do my best if i had couple dozen of very angry ISIS/FSA guys watching me try. If you know what i mean.

Militarov wrote:

You never know, maybe they had firetruck escorting column, i its done here in military sometimes when sensitive fluids are being transported. And well...water wont help you much aganist blazing fuels, especially not gasoline. When its about why are they trying to save them...weeell....id do my best if i had couple dozen of very angry ISIS/FSA guys watching me try. If you know what i mean.

Looks like crude in the trucks. I doubt much refined stuff gets very far from the refineries they have. Petrol would have made a pretty impressive bang!

Get totally what you say about 'having' to do something.

JohninMK wrote:

Militarov wrote:

You never know, maybe they had firetruck escorting column, i its done here in military sometimes when sensitive fluids are being transported. And well...water wont help you much aganist blazing fuels, especially not gasoline. When its about why are they trying to save them...weeell....id do my best if i had couple dozen of very angry ISIS/FSA guys watching me try. If you know what i mean.

Looks like crude in the trucks. I doubt much refined stuff gets very far from the refineries they have. Petrol would have made a pretty impressive bang!

Get totally what you say about 'having' to do something.

Its probably crude oil i agree, i just pointed out that gasoline is very hard to deal with if you have only water available, coz i once saw "small" 1000l tank catching fire, it was maybe half full and we had only two hand held foam bottles and water... after short encounter with fire we just let it burn.