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    Syrian Civil War: News #3

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    Post  ultron Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:22 pm

    Dima wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:T-72B near Palmyra
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    Can you post the link to this video?
    Is it the same tank we saw being readied to be shipped to Syria recently?

    Yes because these are green not desert colored. Link is below.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:14 pm

    Dima wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:T-72B near Palmyra

    Can you post the link to this video?
    Is it the same tank we saw being readied to be shipped to Syria recently?
    A bit unlikely its the actual same tank. Maybe from the same batch or from other deliveries.

    There is a huge amount of 'stuff' almost certainly including tanks, now transshipping on the highly upcapacitied Syrian Express. Only the highest value or most needed 'stuff' will be airlifted, the rest will be on the ships. That must include large amounts of munitions given the dramatically higher usage of all types of the same across the whole air/ground front since the start of October.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:40 pm

    Whatz the problem with upgrading a/c that have been in use for 4 years?

    I'm assuming they're pretty worn out and they've been flying for much more than 4 years, although the last few years a lot more intensively

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    SAA and allies - Southern Aleppo province


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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:11 am

    Hmmm....Pretty significant if they take Hadher and cut the nearby road to Aleppo...it's the main stronghold in the area

    UNCONFIRMED Reports #SAA #NDF have entered southern Neighborhoods of #Hadher

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 29 CTWaVaZXIAATpM3
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    2 more pics
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTWaVcuXIAAkYzg.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTWaVcvXIAAvErb.jpg


    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/663606213863677952

    and a couple more fresh headlines...

    ISIS Prevents Civilians in East Aleppo from Fleeing as the Syrian Army Advances on the Kuweires Airport
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-prevents-civilians-in-east-aleppo-from-fleeing-as-the-syrian-army-advances-on-the-kuweires-airport/


    Syrian Army Prepares for Massive Offensive in the Islamist Rebel Stronghold of Salma
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-prepares-for-massive-offensive-in-the-islamist-rebel-stronghold-of-salma/
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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:51 am

    Seems like the Jihadis might have abandoned Hadher  Question

    Syrian Army and Hezbollah Reclaim Talaylat Before Entering the Strategic City of Al-Hadher in Southern Aleppo
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-and-hezbollah-reclaim-talaylat-before-entering-the-strategic-city-of-al-hadher-in-southern-aleppo/

    ...


    A bunch of photos of Iraqi Shia militias....apparently flown over by RuAF Il-76's

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    Harakat Hezbollah al-Nujaba Drag Dead Militant Body with a Vehicle. #SouthernAleppo #Southern_Aleppo  
    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/663612067727941632


    Few more here https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:57 am

    Take it as read then.

    Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter has promised to send more American troops into Syria “if the US can find more ‘capable’ local forces to partner with in the fight against ISIL”; His comments to ABC News arrive just days after President Obama authorized the deployment of a small contingent into the country. "If we find additional groups that are willing to fight ISIL and are capable and motivated, we'll do more. The president has indicated a willingness to do more, I certainly am prepared to recommend he do more, but you need to have capable local forces; that's the key to sustainable victory," ABC News quotes Carter as saying this week during an interview aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt in the South China Sea.

    On October 30, President Obama authorized the deployment of up to 50 commandoes to be stationed in northern Syria “to advise and assist” in the fight against ISIL.

    Two small US teams are supposed to assess the security situation on the ground and coordinate with local Syrian forces in the country. "What they are doing there is they are enabling local forces, a mixture of Kurds and Syrian Arabs, who want to fight ISIL. So this small, very elite group, is intended to bring to bear all that the US can bring to bear, in the way of intelligence, air power and so forth, to help these motivated, capable local forces," Carter told ABC News. "And this is an instance of the whole strategy. We have to beat ISIL. We will beat ISIL. ISIL's heart is in Syria and Iraq."

    The news channel however admits that “circumstances may force American soldiers into combat situations.” It recalls that Master Sergeant Joshua L. Wheeler was killed during a raid in Iraq last month. The US defense chief acknowledged the possibility that there could be other such incidents. "It wasn't [Wheeler's] mission to conduct the assault; it was his mission to support the assault. But when he saw the assault get into trouble, he sprang into action. Now that wasn't part of his mission statement, but it was a reflection of tremendous personal heroism on his part," Carter said. "We're sending them into a dangerous situation and it can develop into a combat situation as it did with Joshua Wheeler."

    However, the US officials previously emphasized that the US presence will remain narrow in scope and not resemble the large-scale troop deployments of past US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151109/1029800541/us-carter-syria-troops.html#ixzz3qzU4UYHC
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    Post  arpakola Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:28 pm

    International Military Review - Syria-Iraq Battlespace, Nov. 8, 2015


    SAA MORTAR direct hit on ISIS || SYRIA WAR || 07.11.2015 || HD
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:32 pm

    arpakola wrote:...............................
    SAA MORTAR direct hit on ISIS || SYRIA WAR || 07.11.2015 || HD

    Got myself a new ringtone Twisted Evil
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    Post  wilhelm Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:43 pm

    Heeheeheehee clown
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    Post  Solncepek Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:52 pm

    Breaking : SAA Tiger Forces are expected to enter Kuwires Airbase any minute now

    I hope tonight we will see the first photos of this great victory cheers
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:23 pm

    wilhelm wrote:Heeheeheehee clown
    Why on earth do they upload disasters (to them at least) like this? I am sure it is not so that the rest of us can have a smile.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:25 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    wilhelm wrote:Heeheeheehee clown
    Why on earth do they upload disasters  (to them at least) like this? I am sure it is not so that the rest of us can have a smile.

    Dunno, maybe they expect sympathy? Good luck with that though... Razz
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    Post  Dima Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:28 pm

    Great news if true  thumbsup

    I was expecting them to make contact with their comrades inside Kuweries airbase by this weekend. Seems like the jihadist defense lines has collapsed.


    This was the situation map yesterday, but not sure if it was the latest?
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    Post  Dima Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:36 pm

    Btw, its hard even for the hardcore west to ignore that President Assad has support of all sections of the Syrian society and not just the Alawites....so an article to touch upon the Sunni forces fighting for the Syrian Govt with their own spin.

    "motivated by fear or simply for lack of a better alternative, many Sunnis remain on the government’s side"
    Assad’s Sunni Foot Soldiers

    Russia and Iran's intervention in Syria gets all the attention, but many in the country’s majority sect are still fighting for the government. They may hold the key to Syria’s future.


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    Post  Dima Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:54 pm

    Some more updates from Twitter....hope we'll get confirmation of the progress on Kuweries airbase from http://sana.sy/en/ or from http://almasdarnews.com/


    https://twitter.com/MilitaryMaps
    MilitaryMaps ‏@MilitaryMaps 2h2 hours ago

    “@PetoLucem: NEW MAP: #SAA is about to break #IslamicState siege of #Kuweyres airbase. #Aleppo #Syria ”
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    SAA have also progressed well along the perimeter of Lake Jabbul.
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    Post  Dima Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:11 pm

    This is an earlier update from today

    https://twitter.com/Gjoene
    The profile pic in this twitter account is that of a brave young SAA lad from Latakia moments before he and his collegue was shot.

    Joene ‏@Gjoene 5h5 hours ago

    After capture of Sheikh Ahmad, #SAA Tiger Forces are advancing in Kuweires Sharqi toward #Aleppo-#Raqqa Highway
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    Post  Solncepek Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:35 pm

    Why in Syria killed so many generals and officers of the Iran's elite units?

    As it became known, on November 7 in Aleppo, Syria under in combat with insurgents killed the general of the Revolutionary Guards of Iran Ali Shaliakar. And this is not the first Iranian military commander who was killed in the SAR during the conflict.

    Tehran claimed that Iranian experts provide assistance to the Government of Syria solely consultative. However, reports from the fronts and statistics of losses over the past two months (only on open sources) tells a different story. Judge for yourself.

    - 4-5 November in Syria killed five officers of the IRGC, the names of three known - Mohsen Fanus Kadir Silk and Ruhollah Kadrani;

    - November 3, according to Iran.ru, in the battles of Aleppo killed five commanders of the IRGC - Seid Ali Alami, Izzat Suleiman Hamid Fatimi, Sajjad Hussein and Asadullah Soleimani;

    - 24 October in Syria's northern province of Hama killed Brigadier General Revolutionary Guard Reza Hawari;

    - October 23 at Aleppo killed a bodyguard of the former Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a senior commander of the Revolutionary Guards Abdollah Bakeri Niyaraki. It was reported that he supported the commanders of the armed forces of the official Damascus and helped them to plan military operations against the radical "Islamic state";

    - October 18, Iranian media reported that in the city of Ahwaz Funeral IRGC Brigadier Jabbar Darisavi killed in the performance of duty in Syria. It was noted that General Darisavi before sending an adviser to Syria was the commander of troops "Basij" in the Iranian province of Khuzestan.

    - 13 October in Syria killed two Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander Farshad Gasunizade and Hamid Mohtarbans;

    - 9 October on the outskirts of the city of Aleppo killed Iranian Revolutionary Guards Major General Hussein Hamdani. A senior military was in Syria as an advisor to the government and as one of the leaders of the operations of the elite unit of the Iranian "Al-Quds" (the experts call it the analogue of our GRU) in support of the Syrian government of Bashar al-Assad.

    We note that recently commander of special forces, "Al-Quds" IRGC Qasem Soleimani, speaking to Iranian militants fighting in Syria, said that "Aleppo will be released at any cost, however high it may be." According to the Kurdish press, Soleimani reportedly said: "Iran's top management had ordered the release of Aleppo, even if it takes 100 thousand martyrs."

    Why Syria killed many generals and officers (of course, this list - is far from complete)?

    Professor of the Department of Oriental Studies of MGIMO Sergei Iranist Druzhilovsky notes that the eastern army different from the western mainly to the fact that the first important factor is faith.

    - In the Islamic tradition, the Prophet Muhammad's grandson - Imam Hussein - is the title of "master of the martyrs" (in Iran - "the master of martyrs", as they say the Orientalists, the term "martyr" has been stained with the blood of innocent victims of the efforts of the Wahhabis). And the man who died for their faith, instantly likened to Imam Hussein, he became a national hero. For example, in Iran, even in taxis and shops can be found portraits of those who died in the Iran-Iraq war. But there are also people often leave advantageous firing positions and went on Iraqi positions in full growth.

    Iranian generals can not sit deep in the rear. It is in our best not meet the brigade commander that from a military point of view - the correct and reasonable. But Iranian general must necessarily be in the spotlight. Considering that the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, and the more "Al-Quds" - special forces as part of the IRIS - an elite unit of random people out there in the general's office not appointed.

    All of them, there is no doubt, professionals and proved his right to be a general, but primarily because they have to honor the principle - "do as I do." Iranians are generally charged for victory at any cost. For example, when the Ayatollah Khomeini in August 1988 agreed to the termination of the war with Iraq, he said this decision was difficult for him - "how to drink a cup of poison."

    In addition, the cause of death of Iranian officers and generals may be that they do a lot parade, competing with each other. For example, if one went to battle with advanced units, the second military commander may also decide on such a move, even if there is no military necessity.

    On the side of the government troops are fighting al-Assad and IRGC units, and "Hezbollah" and the militia they support Russian aircraft, and would seem to progress on all parts of the front has to go every day, but there is - it is the result of weak. But the enemy from them - not whipping boys, and the people who are fighting for a long time. Several times since the Afghan. They just do not take a psychological attack, they themselves full of men who are willing to demonstrate such behavior in combat.

    Plus, the Islamists are supported constantly: in the Saudi and Qatari money thrown them American, French, Israeli weapons and equipment, and at the same Iranians under the sanctions, there was little opportunity to replenish stockpiles. They, of course, has its own military-industrial complex - the only one in the Middle East, apart from Israel, but it does not have any modern gadgets such as laser guidance, and so on. D.

    - Experts on different assessments of the Iranian military involvement in Syria. Someone says that Assad is fighting on the side of not less than three teams IRGC, someone notices that finding the division immediately be noticeable on a particular sector of the front ...

    - Yes, to assess the extent of their involvement in the Syrian conflict is extremely difficult. In general, the Iranians say that if necessary, they are willing to put up a 20-million-strong army. Data on the number of Iranian Armed Forces closed, but in total (in the military system of the Iranian army and IRGC coexist, and they have their own army, air force and navy) - about 1 million people. Plus "Basij" - people's militia, founded by Ayatollah Khomeini in November 1979, which has become almost one of the branches of the armed forces of the IRGC (Commander of the "Basij" reports directly to the commander in chief of the IRGC and through operationally Chief of the General Staff of Iran and the High Commander ). Given that Iran's population - 80 million. People, it can be said that the manpower of its extremely high.

    Another thing is that Tehran will not get involved in the conflict in full, it has its "red lines". For example, they will not take Karbala in Iraq, as it is - a holy city for Shiites: here is the tomb of Imam Hussein. In addition, the total Iranian interference in the war in Syria further undermine the position of Bashar Assad, because then everyone in the West will be screaming that he could not do anything in the country, but the Iranians - able. Again swell some new story. Therefore, Tehran prefers in this conflict their participation especially not to advertise.

    Deputy Director of the Institute of Political and Military Analysis Alexander Khramchikhin says there are several reasons for the mass death of Iranian brigadier generals, including - shahidstva factor.

    - Syria has advanced everywhere - so there is likely to die in any place large enough. But do not ignore the deficiencies in the system of command and control. I must say that the Iranians - not the best soldiers in the world. During the Iran-Iraq conflict, Tehran fought mainly by zavalivanija enemy corpses and won by a huge superiority in manpower. And who said that they are now something has changed for the better? Absolutely nothing. Even despite the fact that the Syrian conflict is only the Iranian elite fighting formation.

    Also worth noting is that the "Brigadier General" - a title that has no analogues in Russia, something between a colonel and major general. This initial rank of general in a number of armies in the world, that is - senior officers.

    Military expert, head of Eurasian integration and development of the SCO CIS Institute Vladimir Yevseyev sure: despite the fact that Iran has paid much attention to his army and Revolutionary Guards, Iran's elite units but not particularly strong in terms of the conduct of combined arms combat with artillery and aviation.

    - Apparently, it's safe to say that in Syria there are three teams IRGC. In my view, the figure of 15 thousand soldiers - is plausible. And with such a degree of involvement in the Syrian conflict deaths of officers possible. This is the first.

    Second, the IRGC generals serve as advisors at the Syrian brigades. They are forced to go on reconnaissance in the conditions of inability to provide reliable protection.

    Third, because the officers and generals of the Revolutionary Guards act as advisers, it can not be excluded that they are under deliberate hunting. Rather, "the wind blows" on the part of the main sponsors of the militants in Syria - Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other stakeholders. In my opinion, this is indeed possible, as the mass death of officers and generals still looks very suspicious. So, in January of this year as a result of the Israeli Air Force attack in Syria was killed General of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, Mohammad Aliullov DAAD.

    Fourth: the combat capability of the Iranian army as a whole is not very high. Anyway, when we were fighting for Tikrit in Iraq in the spring of this year, killing many Iranian soldiers it is due to the fact that they had no experience of combined arms combat. My personal opinion - the level of training of Iranians lower than the Lebanese soldiers supported by Tehran "Hezbollah." Therefore, Iran has the great losses in Syria.

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    A few years ago, "Al-Quds" for employs about 15 thousand people. But, experts say, probably for the last few years the elite formation was increased by the corresponding directions. "Al-Quds" consists of eight different departments, which are fixed for certain regions of the world. Including - and for covert operations. This is the Western countries; Iraq; Afghanistan, Pakistan and India; Israel, Lebanon and Jordan; Turkey; North Africa; countries of the Arabian Peninsula; former republics of the Soviet Union.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:02 pm

    Question for mod's George1 and GarryB...Is it possible to rename this thread into a more accurate title? Syria is undergoing a foreign insurgency, the overwhelming amount of the Syrian population (including the Sunni practitioners) support the Govt., and a invasion of Chechen, Somalian, Pakistani, Libyan, Saudi, Jordanian, Egyptian, Algerian, Afghani, Turkish, Lebanese, Chinese Uigur, etc., etc. Wahabbi/Salafi terror mercenaries hardly qualify as a domestic Syrian people uprising. It gives off the illusion that the Western analysis of the Syrian Conflict has any validity.

    I highly suggest the name be changed to "Syrian Conflict: Counter-insurgency News".
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:29 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Question for mod's George1 and GarryB...Is it possible to rename this thread into a more accurate title? Syria is undergoing a foreign insurgency, the overwhelming amount of the Syrian population (including the Sunni practitioners) support the Govt., and a invasion of Chechen, Somalian, Pakistani, Libyan, Saudi, Jordanian, Egyptian, Algerian, Afghani, Turkish, Lebanese, Chinese Uigur, etc., etc. Wahabbi/Salafi terror mercenaries hardly qualify as a domestic Syrian people uprising. It gives off the illusion that the Western analysis of the Syrian Conflict has any validity.

    I highly suggest the name be changed to "Syrian Conflict: Counter-insurgency News".

    Aggree, do not fall for western propaganda newspeech methods of "Pro-Russians in Ukraine or Putin's Rebels", Freedom fighters, dictators, regimes and so on. Syria is a more legitimate government than any western government is, they have far higher approval ratings while non in the EU was elected which is an one-party dictatorship where oligarchs vote for themselfs.

    Please change the title, thx.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:32 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Question for mod's George1 and GarryB...Is it possible to rename this thread into a more accurate title? Syria is undergoing a foreign insurgency, the overwhelming amount of the Syrian population (including the Sunni practitioners) support the Govt., and a invasion of Chechen, Somalian, Pakistani, Libyan, Saudi, Jordanian, Egyptian, Algerian, Afghani, Turkish, Lebanese, Chinese Uigur, etc., etc. Wahabbi/Salafi terror mercenaries hardly qualify as a domestic Syrian people uprising. It gives off the illusion that the Western analysis of the Syrian Conflict has any validity.

    I highly suggest the name be changed to "Syrian Conflict: Counter-insurgency News".

    x2
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:06 pm

    Still around 50% of all insurgents killed in Syria are Syrians. This isn't a foreign invasion any more than the German intervention in Spanish Civil War was an invasion of Spain.

    Islamism itself, in most variants, is fiercely internationalist and sees national identity as a disease that has to be eradicated. Syrian islamsits do not perceive themselves as Syrians first - they are Muslims first.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:13 pm

    Proven - less than 2km left to Kweires (how many soldiers are trapped there BTW?)
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    Forces look ridiculously overstretched though. I hope they secure their flanks well.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:15 pm

    More islamophobia... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Solncepek Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:20 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Proven - less than 2km left to Kweires (how many soldiers are trapped there BTW?
    550-650 to my knowledge...

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