Syrian Civil War: News #3

Regular wrote:
I wonder who is in control Syrian operations? Did Iran take all into their hands?

Syria do advances in near all fronts and lose territory in homs and suddenly they are a failure?


Is obvious you are not a military man ,because knows nothing how wars happens. You never
win every day in all fronts.. sometimes you win ,something you lose. The Rebels that you believe
are alone ,receive logistic ,weapons and assistance from NATO special forces. In Homs alone in 2012 many dozens of French special forces where captured. There are American special forces and Israeli too fighting with ISIS..Turkey army is on Idlib with tanks. dude stop complaining is a world war what Syria is facing. So is not an easy fight of civilians that took sticks and stones to fight an Army. ISIS even using chemical weapons provided by Turkey.  US, TUrkey,Jordan,ISrael ,and Saudi Arabia ,Qatar and France and UK are all fighting against the Syrian Army their forces are in the dozen of thousands..  Syria Army needs to spread in many
battle fronts at same time.. LAtakia,Aleppo ,Idlib ,hama, Homs ,damascus ,deirsur ,palmyra ,Dara. IRan do not send more than a couple thousand fighters volunteers without tanks or planes. So is basically Syrian Airforce + hezbolah and Russia airforce help Vs NATO major powers and Gulf allies. If you had any knowledge of how wars happens.. you will just relax and wait , they are never over until the last bullet  fired.  but just to give you a quick example..
what happens in real world ..in real wars.. not fantasy hollywood where americans always win.

Take a look at the Korean war..




Red color are North korea first and later last year China joined. Green Forces.. and impressive
coalition of US ,UK ,Turkey ,France,Australia ,Canada..South Korea , the core of NATO the best armies in the world with the best weapons ,Air superiority ,Navy superiority and tanks and artillery superiority too. Vs Semi naked soldiers using mostly rifles ,grenades and mines and low caliber mobile mortars...and with ambush tactics.. but with a lot of determination to win.

North Korean nearly wipe South Korea+ americans and allies forces and conquer all korean peninsula.. then NATO reinforcements came and push N koreans all the way to China border almost conquering all the peninsula.. then China invade and push american back to the line where war started and again push and cover 30% more land from the south .. and then retreat to were the war began... nazy Germany invasion of Russia..  very easily captured huge territory but later stalled and pushed back.Territory on its own is not what win wars.. but causing the enemy irreparable loses instead is what win wars.

Again..Capturing territory means SHIT.. that says nothing about the outcome of any war.
Shuting down enemy supply lines ,and encircling them is far better and more important than
capturing empty land. good for nothing.

They found a weak spot. Apparently there was only a NDF checkpoint at Mahin.

Map of the Damascus-Aleppo Road...circles are where the fighting is going on therefore preventing traffic/supplies going to government areas of Aleppo, which where the rats are under pressure

Look at this moron ..from twitter..

ora et labora ‏@themaze_swimmer  2h2 hours ago
@IvanSidorenko1 wonder why ISIS advance in spite of Putin? Another miscalculation of a "great" power?

Remembers me some people in this forums.. They completely ignore Terrorist do not have any
rules or any limitation on how to fight their war.. and can use any tactic ,suicide bombers ,civilians as human shield and have safe zones across borders ,cannot be bombed in Turkey or Israel..or Jordan to shutdown their bases and camps..and supply lines.. Russia can't neither shot down american planes dropping cargo and weapons to ISIS....While Russia needs to follow something called " RUles of engagement. "   , needs to fight clean , and care for civilians ,not bomb mosques and cannot bomb terrorist if civilians near.  All those things will dramatically
slow down the pace of the war .   But if Russia wanted to wipe the terrorist and did not cared
about civilians ,or what the international community says..or did not cared about sanctions.. it will simply drop tactical nukes in the zones controlled by Rebels..and win the war in a couple of hours by completely nuking. it could also warn Turkey and Israel  and US gov with being nuked if continue supporting ISIS and alqaeda to overthrow Assad. But so far Russia can't do that..
and needs to play clean to the advantage of the terrorist that have no rules and follow no ethics.
terrorist controlled zones.. NATo also supply the terrorist with radar and logistics when Russian planes or Syrian airforce is near the terrorist positions.. so they go and hide in their tunnels.

What Russia should do to mujahids is do exactly what the Allies did to Germany and Japan. Vanmoose.

SAA are within 2.5 km of Kuweires AB.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/cheetah-forces-enter-rural-sheikh-ahmad-en-route-to-the-kuweires-airport-2500-meters-left/

GarryB wrote:

ISIS is slaughtering tens of thousands of Christians in Sadad. Shocked  Russia MUST deploy ground forces to Syria to fight ISIS. SAA is simply incompetent or they don't give a damn about their own country.

If ISIS is killing tens of thousands of christians then let the christian west send in ground forces.

The comments about dropping nukes is just silly... whether it is starting WWIII in Korea or killing the people you are claiming to save in Syria... some people need to grow up.

You want to execute all Sunnis then you are no better than ISIS.

Im not suggesting the use of nukes.. Just explaining that the Terrorist side.. ie. (US,ISIS,ALqaeda,Turkey,Saudi Arabia) they have very little limitations and can fight
in any way they want. ie.. Chemical weapons or bomb hospitals and no being held accounted.
The so called "Rebels" that obama support can bomb civilians and the Russian embassy and not a single condemnation . THey have no rules.. so they can use any illegal tactic , like poison a lake and kill million or use chemical weapons.. dont need to follow any rule.

But Russia needs to follow Rules of engament And not bomb cities with people ,
and neither bomb Mosques used as weapons storage for fear of creating bad image with
its own muslin community in Russia. ISIS and Obama moderates can use civilians as human shields ,childrens on top of tanks to make it more difficult for any fight against them.. in short
Terrorist have no rules..they even have safe zones that Russia cannot bomb.. in border nations of Syria and Russia needs to fight with hundreds of rules that significantly limits their capabilities to fight the terrorist. and make it much more slower.

all this Correctness and rules plays always in favor of western powers and their sponsored terrorist. Just last week US airforce bombed a Power plant that was vital for Syrians water
and heat. So the bad guys don't play with any rules ,with any morals  and the good guys needs to follow international laws.  

And for your information many of the Sunnis in Idlib are friendly to ISIS and ALqaeda. Same with Eastern Goutha..Is a religious conflict that is fueled by abroad wiht the money and weapons of US and its coalition.  SO yes if the only way to save 20 millions of secular Syrians is
to wipe towns or zones where people cooperate with terrorism.. so be it.  Otherwise as soon the
zone is cleared from armed terrorist.. those same civilians will continue helping Alqaeda and ISIS to take control of their cities.. THis happened is the small region of Jobar in Damascus and Raqqa..in northen Syria that Terrorist took control of it..without firing a single shot.

The time for Syria is not endless and if the only way to stop Terrorism is to get rid also of civilians who also cooperate with them then im all for it. is about saving a 97% of the Syrian population. from a 3% that is corrupted and brainwashed and that continues offering help to
terrorism. I just saw a video on RT.. of a so called " Civilian" ,2 womens in jihab in damascus
that were firing mortars on Damascus populated zones to kill civilians. What happens in Syria
goes beyond the common logic and understanding. Is a religious sectarian war and ISIS And Alqaeda receive a LOT of support from civilian population. Just 10,000 "civilians" who took guns and were helping ISIS surrender last week.. How the Syrian Government will know they will not return to terrorism? if they allowed to be free? Is terrorism and its face can be any. With children you have a chance to correct them.. but adults who are brainwashed can be impossible.

There are few thousand of womens but also elder people ,that help ISIS and other terrorist groups to commit crimes. Not only to shoot against Syrian army.. but also helps to kill civilians
who help the government. Just saw one story of a "normal family" that offered her daughter as prostitute to ISIS. The stereotypes you have in the west about what is a civilian or not ,about morals ,do not always work in Syria.. Is a religious sectarian war and that is fueled by western major powers and border countries of Syria.. and the face of terrorist can be any. Syrian government himself have told that Sunni womens friendly to Terrorist plays a major role
in terrorism by hiding bombs under their clothing and exploding it in business centers in Syria killing hundreds of civilians. Lets not forget about the young girl in Russia that detonated a bomb inside a train station in Russia.. killing herself and a hundred of people. In Short Islamic terrorism bypass any stereotype and "normal civilians" can ally with terrorism too.. and usually they are the ones that commit the major crimes.. since their appearance of being normal citizens ,(not beardies males of combat age) . allows them to infiltrate better inside
Syrian Government controlled cities.

Saving as many civilians as possible is what Russia should do..but if at any time the opportunity show up to kill hundreds or thousands of terrorist.. then they should do it.. not matter the place the are..or the risk of collateral damage to civilians . Wars are never clean and never will be.
specially when terrorist use civilians as human shields.

Militarov wrote:

Militarov, were did you get these charts?

Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1 8h8 hours ago

#Syria #Homs #حمص Situation of #Mahin and what happened #SAA #NDF #SyrianArmy vs #ISIS #IS #IslamicState




Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1 8h8 hours ago

#Syria #Homs #حمص Report about Situation of #Mahin which had 0 #SAA inside the village. Only a Checkpoint outside.

Re: the alleged slaughter of Christians we don't have any news from Sadad in the past few hours....I don't think they've taken it atm since reinforcements have been sent.

ISIS's strenghth seems to be their mobility since AFAIK, they don't really have a lot of firepower at their disposal. They are able to move around mobile strike groups around the desert quickly and strike at weak points in the rear causing panicky reports like this Mihin situation....they used similar tactics in Iraq as well.

It's not an easy tactic to counter considering that the SAA doesn't have the required manpower to heavily garrison all areas...so we'll probably see more of this in the coming days/weeks

...

Anyway, fresh news form Latakia front

Just got word moments ago: 103rd Brigade of the Republican Guard is storming Ghannam in northern Latakia
https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/660690215745400832

Breaking: Syrian Army launches surprise military operation at Ghannam in northern Latakia
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-launches-surprise-military-operation-at-ghannam-in-northern-latakia/

Zivo wrote:SAA are within 2.5 km of Kuweires AB.

The relief force should be visible from the base if true

An article on the Sadad situation

Christian Town in East Homs Faces a Deadly Threat from ISIS
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/christian-town-in-east-homs-faces-a-deadly-threat-from-isis/

And on the increasing use of Fagot ATGM's...summary of a Arab article

It includes an interview with an official with Jaish al-Nasr. The article says Jaish al-Nasr started as an operations room and coalesced into a single faction.

The official says the rebels captured a large amount of Fagot missiles during the Idlib and Al-Ghab battles throughout the past few months, but did not have launchers. The Friends of Syria alliance recently sent them launchers as well as more Fagot missiles. They also sent the rebels night-telescopes for these missiles. He says the Jaish al-Nasr rebels were able to destroy more than ten targets at night using Fagot missiles during the recent battles.

It also has an interview with Abu Omar TOW. He says the Fagot missile is very portable and can be carried on shoulders or on a motorcycle while the TOW needs to be transported by car. He also says he had little experience with Fagot missiles, but he was given training in one of the Friends of Syria countries on how to use them. He also received training on how to deal with low-flying helicopters with ATGMs.

I had noticed an uptick in Fagot missile strikes, and the explanation is that rebel backers are sending them launchers for what they had captured and sent them further missiles. They also provided training on how to use other ATGM systems, not just TOWs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/3r1n9c/arabic_article_explaining_the_increase_in_9k111/

GarryB wrote:
If ISIS is killing tens of thousands of christians then let the christian west send in ground forces.

The West is not Christian and Syrian Christians are Orthodox Christians which the West generally hates. The West has always sided with the Muslims against Orthodox Christian, be it Kosovo, Bosnia, Chechnya or the Middle East.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

GarryB wrote:
If ISIS is killing tens of thousands of christians then let the christian west send in ground forces.

The West is not Christian and Syrian Christians are Orthodox Christians which the West generally hates. The West has always sided with the Muslims against Orthodox Christian, be it Kosovo, Bosnia, Chechnya or the Middle East.

This.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Syria should do everything to limit number of Sunni Arabs in post-war Syria - including use of mass terror on Sunni civilians.

Vann - dropping one nuke on PRC would be enough to make it withdraw from Korea. PLA's successess all came during the first stage of the war when UN forces were caught off guard. As you can see, the front stayed the same for 2 years after 1951.

Is it possile that this piece of shit is still on this forum? Is this Russian or neo-naci forum? Please mods?Is it possible that on Russian forum naci ideology is something that is tolerated? Wasnt Russia suffered most becouse this kind of people?
If i am one who is on the wrong forum then please ban me.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:

ultron wrote:ISIS is slaughtering tens of thousands of Christians in Sadad.  Russia MUST deploy ground forces to Syria to fight ISIS. SAA is simply incompetent or they don't give a damn about their own country.

If the reports are true and ISIS is indeed killing thousands of Christians, then harsh retaliation should come - carpet bomb Raqqa and Mosul to ashes with Tu-22M and Tu-160. Do not even care how many Sunnis die - they are all rats and deserve death.

I am not trolling. That's what I would order within like 5 seconds if I only could do that.

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Russia should deploy some special forces to recapture Mahin. Using thermal night vision. ISIS can't see at night.

Werewolf wrote:

I know right, but i am here the guy that constantly gets backslapped for being "racist, hatefilled, biased" I never advocated genocide nor anything in that regard, besides mass murder of slimy politicians which most people would probably aggree with.

He openly cry for genocide on millions of peoples on womens, on childrens just based on their religion, that is pure nacist ideology ON RUSSIAN forum...

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Gentle relocation to Saudi Arabia (or Turkey) would be enough.

Read definition of Genocide... And you did call for killing all of them.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Just retaliation for doign the same to Alawis, Christians etc.

You know very well that Sunni Arabs are the most disloyal demographic group in Syria. SAa officer corps has always been dominated by Alawis and Christians so Bashar and Hafez distrusted Sunnis all along. They had a good reason to.

Yeah, they are not loyal..... great so lets go kill all of them lets kill their childrens, womens, ... that is nazism.